Check out this Russian missile that launches from underwater

[midnight rambler]

This missile get tossed over the side of a ship and then launches from underwater.

WOW.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogsX9sqaKU

[midnight rambler]

This means this missile can be launched from virtually ANYTHING that floats.

[7th trump]

Even if it is real I doubt it can be just "tossed" over board.
Looks fake coming out of the water.

Also when it hits the water a few seconds later theres no wake for a missile that big.

I'm calling propaganda bullshit...the Russians are experts at propaganda.

[midnight rambler]

And yet you gobble down Uncle Satan propaganda jis from Mystery Babylon's MIC like it's manna from Heaven. Oh the irony.

Which is by far the most proficient at propagating utter bullshit to make the masses swoon in ecstasy willing to gobble down huge turds, Moscow or NYC/DC aka Mystery Babylon? (rhetorical question of course lol)

[mick silver]

Putin’s Doomsday Machinehttps://media.zenfs.com/creatr-images/GLB/2015-10-16/4c886a60-7437-11e5-a6ee-b18ed0e7cc99_3be01ddad644b283f2c9ad01a5b38397.jpg (http://foreignpolicy.com/) By Jeffrey Lewis 17 hours ago





On Nov. 9, President Vladimir Putin attended a meeting in Sochi on the state of the Russian defense industry. He gave a pretty boring speech about defeating U.S. missile defenses to some pretty bored-looking generals.
But there was one aspect of the event that was downright terrifying. Russian television cameras caught a page in a briefing book describing the development of a new nuclear weapons system called Status-6 (http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/1200449/russian-underwater-drone-slide/).

