Media Push Trump As Hitler Meme

[Jewboo]

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Media Push Trump As Hitler Meme (not helping Shami)


The Daily Mail noted the comparisons here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3351011/We-war-Defiant-Trump-defends-Muslim-ban-says-m-doing-no-different-FDR-did-actually-lot-worse.html) and included side-by-side photos of both Trump and Hitler.
Shaun King at the New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-trump-sounding-hitler-america-act-article-1.2458493) points out a Philadelphia Daily News portrayal of Trump as Hitler – as did the Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/philadelphia-daily-news-cover-donald-trump-hitler-2015-12) – but King seems to have overlooked his paper’s recent labeling of the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre a “terrorist,” and his colleague Linda Stasi blaming a Jewish victim of the San Bernardino terrorism for his own murder.


In a new low even for the New York Daily News, (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/06/americas-stasi-nydn-applauds-jihad-slaughter-in-san-bernardino/) which recently branded NRA chief Wayne LaPierre a terrorist, columnist Linda Stasi has penned a vile column justifying the San Bernardino jihad murders, saying that one of the victims was “the male equivalent of Pamela Geller.”

And even before all this, there was John Kasich with an ad portraying Trump as Hitler – as Breitbart reported two days ago: Kasich Gives Half-Hearted Defense of His ‘Trump as Hitler’ Ad


:rolleyes:
(http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/06/kasich-gives-half-hearted-defense-of-his-trump-as-hitler-ad/)

[mick silver]

looks like a whole lot of people going to vote hitler I mean trump in

[ximmy]

So many of us salute each other like this at work during the day or at appropriate times.

:D

[Cebu_4_2]

some far right people might like this.

Defimation of charactor... this will not end well for the broadcasters.

[Jewboo]

Comparing Trump to Hitler is a slur against Hitler.

HITLER: My People!

TRUMP: My Profits!


:rolleyes:

[BrewTech]

Comparing Trump to Hitler is a slur against Hitler.

HITLER: Muh People!

TRUMP: Muh Profits!


:rolleyes:


2015'd it for you...

[steyr_m]

2015'd it for you...

I LOL'd

[Shami-Amourae]

It makes Trump supporters relook into Hitler. I'm flooding Trump places with pro-Hitler material, showing them The Greatest Story Never Told. The whole thing with making Hitler the biggest villain in history will/is having blowback. Trump supporters see how the Media portrays Trump as a villain, then they put into question the Hitler narrative. If you can Red Pill people on Hitler like we used to Red Pill people on 9/11, you've got a 100% certified White Nationalist for life. This is a numbers game, it's not about winning the Public as a whole to our side.

I've seen a lot turning Pro-Hitler. Go to 4chan/8chan on /pol/. Hitler is a GOD there. Young White males have been beaten down since the day we were born about how Evil White males are. Most suicides are done by White males. (https://www.afsp.org/understanding-suicide/facts-and-figures) This is the climate Post-WW1 for White males, and it's natural for them to turn to Nationalism. The Left/Jewry is so retarded to demonize/hate on White males like they are, they have no clue how much blowback they are creating.


Trump supporters are prime candidates for White Nationalism. Anything that grows our numbers is worth it. You can't unlearn this stuff.

[EE_]

http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.121078869.7568/mp,550x550,matte,ffffff,t.3u3.jpg

[Shami-Amourae]

Comparing Trump to Hitler is a slur against Hitler.

HITLER: My People!

TRUMP: My Profits!


:rolleyes:


Only a Billionaire can become a Nationalist leader in America with how things are setup.


He's our best equivalent.

[singular_me]

wanna have a leader? ... one good idea (keeping muslim migrants out) but then accept all the tyranny that follows
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United States should shut down Internet says US Presidential candidate Donald Trump
http://www.techworm.net/2015/12/donald-trump-want-to-shut-down-the-internet-in-america.html

Donald Trump fears terrorists are 'watching the Internet,' wants Bill Gates to shut it down
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-bill-gates-shut-internet-article-1.2458815
http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/technology/donald-trump-internet/index.html

[hoarder]

If Trumpstein gets elected, the end result will reveal the original intention.

[Neuro]

Only a Jew Billionaire can become a Nationalist leader in America with how things are setup.
Corrected it for you!

[mick silver]

'I Wish I Could Say Elections Mattered'

[EE_]

'I Wish I Could Say Elections Mattered'

Isn't it fun though, to see the GOP destroy itself? They will all be considered worthless before this is over.

[madfranks]

I know some here admire hitler, and while a leader like him would be good in some ways, it'd be really bad in others. I appreciate that he stood up for white people, but his economic policies were not sound. I can't say I can support any of our selected leaders, none of them represent me.

[mick silver]

Is Donald Trump a fascist?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/opinions/bergen-is-trump-fascist/index.html

[Shami-Amourae]

(not helping Shami)
(http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/06/kasich-gives-half-hearted-defense-of-his-trump-as-hitler-ad/)

Hitler dindu nuffin!

[mick silver]

Politics | Wed Dec 9, 2015 1:56pm EST Related: Election 2016, (http://www.reuters.com/politics/election2016) Politics, (http://www.reuters.com/politics) Israel (http://www.reuters.com/places/israel)
Furor in Israel as Trump to be hosted by Netanyahu after remarks on MuslimsJERUSALEM | By Ori Lewis (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=ori.lewis&) and Dan Williams (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=dan.williams&)

























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JERUSALEM Israeli politicians of all persuasions called on Wednesday for a planned visit by U.S. Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump to be blocked over his call for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, which has raised an international outcry.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued a statement later saying he rejected the remarks but added that the visit, set two weeks ago, would go ahead as planned and did not indicate support for Trump.
A government official said Netanyahu and Trump would meet on Dec. 28.
"The prime minister rejects the recent comments by Donald Trump with regard to Muslims. Israel respects all religions and diligently guards the rights of all its citizens," a statement from Netanyahu's office said.
It added that the Israeli leader had determined a uniform policy towards meeting all U.S. presidential candidates from both parties who visit Israel.
"This policy does not reflect support for the candidates or for their platforms, rather, it expresses the importance that the prime minister ascribes to the strong alliance between Israel and the United States," the statement added.
At least 37 mainly Israeli opposition legislators who make up almost a third of the 120-seat Knesset signed a letter to Netanyahu calling on him to cancel the meeting unless Trump withdraws his comments.
Michal Rosin of the left-wing Meretz party, who initiated the letter, said that none of Netanyahu's Likud party had agreed to sign although some had disagreed strongly with Trump's words.
Foreign notables generally get the red-carpet treatment in Israel. For those running for high office, this can mean more votes at home. With Israel and the United States being close allies, and Netanyahu widely seen as supportive of the Republicans against Democratic U.S. President Barack Obama, Trump may hope his visit will bolster his foreign policy credentials ahead of the U.S. election in November 2016.
Playing to U.S. fears about radical Islam after the California gun rampage, Trump has shrugged off outrage at home and abroad over his remarks, made after last week's mass shooting in California by two Muslims who police said had been radicalised.
Trump said on Twitter that he was "very much looking forward" to visiting Israel by year's end.
In the statement, Netanyahu repeated the need to fight militant Islam, saying that while guarding the rights of all its citizens "Israel is combating militant Islam, which attacks Muslims, Christians and Jews and threatens the entire world."
Left- and right-wing Israeli politicians alike, as well as Israeli Arab lawmakers, condemned Trump's remarks and said he should be barred from visiting. Ahmad Tibi, a member of parliament from Israel's 20 percent Arab minority, said he had asked for the "neo-Nazi" not to be admitted to the Knesset.
That call was echoed by Omer Bar-Lev of the main centre-left opposition party, the Zionist Union. "It is inappropriate for any Israeli official to meet (Trump) when he comes to visit," Bar-Lev said.
STRONG CRITICISM FROM NETANYAHU'S PARTY
The censure was joined by Likud officials. Energy Minister Yuval Steinitz, a senior Likud lawmaker and Netanyahu confidant, described Trump's rhetoric on Muslims as harmful from an Israeli and U.S. standpoint.
"I recommend fighting terrorist and extremist Islam, but I would not declare a boycott of, ostracism against or war on Muslims in general," Steinitz told Israel's Army Radio.
"We in the state of Israel have many Muslim citizens who are loyal. On the contrary, the extremists and the terrorists should be distinguished from the loyal citizens, and in the United States, too, there are loyal Muslim citizens."
Marc Zell, vice-president of Republicans Overseas and a party representative in Israel, also had harsh words for Trump.
"He is a demagogue. And we as Jews, and also as Israelis, know what a demagogue is, historically," Zell told Army Radio in a separate interview, saying he was voicing his own opinion rather than a formal Republican position.
"The Republican party has a long list of candidates worthy of the presidency, and we have to change the leadership in the White House, which has caused a lot of damage, but Donald Trump is not the answer," Zell said.
There was no word whether Trump would also meet with Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, who was visiting Washington and scheduled to meet Obama on Wednesday.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Trump's comments disqualified him from being president and said other Republican candidates should disavow him "right now".
The prime ministers of France and Britain, Canada's foreign minister, the United Nations and Muslims in Asian countries have also denounced Trump's comments.
Over 150,000 Britons have signed an online petition to ban Trump from Britain, but finance minister George Osborne opposed this, saying it would better to engage Trump in democratic debate "about why he is profoundly wrong about the contribution of American Muslims and indeed British Muslims".
(Additional reporting by William James (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=william.james&) and Kate Holton (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=kate.holton&) in London, Emily Stephenson (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=emily.stephenson&) and Susan Heavey (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=susan.heavey&) in Washington; Editing by Richard Balmforth (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=richard.balmforth&))





Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-israel-idUSKBN0TS17V20151209#6Bt0644rtZc5otIG.99

[Cebu_4_2]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-israel-idUSKBN0TS17V20151209#6Bt0644rtZc5otIG.99

[mick silver]

Trump Didn’t Vote to Kill 1 Million Muslims in Iraq, Hillary DidPosted on December 9, 2015 (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/trump-didnt-vote-kill-1-million-muslims-iraq-hillary.html) by DavidSwanson (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/author/davidswanson)
Thanks to Glenn Greenwald for pointing out that the U.S. media (https://theintercept.com/2015/12/08/donald-trumps-ban-muslims-proposal-is-wildly-dangerous-but-not-far-outside-the-u-s-mainstream/) is acting as though Donald Trump just invented bigotry this week (one of those ugly details I’m happy to miss by never watching television). But not only is explicit bigotry toward Muslims not new, implicit bigotry toward Muslims has been the foundation of the largest public project in the United States for the past quarter century.
The driving forces behind war planning in Washington are power, domination, profit, politics, and the inertia of war planning as a path toward career success. These sociopaths are happy to bomb Germans or Yugoslavians. The value they place on sailors in Pearl Harbor or contemplated victims of Operation Northwoods, or U.S. troops stop-lossed into insanity is negligible. They don’t think twice about overthrowing a democracy in Iran and laying the groundwork for Islamic power. They have no qualms about arming Muslim radicals in Afghanistan or Iraq, and toppling secular governments in Iraq or Libya or Syria. That most ISIS weaponry is U.S. weaponry seized from Iraq can only please the profiteers who will sell the weapons to combat ISIS. Their best friends are the killer Muslims running Saudi Arabia and nearby kingdoms. Their Christian hatred for Islam is as real as Karl Rove’s integrity or Donald Trump’s hair.

