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mick silver
17th December 2015, 04:20 PM
Obama Meets With Bloomberg as He Readies Gun Control Executive Order
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On Wednesday, President Barack Obama met with former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg to talk about gun violence. Specifically, the pair talked about what can be done to end the threat that America's loose standards for access to them poses to public safety.
"The two discussed ways to keep guns out of the hands of those who should not have access to them, and what more could be done at the state and local level to help address gun violence in America," the White House said of their meeting.
The president's meeting, held with perhaps the most influential gun control advocate in the nation, was a good opportunity to discuss lobbying strategy in light of the rash of mass shootings in 2015 that have sparked a renewed push for ambitious gun control legislation among reformers.
It also serves as a reminder of the unique political path toward any realistic change on gun policy, when Congress has proven almost pathologically incapable of passing even modest gun reform after years of debate on the matter.
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.Obama Meets With Bloomberg as He Readies Gun Control Executive OrderSource: Thibault Camus/AP
Bloomberg's clout: In 2014, Bloomberg pledged to spend $50 million on efforts to sway battles over gun policy on the state level, backing organizations committed to policies like expanding background checks. So far, the effort hasn't been hugely successful in achieving results, but he is of course fighting an uphill battle. The National Rifle Association boasts millions of members, spends tens of millions of dollars every election cycle and deftly channels the preferences of huge swaths of the population who are fiercely protective of America's gun culture and rights.
Obama, who has pleaded to the public and Congress to rally for meaningful gun control for years, has decided to take matters into his own hands. His administration is in the process of readying an executive order designed to close what's commonly called the "gun show loophole," a gap in current law that allows people to purchase guns from private vendors — most notably at gun shows — without being subject to a background check. CNN reported that the White House has struggled to develop the legal argument for the executive order so far, but Valerie Jarrett, a senior adviser to Obama, says that it should be released in "short order."
Obama is waging a lonely battle. Despite the fact that in 2015 there have been more days with mass shootings than there have been days without them, he has no reason to be optimistic that Congress will act on calls for gun control reform. In 2013, in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre that rattled the nation, Congress failed to pass expanded background checks on gun sales, despite the support of nearly 90% of Americans.
Recent polling suggests that things may be worse now — one recent poll found support for an assault weapons ban to be at its lowest level in two decades. That doesn't bode well for legislation calling for just that, introduced by congressional Democrats on Wednesday.
Terrorism is top of mind for the public, and there's a vibrant debate going on among policymakers and in the presidential race on how to manage the rise of ISIS. But figuring out a way to control the purchase and flow of guns, which are far more lethal for the country, shows little sign of gaining traction. It seems to be the American way.
mick silver
17th December 2015, 04:27 PM
the comments keep getting better , still don't know what yahoo dong letting people say what they want To Congress:
We preserve our freedoms
using four boxes:
soap, ballot,
jury, and cartridge.
I'll KEEP my GOD,
my FREEDOM,my GUNS,
and my MONEY,
YOU keep the damn CHANGE!
The Second Amendment states in different words " regardless if it is a threat in reality or just from fear within a citizen; the citizen has the rights, "Regardless" and no one can change that right to bear guns, regardless; a gun is a gun.
It is against the Constitution for you to try to change those rights because the citizens have to right to protect themselves; even from people like those who are trying to bind us for life, liberty and our freedoms.
The Second Amendment of the Constitution stipulates that the rights of people of the United States to possess and bear arms "shall not be infringed."
Infringed: It is against the Constitution for you to try to change those rights because the citizens have to right to protect themselves regardless, in any form a gun is a gun.
Simply Put. Do you understand? Regardless, shall not be infringed. https://news.yahoo.com/obama-meets-bloomberg-readies-gun-200715633.html HE STILL DOESN'T GET IT. THICK, OBSTINATE, STUPID, STUBBORN, RACIST, COMMUNIST!
BUDGET AND BORDER! I wish this community organizer would stop doing EVERYTHING ELSE EXCEPT his primary job of BUDGET AND BORDER! Not talk to the pope, not start wars with Russia he cannot afford because we are bankrupt, not go to Paris to discuss the weather, not "reassure" us, not worry about gun control, not defend his fellow muslims, not bash the elephants. GET TO WORK FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE and balance the BUDGET and close the BORDER!!!
mick silver
17th December 2015, 04:32 PM
When these two COMMUNISTS, "Lenin and Stalin" get together legal firearm owners know what is coming. These two have not one bit of regard for CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS. They are both traitors, not only to the safety of AMERICA and American values. But also to the people who obey the laws. #$%$ OBAMA executive orders are never opposed. Where is Congress to fight against any that he has passed??? Cowards!!! Firearms owners will be loosing all their Constitutional 2nd amendment rights and Bill of Rights that we have. Bottom line is confiscation in their evil minds. You can have all the darn marches you want. Do you really think this matters to him? These yellow cowards have no fear. Maybe it's time people show them what fear is. Start with impeachment and kicking BLUMBERS butt to England where he loves it so much. If that doesn't work, well figure it out!!!! More
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The media-manipulators, money-masters, and hostile elite in America are not concerned with criminals, terrorists, or the mentally ill: They are afraid of armed revolution. The "Gun Control" agenda is designed to disarm law-abiding Americans in order to better control US.
“The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties, and control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country.
They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government. It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.” New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, New York Times, March 26, 1922.
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Of the 22 major federal gun statutes, 20 are almost completely ignored. And they happen to be
the laws intended to combat the black market for firearms.
