The Baalbek Mystery & The Tribe Of Dan

[Horn]

Published on May 6, 2015
The mystery of Baalbek is magnified because it seems to be missing from the historical written record. I think we do have a written record that people have missed.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqdJ6o4i_Rc

http://www.varchive.org/ce/baalbek/baalbek.htm

[aeondaze]

Best thing I've seen you post in a long time.

I met a guy once who when I asked where his was from he said, and I quote "the tribe of Dan"

Never ever forgot that, at the time I knew next to nothing about the ancient world, but have come across the tribe of Dan in many stange references. There is definitely a mystery there, one that may well be deliberately obscured.

[Neuro]

Best thing I've seen you post in a long time.

I met a guy once who when I asked where his was from he said, and I quote "the tribe of Dan"

Never ever forgot that, at the time I knew next to nothing about the ancient world, but have come across the tribe of Dan in many stange references. There is definitely a mystery there, one that may well be deliberately obscured.
Was he Danish?

[singular_me]

Best thing I've seen you post in a long time.


how can you judge people when endorsing big pharma vaccines, and close your threads after 3 pages because you cannot stand opposition ???

[aeondaze]

how can you judge people when endorsing big pharma vaccines, and close your threads after 3 pages because you cannot stand opposition ???

And yet somehow you seem to have forgotten 1) You've closed more threads than I, and 2) that you yourself are judging me. That makes you a hypocrite.

:rolleyes:

[singular_me]

FALSE... you know that, most threads I have closed were duplicate... if I can stand a 100page thread, it is the evidence that I do NOT close my threads that fast. So when/if I did it maybe did I have a valid reason.

Show me where you have a 100p thread then we can talk even. Also consider the posting ratio, I post 5+ time more than you...



And yet somehow you seem to have forgotten 1) You've closed more threads than I, and 2) that you yourself are judging me. That makes you a hypocrite.

:rolleyes:

[aeondaze]

Your hate is blinding you. {**}

[singular_me]

http://www.varchive.org/ce/baalbek/baalbek.htm

just scanned through it... very convoluted but my first impression is that "they" are still at it today... just as the invasion of iraq and the quest for jerusalem is deeply connected to religion and mythology. Politics still is religion and otherwise.

[singular_me]

Your hate is blinding you. {**}

right, have a nice day

[mick silver]

also she know how to derail a thread better then anyone ...
And yet somehow you seem to have forgotten 1) You've closed more threads than I, and 2) that you yourself are judging me. That makes you a hypocrite.

:rolleyes:

[singular_me]

also she know how to derail a thread better then anyone ...

well, that is called derailing... for sure. most threads I derail are my own. I was just calling up aeon on his line congratulating Horn for posting one of best threads ever. LOL. This is ridiculous.

and yes a strong disagreement may cause derailment because of other elements entering the picture. I love the the empty/full glass theory, I cannot help myself.

back to the OP now.

[aeondaze]

most threads I derail...I cannot help myself

Says it all really

:(??

[singular_me]

Says it all really

:(??

this says it all... REarranging my words.

your line congratulating Horn for posting one of best threads ever. You asked for a comment unconsciously.

horn is one of the best posters on here because he posts on many subject matters. Offering a wide range of views.

back to OP

[aeondaze]

back to OP

OK, I'll ignore your verbal diarrhea for the time and get back to the OP.

As I said,I actually met someone who identified with the "Tribe of Dan".

You can choose to ignore my valid input and attempt to degenerate the thread by slandering me all you want, but you do so at your own intellectual disadvantage.

The point I was implicitly making is that there are people out there that firmly believe they are form the Tribe of Dan. He didn't say he was jewish or that he was Greek or Russian or even Australian, he deliberately made the point that he identified with this tribe.

How many people have you met who have said this? None I can tell you, why, because I've never ever read or talked to another person anywhere since that emphatically stated this as their roots. It was said in a very deliberate and serious tone, there was no joking about it. It is one of those little clues that drives me to this day, as I said there ARE people out there that identify with this tribe and we're talking about 3000 maybe 3500 years of history here. Not even the jews themselves say this about their identity.

I regret not knowing then what I know today and would've liked the opportunity to ask some simple questions, this guy was dead serious about his genealogy.

[singular_me]

thanks for sharing your story aeon...

[Horn]

Judea appears to want to omit or obscure most of Dan's records as a lesser part, or perhaps only a mixed alliance.

Western and Archaeologist accounts of the Hyksos are brief and in passing also as "multi-ethnic" (which would be a clear difference). Where amongst the Egyptian Dynasties does this more advanced tribe spring up out of seemingly nowhere to interlope into Egypt's dynasties, then virtually lose themselves into the flock of Israel?

The so called "sea peoples" recorded in and around that same area were eventually squeezed out by Greeks and Romans to the North, Were they possibly an overrun elite, turned or vanquished away from Egypt at an earlier period only to return later to have another attempt?

Their losses a reason to omit them from Biblical record by those who want to reclaim advanced elite status again?

[aeondaze]

Judea appears to want to omit or obscure most of Dan's records as a lesser part, or perhaps only a mixed alliance.

Western and Archaeologist accounts of the Hyksos are brief and in passing also as "multi-ethnic" (which would be a clear difference). Where amongst the Egyptian Dynasties does this more advanced tribe spring up out of seemingly nowhere to interlope into Egypt's dynasties, then virtually lose themselves into the flock of Israel?

The so called "sea peoples" recorded in and around that same area were eventually squeezed out by Greeks and Romans to the North, Were they possibly an overrun elite, turned or vanquished away from Egypt at an earlier period only to return later to have another attempt?

