Finland Plans to Give Every Citizen 800 Euros a Month

[singular_me]

First step toward fixed income politics

now think further, just as student loans are at the core of skyrocketing college costs, we may expect much of the same in finland. On one hand, the gov so to speak helps people compete/survive, but on the other, competition to get the last piece of the pie will get the final word.

The NWO uses instincts (reptilian brain patterns) against us.
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Finland Plans to Give Every Citizen 800 Euros a Month and Scrap All Benefits
7th December 2015
Finland's government is drawing up plans to give every one of its citizens a basic income of 800 euros (£576) a month and scrap benefits altogether.

A poll commissioned by the agency planning the proposal, the Finnish Social Insurance Institute, showed 69% supported the basic income plan.

Prime Minister Juha Sipila was quote by QZ as backing the idea.

“For me, a basic income means simplifying the social security system,” he said.

The proposal would entitle each Finn to 800 euros tax free each month, which according to Bloomberg, would cost the government 52.2 billion euros a year.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/finland-plans-to-give-every-citizen-800-euros-a-month-and-scrap-benefits-a6762226.html

[palani]

This has disaster written all over it.

In any society free money (or surplus money) means higher prices (aka inflation).

That means bullets are more expensive.

[Shami-Amourae]

It may be a good idea.

It's going to have to happen no matter what if technology continues anyways. People are being automated out of the workplace.


I hope it's successful.

[Jewboo]

This has disaster written all over it.

In any society free money (or surplus money) means higher prices (aka inflation).

That means bullets are more expensive.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/3C5D/production/_85435451_d8b7a5f1-1e83-4a3d-869c-ddde600e07c6.jpg
Mo Free Shit........I gots to send fo my family!

[Hitch]

I'm thinking Finland might be my next travel destination. Marry some beautiful blonde gal, become a citizen, then get 800 euros a month! What more does a simple guy need?

[monty]

There was an older thread on this subject but I can't seem to locate it

[singular_me]

forget about that in a system that is inflationary and when corporations are the black holes of the world


It may be a good idea.

It's going to have to happen no matter what if technology continues anyways. People are being automated out of the workplace.


I hope it's successful.

[monty]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85842-Finland-May-Be-Starting-Minimum-Income&p=798312&viewfull=1#post798312

[singular_me]

hopefully madfranks will merge the threads

[vacuum]

One thing that needs to be mentioned - they are eliminating all other types of entitlements. Social security, welfare, disability, etc. Now it's all just a single flat rate. I think the only exception is if you have kids.

Another thing is that they can now also eliminate the minimum wage. So small businesses can hire somebody for $1 per hour if they are willing to work. Seems like a big win for them.

I think this is potentially a very good thing.

It simplifies entitlements and doesn't artificially fund any segment of society over any other.

It doesn't discourage people from working for fear of losing their entitlements.

It removes a leverage point for politicians obtaining special entitlements for special groups.

It provides guaranteed cash into the economy, just like an economic stimulus like QE, but from the bottom up rather than the top down.

It allows creative or altruistic people to spend their life doing art or science if they choose to live frugally.

It provides a safety net for young people to take larger financial risks such as trying to start a business without fear of being homeless if it fails.

It cuts bureaucracy - way less social workers are needed, less lawyers arguing disability cases, many government jobs can be cut.

It makes immigration discussions much more grounded. Every person that enters the country has an exact dollar cost to the country. 100,000 people = $90,000,000 per month.

[Jewboo]

One thing that needs to be mentioned - they are eliminating all other types of entitlements. Social security, welfare, disability, etc. Now it's all just a single flat rate. I think the only exception is if you have kids.



I wonder how those who worked and paid into their Social Security Retirement fund for forty years feel about freeloaders who never worked one day receiving the same?

???

[Jerrylynnb]

Ok, geniuses, we've been over this one since I was a pre-teen. If EVERYBODY gets a stipend for *DOING NOTHING*, then, nobody will do ANYTHING!!!!!!

Now, gents, it doesn't take a genius to work that through, even for thick-headed libs like some seem here with these notions that this is some kind of a 'good thing'.

You can also figure that, with nobody willing to actually produce anything that is considered worthy of consumption, that EVERYTHING of value will have to be imported, from someplace else that hasn't succumbed yet to this gleeful insanity.

And you'll get, rather quickly, inflation!