The study, "The Enforcement Gap: Federal Gun Laws Ignored" used data obtained for the Dept.
of Justice through FOI Act. It found that in 2000, 2001, and 2002, both the Clinton and Bush
administrations neglected a slew of laws targeting the black market, corrupt dealers, "straw
purchase" scams, sales to minors, people who lied on their criminal background checks and
stolen guns.
85% of all gun prosecutions in this period were cases where a convicted felon had a firearm or a
gun was used in the course of a violent or drug crime. The Feds often tossed the gun charge.
midnight rambler
17th December 2015, 04:57 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?86334-Barry-to-issue-an-EO-closing-the-so-called-gun-show-loophole&highlight=show+loophole
mick silver
17th December 2015, 05:07 PM
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Shami-Amourae
17th December 2015, 05:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcv1TPRxas
7th trump
17th December 2015, 05:27 PM
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
That only applies to "The People"....not federally regulated second class "US citizens".
Seriously when are you going to take what I've shown you with any credence?
Got a ssn and currently contributing into the system?
If yes, you are not a member of the "The People".....you are controlled and regulated cattle that are given a resemblance of being The People.
Ponce
17th December 2015, 05:27 PM
As long as there is no people control there will be no gun control......it will never happen.
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Twisted Titan
18th December 2015, 03:53 AM
I dont care what happens at this point.
I got enough to defend me and mines.
Anyone who ATTEMPTS to alter that fact is going to pay a severe penalty.
The best thing you can do is get into a similar situation and adopt a similiar mindset.
The rest will take care of itself.
7th trump
18th December 2015, 06:23 AM
Who cares about the gun show loop hole.
Anyone and I mean anyone can order the barrels and uppers for an AR platform and order the 80% lower and finish it themselves legally without any federal paper work, transfer or background checks.
Its just a dog and pony show where the federal government really has no teeth when it comes down to making your own firearm.
They cannot make anyone not make their own firearm.
midnight rambler
18th December 2015, 06:59 AM
Who cares about the gun show loop hole.
Anyone who wants a gun other than what iffy gun be assembled from an 80% receiver.
7th trump
18th December 2015, 07:11 AM
Anyone who wants a gun other than what iffy gun be assembled from an 80% receiver.
Shows your intelligence level doesn't it.
Just need a good vice and an 80% lower is as good as any high end lower.
They make kits that uses a router that turn out lowers you wont know is from an 80%.
Anyway keep on showing your intelligence people here are starting to see you for who you really are........bolshevic-comrad-ski.
midnight rambler
18th December 2015, 07:15 AM
Major manufacturers of (what are considered lower quality) ARs that turn out thousands of very inconsistent ARs and yet you are so delusional to think that some homemade AR built from a parts kit and an 80% lower won't have issues. Anyone RKI knows that parts guns can be and are very iffy, and reliability is the most crucial factor for any gun.
madfranks
18th December 2015, 07:16 AM
I dont care what happens at this point.
I got enough to defend me and mines.
So do I, but when my kids grow up and have their own families, I want them to be able to protect themselves too. So I do care at this point, I don't want to be the last one in my family line to have firearms.
Twisted Titan
18th December 2015, 08:57 AM
The best thing you can do is buy as much as you can afford and put the rest in deep storage ammo cans.
You cant change what they intend to do.
You can only make the appropriate provisions.
The Good Lord will put in your family Men and Women that have the ears to hear the wisdom you will be passing on in your twilight.
I have reached a point where do not trust promises of men or processes that have been corrupted.
I trust tangibles.
And now more then ever we need to be buying those tangibles that may be next to impossible to get later.
7th trump
18th December 2015, 09:51 AM
Major manufacturers of (what are considered lower quality) ARs that turn out thousands of very inconsistent ARs and yet you are so delusional to think that some homemade AR built from a parts kit and an 80% lower won't have issues. Anyone RKI knows that parts guns can be and are very iffy, and reliability is the most crucial factor for any gun.
Wow...what a deluge of propaganda. I wont argue that some manufacturers do spit out lower quality lowers. Most however, manufacture mill spec lowers or higher for marketing purposes.
Ole bolshevic-comradinski midnight liar here is just talking again. Lets compare what he has to say about the AR to the AK.
The AK is just a stamped out piece of cheap steel that houses the trigger mech. By stamped I mean its a flat piece of steel with holes which is bent to shape thus weakening the over all gun. Accuracy of the AK is well know that the AK isn't that great past a few hundred feet. The AR is accurate beyond that of the AK. Most AK's fire a 7.62 round (basically a 30 cal.) but it doesn't have the bunch to keep the bullet flat like the 223 or 556 round of the AR. The AR has a more accurate pattern at longer distances.
The AR lower (houses the trigger mech) is a solid piece of high quality aluminum. Its machined so the metal doesn't have any weak spots from bending.
The uppers is the same ...machined form a solid piece of high quality (mill spec) aluminum and threaded to the barrel. The carrier bolt is then mated to the barrel.
The AK ...well the breach/barrel is riveted to the stamped out piece of "now" weak steel. Its not threaded like the AR nor is it rigid by design like the AR.
The soviets don't care about accuracy as much as they care about getting cheap weapons on the battle field. Their philosophy is that more is better. They are the worlds death cult military industrial complex that dwarfs the US MIC that bankrupts its people leaving the Russian people in poverty for the last 100 years.
Yes, the soviet Russians has produced more weapons than the US in the last 100 years. The US may spend more on quality weapons to counter Russian communism with its cheap MIC who are by far the worlds leading death killing machine that churns out weapons for the highest bidder.................. the soviet jewish union....bar none!
Norweger
18th December 2015, 10:28 AM
The Jews will stop at nothing to get their will.
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