Thankful for Coffee this Xmas

[madfranks]

Ha ha

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/12/jack-perry/merry-christmas/


COFFEE: I wrote an article here about this life-giving elixir some time ago, back when Starbucks was trying to do a race-relations coffee klatch. I mean, seriously, what were we going to do—order coffee black and feel like a racist for doing so? Meanwhile, here in Arizona, there was an uproar when Starbucks had plain red coffee cups for Christmas that didn’t say Merry Christmas on them. That it was anti-Christian. Look, we don’t need cups to remind us that coffee is PROOF that God had the happiness of humanity always in mind during Creation. That truth is self-evident and that first sip of coffee is always followed with praises to God, no matter how strident an atheist be the coffee-sipper. God invented coffee, and let no one forget that. Coffee is one of the few drugs we have left that the government hasn’t stuck their fingers into and demanded a prescription for, or outlawed entirely. Don’t tell me that you didn’t know coffee was a psychoactive liquid. You haven’t been at my house before that first sip of java hit my palate. Remember that scene in “Braveheart” where Mel Gibson loudly asks the assembled Scots, “What will you do without freedom?!” Yeah, well, I hear that phrase as: “What will you do without coffee?!” This Christmas Season, let us all bow our heads and be thankful that the government has not gained the ability to regulate coffee in order to “protect” us from everything but them.

[Neuro]

Coffee was actually highly regulated and taxed in 18th century Europe trade.

[Ponce]

I can only wonder for how long my coffee will be good for.....about 25 red metal cans of Folgers and 25 more of different types, already had them for about 15 years.

V

[mick silver]

same here ponce but we buy new an drink the older one's

[madfranks]

Coffee was actually highly regulated and taxed in 18th century Europe trade.

Don't give the current government any ideas!

[midnight rambler]

I can only wonder for how long my coffee will be good for.....about 25 red metal cans of Folgers and 25 more of different types, already had them for about 15 years.

V

Coffee goes stale, and much quicker than you think.

[Neuro]

Don't give the current government any ideas!
No worries, they figured if they keep the price of coffee low, it would stop people from rebelling. In Soviet Union in the 80's a half kilo of coffee was almost an average monthly salary. Possibly this was the main reason for that empires downfall. During the 18th century you both had the French and the American revolution, most likely reason was the exhorbitant price of coffee. You can take away everything from a man as long he has coffee. Take the coffee away and you have a PROBLEM!

[palani]

Guy I knew was in WWII Germany following the war. He stayed to build military bases. One day he noticed a German bus boy in the mess dumping out the coffee grounds. He told them to never do that again and he collected them, spread the grounds on a tarp on the roof and sold them on the black market for $10 a pound. The Germans boiled coffee while Americans generally perk theirs. Lots of goody being thrown away.

[madfranks]

Guy I knew was in WWII Germany following the war. He stayed to build military bases. One day he noticed a German bus boy in the mess dumping out the coffee grounds. He told them to never do that again and he collected them, spread the grounds on a tarp on the roof and sold them on the black market for $10 a pound. The Germans boiled coffee while Americans generally perk theirs. Lots of goody being thrown away.

He was selling used coffee grounds for $10 a pound?

[palani]

He was selling used coffee grounds for $10 a pound?

Did they have military script in post-war Germany?

I recall hearing of a German bus boy getting a gold coin as a tip in pre-WWI Germany. He put it in a drawer and forgot about it. Twenty years later in the period between WWI and WWII he found it and used it to buy the restaurant.

[JohnQPublic]

I can only wonder for how long my coffee will be good for.....about 25 red metal cans of Folgers and 25 more of different types, already had them for about 15 years.

V

If you want to store coffee, buy whole beans and buy yourself a hand grinder. Get vacuum packed coffee, and store in cool dry room temperature conditions (not a refrigerator- moisture is bad). Still, I do not know how long it will last, but ground coffee is not going to last as long.

[JohnQPublic]

No worries, they figured if they keep the price of coffee low, it would stop people from rebelling. ...

Bread, Circuses, and a cup of Joe?

[StreetsOfGold]

If you want to store coffee, buy whole beans and buy yourself a hand grinder. Get vacuum packed coffee, and store in cool dry room temperature conditions (not a refrigerator- moisture is bad). Still, I do not know how long it will last, but ground coffee is not going to last as long.

The ideal way to store coffee is GREEN beans, (not roasted) which properly kept can last for several years.

I am not associated in any way with this site but have used it in the past with good results >
http://www.coffeebeancorral.com

[Hitch]

The ideal way to store coffee is GREEN beans, (not roasted) which properly kept can last for several years.

I am not associated in any way with this site but have used it in the past with good results >
http://www.coffeebeancorral.com

I bought some unroasted green beans, and vacuum sealed them. I figure they should last many years. The trick is learning how to roast them correctly. I have a stove top pan roaster and just haven't gotten consistent results.

[JohnQPublic]

I bought some unroasted green beans, and vacuum sealed them. I figure they should last many years. The trick is learning how to roast them correctly. I have a stove top pan roaster and just haven't gotten consistent results.

Roasting is an art. Still un-optimally roasted coffee is far better than none.

[Neuro]

I bought 12 half kilo packs of ground roasted vacuum packed coffee close to expiry date at a discount this summer, which I stored in my root cellar, now it is 4-5 months past expiry and it still tastes good IMO, but with a slight reduction in quality. After this I have bought 15-20 more packs of vaccum packed ground coffee with expiry date next year, which I store in the root cellar too. I think it will be good at least a year after expiry date stored in a cool place, moisture doesn't matter if it is vaccum packed. Coffee in touch with air goes bad within a month though!