Pretty soon, that stipend you get will be worth a light (to be burned for your light, that is). Then, they'll have to up the universal stipend, and, what'aya'know? Runaway Inflation. Surely, we smartasses here can see this all the way to the end, huh?

[vacuum]

Ok, geniuses, we've been over this one since I was a pre-teen. If EVERYBODY gets a stipend for *DOING NOTHING*, then, nobody will do ANYTHING!!!!!!


As long as men want women, and as long as women want more stuff than their friends have, people will choose to maximize their income.

But if this was a pre-teen discussion I can see your conclusion being right, lol.

[Shami-Amourae]

One thing that needs to be mentioned - they are eliminating all other types of entitlements. Social security, welfare, disability, etc. Now it's all just a single flat rate. I think the only exception is if you have kids.

Another thing is that they can now also eliminate the minimum wage. So small businesses can hire somebody for $1 per hour if they are willing to work. Seems like a big win for them.

I think this is potentially a very good thing.

It simplifies entitlements and doesn't artificially fund any segment of society over any other.

It doesn't discourage people from working for fear of losing their entitlements.

It removes a leverage point for politicians obtaining special entitlements for special groups.

It provides guaranteed cash into the economy, just like an economic stimulus like QE, but from the bottom up rather than the top down.

It allows creative or altruistic people to spend their life doing art or science if they choose to live frugally.

It provides a safety net for young people to take larger financial risks such as trying to start a business without fear of being homeless if it fails.

It cuts bureaucracy - way less social workers are needed, less lawyers arguing disability cases, many government jobs can be cut.

It makes immigration discussions much more grounded. Every person that enters the country has an exact dollar cost to the country. 100,000 people = $90,000,000 per month.

If you have less bureaucracy, you can find people taking advantage of the entitlement systems, like illegals (Beaners) and RapeUGees, and block them out.

The money would only go to actual citizens, and no one but them.

It would make it unappealing to walk across the border, and have your hand held out demanding GibsMeDat. GibsMeDat is for citizens only. There aren't any programs for you Carlos.

[Shami-Amourae]

I wonder how those who worked and paid into their Social Security Retirement fund for forty years feel about freeloaders who never worked one day receiving the same?

???


Probably get a lump sum up front, or get a higher rate.

If I were dictator I'd just pay out a large lump sum to old folk. Most people are dumb and can be bought off like that.

[Shami-Amourae]

Ok, geniuses, we've been over this one since I was a pre-teen. If EVERYBODY gets a stipend for *DOING NOTHING*, then, nobody will do ANYTHING!!!!!!

Now, gents, it doesn't take a genius to work that through, even for thick-headed libs like some seem here with these notions that this is some kind of a 'good thing'.

You can also figure that, with nobody willing to actually produce anything that is considered worthy of consumption, that EVERYTHING of value will have to be imported, from someplace else that hasn't succumbed yet to this gleeful insanity.

And you'll get, rather quickly, inflation!

Pretty soon, that stipend you get will be worth a light (to be burned for your light, that is). Then, they'll have to up the universal stipend, and, what'aya'know? Runaway Inflation. Surely, we smartasses here can see this all the way to the end, huh?

There aren't any really good solutions to the current problems we face.

The fact is jobs are becoming non-existent to most of the population.

I'd say about 50% of the people working today really shouldn't be working. From your TSA agent, to your cashier at McDonalds, all of these jobs can be automated, or done away with. Most government jobs are a form of busy work/welfare. It's meant to build of the government bureaucracy since if more people are working for the government, then the government as a whole is strong since thats' less people wanting to challenge it since they are dependent on it.

Most of the technological advances that will automate jobs out of existence are happening right now and will go up exponentially. In 10-20 years if I'm not mistaken it's estimated half jobs now will go poof and not be replaced. That's why you have so many older people working in fast food demanding "living wages". Older people are in jobs that used to be for teenagers since they can't find work elsewhere. This oversupply of workers has kept wages very low.

Jobs and Automation Documentaries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SuGRgdJA_c


By the way, I don't think these minimum income schemes could work in a "multicultural" country. Only so many working White and East Asian people can support the rest of the population. If the country is full of muds, it will be much more difficult for it to work. This is why Nationalism is the only thing that makes this work.

[singular_me]

yes these are possible reasonable scenarios but it takes time to adjust, people have been too much used to the nanny state and most will use the 800 euros for other things, mostly superfluous, causing inflation. I also think that if one has to see the dentist for a cavity for example, it will cost more, HMOs will raise their insurance coverages. I doubt a disabled elderly living alone can make ends meet with 800 euros. My son said that the EU has become so expensive that 2000/month is considered an absolute minimum if one lives alone.