But you can’t keep dumping $1 trillion a year into U.S. militarism without an enemy as frightening as — actually it has to be more frightening than — the Soviet Union and nuclear holocaust. In the irrational world of fear, a throat slitting is as frightening as a nuclear bomb, in fact more so. Many, many people in the United States, when they stop to think about it, recognize that the wars of recent decades have been counterproductive, creating enemies rather than eliminating them, endangering rather than protecting, costing a mountain of lives and of dollars, savagely destroying the natural environment, eroding civil liberties in the name of wars for “freedom,” and brutalizing morality, justifying murder, torture, kidnapping, etc. But with fear and hatred of Muslims thrown into the mix, all of that clear understanding is erased by the need to kill Muslims. Suddenly a rich stew of World War II myths and Hollywood entertainment reminds everyone that only war works and nothing else is acceptable.
Donald Trump didn’t vote for the war on Iraq that killed (http://warisacrime.org/iraq) a million Muslims. He didn’t vote to fund it and escalate it over and over again. Hillary Clinton did that. Which is not to say that Trump wouldn’t have done so too, or worse, if he thought it would get him on TV more. The point is that the hatred is not new. Without it, basic U.S. policy would be understood as irrational.
There are now news stories from around the United States and the world about people shunning Trump businesses and expressing fear about living in Trump-branded buildings. They’re concerned that there may be an attack. No doubt among those expressing this worry are some of that majority of Americans who tell pollsters they want more war. So, they recognize blowback. It’s not a difficult concept. Hostility toward others produces hostility back toward you or someone taken to represent you. Pretty basic. But in advocating more war, millions of people are willing and able to hide their understanding of blowback in some fascist vault in a back corner of their brains. Sure, more war will produce more blowback, they may think, but hopefully it will hit somebody else — especially if I unload my Trump condo and live somewhere else, perhaps a liberal gated community with an African-American guard whose name I even know.
http://www.davidswanson.org/sites/davidswanson.org/files/ignorance.jpg
I walked by a wall recently and took a photo of it. Someone had written “Anything war can do, peace can do better.” Wisest thing I’ve ever seen on that wall. But someone else had scrawled underneath a poetic piece of pure ignorance from deep within the terrified soul of U.S. paranoia: “(Except stopping Hitler!)” I don’t think the rest of the world finds it easy to get inside this type of U.S. thinking, in which the outside world is full of a menacing evil constantly analogized to Hitler, the “new Hitler,” the “modern Hitler,” — and Hitler is understood as having arisen with no help from the Treaty of Versailles, no help from Wall Street, no assistance from the militarism of Western culture, and no possibility of being halted short of global domination except by massive violence.
Kids, dear world, in the United States, you should know are compelled to pledge allegiance to a U.S. flag every morning, and then to pray in what they call a “moment of silence.” They are then taught a mythologized U.S. history year after year with hardly any mention of the other 96% of humanity. Then they’re told that Muslims want to slit their throats. Why? What did they do? Nothing. They’d just been shopping and watching football and minding their own business. They had a flag out front and plenty of support-the-troops shit stuck to the SUV. Why? Must just be the barbarity of the Muslims. Why not kill them off? It worked with the Native Americans. Kill them off, but don’t talk about it like that out loud.
Only, if there’s a war on al Qaeda support it, and if there’s a war with al Qaeda against Syria oppose it, and if it’s repackaged as a war on al Qaeda under a new and even scarier name, support it with a passion. And if killing them is OK, what in the hell is all the fuss about over torturing them? And if torturing them is OK, what in the world could be wrong with denying them entry into the United States? This is the logic of war propaganda. Trump agrees with the Washington establishment, he just has some sort of media-driven Tourette syndrome that leads him to blurt things out. If he’s made president, the second most dangerous place in this country will be a mosque. The first will remain anywhere between Trump and a television camera.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/trump-didnt-vote-kill-1-million-muslims-iraq-hillary.html

[mick silver]

up up an away

[Jerrylynnb]

Madfranks says:

"I know some here admire hitler, and while a leader like him would be good in some ways, it'd be really bad in others. I appreciate that he stood up for white people, but his economic policies were not sound."

Madfranks, I have heard folks say that, "not sound", and I wonder why? The little bit I have read about it leads me to believe that it was a great system, but, NO system can withstand having the US, England, and Russia, all gang up on you AT THE SAME TIME. Absent that "ganging up", the prospects for a perpetually successful German economy was very good. What was it about it that made it not sound?

A similar situation over here was with the Kingfish, Huey Long, of Louisiana. He would have unseated FDR in the 1936 democratic convention had he not been killed in the hospital by jew doctors after having been shot by a jew dentist at the capitol building, and there would not have been a WW2. Up until then, Huey Long had done ONE THING similar to what Hitler had done - he had allowed big businesses to make a "reasonable" profit, but, AT THE SAME TIME, looked after the reasonable needs and expectations of the ordinary line workers and customers. Both Long and Hitler, were popular enough, with enough political MUSCLE, to be a watchdog against unconstrained, unbridled, corporate greed, and, thread that needle as to the needs of the ordinary individual without ceding to greedy demands by corrupt unions.

If there is some aspect of the economic practices of the 3rd Reich (or of Long's policies), that really are not sound, I'd like to hear about them. The little bit of reading I have done suggests to me they were working just fine and that is one reason they had to go! Their ideas were starting to catch on worldwide - and that would have meant the end of some powerful, greedy, empires. But I am eager to learn more if you have something worked out about it.

[singular_me]

hitler knew the name game before starting... sorry... he was bought by and for. A NWO puppet. Just like saddam.

also there many stories saying that he fled to latin america... all the german scientits pardoned working in america for the operation paper clip... and more dubious agendas such as the eugenics research.

time to get real.

socialism is collectivism and is the scourge of mankind. millions of germans/europeans died as a result.... and billions of others could die sooner than we think.

but hitler's paper money system was usury free. It remains to be seen how far he would have been successful, even when usury free, one just cannot print money as if there are no tomorrows. The german boom would NOT have lasted. It did work essentially because there was a lot of reconstruction after ww1...flooding the markets with money (interest free or not) is unsound.

people who are hitler nostalgic should work toward to building of their own country or state... BUT really abandon the idea that it is the paramount of all social models because it is not.

[Jerrylynnb]

Well, Singular_me, I don't really see anything in your post but mere opinions without anything to back it up. That is OK, you can have your opinion, but, I was hoping for something in the way of evidence, or data that backs up a claim.

Have you studied the monetary policies of the 3rd Reich? Why do you say they printed money "as if there are no tomorrows"? What I read was that the 3rd Reich measured very closely the amount of marks to match the total available hours of labor from the composite of the German work force - that made sense, makes sense, and it worked.

Other countries saw that it was a good idea and were figuring on following suit. And you just bang it out that Hitler was "bought by and for..." - where do you get that, except as a personal conclusion based on some forgone rejection of the successes that were manifested. And, as for the reconstruction, not a thing even got a teeny start UNTIL 1933, when the NSDAP finally got their guy (Hitler) appointed as chancellor. All that reconstruction (following WW1) wasn't going ANYWHERE until then!

Don't jump to a conclusion that anyone is "Hitler Nostalgic", just because they can see merit in a foreign system. As I said, we had our own populist muscle-man politician in Huey Long, and, he would have ended the depression in the US had he not been killed by those who wanted american boys to go re-instate jewish bankers over Germany.

And don't forget Mussolini, who did nearly the same thing in Italy.

And for all the deaths - the blame for that goes squarely on FDR, Churchill, Stalin, and all those who supported these very evil men. Germany had no plans, intentions, nor NEED to engage in hostilities. But no nation, Germany, nor the US, nor ANYONE, can sit back and see millions of their own citizens being brutalized for the misfortune of being occupied by a harsh and alien race (Poland over Western Prussia). If you really think that, just recall the US sent a whole Army (Pershing) into Mexico just because Pancho Villa's men would come across the border and harass the folks - there was not even any occupation, just a crossing and harassment. The Germans in West Prussia had to LIVE under harsh occupation with no relief, nor chance for justice without the intervention of their father nation - Germany.

Just so the readers here can get a different side to it.

[Cebu_4_2]

Well, Singular_me, I don't really see anything in your post but mere opinions without anything to back it up. That is OK, you can have your opinion, but, I was hoping for something in the way of evidence, or data that backs up a claim.

Have you studied the monetary policies of the 3rd Reich? Why do you say they printed money "as if there are no tomorrows"? What I read was that the 3rd Reich measured very closely the amount of marks to match the total available hours of labor from the composite of the German work force - that made sense, makes sense, and it worked.

Other countries saw that it was a good idea and were figuring on following suit. And you just bang it out that Hitler was "bought by and for..." - where do you get that, except as a personal conclusion based on some forgone rejection of the successes that were manifested. And, as for the reconstruction, not a thing even got a teeny start UNTIL 1933, when the NSDAP finally got their guy (Hitler) appointed as chancellor. All that reconstruction (following WW1) wasn't going ANYWHERE until then!

Don't jump to a conclusion that anyone is "Hitler Nostalgic", just because they can see merit in a foreign system. As I said, we had our own populist muscle-man politician in Huey Long, and, he would have ended the depression in the US had he not been killed by those who wanted american boys to go re-instate jewish bankers over Germany.

And don't forget Mussolini, who did nearly the same thing in Italy.

And for all the deaths - the blame for that goes squarely on FDR, Churchill, Stalin, and all those who supported these very evil men. Germany had no plans, intentions, nor NEED to engage in hostilities. But no nation, Germany, nor the US, nor ANYONE, can sit back and see millions of their own citizens being brutalized for the misfortune of being occupied by a harsh and alien race (Poland over Western Prussia). If you really think that, just recall the US sent a whole Army (Pershing) into Mexico just because Pancho Villa's men would come across the border and harass the folks - there was not even any occupation, just a crossing and harassment. The Germans in West Prussia had to LIVE under harsh occupation with no relief, nor chance for justice without the intervention of their father nation - Germany.

Just so the readers here can get a different side to it.

Completely un-armed need we mention.

[singular_me]

Thanks for sharing. But I dont subscribe to any ideology feeding or fueling war/bust-peace/boom cycles, because after the reconstruction or the crash, it is easy to take advantage of it and claim being a savior. Money used for war is unsound to start with.

Nuremberg was a hoax for many reasons, one of which was that most prominent german scientists became americans, working for nasa or/or secret harmful agendas such as project paper clip or manhattan project. Meanwhile misled german soldiers were dying in the allies' concentration camps by the millions. What patriotism? It was meant to happen that way. And it is very likely that hitler never committed suicide.

Also I dont know but I have all the images/pictures of german military parades (when the country was back onto its feet and years before being thrown into war when, hitler being featured by time magazine as the man of the year) hailed by 100s of thousands of people... and trust me, that cannot bode well. *Never*

The german currency was already backed by hard labor for war. Backed by the next war, WW2, in other words. The german people were had from the start. Just like we ALL have been since the end of WW2. We have been had... and will continue to be fooled until we understand that following leaders and obey orders is at the very core of the issue.

It is not just my opinion, it is how Reality works. Humans do not need leaders but light houses or guides (philosophical committees with an excellent grasp about Reality). more than 4000 years of the same and people still do not get the premises of freedom and free will. And it is so bad that humanity as a whole is now being soft killed, and it could get worse.

Hitler ??? NOT thanks!!

