U.S. Senate debates gun control after California shooting, but no action taken

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One day after a mass shooting in California that killed 14 people and wounded 21, Republicans and Democrats in the U.S. Senate jousted on Thursday over gun control but again failed to advance legislation addressing the violence.
Democrats tried to expand background checks to those purchasing weapons at gun shows and through intrastate Internet transactions. They also proposed closing a loophole allowing people on "terror watch lists" to buy guns and explosives.
Both efforts failed in the face of heavy Republican opposition.
Republicans said the government could mistakenly place innocent people on watch lists, denying them their constitutional rights to purchase guns. The influential National Rifle Association has also advanced that argument.
Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn failed to win an alternative putting gun sales on hold for 72 hours for people on watch lists. Critics have said such background checks could take longer to complete.
The FBI is trying to determine whether a couple suspected of the shootings at a workplace in Southern California on Wednesday had links to Islamic militant groups.
In a news conference before the votes, Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal said: "Congress is complicit in these mass murders when it fails to act."
Blumenthal's home state of Connecticut was the scene of a mass shooting three years ago when a 20-year-old gunman entered an elementary school and killed 20 children and six employees.
After that tragedy, gun control legislation appeared to gain traction, only to fail in 2013 following an emotional Senate debate.
With the latest mass shootings in Paris, as well as in Colorado and California fresh in the public's mind, Democrats argued sentiment was again turning in their favor on gun control.
"I think we are ... reaching a tipping point," New York Senator Charles Schumer said, adding that mass shootings "week after week" were "arousing the American conscience."
But given Thursday's Senate votes and recent public opinion polls, it is not apparent the United States has reached a "tipping point" in favor of stricter gun laws.
A Washington Post/ABC News poll last month found 82 percent thought gun violence was a very serious or somewhat serious problem. But opinion split almost evenly over whether enacting new laws to reduce gun violence or protecting the right to own guns was more important.
The poll also found that 63 percent blamed mass shootings on mental health problems, while 23 percent cited inadequate gun control.
(Reporting by Richard Cowan; Editing by Peter Cooney)


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[mick silver]

These clowns know that its a joke to even say the words gun control. Its never going to happen. Sure these pin heads may get together and pass some lame laws that mean nothing. They are never going to stop people from getting guns in this country no madder what they say they are going to do. Now i,m sure that there will be fools on here, that will say we will come take your guns away if we have to. Sorry that,s not going to happen either without a all out civil war in this country. You see the pin heads running this country have already proven they can not be trusted with anything. Anyway people don,t worry you will still have your guns all the way to the end of this country. And also don,t worry about the new world order. Babylon the great won,t be part of it. it will be gone before the new world order takes over. Babylons time left is really short

[mick silver]

comments are a getting better on yahoo look like people are tired of this shit from the great ones .... I think the senate is doing the right thing in looking at gun violence again. I think their next move should be to send every American that wants one a brand new 45cal semiautomatic hand gun

[mick silver]

Obama is on a ‘gun confiscation mission’

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From AWR Hawkins at Breitbart News (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/31/exclusive-sheriff-david-clarke-obama-gun-confiscation-mission/):
Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, in an exclusive conversation with Breitbart News, weighs in on the gun-control push by the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) in Chicago and President Barack Obama’s recent references to Australian-style gun confiscation as a way forward for America.
We first asked Sheriff Clarke about IACP’s new focus, whereby it turned from pushing longer prison sentences for criminals to pushing gun control exclusively (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/26/police-chief-association-drops-push-longer-prison-sentences-keeps-gun-control-agenda/), particularly universal background checks. The organization partnered with the National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence (NLEPPGV) in this endeavor.
Sheriff Clarke says:
I was extremely disappointed when I heard that my fellow law enforcement executive colleagues had gotten into bed with Obama and his gun confiscation mission. That’s really what it’s about. It’s not about reducing violence, it’s not about reducing mass murder or suicides. The real intent of Obama and these gun groups is gun confiscation and they know they are going to have to do it step by step. They’re not going to be able to go after that today, as there would be fierce blowback. So they are doing it in stealth ways and this IACP meeting is one of those ways.
Clarke indicated the NLEPPGV has embedded itself with the IACP, and that doing so is a “slick” way of not simply getting its message out, but of making it look like law enforcement really does support more gun control. Clarke pointed out that funding for groups like NLEPPGV comes from the Ford Foundation, which he described as part of an “anti-Second Amendment crusade.”
He then said, “It is important to understand that the the chiefs who met in Chicago speak for themselves, they do not speak for the law enforcement profession.” Yet he lamented that the chiefs had aligned themselves with the NLEPPGV.
Clarke said:
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We, in law enforcement, have an obligation to be on the side of crime victims. Not on the side of the criminal element. Gun control has nothing to do with the crime and violence that these chiefs see in their cities on a daily basis and they know it. But many of them, especially in your large urban centers, are under the thumb of anti-gun, soft on crime, mayors. And they have to sing from the same sheet of music that their mayors are singing from.
But the crime and violence we see in our cities and counties is not the result of a lack of background checks, and these chiefs know that. The research and data are there. Criminals don’t care about laws in general and they don’t care about gun laws or gun restrictions. They will find a way to get around those. And that’s why I ultimately say that the chiefs’ push for more gun control has nothing to do with reducing violence. Rather, it has to do with gun confiscation.
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[gunDriller]

comments are a getting better on yahoo look like people are tired of this shit from the great ones .... I think the senate is doing the right thing in looking at gun violence again. I think their next move should be to send every American that wants one a brand new 45cal semiautomatic hand gun

How about a "Cash for Clunkers" deal ?

Turn in your old pressure cooker, get a new Bushmaster 45 with a 20 inch barrel ?

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[Twisted Titan]

It dosent make a difference

The American citizen is the most heavily person on planet earth FACT
everytime the talk about legislation Americans rush out and buy more. FACT
If just 2-3% are hardcore freedom figthers that is bigger then any standing army in the world.
We have more guns then people FACT

Americans are starting to wake up to this fact.
White Americans are starting to understand their is a Genocide taking place against them by all races in particular Zionist Khazars

[collector]

I really hope you're right, TT

[Shami-Amourae]

Every White gun owner is a future White Nationalist, (if they aren't already.)

You'll eventually be forced to decide to fight for your right to exist, or turn in your guns, get lined up, and shot in the back of the head by the Jew and his lackeys.

The Jew wants you dead goy, what are you going to do about it?

[Twisted Titan]

The time for sitting on the fence is over.....

Get Real or
Get Dead