I also read that alcohol has become the leading cause of death in Finland for men, and is a close second for women, something to chew on. though alcohol sale volume went down as the gov raised the tax on alcohol, now at 40%. ... will the alcoholism rate spike further? May be a solution to get rid of them too.

(seems doing better than any EU country)
This figure assumes that the debt reached 62.40% of GDP in Finland, while the prior quarter, first quarter of 2015, it was at 60.30%.
http://countryeconomy.com/national-debt/finland



One thing that needs to be mentioned - they are eliminating all other types of entitlements. Social security, welfare, disability, etc. Now it's all just a single flat rate. I think the only exception is if you have kids.

Another thing is that they can now also eliminate the minimum wage. So small businesses can hire somebody for $1 per hour if they are willing to work. Seems like a big win for them.

I think this is potentially a very good thing.

It simplifies entitlements and doesn't artificially fund any segment of society over any other.

It doesn't discourage people from working for fear of losing their entitlements.

It removes a leverage point for politicians obtaining special entitlements for special groups.

It provides guaranteed cash into the economy, just like an economic stimulus like QE, but from the bottom up rather than the top down.

It allows creative or altruistic people to spend their life doing art or science if they choose to live frugally.

It provides a safety net for young people to take larger financial risks such as trying to start a business without fear of being homeless if it fails.

It cuts bureaucracy - way less social workers are needed, less lawyers arguing disability cases, many government jobs can be cut.

It makes immigration discussions much more grounded. Every person that enters the country has an exact dollar cost to the country. 100,000 people = $90,000,000 per month.

[palani]

Merchants constantly do sensitivity studies on their markets. Where any form of money is freely available a merchant will raise or lower his price based upon how quickly his wares sell. His goal is to maximize his return. If his junk doesn't sell he has to lower his price but if his junk sells too quickly he will raise his prices on the next lot.

[Jewboo]

... In 10-20 years if I'm not mistaken it's estimated half jobs now will go poof and not be replaced. That's why you have so many older people working in fast food demanding "living wages". Older people are in jobs that used to be for teenagers since they can't find work elsewhere. This oversupply of workers has kept wages very low. ...



https://timebusinessblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bf0910-001-e13321893703561.jpg?w=480&h=320&crop=1 http://www.trbimg.com/img-51fb0606/turbine/la-1488853-me-0801-living-with-parents-2-gem-jpg-20130801/600/600x400

To be fair, factor in that half of you Twenty Somethings and many of the Thirty Somethings are still living with their parents.

Over at your FullChan many admit being "NEETS".

http://img12.nnm.me/d/7/a/0/0/17c6ac9fa87ff6907ad01521852.gif me and Shami have generational debates all the time...lol

[Horn]

I'm thinking Finland might be my next travel destination. Marry some beautiful blonde gal, become a citizen, then get 800 euros a month! What more does a simple guy need?

No doubt your heating bill in the winter will be a 1000 Euros per month, then they'll outlaw axes.

[Hitch]

No doubt your heating bill in the winter will be a 1000 Euros per month, then they'll outlaw axes.

Love is a powerful heater, Horn, and can keep a man warm. That, and a sauna too.

7944

[Neuro]

Ok, geniuses, we've been over this one since I was a pre-teen. If EVERYBODY gets a stipend for *DOING NOTHING*, then, nobody will do ANYTHING!!!!!!

Now, gents, it doesn't take a genius to work that through, even for thick-headed libs like some seem here with these notions that this is some kind of a 'good thing'.

You can also figure that, with nobody willing to actually produce anything that is considered worthy of consumption, that EVERYTHING of value will have to be imported, from someplace else that hasn't succumbed yet to this gleeful insanity.

And you'll get, rather quickly, inflation!

Pretty soon, that stipend you get will be worth a light (to be burned for your light, that is). Then, they'll have to up the universal stipend, and, what'aya'know? Runaway Inflation. Surely, we smartasses here can see this all the way to the end, huh?
I don't think most people would settle on doing nothing, as mentioned most people would have the ambition to have more than the minimum, so that is a driving force to do more. Many may find that instead of going to an entirely pointless deadend job they have the freedom to pursue their dreams, whatever they may be, and can do so with the knowledge they can fall back on the guaranteed income. Others may decide they want to spend more time bringing up their children instead of leaving them to government sponsored day care (and government shouldn't have to sponsor it any more). Others may just choose to go fishing/hunting/foraging or start growing organic vegetables.