As long as war exists, economies, all of them, will remain the economies of death. You can come up with all the data about how good the 3rd reich was, I see the end result, and which is just adding to the pile of evidence that war is the HEALTH of the state - and moreover, your whole reply corroborates it.

Yes, readers can make up their minds. The challenge has NOT changed for about millennia, it all depends on willing to look at the glass half full/empty theory. Yet people always find excuses for their leaders because they wont look into the premise of war itself, which will void or destroy the most worthy ideals.

But I digress, this is the topic of my next internet column and I'd rather save my energy to finish it up instead of writing anything further on here about the hitler.





Well, Singular_me, I don't really see anything in your post but mere opinions without anything to back it up. That is OK, you can have your opinion, but, I was hoping for something in the way of evidence, or data that backs up a claim.

Have you studied the monetary policies of the 3rd Reich? Why do you say they printed money "as if there are no tomorrows"? What I read was that the 3rd Reich measured very closely the amount of marks to match the total available hours of labor from the composite of the German work force - that made sense, makes sense, and it worked.

Other countries saw that it was a good idea and were figuring on following suit. And you just bang it out that Hitler was "bought by and for..." - where do you get that, except as a personal conclusion based on some forgone rejection of the successes that were manifested. And, as for the reconstruction, not a thing even got a teeny start UNTIL 1933, when the NSDAP finally got their guy (Hitler) appointed as chancellor. All that reconstruction (following WW1) wasn't going ANYWHERE until then!

Don't jump to a conclusion that anyone is "Hitler Nostalgic", just because they can see merit in a foreign system. As I said, we had our own populist muscle-man politician in Huey Long, and, he would have ended the depression in the US had he not been killed by those who wanted american boys to go re-instate jewish bankers over Germany.

And don't forget Mussolini, who did nearly the same thing in Italy.

And for all the deaths - the blame for that goes squarely on FDR, Churchill, Stalin, and all those who supported these very evil men. Germany had no plans, intentions, nor NEED to engage in hostilities. But no nation, Germany, nor the US, nor ANYONE, can sit back and see millions of their own citizens being brutalized for the misfortune of being occupied by a harsh and alien race (Poland over Western Prussia). If you really think that, just recall the US sent a whole Army (Pershing) into Mexico just because Pancho Villa's men would come across the border and harass the folks - there was not even any occupation, just a crossing and harassment. The Germans in West Prussia had to LIVE under harsh occupation with no relief, nor chance for justice without the intervention of their father nation - Germany.

Just so the readers here can get a different side to it.

[Neuro]

Well, Singular_me, I don't really see anything in your post but mere opinions without anything to back it up. That is OK, you can have your opinion, but, I was hoping for something in the way of evidence, or data that backs up a claim.

Have you studied the monetary policies of the 3rd Reich? Why do you say they printed money "as if there are no tomorrows"? What I read was that the 3rd Reich measured very closely the amount of marks to match the total available hours of labor from the composite of the German work force - that made sense, makes sense, and it worked.

Other countries saw that it was a good idea and were figuring on following suit. And you just bang it out that Hitler was "bought by and for..." - where do you get that, except as a personal conclusion based on some forgone rejection of the successes that were manifested. And, as for the reconstruction, not a thing even got a teeny start UNTIL 1933, when the NSDAP finally got their guy (Hitler) appointed as chancellor. All that reconstruction (following WW1) wasn't going ANYWHERE until then!

Don't jump to a conclusion that anyone is "Hitler Nostalgic", just because they can see merit in a foreign system. As I said, we had our own populist muscle-man politician in Huey Long, and, he would have ended the depression in the US had he not been killed by those who wanted american boys to go re-instate jewish bankers over Germany.

And don't forget Mussolini, who did nearly the same thing in Italy.

And for all the deaths - the blame for that goes squarely on FDR, Churchill, Stalin, and all those who supported these very evil men. Germany had no plans, intentions, nor NEED to engage in hostilities. But no nation, Germany, nor the US, nor ANYONE, can sit back and see millions of their own citizens being brutalized for the misfortune of being occupied by a harsh and alien race (Poland over Western Prussia). If you really think that, just recall the US sent a whole Army (Pershing) into Mexico just because Pancho Villa's men would come across the border and harass the folks - there was not even any occupation, just a crossing and harassment. The Germans in West Prussia had to LIVE under harsh occupation with no relief, nor chance for justice without the intervention of their father nation - Germany.

Just so the readers here can get a different side to it.
Thank you, this part of the history is completely obscured to most people. The truth is that the only reason for WWII was that Germany refused to pay the impossible debt placed on it for the defeat of WWI (the responsibility of which should be placed on Britain and France), and they gave the international banker Jews the finger by printing their own debt and interest free money, in return for public works. These policies gave rise to the German economic miracle and the purchasing power of the Reichsmark was stable until end of 1944. The oppression of the Polish occupied Germans is also conveniently forgotten.

[Neuro]

Thank you, this part of the history is completely obscured to most people. The truth is that the only reason for WWII was that Germany refused to pay the impossible debt placed on it for the defeat of WWI (the responsibility of which should be placed on Britain and France), and they gave the international banker Jews the finger by printing their own debt and interest free money, in return for public works. These policies gave rise to the German economic miracle and the purchasing power of the Reichsmark was stable until end of 1944. The oppression of the Polish occupied Germans is also conveniently forgotten.
The political will of Adolf Hitler 29/4-1945

My political testament.
More than thirty years have passed since 1914 when I made my modest contribution as a volunteer in the First World War, which was forced upon the Reich.
In these three decades love and loyalty to my people have guided all my thoughts, actions and my life. They gave me the strength to make the most difficult decisions ever to confront mortal man. In these three decades I have spent my strength and my health.
It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. I have made too many offers for the limitation and control of armaments, which posterity will not be cowardly enough always to disregard, for responsibility for the outbreak of this war to be placed on me. Nor have I ever wished that, after the appalling First World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America. Centuries will go by, but from the ruins of our towns and monuments the hatred of those ultimately responsible will always grow anew against the people whom we have to thank for all this: international Jewry and its henchmen.
Only three days before the outbreak of the German-Polish war I proposed a solution of the German-Polish problem to the British Ambassador in Berlin - international control as in the case of the Saar. This offer, too, cannot be lied away. It was only rejected because the ruling clique in England wanted war, partly for commercial reasons and partly because it was influenced by the propaganda put out by international Jewry.
I have left no one in doubt that if the people of Europe are once more treated as mere blocks of shares in the hands of these international money and finance conspirators, then the sole responsibility for the massacre must be borne by the true culprits: the Jews. Nor have I left anyone in doubt that this time millions of European children of Aryan descent will starve to death, millions of men will die in battle, and hundreds of thousands of women and children will be burned or bombed to death in our cities without the true culprits being held to account, albeit more humanely.
After six years of war which, despite all setbacks, will one day go down in history as the most glorious and heroic manifestation of the struggle for existence of a nation, I cannot abandon the city which is the capital of this Reich. Since our forces are too meager to withstand the enemy's attack and since our resistance is being debased by creatures who are as blind as they are lacking in character, I wish to share my fate with that which millions of others have also taken upon themselves by remaining in this city. Further, I shall not fall into the hands of the enemy who requires a new spectacle, presented by the Jews, for the diversion of the hysterical masses.

more: http://www.hitler.org/writings/last_testament/

[singular_me]

meanwhile war has always been the HEALTH of the state... and it has been like that for 4000+ years. Killing and enslaving will always be wrong, so why expecting a different outcome when doing the same over and over?

when are world citizens going to take FULL self responsibility for blindly following orders?

Thats the real bottom line dilemma, and the consequences of expecting to replace parents with big govs and their standing armies. Just be very afraid of yourself when supporting this.

When one looks back, german history as a whole, is as bad as which of any other country. No country is better than any other one.

No escape, that is how the Universe works. Full self responsibility or keep blaming whatever PTB and die for special interests.

Free Will Supreme's Natural Law. God's Law. And now we all stand facing the heavy price tag for ignoring this. This knowledge should have been taught centuries ago, if not millennia.

[madfranks]

Madfranks, I have heard folks say that, "not sound", and I wonder why? The little bit I have read about it leads me to believe that it was a great system, but, NO system can withstand having the US, England, and Russia, all gang up on you AT THE SAME TIME. Absent that "ganging up", the prospects for a perpetually successful German economy was very good. What was it about it that made it not sound?

A similar situation over here was with the Kingfish, Huey Long, of Louisiana. He would have unseated FDR in the 1936 democratic convention had he not been killed in the hospital by jew doctors after having been shot by a jew dentist at the capitol building, and there would not have been a WW2. Up until then, Huey Long had done ONE THING similar to what Hitler had done - he had allowed big businesses to make a "reasonable" profit, but, AT THE SAME TIME, looked after the reasonable needs and expectations of the ordinary line workers and customers. Both Long and Hitler, were popular enough, with enough political MUSCLE, to be a watchdog against unconstrained, unbridled, corporate greed, and, thread that needle as to the needs of the ordinary individual without ceding to greedy demands by corrupt unions.

If there is some aspect of the economic practices of the 3rd Reich (or of Long's policies), that really are not sound, I'd like to hear about them. The little bit of reading I have done suggests to me they were working just fine and that is one reason they had to go! Their ideas were starting to catch on worldwide - and that would have meant the end of some powerful, greedy, empires. But I am eager to learn more if you have something worked out about it.

I'm going to post some links and snips of articles to discuss this. Basically, Hitler was a Keynesian to the core, who believed in government's ability to fully manage and control the economy. Expanding the money supply, issuing fiat money, and fueling a credit boom looked good while the bubble was inflating (just like it did here in the Roaring 20's due to the Federal Reserve issuing tons of new credit), but the end of WWII ended Hitler's Germany and so we never saw what would have been the inevitable economic collapse due to Hitler's Keynesian economy.

Let's start here: http://www.garynorth.com/public/7009.cfm

The German economic system was run by the central government. It preserved the illusion of private property, but it was a socialist system. The government controlled the means of production. The government issued fiat money, and it established price and wage controls. It set up a system of 1,600 cartels in 1933-36. Beginning in 1934, government officials set the prices of commodities, and this resulted in shortages of most domestic commodities. The government also expanded the power of the government over the affairs of everybody in the society.

There have been only two major studies in English of the German economy since 1939. One was called The Vampire Economy, and it described the details of this centralized economic system. It was published in 1939. You can download a copy of it free of charge here. (https://mises.org/blog/vampire-economy-guenter-reiman) The other is Adam Tooze's massive study, The Wages of Destruction (2006). They both tell the same story. (Oddly enough, both were published by Viking.)

Dr. David Gordon reviewed Tooze's book. Here are selections from his review.

As Adam Tooze has noted, Hitler in 1932 indicated his interest in job-creation programs, and this of course required government spending. But once in power, his interest shifted from job creation to rearmament. This required even more government spending; and armaments rapidly increased.

The Nazi party did not adopt work creation as a key part of its programme until the late spring of 1932, and it retained that status for only eighteen months, until December 1933, when civilian work creation spending was formally removed from the priority list of Hitler's government … [Work creation] was in sharp contrast to the three issues that truly united the nationalist right . . . the triple priority of rearmament, repudiating Germany's foreign debts and saving German agriculture … It was Hitler's action on these three issues not work creation that truly marked the dividing line between the Weimar Republic and the Third Reich. (Adam Tooze, The Wages of Destruction, Viking, 2006, pp. 24-5). . . .