Their losses a reason to omit them from Biblical record by those who want to reclaim advanced elite status again?

OK, so 'apparently' Cannanaite populations appear in the Nile delta around 1800 BC then gain control of a portion of the lower Egyptian kingdom circa 1720. Then in about 1650 the Hyksos invaded BOTH. For a brief period they rules over both kingdoms until the Egyptians regained control of upper Egypt and both the Egyptians and Hyksos ruled concurrently in their respective kingdoms and in 1550 BC they were eventually expelled.

The sea peoples didn't begin making their violent presence felt until about 1200 BC, which is 300 years after the Hyksos expulsion, hiowever there appears to be recors of mercenaries that are later identified with this group from about 1350 BC.

As for the tribe of Dan "Their primary trade characteristic was seafaring, unusual for the Israelite tribes.[12] In the Song of Deborah the tribe is said to have stayed on their ships with their belongings" (from Wiki)

They identify with the snake Genesis 49:17, "Let Dan be a serpent by the roadside, a horned viper by the path, That bites the horse's heel, so that the rider tumbles backward."

Its complicated in that region at that time. You've got Cannanites, Phillistines (which we know were definitely sea peoples), Israelites not to mention all the small faction that make up these 'nations' From here the tribe of Dan just dissapear in the early to mid Iron age.

[Neuro]

How about the Troyans as the sea people? The Greeks conquered Troy around 1200 BC... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy

[aeondaze]

How about the Troyans as the sea people? The Greeks conquered Troy around 1200 BC... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy

Basically what we're talking about in this time period is the collapse of the Bronze Age around the Mediterranean and middle East. Its a pretty complicated story, beyond the climatic challenges you then have open conflict across a large area between a lot of groups, the Cannanites, Hittites, Egyptian and Assyrians all suffered from this episode, not to mention Cretan Minoan society and the Mycenae Greeks along with the Trojans (Willusia).

There has been some evidence that the Etruscan's are descendants of the Trojans, and while there may have made up a portion of the sea peoples other claims for their origin are Sardinia, Spain (from around the med) and even from the northern shore of the Black sea and also you have the Philistines, its a VERY murky and dark period of history which because of its extent, there was little recorded. Everything ceased to function, I tend think that the highly stratified Bronze age societies collapsed under their own weight with famine and crop failure the lower classes rebelled, eventually refusing to accept the old world order which may have been the stimulus for the sea peoples invasions.

Its ironic that at this most turbulent time in the exact same region we see the Israelite nations flourishing. Theres plenty more on this topic, as I said its extremely complicated and the written evidence is scant, the only thing that helps us is the archaeological record, which over time has given us some more clues, but the picture is no where near complete by any means.

[Horn]

The Tribe of Dan, multifaceted and widespread due to the sea aspect. Could easily get while the getting was good possibly?

Many are also equating the Hyksos exodus as the Israelite's these days. It appears as though there was an attempt to obscure in Biblical history for one reason or another. Its just hard to see how an invading occupying force who relied on advanced technology to conquer Egypt, not coming from some distant passage. The origins of the Hyksos are unclear or also obscure. you wouldn't think any hugely advanced 1650BC technology were anywhere near to indigenous to the nile delta or approximate.

[aeondaze]

The Tribe of Dan, multifaceted and widespread due to the sea aspect. Could easily get while the getting was good possibly?

Many are also equating the Hyksos exodus as the Israelite's these days. It appears as though there was an attempt to obscure in Biblical history for one reason or another. Its just hard to see how an invading occupying force who relied on advanced technology to conquer Egypt, not coming from some distant passage. The origins of the Hyksos are unclear or also obscure. you wouldn't think any hugely advanced 1650BC technology were anywhere near to indigenous to the nile delta or approximate.

The advanced technology the Hyksos brought was the horse and chariot and the composite bow. Militarily these were huge advancements at the time and when you think of them in tandem its the bronze age equivalent of blitzkrieg or "shock and awe". The Egyptians didn't stand a chance.

[singular_me]

Many are also equating the Hyksos exodus as the Israelite's these days. It appears as though there was an attempt to obscure in Biblical history for one reason or another. Its just hard to see how an invading occupying force who relied on advanced technology to conquer Egypt, not coming from some distant passage. The origins of the Hyksos are unclear or also obscure. you wouldn't think any hugely advanced 1650BC technology were anywhere near to indigenous to the nile delta or approximate.

Hyksos origins has to be doubted because it wouldnt fit biblical accounts, saying that hebrews were slaves... while they were in fact ruling egypt and borrowed all its knowledge. Hebrew esotericism is a copycat of the ancient egyptians'.

I also think that the term hebrew appears the first time after the were expelled. I read it somewhere when writing this screenplay about Hatsepsut, mother of Thutmose the 3rd, 10 years ago. At the end of her rule, hyksos made a last attempt to reconquer egypt. She too had chased them out.

[palani]

http://www.jewfaq.org/graphics/hebrew.gif

The Hebrew alphabet had no vowels. There was no House of Dan. More likely Dn or D'n if you choose. Anyplace they settled they included a d_n ... Dan's mark ... Mark of D'n. Denmark. London.

[Horn]

says there that vav was o or u, palani

the velikovsky link in the op linked it to dun, or high places hill.

I guess dunmark could be consider higher than sea level in some place, lol

[palani]

says there that vav was o or u

“For then will I return to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent (consonant). (Zephaniah 3:9).

[Horn]

Think he's referring to Espagnol there, it has more vowels than to shake a stick at.

to this day i can't get them to pronounce anything beginning with an S without saying ES first.

its like ES were branded into their tongues.