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It’s nothing less than an underwater drone designed to carry a thermonuclear weapon into foreign ports. If detonated, Status-6 would be capable of dousing cities like New York in massive amounts of radioactive fallout.
At the risk of understating things, this project is bat-shit crazy. It harkens back to the most absurd moments of the Cold War, when nuclear strategists followed the logic of deterrence over the cliff and into the abyss. For his part, Putin seems positively nostalgic.
The Russian government reacted to the broadcast of the briefing-book images as if a major security breach had occurred. The offending footage was edited out of future broadcasts, and when asked about the incident, a Russian presidential spokesperson said (http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2015/11/11/616467-peskov-podtverdil): “Indeed, some secrets hit the camera lens, so were subsequently removed. We hope that in the future this will not happen again.”
The Russians doth protest too much. As Dr. Strangelove observed of the Soviet doomsday machine, “Of course, the whole point of a doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret!” (As an aside, it’s worth noting that Status-6 bears more than a passing resemblance to the weapon in that Stanley Kubrick classic; more on that in a bit.)
This isn’t the first we’re hearing of such a project. Details of a similar Russian nuclear underwater drone, armed with a megaton-class thermonuclear warhead, were reported (http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-building-nuclear-armed-drone-submarine/) this fall by Bill Gertz of the Washington Free Beacon. (Whatever you think of Gertz’s right-wing politics, he gets some decent scoops.) Gertz’s sources seemed to be describing the same system revealed this week, though they gave him a different name — Kanyon, rather than Status-6. (That shift in nomenclature shouldn’t come as a surprise: Russian military hardware acquires multiple names and numbers as it goes through research and development.)
The briefing-book slide fills in plenty of details about the project. A Russian attack submarine would be able to carry one or more of the drones, which could be remotely launched into the sea. The specs on the slide seem a little optimistic, but they suggest that once roaming wild, the underwater drone could travel a total distance of 10,000 kilometers, or 5,400 nautical miles. It would be designed in such a way that it could be navigated undetected into a U.S. port where it could then detonate its “combat payload” — a thermonuclear weapon. The system would never come up for air or encounter any pesky American missile defenses.
That’s bad enough, but the slide contains an additional gruesome detail: The purpose of the warhead would be to damage “the important components of the adversary’s economy in a coastal area and unacceptable damage to a country’s territory by creating areas of wide radioactive contamination that would be unsuitable for military, economic, or other activity for long periods of time.”
Yes, you’re reading that right. It’s not just a thermonuclear weapon. It’s a dirty thermonuclear weapon.
The slide doesn’t explain how the bomb would produce unusually large amounts of radioactive contamination, but it could make use of a concept in nuclear weapons design called “salting.” That involves placing metallic elements around a bomb to capture neutrons and breed radioactive isotopes that maximize the fallout hazard. If the radiation case for a thermonuclear weapon is made with, say, cobalt, the nuclear explosion will likely produce a significant amount of long-lived radioactivity.
This isn’t the sort of dirty bomb that terrorists might build to spread a small amount of radioactive material about and cause panic. We’re talking about a massive, megaton-sized thermonuclear weapon designed to produce significant, long-lasting radiation effects. The first edition of the classic book [I]The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, by Samuel Glasstone and Philip Dolan, had a whole section on radiological warfare, including detailed descriptions of nuclear explosions in shallow water. It turns out the fallout is awfully nasty if you build a bomb capable of sucking up ground material into the explosion. Nearby cities can expect a radioactive slurry to rain down from the skies. This section, by the way, was taken out of later editions as radiological warfare fell out of vogue.
It’s no coincidence that the apocalyptic “doomsday machine” from Dr. Strangelove comprises a series of very large salted nuclear weapons. Status-6 is obviously intended to produce a local, not global, environmental catastrophe — but that’s plenty terrifying. It would be hard to describe the horror that would result from setting off a thermonuclear weapon jacketed with something like cobalt in New York City’s East River.
What sort of sick bastards dream up this kind of weapon? Whether or not the Russians ever build it is almost beside the point. Simply announcing to the world that you find this to be a reasonable approach to deterrence should be enough to mark you out as a dangerous creep.
Of course, it is hard to know how seriously to take the briefing slide. Russian observers have expressed a healthy dose of skepticism. But I get the sense that no one in the Pentagon is laughing — and nor should they be. I’ve written (http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/01/05/led-zeppelin-comes-to-washington-russia-nukes-putin-arms-control/) before about the U.S. government’s deployment of JLENS blimps as a response to the threat posed by Russian cruise missiles lurking off the eastern seaboard. No doubt the Pentagon will be commissioning studies for underwater surveillance networks to deal with Russia’s Status-6 project.
But as we consider military responses, I think we also need to think about making better use of international norms against nuclear weapons. Earlier this year, when Putin mused about using nuclear weapons during his seizure of Crimea, U.S. officials pointed out that this wasn’t how a responsible nuclear power talks. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter recently argued, “Moscow’s nuclear saber-rattling raises questions about Russian leaders’ commitment to strategic stability, their respect for norms against the use of nuclear weapons, and whether they respect the profound caution nuclear-age leaders showed with regard to the brandishing of nuclear weapons.” If U.S. officials were intent on undermining trust in Russia on nuclear matters, they could hardly ask for better evidence than Moscow’s plan to build a nuclear weapon designed to maximize humanitarian and ecological catastrophe.
Unfortunately, U.S. officials have yet to press this case as strongly as they might — a reflection, I think, of Washington’s continuing hostility toward international efforts to focus on the humanitarian consequences of nuclear war. Most U.S. officials treat the so-called “humanitarian initiative” as, at best, a stalking horse for a hasty convention banning the possession of nuclear weapons and, at worst, a plot to undermine the credibility of U.S. security guarantees around the world. Washington finally sent a delegation to attend the most recent conference in Vienna, but their discomfort was obvious. They mostly seemed interested in twisting the arms of U.S. allies, like Japan, to get them to abstain from the U.N. General Assembly’s resolution (http://www.recna.nagasaki-u.ac.jp/recna/bd/files/fe8c3a93c882e7f79bbcd151d37ec55a.pdf) on the humanitarian consequences of nuclear weapons.
That is a strange, and misguided, diplomatic approach for a country with a president who has made it an explicit policy to seek a world without nuclear weapons. Even before the existence of Status-6 was known, it was in Washington’s interest to strengthen the norm against nuclear weapons use. It is nearly impossible to imagine a scenario in which the United States would find it in its interest to initiate the use of nuclear weapons. And I can’t imagine a U.S. president asking for the development of radiological weapons to target Russian civilians.
So why not simply say that? Why not admit that nuclear weapons are awful? And that it would be a humanitarian catastrophe if even a single bomb were ever dropped — or if a drone were developed that had no purpose other than to inflict ecological catastrophe? Salted bombs were once the stuff of dark comedies and nightmare fantasies; now, they are staring back at us from a briefing slide.
Refusing to admit the awfulness of nuclear weapons puts us in the awkward position of making common cause with Putin at a time when he is imploring his defense industry to find ways to drench Manhattan in radioactive slurry. I don’t feel like allying with the Russians against the rest of the world, and I certainly don’t want a salted bomb to poison Russian civilians in retaliation; I’m not quite sure why U.S. officials don’t feel the same way.
We need to think about how to deter Russia from ever using something like Status-6 and how to defend against it in the event Putin loses his marbles. But the first task is to make sure that Moscow pays a price for its renewed emphasis on nuclear weapons and nuclear threats. We need to point out how retrograde Putin’s thinking is, from his belief that he can build Russia’s security on the insecurity of its neighbors to his desperate effort to remain relevant by threatening global nuclear holocaust.
Maybe that means the State Department should develop presentations on the dangers of radiological warfare for the next conference on humanitarian consequences. Or perhaps President Barack Obama should schedule a visit to Hiroshima to draw a contrast between how he sees nuclear weapons and how Putin sees them. Whatever the approach, we need to make clear that the people seeking to eliminate nuclear weapons are our allies, not our enemies. The world’s anti-nuclear hippies, with their purple hair and piercings, are a heck of lot more sane than Putin, with his grotesque plastic surgery, coterie of doughy generals, and ghastly underwater bomb.
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[7th trump]