Increased automation makes less and less productive jobs available to the masses. Sure governments can create lots of fake jobs and increase taxation from the industries to pay for it. Or a war with its subsequent reconstruction will keep millions occupied for years. Both these options actually reduce the overall wellbeing of the population at large. If you have robots producing most things of necessity why shouldn't you just enjoy the spare time this gives you? Or do what the hell you like doing?

[palani]

Isn't this concept the source of Obama's statement that 'YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT'?

You should be aware in a society where the government provides everything there is no private property.

[Horn]

Love is a powerful heater, Horn, and can keep a man warm. That, and a sauna too.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7944&stc=1

Go ahead for that renewable energy and you'll end up paying 2000 Euros per month.

[singular_me]

gov is the problem but all of a sudden becomes the solution

... statism and dualism at their finest

war as a solution to provide jobs, because society considers a false premise to start with. No wonder history repeats itself. NWO is here to stay, folks.


I don't think most people would settle on doing nothing, as mentioned most people would have the ambition to have more than the minimum, so that is a driving force to do more. Many may find that instead of going to an entirely pointless deadend job they have the freedom to pursue their dreams, whatever they may be, and can do so with the knowledge they can fall back on the guaranteed income. Others may decide they want to spend more time bringing up their children instead of leaving them to government sponsored day care (and government shouldn't have to sponsor it any more). Others may just choose to go fishing/hunting/foraging or start growing organic vegetables.

Increased automation makes less and less productive jobs available to the masses. Sure governments can create lots of fake jobs and increase taxation from the industries to pay for it. Or a war with its subsequent reconstruction will keep millions occupied for years. Both these options actually reduce the overall wellbeing of the population at large. If you have robots producing most things of necessity why shouldn't you just enjoy the spare time this gives you? Or do what the hell you like doing?

[palani]

gov is the problem but all of a sudden becomes the solution
Government just tries to separate the Morlachs from the Eloi. $800 a month creates a LOT of Eloi.

[Horn]

Isn't this concept the source of Obama's statement that 'YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT'?

You should be aware in a society where the government provides everything there is no private property.

Neuro is Obama for all intense purposes, working for the common good.

The idea is that by giving everyone 800 a month it will eliminate those who were receiving 800 a month prior,

as now they will get the equivalent to 0.

[Neuro]

gov is the problem but all of a sudden becomes the solution

wow... statism at its finest
LMAO, here is a suggestion on the table that would reduce competition (for survival at least) to a minimum, and you are vehemently opposed to it... Not surprising though as your presence here seems more to create tension and distraction, arguing for the sake of arguing.

What is your solution then for the masses unemployed from automation? House sitting for the rich? Shilling Internet forums for the Zionist bankers?

[singular_me]

right, then I am the one who is insane


Government just tries to separate the Morlachs from the Eloi. $800 a month creates a LOT of Eloi.

[singular_me]

you mentioned that war could be the fix.. enough said.

and you offer no real cure to the problem.

Go to the end of capitalism thread, automaton will lead the world to a zero sum game economics if people are smart enough to get it. Or the NWO will eliminate 1/2 half of world population.

thats the only choice out there. Accepting that thinking in term of profits is on its death bed, or getting terminated.

I do NOT house sit for the rich but off the grid people and often deal with a rustic environment.




LMAO, here is a suggestion on the table that would reduce competition (for survival at least) to a minimum, and you are vehemently opposed to it... Not surprising though as your presence here seems more to create tension and distraction, arguing for the sake of arguing.

What is your solution then for the masses unemployed from automation? House sitting for the rich? Shilling Internet forums for the Zionist bankers?

[Shami-Amourae]

gov is the problem but all of a sudden becomes the solution

I used to think government was the problem, but then I found out Jews ran the government.


Now I know the problem.

[Neuro]

you mentioned that war could be the fix.. enough said.

and you offer no real cure to the problem.

LOL, your biggest problem is you are fucking stupid. War is the current solution to economic collapse from automation, the finish solution is obviously not that!

[singular_me]

LOL, your biggest problem is you are fucking stupid. War is the current solution to economic collapse from automation, the finish solution is obviously not that!

you only can insult... think... think... thinking in term of profits/competition IS on its death bed. The trend started with industrialization, then it got worse... because people cannot let go the idea of profiting from one another.

are you going to blame the NWO because you can't make sense of a trend?

