SpaceX successfully lands first stage rocket

[vacuum]

Developing...

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/679114269485436928

Here's a pic. That tube is 12 feet in diameter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWyy1DyU4AEfUad.png:large


Video:
https://youtu.be/O5bTbVbe4e4?t=2483

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B6oiLNyKKI&feature=youtu.be&t=5s

gif:
https://www.gfycat.com/WeepyCelebratedAfricanaugurbuzzard


View of the landing from helicopter:
(watch this in HD full screen mode)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ

[Glass]

They'll be able to use that technology on the moon as well.

[Cebu_4_2]

They'll be able to use that technology on the moon as well.


I never heard you mention that the moon is flat, how could the rocket get there?

[StreetsOfGold]

ONE coin = TWO sides

HELLywood on one
NASA on the other

SAME group set out to create ILLUSION and DECEIT

HELLywood financed by private funds and includes all topics
NASA cements the science FICTION part of HELLywood and is funded by YOUR "taxes"


Why is anyone here acting like this is REAL?

Are you that stupid or do you enjoy being deceived?

[JohnQPublic]

The rockets are real. Some of the goals of the space program are not (looking for dark energy and dark matter, etc.).

[vacuum]

Here's a picture of them taking it off of the landing pad, where they will place it on a boat.

You can see how big it is. That thing went up into space, launched the second stage, then came back down and landed right next to where it was launched.

https://i.imgur.com/oR47nGV.jpg



Here's a comparison of the spacex vs blue origin rocket landings. Right-click and view image to see full sized.
(updated...previous graphic was wrong)
https://i.imgur.com/Z81NgAk.png

[ximmy]

It was an awe-inspiring thing to watch... makes me want to cry.

[vacuum]

Here's an interesting fact. The minimum thrust on the engines on that rocket is greater than the weight of the rocket. In other words, the rocket can't hover with the engines turned on. It can only go upwards.

So how do they manage to land it? They allow the rocket to free fall, then turn the engines on such that the zero velocity point before it starts going up is exactly at ground level.

And it hit dead center of the target, with x, y, and z velocities all zero, and all rotations zero.

They call this maneuver a "suicide burn".

[JohnQPublic]

Here is the Blue Origin. Beat them in time, but not capability.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?86170-Blue-Origin-Beats-SpaceX-to-First-Launch-Vehicle-Landing&highlight=Spacex+falcoln

[palani]

Wait until they get the space elevator working.

Or the space escalator.

[Glass]

I never heard you mention that the moon is flat, how could the rocket get there?

good questions. Not sure how flat the moon is, but is made from cheese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0qagA4_eVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0qagA4_eVQ

Its clear from the above that NASA has never been to the moon.

But I do think this current rocketry is strange. Wondering why they think this is important. I guess these rocket things get dents in them if you let them fall to earth? And they want to re-use the rocket shell?

[vacuum]

But I do think this current rocketry is strange. Wondering why they think this is important. I guess these rocket things get dents in them if you let them fall to earth? And they want to re-use the rocket shell?

The rocket costs $16 million to build. The fuel for it only costs $200k - $300k.

By reusing the rocket, they can reduce the cost to get stuff into space by 90%. Instead of it costing $2500 per lb, it would only cost $250 per lb to get into space. A lot more things become economically viable at that point.

[ximmy]

good questions. Not sure how flat the moon is, but is made from cheese.

Its clear from the above that NASA has never been to the moon.

But I do think this current rocketry is strange. Wondering why they think this is important. I guess these rocket things get dents in them if you let them fall to earth? And they want to re-use the rocket shell?

I remember being a kid and some friends took us kids to an independent film festival... Grand Day Out was playing. Then a year later or so, we got the VHS and I watched it until the VHS disintegrated.

Building a rocket in those days was much easier...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb0ooQKbflM

[Dogman]

Sci-fi and real world are getting closer to becoming reality.

Once perfected as stated earlier will bring the cost per launch and cost per pound into orbit down.

It is a wonderful thing...!

Had a hand in a couple of amstat launches, one blew up from the French Guiana launch site back when. The arian 5 blew up carrying our piggyback sat, very spectacular.


http://www.amsat.org/

[Cebu_4_2]

good questions. Not sure how flat the moon is, but is made from cheese.


From the looks of the moon peeps it must be limburger or similar. I tried the stuff and could not handle it at all... So...

Me and a friend went to another friends garage where he was working on his car in the winter. Back then we used propane grills to heat our garages which worked quite well.

The music was loud and we appeared to be eating and enjoying the limburger and gave him a rather large chunk which he ate with no problem. He had no idea so it was all good. As he was working since we didnt like it would throw chunks into his grill, which started to smoke and eventually start fire with a black smoke residue. His garage smelled like bad fuck the entire winter LOL. You just can't get that stink out of a grill.

[monty]

You just can't get that stink out of a grill.

I've been told the same is true if some highschool kids were put it on the exhaust manifold of an unpopular teacher's car.

[Glass]

I've been told the same is true if some highschool kids were put it on the exhaust manifold of an unpopular teacher's car.

bit of shrimp juice in the grill in front of the windshield.