[Galen]

When the Zombie Apocalypse comes, even bad coffee will taste better than no coffee.

[palani]

When the Zombie Apocalypse comes, even bad coffee will taste better than no coffee.

When at Cafe De Monte in the Vieux Carre try the chicory coffee. Shortages of coffee bean leads to alternatives that over time become custom
http://www.cafedumonde.com/coffee

Coffee Black or Au Lait

Coffee first came to North America by way of New Orleans back in the mid-1700's. It was successfully cultivated in Martinique about 1720, and the French brought coffee with them as they began to settle new colonies along the Mississippi.

The taste for coffee and chicory was developed by the French during their civil war. Coffee was scarce during those times, and they found that chicory added body and flavor to the brew. The Acadians from Nova Scotia brought this taste and many other french customs (heritage) to Louisiana. Chicory is the root of the endive plant. Endive is a type of lettuce. The root of the plant is roasted and ground. It is added to the coffee to soften the bitter edge of the dark roasted coffee. It adds an almost chocolate flavor to the Cafe Au Lait served at Cafe Du Monde.

[Glass]

I've been to the US and despite being offered and driking quite few cups of what I was told was coffee, I don't think I actually got a coffee the whole time I was there. I certainly had many cups of mud water which people thought or suggested were coffee but alas.... Starbucks is certainly not coffee. They do make a flavourful cup of cinnamon mud milk. I did end up at some kind of Beanz place which might have been in Canada IIRC which sold coffee. yes was in Vancouver.

Now in defence of the US coffee makers and drinkers guild, Florida might not be the place to find coffee. I might have needed to do more research but I did confer with others more widely travelled and they suggested that was about par.

I like my coffee strong, no sugar and without flavourings. A bit of milk ok. From macchiato to flat white works best for me.

Also Starbucks is equally bad everywhere, not just in the US.

[JohnQPublic]

I've been to the US and despite being offered and driking quite few cups of what I was told was coffee, I don't think I actually got a coffee the whole time I was there. I certainly had many cups of mud water which people thought or suggested were coffee but alas.... Starbucks is certainly not coffee. They do make a flavourful cup of cinnamon mud milk. I did end up at some kind of Beanz place which might have been in Canada IIRC which sold coffee. yes was in Vancouver.

Now in defence of the US coffee makers and drinkers guild, Florida might not be the place to find coffee. I might have needed to do more research but I did confer with others more widely travelled and they suggested that was about par.

I like my coffee strong, no sugar and without flavourings. A bit of milk ok. From macchiato to flat white works best for me.

Also Starbucks is equally bad everywhere, not just in the US.

V60 pour- usually pretty good.

[Horn]

I could probably sell you guys 12oz some stuff from here that you could mix into 3lbs from up there and make a better cup.

[Glass]

I usually get double shot. I'm being a bit of an idiot about it. To be fair the coffee can be pretty crap here as well. I think the hit rate is good here. I would expect you'd get good coffee in NY,LA etc. Places I've never been.

I guess for horse trading and barter my long mac is not going to cut it is it?

[Neuro]

Also Starbucks is equally bad everywhere, not just in the US. Good to know it's not worth drinking anywhere. I drank there filter coffee twice, one time 8 years ago, another time 5 years ago (because I wasn't sure I remembered it correctly being so bad). But maybe it is among the best possible in the US?

[gunDriller]

I have a few coffee trees and the big ones have started making seeds (beans).

They're 4 years old.

[mick silver]

never been to Starbucks there over priced for there coffee an I like my coffee strong a black

[madfranks]

never been to Starbucks there over priced for there coffee an I like my coffee strong a black


If you like strong coffee, try this:

http://www.deathwishcoffee.com/

[Horn]

But maybe it is among the best possible in the US?

Dunkin Donuts had the best cup of regular coffee, that was about 10yrs ago though.

Some of these gringo beach cafes here will give you a full 12oz of espresso, one of those and your blasted for the entire day, no recovery.

[JohnQPublic]

Good to know it's not worth drinking anywhere. I drank there filter coffee twice, one time 8 years ago, another time 5 years ago (because I wasn't sure I remembered it correctly being so bad). But maybe it is among the best possible in the US?

Some of the independents are good. Also buy good coffee and brew it at home.

Lot of independents buy good coffee, custom roast, then brew using the V60 technique (a marketing term for dripping through a [60 deg.] filter). It is usually comparable in price to a Starbucks Espresso drink (i.e., expensive). Intelligentsia coffee (http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com/article/pourover-brewing) in Chicago made it trendy.


https://youtu.be/0qXJEJfBLCk

[JohnQPublic]

I flew through Dayton recently and had this as a V60 pourover: http://bostonstoker.com/project/jose-isidro-heart-to-honduras/?removed_item=1

I drank it black, and it was an excellent tasting coffee. I had a full cup, plus almost a second (it was a large pour-over), and in some ways I was sorry about it because I could not sleep at all on the plane coming back! I considered buying a bag of beans, but it was like $17 for 12 oz., and I have enough coffee at home already (right now I am drinking Peets Coffee Santa Domingo which I got for about $6.99/lb. on sale at my supermarket; I grabbed two pounds at that price).