[Horn]

I used to think government was the problem, but then I found out Jews ran the government.


Now I know the problem.

Jews will always run the government, even if they aren't Khazarian.

You don't know how to Tango.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C31lO7_Naw

[singular_me]

jews or not robotics would have been invented... objectively speaking. The end of capitalism is upon us and many didnt see it come. I realized that more than 7 years ago, the reason of my road trip and adopted a mentality only dealing the short term as the economy could collapse at any time.

lets get real


I used to think government was the problem, but then I found out Jews ran the government.


Now I know the problem.

[Hitch]

Go ahead for that renewable energy and you'll end up paying 2000 Euros per month.

You are forgetting the ladies, Horn. They each get 800 euro as well, times 3 of us, that's 2400 Euros. Minus the 2000 for the sauna, and that is 400 for clean towels, drinks. All told, sounds pretty good! Thanks .gov, count me in.

[Horn]

You are forgetting the ladies, Horn. They each get 800 euro as well, times 3 of us, that's 2400 Euros. Minus the 2000 for the sauna, and that is 400 for clean towels, drinks. All told, sounds pretty good! Thanks .gov, count me in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh6f5Go0

[Shami-Amourae]

The current model will create resource wars that will reduce or wipe out the population. If civilization decreases it will create more jobs since the technology will be crappier so automation won't be as a realistic option.

[singular_me]

The current model will create resource wars that will reduce or wipe out the population. If civilization decreases it will create more jobs since the technology will be crappier so automation won't be as a realistic option.

speculating on death makes it right?

peaceful solution or not, it is the end of society as we know it.

[Shami-Amourae]

peaceful solution or not, it is the end of society as we know it.

The current paradigm is going to end no matter what anyways.

[Horn]

The current paradigm is going to end no matter what anyways.

It has got to make it to at least the 5:53 mark of the attached video!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq3ufNjKqnE

[Neuro]

you only can insult... think... think... thinking in term of profits/competition IS on its death bed. The trend started with industrialization, then it got worse... because people cannot let go the idea of profiting from one another.

are you going to blame the NWO because you can't make sense of a trend?
No the response to you was adequate, as you obvious to anyone, who could read, assumed I said the exact opposite of what I said. Only someone who is stupid would do something like that. And yes I blame the JWO for the wars we had in the last 100 years. They keep the profits for themselves and let the goyims go and kill each other when their system collapse, and then it is our responsibility to pay for the war and the reconstruction which they earn handsome Shekels on with interest in money they create out of thin air.

The proposed Finnish system is to take some of the profits that automation creates, give a basic income to everyone for that, instead of employing people in administrating a non-productive welfare system, or counterproductive war-reconstruction process. So that people don't have to compete to survive.

I am sure a great number of people would still make stupid decisions that will take them out of the gene-pool (good!), but not forcing people to go to a non-productive or counterproductive job or just to convince a social secretary (non-productive job) of your right to exist in Finnland, would actually free up a vast amount of creative potential. That could be the used to create art, inventions, entrepreneurship, all of which still has to keep competing for the attention of its proposed customers.

[Horn]

Your right to exist in Finnland, would actually free up a vast amount of creative potential. That could be the used to create art, inventions, entrepreneurship, all of which still has to keep competing for the attention of its proposed customers.

Neuro Pelosi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmL37TcBtpY

[Shami-Amourae]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpgkX588nM

[Jewboo]

Government just tries to separate the Morlachs from the Eloi. $800 a month creates a LOT of Eloi.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a8/61/46/a86146f1d3440070a4c90309ac07d59b.jpg
ELOI




Weird. Couple of minutes before I read Palani's post I was actually thinking about the ELOI and was going to mention them!

:D Palani nailed it

[Jewboo]

I used to think government was the problem, but then I found out Jews ran the government.

Now I know the problem.



http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/12/17/marijuana-party_wide-d86e2e88f6fe5c4cb1baf108b1266b5c63b75ab8.jpg
THANK YOU JEWS


How the jews will destroy Finland:

Free $800

Legalize Drugs

Eventually they go bankrupt because that "free" $800 is just DEBT printed out of thin air.