[vacuum]

Here's what they're planning on doing in April with the Falcon Heavy.

I think the center core may be landing on a barge in the ocean though, instead of returning to the landing site.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ca6x4QbpoM

[vacuum]

Spacex landed a rocket on a barge today.

The only problem is it fell over because one of the landing legs didn't lock properly.

Speculation is it might have been due to ice from heavy fog condensation.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRtzNRKJqqg

[Glass]

they have been trying to land on a barge for a while now. Something about using a barge is not sitting well with their project. Something keeps going wrong but the ground based landings seem to go ok.

I'm not sure the point of the barge for landing. I would have thought the barge would be good for launches, because the "launch window" might be more flexible if they can move the barge to different locations on earth for the launch. Coming back down it would seem to make more sense to be aiming for dirt.... somewhere near where the maintenance, refit and launch prep are going to happen.

[vacuum]

they have been trying to land on a barge for a while now. Something about using a barge is not sitting well with their project. Something keeps going wrong but the ground based landings seem to go ok.

They've only attempted 1 ground landing, and it worked. So far, all of the barge landing issues weren't related to the fact that it was a barge, they were just random issues that are being worked through. If they had tried a ground landing this mission, they would probably have had the same thing happen. So it's just coincidence so far, but it will be interesting to see how long it continues.

I'm not sure the point of the barge for landing. I would have thought the barge would be good for launches, because the "launch window" might be more flexible if they can move the barge to different locations on earth for the launch. Coming back down it would seem to make more sense to be aiming for dirt.... somewhere near where the maintenance, refit and launch prep are going to happen.

Exactly, dirt is the best choice. The barge is only needed if the launch window causes a ground landing to be impossible (geosynchronous orbit launches require much more fuel to be burn so going back to land might not always be possible). Also, the FAA told them they were not allowed to attempt a ground landing in previous missions due to safety concerns. They were only allowed to try the ground landing because they demonstrated repeatedly that the barge landings were very controlled (except for a few launch pad hiccups).

[Glass]

ok. I'm watching the video Serpo posted here: Nasa Space station stuff ups #1

(http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85294-Lunar-Wave-(Hologram-)-Events&p=826352&viewfull=1#post826352)I'm pondering the situation. There's clearly no evidence man went to the moon, let alone outer space. Some contend we can do 600 miles LEO but no more than that. Debatable.

I think about the evidence of the launches. Contention is: rockets go up and then arc out over the ocean and then come back down, never going to orbit. Over the ocean is for Safety reasons of course.

I'm guessing most Canaveral spectators and back in their cars and in the queue to get out of there once the thing is on it's way. Who stays around and keeps watching and if they did could they see a one or a couple thousand miles out? There are images that appear to capture the rockets going up and then back down again in an arch. Time lapse.

Then I'm thinking of some thing. It hits me. The answer to SpaceX. What is so important about it coming back down to the same place it launched from? It does away with the rockets going off to the horizon and coming back down again - hidden out of sight.

It's a mind shift. Now it is in the open. In your face. In time it will just be accepted (already accepted by many) that rockets go up and come back down to where they launched from. No one will ever consider the rocket didn't even go to space.

[palani]

No one will ever consider the rocket didn't even go to space.
I could be wrong but what they are attempting to land is just the first stage of the rocket not the whole enchilada. They don't bring the payload down on the barge.

[Glass]

yes good point. I wonder what a trajectory would look like. the craft is doing some orbits before coming back down.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/spacex-reusable-rocket-test-640x364.jpg

no

[Cebu_4_2]

Published today, not sure what's going on:

SpaceX back in delivery business with futuristic pop-up room's launch

Published April 08, 2016 Associated Press (http://www.ap.org/)


http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2016/04/08/spacex-back-in-delivery-business-with-futuristic-pop-up-rooms-launch/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-0.img.jpg/876/493/1460149591867.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
The SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket stands ready for launch at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Fla., Friday, April 8, 2016. The rocket, scheduled for launch later today, is set to deliver almost 7,000 pounds of science research, crew supplies, and hardware to the International Space Station. (AP Photo/John Raoux)

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. – SpaceX resumed station deliveries for NASA on Friday with the launch of a futuristic pop-up room, the first ever built for astronauts.

The unmanned Falcon rocket soared into into a clear afternoon sky, carrying a full load of supplies for the International Space Station as well as the cosmos' first inflatable living quarters.

Bigelow Aerospace is providing the expandable compartment, which swells to the size of a small bedroom. It's a testbed for orbiting rental property that the Nevada company hopes to launch in four years, and also for moon and Mars habitats.

The Dragon capsule and its headline-grabbing payload should reach the space station Sunday.

The 7,000 pounds of freight represent SpaceX's first station shipment in a year. A launch accident halted cargo flights last summer. SpaceX was trying to land the leftover booster on an ocean barge, something it's yet to achieve for reusability, as a way to shave launch costs.

Traffic has been heavy lately at the 260-mile-high complex. NASA's other commercial shipper, Orbital ATK, made a delivery at the end of March, then Russia just last weekend. Now, it's SpaceX's turn. The Dragon will join three cargo carriers and two crew capsules already parked there.