In effect, Germany had embarked on a Keynesian policy: government spending became increasingly important in guiding the economy into the military channels that Hitler wanted. . . .

Keynes himself viewed the Nazi efforts with favor. In his preface to the German edition of The General Theory, dated September 7, 1936, Keynes indicated that the ideas of his book could more readily be carried out under an authoritarian regime:

Nevertheless the theory of output as a whole, which is what the following book purports to provide, is more easily adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state, than is the theory of the production and distribution of a given output under conditions of free competition and a large measure of laissez-faire.

Hitler was the head of a political party. In English, it was called the National Socialist German Workers Party, or "Nazi Party" for short. It was not called socialist for nothing. To imagine that this system was anything other than socialism is to parrot the Party Line of the Left ever since 1923. "No, no, no: the Nazis were not really socialists." Well, if they weren't, their policies surely resembled socialism. They believed in centralized control over the economy, and when they got into power in 1933, they established that control. This control grew even tighter after 1939, because of World War II.

The secret of the Nazi economy was spending on war. In a study of Nazi fiscal and monetary policy, economist Albrecht Ritschl concluded in 2000,

A critical reassessment of deficit spending during the Nazi recovery reveals a surprisingly small role for macroeconomic policy. Both the descriptive evidence and the results from multivariate time series forecasts suggest that recovery from the Great Depression was mainly driven by a rebound effect that was visible in the data already by late 1932. Up to around 1936, the German recovery was no more advanced than that of Britain or the United States, where far less expansionary fiscal policies were followed. However, even in Germany the fiscal impulse generated by the budget deficit was too small to be consistent with Keynesian demand stimulation under an income/expenditure mechanism. In order to explain the very high, at times two-digit growth rates of GNP during the recovery, deficits would have had to be two to five times higher than they actually were. Apparently, recovery was due to forces other than fiscal and monetary policy, just as in the cases of Britain and the United States. . . .

Nazi recovery appears less spectacular than was hitherto believed. Our results also indicate that government spending was dominated by war preparation already in a very early phase of the Nazi recovery. I find little justification for the popular interpretation that recovery was sparked off by non-military work-creation and the construction of the autobahn network. Investment in the autobahn reached sizable magnitudes only in 1936. All these projects pale in comparison with the rapid build-up of military expenditure, except for the year of 1933 when rearmament had not yet really begun. To secure the desired high speed of war preparation, the Nazi administration took early, often draconian steps to crowd out private demand. The growth in consumer spending fell short of the increase in national product, and the contribution of private investment to the recovery remained unimpressive.

Strict control of private expenditure was partly achieved by maintaining taxation at the high levels reached during the depression years. [Deficit Spending in the Nazi Recovery, 1933-1938: A Critical Reassessment, Institute for Empirical Research in Economics, University of Zurich, pp. 16-17.

In short, the government created jobs in factories preparing for war. Then it taxed workers so that they could not spend their income on consumer goods.

[madfranks]

The free e-book mentioned in the above post:

https://mises.org/blog/vampire-economy-guenter-reiman


The Vampire Economy, by Guenter Reimann (1939) is a rare and wonderful thing: a detailed account of how the Nazis crushed the private sector and hamstrung the economy with vast regulations, violations of property rights, inflation, price controls, and taxes.


Here is a study of the actual workings of business under national socialism. Written in 1939, Reimann discusses the effects of heavy regulation, inflation, price controls, trade interference, national economic planning, and attacks on private property, and what consequences they had for human rights and economic development. This is a subject rarely discussed and for reasons that are discomforting,: as much as the left hated the social and cultural agenda of the Nazis, the economic agenda fit straight into a pattern of statism that had emerged in Europe and the United States, and in this area, the world has not be de-Nazified. This books makes for alarming reading, as one discovers the extent to which the Nazi economic agenda of totalitarian control — without finally abolishing private property — has become the norm. The author is by no means an Austrian but his study provides historical understanding and frightening look at the consequences of state economic management.

[madfranks]

https://mises.org/sites/default/files/vampireeconomy.gif

[Horn]

Hitler's economic model was very much like Lincoln's greenback, a war model negates usury for the meantime many dictators have tried in the past I'm sure.

It does well during times of high activity ie: the next campaign, but when faced with normal or par economic activity it shudders to the fiat model it is. Any fiat government would do well economically when its riding an empirical war machine. Until there's no more Earth to munch, same thing is happening today to U.S. though slowed for oil and defacto interest.

Nothing of the reichy's economy ever resembled anything that was intended to stand the test of time, to me it looked like a Blitzkrieg. One man only has so much time on the planet.

[madfranks]

From Chapter 1 of The Vampire Economy "What Happened to the Businessman"

In both Germany and Italy the problem of unemployment
seemingly has been solved. The industries
of both countries are running at full speed, demand
apparently outstrips supply, labor unions have been
abolished, and manufacturers have become authoritarian
"leaders" o£ their employees. It is inevitable that
American businessmen, harassed by what they regard
as unreasonable government interference, finding a
large part of their profits siphoned off by taxes, direct
and indirect, confronted with what is apparently a
shrinking market, worried by increasing competition,
should examine critically, objectively, and even sympathetically,
the situation in the totalitarian States.
What has been the result for the individual businessman
in the two countries governed by administrations
put in power by business interests and devoted to
restoring economic prosperity?
What has the businessman gained in Germany? A
great deal, if we may credit the headlines in the Voelkischer
Beobachter, official newspaper of the Nazi party.
There we read:
NO UNEMPLOYMENT—TREMENDOUS SUCCESS OF THE
FOUR-YEAR PLAN—WORKERS WILLING TO WORK HARDERCELEBRATING
THE NEW WORK COMMUNITY—RISING SALES
AND DIVIDENDS.
Beneath these headlines the reader will find many
facts and figures designed to prove their truth, figures
relating to the scarcity of workers, the increase in production,
the rise in building activity, the rise in profits.
These figures, upon analysis, prove to be largely correct
so far as they go, but it is apparent that they tell merely
part of the story. They do not reveal how Germany's
new prosperity is distributed—whether it is shared by
all industries or by only a few, and whether it is confined
to a comparatively few large units. The figures do
not show what happens to the profits, how large a proportion
of them are absorbed by taxes, nor what the
businessman is permitted to do with the portion that
is left to him. They give little hint of the extent to which
the government intervenes in every business transaction.
They do not reveal whether the individual businessman
is permitted to raise his prices if his costs advance nor
whether he is allowed to shut down a department or
even an entire factory, the operation of which is proving
unprofitable.
We cannot be satisfied merely with official statistics
and reports, nor with fragmentary comments. We must
penetrate the mystery arising out of contradictory facts—
an industrial boom coupled with increasing bureaucratic
intervention, a mounting accumulation of State
debts in order that the State may maintain its position
as the consumer of the largest part of the nation's production.
The answer to this problem cannot be a simple one;
it will be found in the pages of this book. It must be
understood, however, that the role of the individual
businessman has been completely altered in the totalitarian
states, and his position cannot be judged by
American standards. The reader must try to put himself
in the place of the German or Italian businessman in
order to understand the latter's problems and his new
position. As a general introduction to the subject and
as a means of approaching it from a sympathetic point
of view, we cannot do better than read a letter written
by a responsible German businessman during a visit
to a neighboring country where he was free from censorship.
The communication might be almost as appropriate
if it came from an Italian industrialist, for there
is little difference, so far as the individual is concerned,
between conditions in the two totalitarian countries.
This man's letter expresses worries and fears unknown
to the businessman in America. He writes:

Dear Mr. X. Y.:
This letter will probably be a disappointment to you, but
I must confess that I think as most German businessmen do
who today fear National Socialism as much as they did
Communism in 1932. But there is a distinction. In 1932, the
fear of Communism was a phantom; today National Socialism
is a terrible reality. Business friends of mine are convinced
that it will be the turn of the "white Jews" (which
means us, Aryan businessmen) after the Jews have been
expropriated. Just when this will happen and the extent
to which "Aryan" businessmen will be pillaged depends on
the internal struggle within the Nazi party . . .
When we consider that Hitler himself came not from the
ranks of organized labor, but from the ruined middle class
or the fifth estate, what guarantee have we that he will not
make common cause with the bandits whom he has put into
uniforms? The difference between this and the Russian
system is much less than you think, despite the fact that
officially we are still independent businessmen.
You have no idea how far State control goes and how
much power the Nazi representatives have over our work.
The worst of it is that they are so ignorant. In this respect
they certainly differ from the former Social-Democratic
officials. These Nazi radicals think of nothing except "distributing
the wealth."
Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist
theories, so that they will have a better understanding of
the present economic system.
How can we possibly manage a firm according to business
principles if it is impossible to make any predictions
as to the prices at which goods are to be bought and sold?
We are completely dependent on arbitrary Government decisions
concerning quantity, quality and prices for foreign
raw materials. There are so many different economic agreements
with foreign countries, not to mention methods of
payment, that no one can possibly understand them all.
Nevertheless Government representatives are permanently
at work in our offices, examining costs of production, profits,
tax bills, etc. . . .
There is no elasticity of prices, sorely needed though it be
by businessmen. While State representatives are busily engaged
in investigating and interfering, our agents and salesmen
are handicapped, because they never know whether or
not a sale at a higher price will mean denunciation as a
"profiteer" or "saboteur," followed by a prison sentence.
You cannot imagine how taxation has increased. Yet
everyone is afraid to complain about it. The new State loans
are nothing but confiscation of private property, because
no one believes that the Government will ever make repayment,
nor even pay interest after the first few years. Compared
with these new State loans, the bonds issued during
the World War were gilt-edged investments.
We businessmen still make sufficient profit, sometimes
even large profits, but we never know how much we are
going to be able to keep . . .
Workers also make a fair living, particularly where the
hourly rate has not been changed. A workingman who
worked six hours a day before must now work eleven and
twelve hours daily. Often his wife and children are also
employed so that the family income has considerably increased.
. . .
You will find it hard to understand that, although from
the financial point of view we ought not to complain, no
one enjoys life any more. Everywhere there is a growing
undercurrent of bitterness. This feeling is worse now than
it has ever been. Everyone has his doubts about the system,
unless he is very young, very stupid or is bound to it by
the privileges he enjoys. Therefore the real enthusiasm we
experienced after the occupation of the Saar is no more and
it cannot be revived. Even great historical events, such as
the Anschluss of Austria and the Sudetenland, did nothing
to lift this bitter spirit. Everywhere I hear businessmen declare
that Anschluss with bankrupt concerns makes a bankrupt
enterprise still more bankrupt.
All of us—even convinced Nazis—are hungry for news
from abroad. Somehow British broadcasts seem better than
the French, but perhaps that is only our imagination, because
we know England's attitude is decisive to us. An alliance
with Italy is quite unimportant as compared to our
relations with England. Most Germans feel that another war
would be lost before it started if England as well as America
were against us.
If a war should start, we should probably have a revolution
in Germany very soon. The French Revolution will
seem like nothing in comparison. A tremendous reservoir
of hatred exists and it has no outlet at present. As in
1918, the workers will not start the revolution. It will
begin with the army; young officers are as unpopular as
they were in the old Prussian army. Personally I predict that
there will be mass desertions. A good many people feel that
the soldiers will start the revolution by massacring all the
Nazis. In any case, our government is certainly not going
to feel safe, and it is sure to introduce a reign of terror
of Draconic proportions. Hatred and bitterness will increase
just that much more.
There are terrible times coming. You can imagine how
I feel when I think that I am going to have to go through
this terrible debacle. If only I had succeeded in smuggling
out $10,000 or even $5,000, I would leave Germany with
my family . . .