:rolleyes:

[Neuro]

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/12/17/marijuana-party_wide-d86e2e88f6fe5c4cb1baf108b1266b5c63b75ab8.jpg
THANK YOU JEWS


How the jews will destroy Finland:

Free $800

Legalize Drugs

Eventually they go bankrupt because that "free" $800 is just DEBT printed out of thin air.

:rolleyes:
According to the Finnish president Apple already destroyed Finland. The iPhone destroyed Nokia and the iPad destroyed the paper industry... And the air in Finland isn't that thin any longer... ;D

[Shami-Amourae]

THANK YOU JEWS

How the jews will destroy Finland:

Free $800

Legalize Drugs

Eventually they go bankrupt because that "free" $800 is just DEBT printed out of thin air.

:rolleyes:


What's the solution to automation, Jewboo?


You do realize technological unemployment is a very serious issue that is growing exponentially every year.

The only answers I've heard are:


Kill off a huge percentage of population



Limit/revert civilization



Minimum Income

[Neuro]

What's the solution to automation, Jewboo?


You do realize technological unemployment is a very serious issue that is growing exponentially every year.

The only answers I've heard are:


Kill off a huge percentage of population



Limit/revert civilization



Minimum Income


I do think that more people than the ones owning and operating/maintaining the robots have a right to life! And if there are no consumers of the products the robots churn out, not even the owners would survive!

[Jewboo]

What's the solution to automation, Jewboo?


You do realize technological unemployment is a very serious issue that is growing exponentially every year.

The only answers I've heard are:


Kill off a huge percentage of population



Limit/revert civilization



Minimum Income



http://d2lupdnmi5p5au.cloudfront.net/i__src342f40c5dd39325e8b9dd91700c870a5_par9f53d3aa d9ae2b3b38760da767031b73.jpeg

Nuke 90% of 'em from orbit. Start with Tel Aviv, NYC, and Hollywood.

:rolleyes:

[Horn]

What's the solution to automation,

1st world nations are currently facing a natural slumping demographic. All you're seeing is propaganda placed out there by fiat bound governments that need to match certain inflationary 3.5-5% targets year on end. Its quite simple print more empower central banker and technocrats rule more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZCGEjSBqA&list=PLAb2lmNIYk_4Th0u7UtSg75g 29gqzi4K1&index=4

[Neuro]

http://d2lupdnmi5p5au.cloudfront.net/i__src342f40c5dd39325e8b9dd91700c870a5_par9f53d3aa d9ae2b3b38760da767031b73.jpeg

Nuke 90% of 'em from orbit. Start with Tel Aviv, NYC, and Hollywood.

:rolleyes:

Fake pic the horizon is curved!

[Shami-Amourae]

http://d2lupdnmi5p5au.cloudfront.net/i__src342f40c5dd39325e8b9dd91700c870a5_par9f53d3aa d9ae2b3b38760da767031b73.jpeg

Nuke 90% of 'em from orbit. Start with Tel Aviv, NYC, and Hollywood.

:rolleyes:


Killing 90% of the population would solve the problem.

The problem is Whites would probably die off and Shitskins would prevail since they can live in 3rd world conditions without running water, electricity, and so on.

[Neuro]

Killing 90% of the population would solve the problem.
Still, you'll end up with too few consumers to keep the production profitable. Better kill everyone!

[Jewboo]

Killing 90% of the population would solve the problem.



Exactly. There. We said it.

Start with the biggest parasites (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LrQZdWbYres/SbGKBQSk9SI/AAAAAAAAAAM/AB9ZQdPYFEE/S1600-R/Kike+Face+Collage.JPG) on planet Earth. Then the Dindus (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/27/article-2546689-1AFF44C600000578-103_634x422.jpg). Then the biggest Shitholes (http://www.infostormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/india-open-defacation.jpg). Work our way up the food chain.


https://img.grouponcdn.com/deal/9VGteoRC7SPdZcJZ7JMk/Tu-2048x1229/v1/c700x420.jpg
Thanks Jewboo!

[Shami-Amourae]

Still, you'll end up with too few consumers to keep the production profitable. Better kill everyone!

The Middle Class was created after the Great Plague.

Huge die offs radically increase living standards.

[monty]

Killing 90% of the population would solve the problem.

The problem is Whites would probably die off and Shitskins would prevail since they can live in 3rd world conditions without running water, electricity, and so on.