Besides a bevy of biological experiments — including 20 mice for a muscle study, and cabbage and lettuce plants for research as well as crew consumption — the Dragon capsule holds the pioneering pod.

The Bigelow Expandable Activity Module, or BEAM, is a 21st-century reincarnation of NASA's TransHab, which never got beyond blueprints and ground mock-ups in the 1990s. Hotel entrepreneur Robert Bigelow bought rights to TransHab, then persuaded NASA to host BEAM at the space station.

Empty except for sensors, the experimental BEAM is Bigelow's first soft-sided space structure meant for people. Astronauts will enter periodically during the two years it's at the station.

Bigelow hopes to have two station-size inflatables ready to launch around 2020 for commercial use, potentially followed by inflatable moon bases. NASA, meanwhile, envisions using inflatable habitats during 2030s Mars expeditions.

On hand for Friday's launch, accompanied by a dozen employees, Bigelow said he considers this a historic moment. The upcoming mission promises to "change the entire dynamic for human habitation," he said on the eve of launch.

"It is the future ... the next logical step in humans getting off the planet," NASA's space station program manager, Kirk Shireman, told reporters Thursday.

SpaceX's last delivery attempt, in June, ended in flames after just two minutes, doomed by a snapped strut in the oxygen tank of the upper stage. The company successfully resumed Falcon launches late last year with satellites.

Besides Falcon repairs and upgrades, SpaceX activated the Dragon's parachute system this time. That way, in case of a launch accident, the Dragon could parachute into the Atlantic and hopefully be salvaged. The Dragon is the only station cargo ship capable of returning items to Earth and thus equipped with parachutes.

NASA is anxious to get back blood and other samples collected by one-year spaceman Scott Kelly, who returned to Earth in March, as well as a defective spacesuit that cut short a spacewalk in January.

[EE_]

Published today, not sure what's going on:

SpaceX back in delivery business with futuristic pop-up room's launch

Published April 08, 2016 Associated Press (http://www.ap.org/)


http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2016/04/08/spacex-back-in-delivery-business-with-futuristic-pop-up-rooms-launch/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-0.img.jpg/876/493/1460149591867.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Nothing they are doing with this space program is for the benefit of the common man...it's quite the opposite!

[Glass]

so it is a resupply to the ISS then it's a fraud.

People have photographed it from down here. Suggesting something is up there but it is clear NASA doesn't have any astronauts on it. So it's either fake or it's being used for something that is not a domestic program of space.

That leaves only a military purpose.. or it's all fake. I give both a 50/50 probability of being correct.

[Glass]

Apparently these guys were able to land on the floating barge a few days ago. Did anyone see it?

[Serpo]

I never heard you mention that the moon is flat, how could the rocket get there?

flat moon ...hahahaha

if you include a flat earth and
space craft go flat out then they will surly get there........

[Serpo]

so it is a resupply to the ISS then it's a fraud.

People have photographed it from down here. Suggesting something is up there but it is clear NASA doesn't have any astronauts on it. So it's either fake or it's being used for something that is not a domestic program of space.

That leaves only a military purpose.. or it's all fake. I give both a 50/50 probability of being correct.

There was something on how they have been dropping lithium on everyone in America on the net today.........I guess they need it considering whats happening..............

[vacuum]

So they just launched and landed a rocket that had been previously recovered.

Incredible and historic.

Launch: https://gfycat.com/SpryFaithfulJanenschia
Stage separation: https://gfycat.com/ExemplaryComposedHamadryad
Fairing separation: https://gfycat.com/SimilarSlimyEastrussiancoursinghounds
"Video" of landing: https://gfycat.com/WatchfulBossyDavidstiger
SES-10 deploy: https://gfycat.com/MisguidedQuarrelsomeArrowcrab

Heating during reentry: https://imgur.com/q01p02s


You can see the rocket is slightly dirty and used-looking before launch:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8KeiKPVYAARQM2.jpg:orig


https://i.imgur.com/aiq9Na6.jpg

[Cebu_4_2]

You'd think they would give a brother a break and hire them to wash the thing...

[Glass]

Dirty rockets.... gotta make it look like its real.

30 of the 3rd. 33
Kennedy = 33
Launched at 3:30 PST

22 ,000 kms into space
22 = master mason

Mason = 62
$62 million mission
March 3 is 62nd day of year.

32 minutes of flight
Space-x = 32
America = 32

Space X launch makes history = 101
101 = 26th prime
mason = 26 s exception
space = 26 s exception

the nummer man (https://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com.au/2017/03/22-24-32-62-68-89-spacex-makes-history.html)

[Joshua01]

At least hire some illegal Mexicans to rinse the thing off a little and shine it up a bit....that's embarrassing!
You'd think they would give a brother a break and hire them to wash the thing...

[monty]

Space-X flights suspected to be cgi fakery. 45 minutes


http://youtu.be/12ussaG7-7E

https://youtu.be/12ussaG7-7E

[Joshua01]

Of course its fake. People will believe anything they're told these days. The people who ask questions are immediately branded as conspiracy theorists or just plain crazy. There are plenty of us in the know and have prepared for the inevitable battles to come