[singular_me]

In short, the government created jobs in factories preparing for war. Then it taxed workers so that they could not spend their income on consumer goods.

The german currency was already backed by hard labor for war. Backed by the next war, WW2, in other words --> what I clearly stated... but didnt know taxation was so bad. But thanks for the data.

everything word resonates my disagreement with Neuro and co... endorsing a central government cannot lead to any good but the opposite. we see this every day... hitler's regime was not different

[singular_me]

amazing, we are on a pro-hard currency and for anti collectivism' s website, yet some have in mind a rosy picture of national socialism.

would have I been a german aware of all these huge military parades and indoctrination of the youth, I would have move out the country by whatever mean. Borders werent as bad to cross back then.

Hopefully I will be able to spend quite some time in peru... the andes seem to me like a paradise.


Hitler's economic model was very much like Lincoln's greenback, a war model negates usury for the meantime many dictators have tried in the past I'm sure.

It does well during times of high activity ie: the next campaign, but when faced with normal or par economic activity it shudders to the fiat model it is. Any fiat government would do well economically when its riding an empirical war machine. Until there's no more Earth to munch, same thing is happening today to U.S. though slowed for oil and defacto interest.

Nothing of the reichy's economy ever resembled anything that was intended to stand the test of time, to me it looked like a Blitzkrieg.

[madfranks]

The german currency was already backed by hard labor for war. Backed by the next war, WW2, in other words --> what I clearly stated... but didnt know taxation was so bad. But thanks for the data.

everything word resonates my disagreement with Neuro and co... endorsing a central government cannot lead to any good but the opposite. we see this every day... hitler's regime was not different

What I think is happening is because of how aggressive the white hostility has gotten lately, people are looking to Hitler as a man who stood up to defend white culture, and they are admiring that. And that part I support, because the white world needs to realize we are a unique people and there is no reason not to defend white Christian culture the same way all other races and cultures defend their own. I would just prefer not to take Hitler's economics with the package. Shami called it National Libertarianism, and I like that.

[Horn]

Luvin on Hitler is a fashionable meme, due the actions of jewish bankers.

To think they (jew bankers) haven't learned how to take full advantage of the reaction is ignorant.


TIA TEQUILA SAYS THAT HITLER HAD GOOD INTENTIONS

http://commonsenseconspiracy.com/2013/12/tia-tequila-says-that-hitler-had-good-intentions-and-paul-walker-was-an-illuminati-sacrifice/

[singular_me]

I understand and share the grave concerns of the whites, and see it is all true.... though it is important to share the data you posted to avoid falling into the same trap again.

beyond that, and in the meantime, every race should probe as far as possible because the death cult just lurks everywhere.


What I think is happening is because of how aggressive the white hostility has gotten lately, people are looking to Hitler as a man who stood up to defend white culture, and they are admiring that. And that part I support, because the white world needs to realize we are a unique people and there is no reason not to defend white Christian culture the same way all other races and cultures defend their own. I would just prefer not to take Hitler's economics with the package. Shami called it National Libertarianism, and I like that.

[Horn]

Trump is obviously much more competent at finding female companions,

I don't understand the comparisons to Hitler's blowup dolls.

For you jewboo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeB2IcKKvw

[Jewboo]

At the very moment when jerrlynnb and madfranks are presenting to our GSUS forum thoughtfully considered facts and ideas, I'll drop this totally unrelated Doors music video into their thread to draw attention to a 27 year-old loser who died in a bathtub after overdosing on drugs. Just like I wreaked all the other GSUS threads with my 18,000+ music videos and shitposts:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeB2IcKKvw


:rolleyes:

[Neuro]

The free e-book mentioned in the above post:

https://mises.org/blog/vampire-economy-guenter-reiman
Yes, he seems like a reliable witness to the German economic miracle...

His obituary when he died at age 100 in New York City 2005:

a pioneer of global financial analysis and founder of the prestigious newsletter International Reports On Finance And Currency, which provided an independent voice in the field after the second world war.Reimann was born Hans Steinicke into a bourgeois German-Jewish family in Angermuende, north-east of Berlin. As a schoolboy, he joined the Communist party, then a vigorous force in German national politics. He was instinctively drawn to the leftist intelligentsia of inter-war Berlin, and regular nights in the company of Ernst Thaelmann, Anna Seghers and Walter Ulbricht at the Romanische Cafe followed. At 17, under the pen-name Guenter Reimann, he was appointed economics editor of the communist newspaper, Rote Fahne.

More...
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2005/mar/01/guardianobituaries.germany

Not strange he is appealing to Goldie...

LMAO! ;D

[singular_me]

socialism is collectivism and nobody else than an REAL INSIDER knew better how the system worked.

As a schoolboy, he joined the Communist party, then a vigorous force in German national politics.;D Welcome to the keynesian 3rd reich!!...

the world has been ruled by collectivism since ever, BIG government --> centralization for the very few.

Jews/zionists didnt invent anything, did they? They just perfected a system already in place by various govs from around the planet. Even ancient egyptians were a bunch of collectivists, except for sure, the high priests, army leaders and the pharaoh's family. Same old same old.

I love reading what communists have to say, as much as their opponents.

but you cannot stand the idea that the 3rd reich was infiltrated from a to z, physically and intellectually.

meanwhile, it is very likely hitler escaped to latin america. LOL

you are in denial of what the word socialism stands for, admit it.




Yes, he seems like a reliable witness to the German economic miracle...

His obituary when he died at age 100 in New York City 2005:

a pioneer of global financial analysis and founder of the prestigious newsletter International Reports On Finance And Currency, which provided an independent voice in the field after the second world war.Reimann was born Hans Steinicke into a bourgeois German-Jewish family in Angermuende, north-east of Berlin. As a schoolboy, he joined the Communist party, then a vigorous force in German national politics. He was instinctively drawn to the leftist intelligentsia of inter-war Berlin, and regular nights in the company of Ernst Thaelmann, Anna Seghers and Walter Ulbricht at the Romanische Cafe followed. At 17, under the pen-name Guenter Reimann, he was appointed economics editor of the communist newspaper, Rote Fahne.

More...
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2005/mar/01/guardianobituaries.germany

Not strange he is appealing to Goldie...

LMAO! ;D

[Horn]

Lincoln being Trump's favorite President, then Lincoln's fondness for miracle greenback's and Hitler's use of an equivalent flash in the pan economic war model.

Then we can compare.

Trump's passion in economic war is to make all those worthless dollars come home then we'll be paper rich or paper feel good rich again.

[Neuro]

socialism is collectivism and nobody else than an REAL INSIDER knew better how the system worked.

As a schoolboy, he joined the Communist party, then a vigorous force in German national politics.;D Welcome to the keynesian 3r reich!!

the world has been ruled by collectivism since ever, BIG government --> centralization

Jews/zionists didnt invent anything, did they? They just perfected a system already in place by various gov from around the planet.

I love reading what communists have to say, as much as their opponents.
He joined the communist party "as a schoolboy" during WWI, which was instrumental in the destruction of 2nd Reich and loss of WWI, though I don't think he was very much involved with that at his age, but obviously he was a normal nationwrecker in training Jew boy. The communists had nothing to do with the economics of 3rd Reich, so he couldn't have any insight into that, but he could make it up with fantasies and communist propaganda!

[Neuro]

meanwhile, it is very likely hitler escaped to latin america. LOL

Hahaha, yes very likely! ;D He fathered a son in Cuba who was given the middle name of Reltih, and he posts here quite frequently too! LOL

[singular_me]

keynesianism is keynesianism... isnt it...

moreover, how cannot you see from all these 3rd reich huge military parades that germany was getting ready for war and gobbled up the hard work of germans...it is beyond me.



He joined the communist party "as a schoolboy" during WWI, which was instrumental in the destruction of 2nd Reich and loss of WWI, though I don't think he was very much involved with that at his age, but obviously he was a normal nationwrecker in training Jew boy. The communists had nothing to do with the economics of 3rd Reich, so he couldn't have any insight into that, but he could make it up with fantasies and communist propaganda!

[singular_me]

Hahaha, yes very likely! ;D He fathered a son in Cuba who was given the middle name of Reltih, and he posts here quite frequently too! LOL

the bolshevik accounts are pretty interesting to say the least. Not saying that Id believe this 100% but it has legs.

however, several leaders of the 3rd reich were found in latin america. Not so foolish as that.

[Horn]

Moreover the fascist fiat model has been reproduced world over at 1% usury which is figurative only in nature to make a previous usury appear as on the level usury.

Who makes the currency is key, usury has run its course. Next Neo-con and terror campaign funding, anyone?

[Neuro]

the bolshevik accounts are pretty interesting to say the least. Not saying that Id believe this 100% but it has legs.

however, several leaders of the 3rd reich were found in latin america. Not so foolish as that.
What Bolshevik accounts? The Soviet version was that they had the remains of Hitler, which upon analysis not so many years ago proved to be of a woman...

[madfranks]

Yes, he seems like a reliable witness to the German economic miracle...

His obituary when he died at age 100 in New York City 2005:

a pioneer of global financial analysis and founder of the prestigious newsletter International Reports On Finance And Currency, which provided an independent voice in the field after the second world war.Reimann was born Hans Steinicke into a bourgeois German-Jewish family in Angermuende, north-east of Berlin. As a schoolboy, he joined the Communist party, then a vigorous force in German national politics. He was instinctively drawn to the leftist intelligentsia of inter-war Berlin, and regular nights in the company of Ernst Thaelmann, Anna Seghers and Walter Ulbricht at the Romanische Cafe followed. At 17, under the pen-name Guenter Reimann, he was appointed economics editor of the communist newspaper, Rote Fahne.

More...
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2005/mar/01/guardianobituaries.germany

Not strange he is appealing to Goldie...

LMAO! ;D

It's not like they're trying to hide the fact that the author was a communist. As stated in the descriptions of the book,

"The author emigrated from Germany and worked on Wall Street after the war. One very odd thing: Reimann was a member of the Communist Party."

and

"The author is by no means an Austrian but his study provides historical understanding and frightening look at the consequences of state economic management."

I think the complete government controls of wages, prices, commodities, etc. of Hitler's Germany do not make for a successful economy.

[singular_me]

usury free paper currency but very high taxes ??? can't see the difference



Moreover the fascist fiat model has been reproduced world over at 1% usury which is figurative only in nature to make a previous usury appear as on the level usury.

Who makes the currency is key, usury has run its course. Next Neo-con and terror campaign funding, anyone?

my vountaryist ideal may not be for tomorrow but I will not side with anybody who is pro gov centralization in whatever fashion.

[Neuro]

It's not like they're trying to hide the fact that the author was a communist. As stated in the descriptions of the book,

"The author emigrated from Germany and worked on Wall Street after the war. One very odd thing: Reimann was a member of the Communist Party."

and

"The author is by no means an Austrian but his study provides historical understanding and frightening look at the consequences of state economic management."

I think the complete government controls of wages, prices, commodities, etc. of Hitler's Germany do not make for a successful economy.
The author was a communist Jew, you don't expect him to be objective in relationship to the Economics of 3rd Reich do you? Further he fled Germany in 1934. At best his experience of 3rd Reich Economics isn't based of 1st hand experience, at worst it is only his communist fantasies.