I recall growing up with no running water. My mother heated bathwater on a wood burning kitchen stove. The community did have a light plant for electricity. My father and one of my older cousins hand dug a well beside our house during WWII. We did get water in the house. We didn't have an indoor bathroom until after the war. My ancestry is Danish and English. My mother said when her grandparents came from England her grandfather wore three piece suits. But his first home in Nevada was a log cabin with dirt floors. You don't give your white race much credit. We have invented almost everthing the world uses today. True, the younger generation is spoiled rotten, can't read or write and has no work ethic, but if times get tough enough they have the intelligence to learn to survive.

[Neuro]

The Middle Class was created after the Great Plague.

Huge die offs radically increase living standards.
I think 14th century Europe was more resistant to SHTF than today. With a 90% die-off you can be certain none of the technology we have would work. So we would be back at 14th Century, but without the 14th Century skill set... Poor Jews and Dindus, who can't do an honest days of work...

HEY! It would be a good thing actually!

[Shami-Amourae]

After Walking Dead's time skip:

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[singular_me]

pro gov stimulus is collectivism, and even the most dangerous kind as it is fueled by usury. Seems like a zionist medicine to me .

There is no way to put it around

I cannot advocate for much of the same, sorry, nor can I joke about any die-offs. I learned from history and can see that races dont matter for the NWO.

being in favor of big govs is too a syndrome of willing to replace the parents with an authority. Hello Freud, are you there ???

is the world ready for ultimate freedom? (corbbet report)
nope because they dont get its meaning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmM9f_aOo4k


No the response to you was adequate, as you obvious to anyone, who could read, assumed I said the exact opposite of what I said. Only someone who is stupid would do something like that. And yes I blame the JWO for the wars we had in the last 100 years. They keep the profits for themselves and let the goyims go and kill each other when their system collapse, and then it is our responsibility to pay for the war and the reconstruction which they earn handsome Shekels on with interest in money they create out of thin air.

The proposed Finnish system is to take some of the profits that automation creates, give a basic income to everyone for that, instead of employing people in administrating a non-productive welfare system, or counterproductive war-reconstruction process. So that people don't have to compete to survive.

I am sure a great number of people would still make stupid decisions that will take them out of the gene-pool (good!), but not forcing people to go to a non-productive or counterproductive job or just to convince a social secretary (non-productive job) of your right to exist in Finnland, would actually free up a vast amount of creative potential. That could be the used to create art, inventions, entrepreneurship, all of which still has to keep competing for the attention of its proposed customers.

[mick silver]

Obama going to give us free gas and black beery wine oh oh free phone too

[Neuro]

pro gov stimulus is collectivism, and even the most dangerous kind as it is fueled by usury. Seems like a zionist medicine to me .

There is no way to put it around

I cannot advocate for much of the same, sorry, nor can I joke about any die-offs. I learned from history and can see that races dont matter for the NWO.

being in favor of big govs is too a syndrome of willing to replace the parents with an authority. Hello Freud, are you there ???

is the world ready for ultimate freedom? (corbbet report)
nope because they dont get its meaning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmM9f_aOo4k
No worries Goldie! I changed my mind away from minimum income solution, instead I am all for massive and sudden population reduction combined with a reversal to civilization to 14th century technology. The only thing need to do to achieve this is NOTHING. This scenario will leave the white race a winner, no future for Jewish banksters or Dindus. THE FINAL SOLUTION. I have no doubts that the JWO has already planned for a massive population reduction. However the eugenists think that they can make the remaining 10% obey them they think wrong. The survivors will be a different breed!

As usual you don't say anything, no solutions, no ideas, just your normal psychobabble opposition . You are a waste of the time-space continuum Goldie!

[Horn]

I am all for massive and sudden population reduction combined with a reversal to civilization to 14th century technology.

Sounds like a Nazi prerogative.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmM9f_aOo4k

[Neuro]

Sounds like a Nazi prerogative.
Not at all. It is where we're heading anyway... You know those exponential curves, that shows development of world population, technology, economy etc... Well those developments sooner or later collapse, just like bacterial cultures in a Petri dish, so you might as well like the situation. If you team up with a group of reliable white people, you may even survive. :)

[Horn]

If you team up with a group of reliable white people, you may even survive. :)

You're subject to too many 80's T.V. reruns.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVonyVSQoM

[Horn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87m0xoo4Mb4

My gang will get you

Scenes of rape in the arroyo

Seduction in cars, abandoned buildings

Fights at the food stand

The dust

The shoes

Open shirts and raised collars

Bright sculptured hair.

Hey man, you want girls, pills, grass? C'mon...