And yet you gobble down Uncle Satan propaganda jis from Mystery Babylon's MIC like it's manna from Heaven. Oh the irony.

Which is by far the most proficient at propagating utter bullshit to make the masses swoon in ecstasy willing to gobble down huge turds, Moscow or NYC/DC aka Mystery Babylon? (rhetorical question of course lol)

Naa.....your puss is hurting because it was me who called your soviet propaganda out as fake.
And no...what separates me from you is I don't believe just anything anybody has to say. Face it DC is infiltrated with your soviet crap...infected with soviet commy jewish lies.
America is laid to ruin because of communism....your favorite tribe....earths wicked ones.
The soviets get wiped out in the end...never to be seen or heard of again.
America has been a place for freedom until your ilk came in acting like Americans.

[ximmy]

It's interesting how the Russians display "white race" innovations.

The US used to display that, but we've become filled with the pollution of multiculturalism, red tape, middle management, etc.

very sad indeed.

[Jerrylynnb]

Putin is just making sure that, in the event that Russia winds up being defeated, whoever defeats them will suffer unacceptable consequences also. That is NOT insane, just being as effective a leader as he can be and trying to head off what must seem to the Russians to be a tyrannical US, hell bent on subjecting the world to its own version of inhumanity. Jeffrey Lewis (above) has his head stuck up his ass.

If you think about it, this stealthy torpedo drone is a fantastic idea - cheap, but very expensive to defend against, and practically undetectable without breaking the bank by flooding the coastline with underwater detectors.

Think about the headaches, and cost, of maintaining all those sonic ears - think about the arguing as to which part of the coast gets them first. Think about the even cheaper "fake" drones that could be periodically, but unpredictably, sent forth to trigger these underwater ears in false alarms. I can just see those Russian technicians cackling as they send forth another fleet of blank drones sneaking theirs way into Hudson bay - it would be hilarious to watch the Navy scurrying to meet the "threat".

This is not only NOT insane on Putin's part, but genius. For every dime he spends on another torpedo drone (along with a hundred blank decoys), the US has to spend thousands dollars to defend against it.

And, of course, if it is all make-believe (as 7th trump suggests), it is even more genius on Putin's part since it isn't costing Russia one thin dime, but the US has to assume it might be real and spend the money defending against it anyway.

We need our own version of an american Putin over here.

[Jewboo]

If you think about it, this stealthy torpedo drone is a fantastic idea - cheap, but very expensive to defend against, and practically undetectable without breaking the bank by flooding the coastline with underwater detectors.

Think about the headaches, and cost, of maintaining all those sonic ears - think about the arguing as to which part of the coast gets them first. Think about the even cheaper "fake" drones that could be periodically, but unpredictably, sent forth to trigger these underwater ears in false alarms. I can just see those Russian technicians cackling as they send forth another fleet of blank drones sneaking theirs way into Hudson bay - it would be hilarious to watch the Navy scurrying to meet the "threat".

This is not only NOT insane on Putin's part, but genius. For every dime he spends on another torpedo drone (along with a hundred blank decoys), the US has to spend thousands dollars to defend against it.



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American Taxpayers insanely keep paying the Military Industrial Complex corporations gazillions for so-called "Patriot Anti-Missile" defense systems bankrupting the USA. Putin can't afford to spend like this so he just doubled down on the Mutually Assured Destruction game and is increasing offensive capabilities of Russia.

Putin finally realized that Zio-USA is literally insane and wants world war three no matter how much he compromises. It's on!

That Russian long distance stand-off nuke torpedo can destroy NYC and other coastal cities on the cheap and there is no defense.