Germany continued to function economically until the end of 1944, after which the allied bombardment of industry and infrastructure pretty much made it impossible... Could there be any ulterior motives as to why the German economic model isn't promoted today. I read here a long time ago that average overall taxation in Germany during the thirties was about 12%, not sure if true, but if it is, that is way lower than any Western country today...

[singular_me]

thats the problem the world is facing, so many are one sided that thy will not cope with any other sources than what they deem their own version of the facts. My socialism/collectivism is better than yours... really?

if we'd put on the table all the pros and cons, from all sides of a conflict, people would just walk away from any power structure at this stage.


It's not like they're trying to hide the fact that the author was a communist. As stated in the descriptions of the book,

"The author emigrated from Germany and worked on Wall Street after the war. One very odd thing: Reimann was a member of the Communist Party."

and

"The author is by no means an Austrian but his study provides historical understanding and frightening look at the consequences of state economic management."

I think the complete government controls of wages, prices, commodities, etc. of Hitler's Germany do not make for a successful economy.

[Horn]

usury free paper currency but very high taxes ??? can't see the difference

You need a pogrom to fund, something "very necessary" typically a war fits the bill. Take the usury free Lincoln Greenback at the end of the war without anything but the war machine to support it will fall any amount of taxation will not be enough after the run. Instead of tying/backing it to something real dictators always make the same mistake cause there's only so much time to advance their agenda.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kUZq3NvSQU

[singular_me]

I read here a long time ago that average overall taxation in Germany during the thirties was about 12%, not sure if true, but if it is, that is way lower than any Western country today...

12% by today's criteria... because 12% back then is a whole lot more today as I am almost sure than the average german wages were pretty low under the 3rd reich.



again, tnx to the war machine economic miracle


Eventually this Keynesian economic policy was supplemented by the boost to demand provided by rearmament and swelling military spending.
http://gdc.gale.com/archivesunbound/archives-unbound-economy-and-war-in-the-third-reich-19331944-the/

[Neuro]

12% by today's criteria... because 12% back then is a whole lot more today as I am almost sure than the average german wages were pretty low under the 3rd reich.

Yeah right! ;D LMAO

[Horn]

again, tnx to the war machine economic miracle

You're obviously not feeling what it means to be white and privileged to march to your ultimate economic death in the fields.

Listen to this music video to connect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deRrfjOiZLI

[Horn]

Trump is obviously much more competent at finding female companions,


DID DONALD TRUMP REALLY KEEP A COPY OF HITLER’S SPEECHES BY HIS BED?

THE EX WIFE SAID ‘ABSOLUTELY!’


Following his call for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” Donald Trump has been compared to Hitler. However, can it be true that the Republican presidential candidate used to keep a copy of the Fuhrer’s inflammatory speeches by his bed?

According to Trump’s ex-wife Ivana, Donald liked nothing more than indulging in a little light reading of Hitler’s speeches at bedtime, which begs the question, was Trump, like millions of people in Nazi Germany, bewitched by there hypnotic madness of the prolific orator?

It’s difficult to say because Trump isn’t talking when it comes to the latest hatchet job from a media obsessed with comparing Trump’s outspoken, often misguided and damaging views, on par with the actions of a dictator responsible for mass genocide and dragging the world into a hell without equal.

Adhering to that fine journalistic principle that it’s never too late to dig for dirt or drag a dusty skeleton from the closet, the Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-used-to-keep-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-according-to-his-ex-wife-a6765391.html) makes the claim that in a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that hubby darling loved to settle down of an evening with a book of Hitler’s speeches.


“Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed… Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master



http://www.inquisitr.com/2623033/did-donald-trump-really-keep-a-copy-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-the-ex-wife-said-absolutely/propagandist.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeB2IcKKvw

[StreetsOfGold]

Donald Trump fears terrorists are 'watching the Internet,' wants Bill Gates to shut it down

Trump didn't get the memo.
Bill no longer does "Internet", he is too busy now killing with his vaccination fetish and putting money into making them more dangerous and toxic than they already are

[Jerrylynnb]

After I retired, I read a couple of books that changed my mind about Hitler, one was by Hans Schmidt and the other was by Wiliam Gaylord Simpson. I also read several parts of David Irving's tome about WW2. From these, I read that Germany did NOT prepare for war until late in 1938. This is a crucial plank in the discussion here - whether or not Hitler's government in the early and mid 30's was preparing for war. If you *believe* that, and I can see why phony historians might peddle that idea (it is always easy to lie about the vanquished), then, of course, the rest of the bash-hitler nonsense follows unquestionably.

If, however, you go down to reading the boring charts of production for the years leading up to 1938, and see that there was hardly any noticeable increase in war materials, then, it is hard to figure that anybody was gearing up for an all-out war.

It looked to me like Hitler was going about just what he had always been interested in - BUILDING. He was making plans to build, build, build. War was a devastating distraction to the model he had devoted his life to, and, so, it would make sense that Germans waited way too long to finally start getting geared up for war (in 1938), when, it finally dawned on die-hards that England and France would likely throw down the gauntlet once again.

And while you are at it, check out England's production of war planes in the mid-to-late 1930's - what were THEY getting so all worked up over? I read that and took note that NOBODY ever makes hay out of England's "gearing up for war" like they do Germany's. HUH? That suggests we are being mind-fucked by postwar charletons from the "winning" side. Yeah. I'm not buying their bullshit.

England was gearing up because, like I said earlier, jews just had to get europeans boys to go re-instate jewish bankers over the Germans again, and, that was what WW2 was all about. Germany proved to be a very tough nut to crack, taking all of England, Russia, and the US - imagine the mind-fuck game these jews pulled off - and are still pulling off even to this day.

So, those here who have just swallowed the "Hitler geared up for war" fiction, might want to look at the boring figures of German industrial production from 1933 throught 1938 and tell us all about this "gearing up for war" effort.

But if you come to see that Germany really DIDN't get started gearing up for war until 1938, and you refuse to fall prey to the post-war propaganda demonizing Hitler, his party, and German's in general, then, you wonder why they DIDN'T start gearing up right away, since that probably made the difference between defeat and victory in early 1942.

The thing about the NSDAP model, which worked so well in Germany, and wouldn't work here in the good ole' US of A, is that the German's view of labor is far more workable with that system than we 'mericans would ever be. Huey Long's approach for us proved to be excellent, and he was no friend of Hitler.

Each nation has different traits, strengths and weaknesses, which, free from outside intervention (ala jewish bankers), develope to match those traits. It was easy for our jewish masters to fund enterprising authors to go write tomes about how bad those mean ole' germans were and why this and why that, since they utterly destroyed all hope of normal life in that very small central European nation, and, had it not been due to a belated awakening to the Soviet THREAT, the german's probably would have been plowed under as the Roman's did to the Carthegeneans.

So, to those who believe that Hitler commenced right away gearing up for war, take it to heart that this is CRITICAL in your outlook, and, make damn sure that this is correct - get raw data to prove it. If you come to see that it wasn't until 1938 that they finally realized war was likely and then got started, an honest reassessment is in order as to what Hitler and the NSDAP was all about. I mean, looking back, we wonder why they waited so damn long?

[singular_me]

What Bolshevik accounts? The Soviet version was that they had the remains of Hitler, which upon analysis not so many years ago proved to be of a woman...

sure I recall better now, my reply to you was kinda wrong... but I saw other vids quite well researched contending that hitler's body in the bunker wasnt his either. Hence me confusing the stories. sorry

[singular_me]

kinda amazing how can some portray that state money printing and big social programs are not always as bad as they seem.

so according to jerrylynn, military spending increased from 1 year to another, just like that.

----------------------
Starvation and Military Keynesianism: Lessons from Nazi Germany
December 16, 2013Julian Adorney

Many Americans, from the Glenview State Bank of Chicago to author Ellen Brown assume that the Nazi economic regime was successful, but closer examination tells a tale of rationing, shortages, and starvation. Learning why their economy failed can teach us how to avoid the same fate.
Background

The myth endures that after Hitler inherited a country ravaged by the Great Depression in 1933, his aggressive policies turned the nation around and created an economic powerhouse. But the truth, as Professor Evans of the University of Cambridge argues in his seminal history The Third Reich Trilogy, is something far different.1 Evans, a Marxist sympathetic to Keynes and state intervention, nonetheless tells a story of rationing, shortages, and misery in the Third Reich. The Reich Food Estate, the state-controlled corporation responsible for agricultural production, regularly failed to feed its people. Agricultural output rarely surpassed 1913 levels, in spite of 20 years of technological advancement. Demand outstripped supply by 30 percent in basic foodstuffs like pork, fruit, and fats. That meant that for every ten German workers who stood in line to buy meat from the state-owned supply depots, three went home hungry.2

Lesson 1: Military Keynesianism Produces Austerity

Hitler’s rearmament program was military Keynesianism on a vast scale. Hermann Goering, Hitler’s economic administrator, poured every available resource into making planes, tanks, and guns. In 1933 German military spending was 750 million Reichsmarks. By 1938 it had risen to 17 billion with 21 percent of GDP was taken up by military spending. Government spending all told was 35 percent of Germany’s GDP.

Many liberals, especially Paul Krugman, routinely argue that our stimulus programs in America aren’t big enough, so when they fail it’s not an indictment of Keynesianism. Fair enough. But no-one could say that Hitler’s rearmament program was too small. Economists expected it to create a multiplier effect and jump-start a flagging economy. Instead, it produced military wealth while private citizens starved. Employed on the largest scale ever seen, military Keynesianism created only ruin.

LONG
https://mises.org/library/starvation-and-military-keynesianism-lessons-nazi-germany

[Horn]

So, to those who believe that Hitler commenced right away gearing up for war, take it to heart that this is CRITICAL in your outlook, and, make damn sure that this is correct - get raw data to prove it. If you come to see that it wasn't until 1938 that they finally realized war was likely and then got started, an honest reassessment is in order as to what Hitler and the NSDAP was all about. I mean, looking back, we wonder why they waited so damn long?

And up until 1938 he was backed by a international rebuilding pogrom from WWi funded by U.S. UK Capitalists (it takes a term to gain trust from your backers) before you can dictate, any good dictator would agree.

It were an International jew game geared towards Russia reaping investment, and some innocent people ended up getting hurt when the unsustainable chips were laid down



But as we shall see, Hitler did not implement any serious monetary reform after he came to power. He did make finance completely subservient to the State and, more specifically, rearmament. But he did not nationalize any banks and the Reichsbank was already nationalized by the Weimar Republic by the time he came to power. He did not end interest payments to ‘the issuing houses’, who must have made an uncanny fortune throughout the war. He did nothing to decouple the Stock Exchange from the economy...

The Stock Exchange
While railing against this typical exploitative instrument of finance during his rise to power, Hitler did nothing to limit the stock exchange’s scope and operations once he had the chance. The stock exchange system in the Reich was superficially reformed: a number of its outlets were merged and the number of exchanges declined from 25 to 9 as a result. But volume of trading was never threatened and during the early Hitler years it saw annual double digit rises until 1937, when the Reich’s economy started faltering and the stock exchange lost about 10% of its capitalization between 1937 and 1939. After the war broke out the stock market saw a massive boom, rising 50% between the falls 1939 and 1941.