I show you good time.

This place has everything. C'mon...

I show you.

[Jewboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87m0xoo4Mb4

My gang will get you

Scenes of rape in the arroyo

Seduction in cars, abandoned buildings

Fights at the food stand

The dust

The shoes

Open shirts and raised collars

Bright sculptured hair.

Hey man, you want girls, pills, grass? C'mon...

I show you good time.

This place has everything. C'mon...

I show you.

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:rolleyes: 19,615th post yet another music video intentional thread derailment

[Horn]

:rolleyes: 19,615th post yet another music video intentional thread derailment

Its a token tossed at beggars so you realize what a dirty Finnish spic you've become.

No thanks required.

[Jewboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87m0xoo4Mb4

My gang will get you

Scenes of rape in the arroyo

Seduction in cars, abandoned buildings

Fights at the food stand

The dust

The shoes

Open shirts and raised collars

Bright sculptured hair.

Hey man, you want girls, pills, grass? C'mon...

I show you good time.

This place has everything. C'mon...

I show you.


Horn decides to drop yet another turd in the GSUS punchbowl via this music video with lyrics that have absolutely nothing to do with this thread's Topic. His 19,618th post.

:(?? WTF?






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[Horn]

What part in comparison do you fail to recognize as Latino Gangs and Zionist Nazis being one and the same?

[Jewboo]

Jews will always run the government, even if they aren't Khazarian.

You don't know how to Tango.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C31lO7_Naw

Horn just dropped another turd in the GSUS punch bowl via this music video about the Tango. In a thread about Finland.


:(?? Scroll up and there it is

[Horn]

music video about the Tango. In a thread about Finland.


:(?? Scroll up and there it is


It is the Finnish Tango and it takes two, Dumbass!

Your cultural awareness is about as dense as a potato from the state you live in.


The Finnish tango is distinguished from other forms of tango by its almost exclusive performance in minor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_and_minor)keys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_(music)) and themes reflecting established conventions in Finnish folklore. As the head of the Finnish National Broadcaster's gramophone library explains, "The central themes of Finnish tango lyrics are love, sorrow, nature and the countryside. Many tangos express a longing for the old homestead, or a distant land of happiness. The changing seasons of Finnish nature are frequently used metaphors: the spring breaks the hold of the winter, and flowers appear, creating new expectations. Autumn rains and dark evenings are symbols of crushed hopes."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_tango

[Jewboo]

It is the Finnish Tango...




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[Neuro]

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He got more Shekels than thanks for those posts and that is more valuable to Hornstein!

[Horn]

and to think, all the awareness available in the world, yet you still think it wise for the state to hand people their shekels.

two tangoing dumbasses for sure. Like state fairy wonder twins at Cinderella's ball.

[Neuro]

and to think, all the awareness available in the world, yet you still think it wise for the state to hand people their shekels.

two tangoing dumbasses for sure. Like state fairy wonder twins at Cinderella's ball.
Post another music video Hornstein! You earn more!

[singular_me]

As usual you don't say anything, no solutions, no ideas, just your normal psychobabble opposition . You are a waste of the time-space continuum Goldie!

look for the thread "the end of capitalism", the system as we know it is coming to an end... and your darwinian mindset most likely too.

No psychobabble, you just canNOT wrap your mind around the meaning a free will, which means that the more people do things VOLUNTARILY, the more peace on earth. That is God' plan or self destruction.

Everything is Mind, Life is what we project and think it is, the perception of the observer. What is missing the world are elementary schools teaching the tenets of Free Will and its consequences when we try to bypass it, or ignore it... the state of affairs of the world today is the ultimate evidence.

Either you are in denial or dishonest. You choose ???

[Neuro]

look for the thread "the end of capitalism", the system as we know it is coming to an end... and your darwinian mindset most likely too.

No psychobabble, you just canNOT wrap your mind around the meaning a free will, which means that the more people do things VOLUNTARILY, the more peace on earth. That is God' plan or self destruction.

Everything is Mind, Life is what we project and think it is, the perception of the observer. What is missing the world is elementary school teaching the tenets of Free Will and its consequences when we try to bypass it, or ignore it... the state of affairs of the world today is the ultimate evidence.

Either you are in denial or dishonest. You choose ???
Pure psychobabble. The fact is that you don't have a single practical advice for a person who is concerned about his/her welfare or survival. You are only concerned with distracting from who is responsible for the current state of world affairs.