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singular_me
18th December 2015, 06:46 AM
another serious eye opener, to keep fighting among ourselves will surely resolve that...

as much as the coltan war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in0A8SFL3XM
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Sep 25, 2011

How are the west's 'recycled' TVs and computers ending up in a toxic dump in Ghana? Dateline investigates the trade in e-waste which is poisoning a once picturesque part of Africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_ZttK3PuM



May 16, 2013
A powerful documentary about the dumping of toxic computer wastes on developing nations, specifically Guiyu, China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDSWGV3jGek



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejB6NDIwdXo


UN study: by 2017 33% more global electronic waste choking Third World nations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgUWV2jPEyA

mick silver
18th December 2015, 07:18 AM
they have a place in this country that mines every thing now for the metal plus the stuff I see in your videos are scape yards ever been to one . plus I india the mine every thing they can get there , ships tvs you name it , can you see the guys taking stuff a part in the vid you posted I beta you didn't watch

mick silver
18th December 2015, 07:26 AM
its also cheaper to mine for gold an silver this way , just a part read on .Obsolete computers contain significant amounts of recoverable materials including metals from wires and circuit boards, glass from monitors, and plastics from casings (Fig. 1). For example, 1 metric ton (t) of electronic scrap from personal computers (PC’s) contains more gold (http://www.eoearth.org/article/Gold) than that recovered from 17 t of gold ore. In 1998, the amount of gold recovered from electronic scrap in the United States was equivalent to that recovered from more than 2 million metric tons (Mt) of gold ore and waste. http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/151411/

Ponce
18th December 2015, 10:32 AM
Like I sais long ago......The dumsters of today will be the mines of tomorrow.......

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ShortJohnSilver
18th December 2015, 04:47 PM
There are problems with disposing of TVs in the USA. It is now very tough to export CRT/TV (I mean the old glass tube type) out of the country. So what happens?

Company signs up to do e-waste, form a company etc.

They start taking in some e-waste, usually they charge a bit for TVs, put the TVs in a pile and sell/scrap the rest. After a while they have a big pile of TVs, but it is OK they got money for it, you can stack TVs 4 or 5 high and each skid basically makes you money - about $300 per skid if you charge $10 per TV as a disposal fee. In the meantime you just pay for the extra warehouse space which you got cheap.

Then the commodity crash happens, or there is a supply glut and your buyers are paying less; now you are at break-even.

Now the commodity price stays low, you are less than break-even because ... you have to have all this space for the TVs.

You sell everything off, except the TVs, and go out of business.

Now the landlord has anywhere from 5 tons to 1000 tons of unsellable TVs on his property. It is now HIS problem.

Supposedly there was a big e-waste recycler that went out of business, and left behind 40,000 tons of TVs. Now the landlord has to figure out how to get rid of them.

BTW, as a worst case scenario, a lead refiner would take the tubes (the other pieces outside the TV pay for themselves as there is a decent amount of copper and such on them) and melt them down: the glass would serve as flux and the lead oxide inside would get melted into the lead. But Obama's EPA shut down virtually all lead refiners in the USA. It is not worth it to ship them to China, even if you were allowed to do so.

singular_me
19th December 2015, 05:27 PM
you do not get the whole picture mick, sorry... the world is being trashed. simple. google up global food waste, another eye opener. 50% of world production rotting.

how bad does it have to become before people realize that we are ALL in deep shit ???

It is impossible to recycle at the pace we produce/consume.






they have a place in this country that mines every thing now for the metal plus the stuff I see in your videos are scape yards ever been to one . plus I india the mine every thing they can get there , ships tvs you name it , can you see the guys taking stuff a part in the vid you posted I beta you didn't watch

mick silver
19th December 2015, 05:33 PM
whole point they are Recycling now and getting better at it . there using all parts now , nd those vid you posted those guys are Recycling something youdid not see again . you don't watch are read what you post

singular_me
19th December 2015, 05:37 PM
Like I sais long ago......The dumsters of today will be the mines of tomorrow.......

V

unfortunately, this is untrue because we keep destroying the environment at record pace and ourselves by the same token