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/

[singular_me]

And up until 1938 he was backed by a international rebuilding pogrom from WWi funded by U.S. UK Capitalists (it takes a term to gain trust from your backers) before you can dictate, any good dictator would agree.

It were an International jew game geared towards Russia reaping investment, and some innocent people ended up getting hurt when the unsustainable chips were laid down

established by various sources... enough of war as a whole!!!

DOING BUSINESS WITH GERMANY
10. Chase Bank
On reflection, the collusion of Chase Bank (now J.P. Morgan Chase), with the Nazis isn’t so surprising. One of its major shareholders, J.D. Rockefeller, had directly funded Nazi eugenics experiments before the war. Between 1936 and 1941,

9. Ford
Henry Ford himself was a notorious anti-Semite, publishing a collection of articles under the charming title, The International Jew: The World’s Foremost Problem.... in 1938 he received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle,

3) You may not have heard of Bertelsmann A.G. but you will have heard of the books published by its many subsidiaries, including Random House, Bantam Books and Doubleday. During Nazi rule, Bertelsmann published propaganda and Nazi literature such as “Sterilization and Euthanasia: A Contribution to Applied Christian Ethics.

THE 7 OTHERS
http://www.businesspundit.com/10-global-businesses-that-worked-with-the-nazis/

[Neuro]

established by various sources... enough of war as a whole!!!

DOING BUSINESS WITH GERMANY
10. Chase Bank
On reflection, the collusion of Chase Bank (now J.P. Morgan Chase), with the Nazis isn’t so surprising. One of its major shareholders, J.D. Rockefeller, had directly funded Nazi eugenics experiments before the war. Between 1936 and 1941,

9. Ford
Henry Ford himself was a notorious anti-Semite, publishing a collection of articles under the charming title, The International Jew: The World’s Foremost Problem.... in 1938 he received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle,

3) You may not have heard of Bertelsmann A.G. but you will have heard of the books published by its many subsidiaries, including Random House, Bantam Books and Doubleday. During Nazi rule, Bertelsmann published propaganda and Nazi literature such as “Sterilization and Euthanasia: A Contribution to Applied Christian Ethics.

THE 7 OTHERS
http://www.businesspundit.com/10-global-businesses-that-worked-with-the-nazis/
Why shouldn't businesses do business with Germany in the 30's? Oh yeah that's right Judea had decided to start war with Germany, but probably at that time they didn't have the power they have today!

[Horn]

Why shouldn't businesses do business with Germany in the 30's? Oh yeah that's right Judea had decided to start war with Germany, but probably at that time they didn't have the power they have today!

Someone had to create Israel, just as Lincoln had to free the slaves.

Both were supplemental, but work well to hide true intentions.

There's just no way Hitler could be working in tandem towards Zion or Lincoln to our enslavement.

[JohnQPublic]

...

DOING BUSINESS WITH GERMANY
10. Chase Bank
On reflection, the collusion of Chase Bank (now J.P. Morgan Chase), with the Nazis isn’t so surprising. One of its major shareholders, J.D. Rockefeller, had directly funded Nazi eugenics experiments before the war. Between 1936 and 1941,

...

Prescott Bush on the board. Signed docs leading to funding of Nazi takeover. Detailed numerous places including George Bush the Unauthorized Biography, Webster Tarpley, Anton Chaitkin

[Neuro]

Someone had to create Israel, just as Lincoln had to free the slaves.

Both were supplemental, but work well to hide true intentions.

There's just no way Hitler could be working in tandem towards Zion or Lincoln to our enslavement.
Israel was created with the Balfour declaration, an agreement between the British government and the Zionists, where the British promised the promised land in return for the Zionists joining US to WWI against Germany.

[Horn]

Israel was created with the Balfour declaration, an agreement between the British government and the Zionists, where the British promised the promised land in return for the Zionists joining US to WWI against Germany.

The entire west is rushing today to create more promised land. Russia again is the workhorse.

[Neuro]

The entire west is rushing today to create more promised land. Russia again is the workhorse.
Entire world with 500 million! Promise!

[singular_me]

Prescott Bush on the board. Signed docs leading to funding of Nazi takeover. Detailed numerous places including George Bush the Unauthorized Biography, Webster Tarpley, Anton Chaitkin

I read that book quite a while ago, and I find difficult to conceive that anyone mentally sane could ever support war again after reading it.

great read, must read, there is a free version on the net as ebook.

[singular_me]

Why shouldn't businesses do business with Germany in the 30's? Oh yeah that's right Judea had decided to start war with Germany, but probably at that time they didn't have the power they have today!

... thanks to all the eugenics programs and research by the same token, which gave firms like monsanto and co many ideas. thats really great.

then also perpetual enslavement because WW2 made sure we never got out of debts.

Thanks Hitler and all the corps and govs that thought you were the man of the year. Oh and I forgot, all the masonic zionists... LOL

they are all the same Neuro, time for you to get use to it.

[ShortJohnSilver]

Israel was created with the Balfour declaration, an agreement between the British government and the Zionists, where the British promised the promised land in return for the Zionists joining US to WWI against Germany.


What few people know is who wrote the Balfour Declaration, it was not Balfour. It was Viscount Alfred Milner, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Milner,_1st_Viscount_Milner

Who was Milner's employer, who made Milner wealthy? Rothschilds!

That it was a Rothschild pawn who wrote the letter to Rothschild should have set off alarm bells, yes?

Oddly, the Jewish Virtual Library claims that Leopold Amery, Jew, was the one that wrote it. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/amery1.html

Either way, the Great Power, Britain, was shown to be thoroughly infected by Jews; something that the Germans would have known quite well...

[Horn]

Hitler was a huge Anglo-Saxon fan and fawner over British Royalty it was more like luv bites on the Western front.

All in all the only reason Hitler is demonized is to create Israel, not because he didn't play well a rigged game from the get go, If Henry Ford did lose some major investments into Hitlers rearmament stock market, I can only see him fawning for about 2 seconds until he axed 50% of his workforce and sent them on cargo with tank parts to Normandy. Then signing onto a Social Security plan to write them off his books when they came back home.

[Jewboo]

HITLER



http://41.media.tumblr.com/6483c785347e3eca0985b594909f4b79/tumblr_nqzzwsT8dL1tdrcu8o1_500.jpg

Too funny. Horn every time anyone starts a thread about Hitler.












:rolleyes: been posting in this thread continuously 8 hours today...lol.

[Neuro]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/6483c785347e3eca0985b594909f4b79/tumblr_nqzzwsT8dL1tdrcu8o1_500.jpg

Too funny. Horn every time anyone starts a thread about Hitler.












:rolleyes: been posting in this thread continuously 8 hours today...lol.

It is of importance to him...

[Horn]

I'm just listening to my music videos, Book


Why British Parliament Will Consider Debating Banning Donald Trump From The U.K.


The British Parliament has to consider debating whether to ban Donald Trump from entering the country after a petition to keep him out rapidly gained almost 500,000 signatures as of Thursday.
The British Parliament has to at least consider debating petitions once they surpass 100,000 signatures. It's unlikely it would actually go through, though.
"The U.K. has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech," the petition's description says.
Scottish resident and longtime Trump critic Suzanne Kelly started the petition, which 30,000 people signed in less than an hour Wednesday morning. Kelly condemned Trump for "unrepentant hate speech and unacceptable behavior" that "foments racial, religious and nationalistic intolerance which should not be welcome in the U.K."
Britain's Chancellor George Osborne recommended Wednesday engaging in "robust and democratic debate" instead of banning him from entry.


Yet several British politicians are on board. Labour Party lawmaker Jack Dromey warned that the "dangerous fool" should not come "within 1,000 miles of our shores."

The Muslim Council of Britain echoed the call and recommended that Parliament apply the same standards to Trump as they would to others who "espouse hatred." Sarah Wollaston, a Member of Parliament for the ruling Conservative Party, recommended a "serious discussion." Labor MP Tulip Siddiq, a Muslim, said, "If you're not going to welcome people like me into your country, then we don't want to welcome you."


Trump caused an uproar when he proclaimed Monday that the U.S. should enact a "complete shutdown" of Muslim immigration. He also alleged that certain neighborhoods of Paris and London were so radicalized that "police are afraid for their own lives."


London Metropolitan Police rebuked Trump’s claim, saying he “could not be more wrong." London Mayor Boris Johnson slammed the comments as "complete and utter nonsense."


However, Trump has an ally in Britain First, a far-right group, which advocated to “let him” into the U.K.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/british-parliament-actually-has-to-consider-banning-donald-trump-from-uk_56683c37e4b0f290e5213f47?cps=gravity_2684_-5834623478304474024

[Jewboo]

It is of importance to him...

Horn did use the word "pogrom" previously in this thread...lol.

[Horn]

Wait for the ricochet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfAWReBmxEs

[Neuro]

Horn did use the word "pogrom" previously in this thread...lol.
Yes I wonder what he meant by that... But I would probably just get a music video as a reply if I asked...

[Jewboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDnlPZTBH5s

I'm just listening to my music videos, Book



Thread about the HITLER MEME hijacked again by Horn music videos and shitposts.

:rolleyes:

[Horn]

The Don had to cancel his Israel trip,

too many there were upset with his statements to only allow particular religions make up the country.


Donald Trump has scrubbed his much-ballyhooed trip to Israel, he announced Thursday.

Trump's visit had become a political problem for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu since the New York billionaire's statement calling for a ban on most Muslims entering the U.S. Jewish groups across the political spectrum had criticized Trump's idea, likening it to efforts by earlier generations of politicians to ban Jews.
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-trump-israel-visit-20151210-story.html



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj10EzNKA2M

Dunno, starting to look like maybe Trump's a star that never gets born?

[Santa]

"The Road To Hell Is Built On Good Intentions"

Speaking of Keynes, I recently read somewhere that he once confided that his Keynesian Economics turned out to be the exact opposite of what he had intended.

By the way, Jerrylynnb, you're an excellent writer and obviously well read. Thank you for contributing to this thread. Made my day.

[Horn]

If your looking for evidence of the Reich's early rearmament you'll be hard pressed to find state secrets,

Fleets of tanks and air force don't just spring out of the dirt within 2 years time. It was heavy and direct from inauguration the amount of which kept well away from prying eyes. Investors would be hard pressed to lay chips on destruction's roulette wheel, unless a land invasion of Russia is high on your winning bet strategy. No, it was proven not to work in the past.

[ximmy]

Fleets of tanks and air force don't just spring out of the dirt within 2 years time.

Gimli Agrees...

Gimli: And this in turn has given rise to the belief that there are no German-weapons, and that Tanks just spring out of holes in the ground!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Soy2S0MMI

[ximmy]

In the period following World War I (http://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-I), the German army had been prohibited by the Treaty of Versailles (http://www.britannica.com/event/Treaty-of-Versailles-1919) from using tanks. After Adolf Hitler (http://www.britannica.com/biography/Adolf-Hitler) came to power in 1933, however, the army began to rebuild its tank forces, secretly at first and then openly from 1938 on. This late reentry into tank manufacturing actually conferred a distinct advantage on the German army, which entered World War II (http://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-II) without being hampered by masses of obsolescent tanks, as was the case with France, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union. The German army began issuing specifications for its first tank, the Pz. I, in late 1933, and specifications for models II through IV were issued in the following three years.
Pz. IThe Pz. I was a light tank intended as a training vehicle (http://www.britannica.com/technology/vehicle-transport) for the new panzer divisions until the more powerful Pz. II, III, and IV tanks could be put into service. The Pz. I went into production in 1934.

Pz. IIThe Pz. II was larger and more heavily armed and armoured than the Pz. I, but it was still a light tank. It was nevertheless the mainstay of the panzer divisions in the first two years of the war, because of delays encountered in building the more powerful Pz. III and IV. The Pz. II went into full production in 1937.


Pz. III (http://www.britannica.com/technology/Pz-III)The first medium tank developed by Nazi Germany was the Pz. III, which did not enter active service in large numbers until 1939.


Pz. IV (http://www.britannica.com/technology/Pz-IV)http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/20/60720-004-12AE808B.jpg (http://www.britannica.com/technology/panzer/images-videos/German-Pz/37468)Though originally intended as an infantry-support tank, the Pz. IV (along with the Pz. V, described below) formed the backbone of Germany’s panzer divisions from 1943 to the war’s end.

More: http://www.britannica.com/technology/panzer

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The treaty of Versailles, signed June 28, 1919, will organize a total dismantling of the enemy military power. This treaty has clauses putting an end to the existence of the military aviation in Germany. All the aeronautical equipment must be delivered to the allied powers. There still remain some 20,000 military aircraft of which 2,400 bombers, fighters and recognition airplanes. 15,000 of them and at least 27,000 airplane engines will be thus “distributed”.

http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/images/He_162_landing_560.jpg (http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/he-162.html) But, the treaty does not forbid the manufacturing of civil aircraft, probably because to this era, the German civil aviation is practically nonexistent. The German authorities will seize this opportunity to begin an expansion that will first result in the creation of the Lufthansa (civilian organization), and then the Luftwaffe (the German air force).
Under peaceful cover, many flying clubs and piloting schools will see the light of day. There will be no longer any obstacles for the development and the formation of crews. In 1920, the Professor Hugo Junkers creates an aeronautical construction corporation.
In 1922, Ernst Heinkel launches his business on the Baltic Sea shore. In 1924, Heinrich Focke and Georg Wulf are the founders of the Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau in Brême. Finally, Willy Messerschmitt assumes the direction of another aeronautical construction corporation.
In 1926, the Deutsche Lufthansa is created, and we see the construction of large airfields and the improvement of equipment and flight instruments, to the point that the company will become, in the years that follow, the most effective airline company in Europe.

The advent of the Third Reich

The world-wide economical crisis of the thirties will allow Hitler and his nazi party to come into office, causing many upheavals. In 1934, the mandatory military service is reestablished and the Minister of the Defense becomes the Minister of the War.

In March 1935, the existence of the Luftwaffe is proclaimed, and Goering becomes the commander in chief of this new air force. At this point in time, the German Air force is comprised of 1888 airplanes and of some 20,000 officers and soldiers. In 1935, the production reaches 200 airplanes a month, and then 300 a month in 1936. In March 1936, the Bf 109 E and the Bf 110 fighters are born, as well as the Ju 88, Do 17, Ju 87 Stuka and He 111 bombers. France and England have no idea what is going on, and they are not preparing at the same pace far from it. During the civil War in Spain, Hitler gladly assists Franco (both are fascist regimes leaders). This conflict allows the German to test their war equipment. At first, a small squadron of He 51B fighters and about twenty Ju 52 are sent in Spain under the name of “Legion Condor”.

More:
http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/german-world-war-2-planes.html

[Horn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajqWJEVKMLc

[singular_me]

"The Road To Hell Is Built On Good Intentions"
Speaking of Keynes, I recently read somewhere that he once confided that his Keynesian Economics turned out to be the exact opposite of what he had intended.


many keynesians dream of seeing corruption rooted out to make their theories come true but will never admit the interest rates flaw. Though keynes really knew the name of the game, he is a criminal.... lets not fool ourselves:


The Economic Consequences of the Peace:
“Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security, but at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth.” -- John Maynard Keynes


it is discombobulating to see that hilter - or any other leader - gets a green light when using a fraudulent monetary policy against his people. Voting is no longer an option, unless a candidate advocates for an usury/tax free system.

it is discombobulating to see that GMOs are being exposed every day but that the 3rd reich eugenics (teaming up with the masonic-zionists) are never a topic among hitlers' followers. The german masses were also kept in the dark, the vast majority didnt know about eugenics. They have been deceived. I am almost sure that hitler and his ilk would have been impeached if they knew. Today many people dont know about biotech and genetic research, and that's why they remain unpunished. Same deception or lack of awareness. Hitler nostalgia turning a blind eye to this very fact is either absolutely misguided or mere ideological denial.

Nobody, no poloticians, can save us... and people spend so much time fighting among themselves that they are completely oblivious to the NWO "divide and rule clap trap"

The other day I was chatting about the 'infinite divisibility of dualism' , which is the nature of the Matrix itself. Its a powerful weapon when understanding that only fear causes this infinite divisibility, which can go either way, used for a greater good or total doom.

[Neuro]

In the period following World War I (http://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-I), the German army had been prohibited by the Treaty of Versailles (http://www.britannica.com/event/Treaty-of-Versailles-1919) from using tanks. After Adolf Hitler (http://www.britannica.com/biography/Adolf-Hitler) came to power in 1933, however, the army began to rebuild its tank forces, secretly at first and then openly from 1938 on. This late reentry into tank manufacturing actually conferred a distinct advantage on the German army, which entered World War II (http://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-II) without being hampered by masses of obsolescent tanks, as was the case with France, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union. The German army began issuing specifications for its first tank, the Pz. I, in late 1933, and specifications for models II through IV were issued in the following three years.
Pz. I

The Pz. I was a light tank intended as a training vehicle (http://www.britannica.com/technology/vehicle-transport) for the new panzer divisions until the more powerful Pz. II, III, and IV tanks could be put into service. The Pz. I went into production in 1934.

Pz. II

The Pz. II was larger and more heavily armed and armoured than the Pz. I, but it was still a light tank. It was nevertheless the mainstay of the panzer divisions in the first two years of the war, because of delays encountered in building the more powerful Pz. III and IV. The Pz. II went into full production in 1937.


Pz. III (http://www.britannica.com/technology/Pz-III)

The first medium tank developed by Nazi Germany was the Pz. III, which did not enter active service in large numbers until 1939.


Pz. IV (http://www.britannica.com/technology/Pz-IV)

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/20/60720-004-12AE808B.jpg (http://www.britannica.com/technology/panzer/images-videos/German-Pz/37468)Though originally intended as an infantry-support tank, the Pz. IV (along with the Pz. V, described below) formed the backbone of Germany’s panzer divisions from 1943 to the war’s end.

More: http://www.britannica.com/technology/panzer

-------------


The treaty of Versailles, signed June 28, 1919, will organize a total dismantling of the enemy military power. This treaty has clauses putting an end to the existence of the military aviation in Germany. All the aeronautical equipment must be delivered to the allied powers. There still remain some 20,000 military aircraft of which 2,400 bombers, fighters and recognition airplanes. 15,000 of them and at least 27,000 airplane engines will be thus “distributed”.

http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/images/He_162_landing_560.jpg (http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/he-162.html)
But, the treaty does not forbid the manufacturing of civil aircraft, probably because to this era, the German civil aviation is practically nonexistent. The German authorities will seize this opportunity to begin an expansion that will first result in the creation of the Lufthansa (civilian organization), and then the Luftwaffe (the German air force).
Under peaceful cover, many flying clubs and piloting schools will see the light of day. There will be no longer any obstacles for the development and the formation of crews. In 1920, the Professor Hugo Junkers creates an aeronautical construction corporation.
In 1922, Ernst Heinkel launches his business on the Baltic Sea shore. In 1924, Heinrich Focke and Georg Wulf are the founders of the Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau in Brême. Finally, Willy Messerschmitt assumes the direction of another aeronautical construction corporation.
In 1926, the Deutsche Lufthansa is created, and we see the construction of large airfields and the improvement of equipment and flight instruments, to the point that the company will become, in the years that follow, the most effective airline company in Europe.

The advent of the Third Reich

The world-wide economical crisis of the thirties will allow Hitler and his nazi party to come into office, causing many upheavals. In 1934, the mandatory military service is reestablished and the Minister of the Defense becomes the Minister of the War.

In March 1935, the existence of the Luftwaffe is proclaimed, and Goering becomes the commander in chief of this new air force. At this point in time, the German Air force is comprised of 1888 airplanes and of some 20,000 officers and soldiers. In 1935, the production reaches 200 airplanes a month, and then 300 a month in 1936. In March 1936, the Bf 109 E and the Bf 110 fighters are born, as well as the Ju 88, Do 17, Ju 87 Stuka and He 111 bombers. France and England have no idea what is going on, and they are not preparing at the same pace far from it. During the civil War in Spain, Hitler gladly assists Franco (both are fascist regimes leaders). This conflict allows the German to test their war equipment. At first, a small squadron of He 51B fighters and about twenty Ju 52 are sent in Spain under the name of “Legion Condor”.

More:
http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/german-world-war-2-planes.html
So they started arming for war prior to 1938. A giveaway seems to be the change of name from ministry of defense to ministry of war in 1934...

[Horn]

Was Barbarossa derailed by the Balkans Campaign?
This is a short extract from a 15,000 word article on Operation Barbarossa that I wrote for the special annual edition of "Against the Odds (http://www.atomagazine.com/index.cfm)" Magazine a couple of years ago. I offer it here as a fun bit of speculation. I look forward to your comments.


Operation Barbarossa started later than was planned, that is incontrovertible.


Many historians follow then British Foreign Minister AnthonyEden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Eden) in pointing to the diversion of large numbers of Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe forces into a two month campaign in the Balkans, as a key reason for the Germans being ‘too late and too slow’ in Barbarossa. Historian John Keegan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keegan) for instance, claims that Germany’s response to the Britain landing troops to support Greece’s fight against Mussolini, diverted resources which “immensely assisted” the survival of the Soviet Union. Filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leni_Riefenstahl) claimed that Hitler had told her “if the Italians hadn’t attacked Greece and needed our help, the war would have taken a different course. We could have anticipated the Russian cold by weeks and conquered Leningrad and Moscow. There would have been no Stalingrad”.


This view has been disputed, not least by the Soviets and their apologists. Many and varied claims explain how diverting dozens of crack divisions to a hard campaign, in incredibly difficult terrain, where they suffered significant losses, really had no affect whatsoever on the effectiveness of Barbarossa.

http://rethinkinghistory.blogspot.com/2013/10/was-barbarossa-derailed-by-balkans.html

[mick silver]

In effect, Germany had embarked on a Keynesian policy: government spending became increasingly important in guiding the economy into the military channels that Hitler wanted. . . . ............................................... In effect, USA had embarked on a Keynesian policy: government spending became increasingly important in guiding the economy into the military channels that OBAMA wanted. . . .

[Cebu_4_2]

In effect, Germany had embarked on a Keynesian policy: government spending became increasingly important in guiding the economy into the military channels that Hitler wanted. . . . ............................................... In effect, USA had embarked on a Keynesian policy: government spending became increasingly important in guiding the economy into the military channels that OBAMA wanted. . . .

there I just don't get.
There is something deep in

[Jewboo]

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1485/99/1485994131790.jpg

[Horn]

Jews still seem to be able to retain their power over the masses by the looks of your avatar, jewboo.