What a Shaman Sees in a Mental Hospital. [Archive]

Spectrism

26th December 2015, 06:11 AM

I think so too. I'm a Catholic as well. You'll see this article not tackled head on. You'll see side swipe arguments, such as Africa, and black culture, trying to dismiss it, without actually reading the article.

By their fruits you will know what kind of a tree it is. Africa is dark- not because of the color of the skins, but by the color of their minds. Most overrun by spiritists like this. Demonically controlled.

I've been called a faggot because of this website. The truth, I have nothing to do with that website at all, just thought this article was worth sharing.

Faggot? I didn't see that. I think you are severely misguided, wandering down dark ways.

You'll have religious viewpoints, such as all spirits are demons and evil.

No- not all spirits. Just those that are opposed to God. This is the expanded concept including fallen angels and evil discarnate humans.

The truth is, it goes much much deeper than that. There are 'shamans' of many religions, cultures, and people. Native American's had their own version of them. Catholic priests perform exorcisms, that's really the same thing.

Shamans act as mediums. This is far different from a true christian performing an exorcism. One wants to play with the evil things and ask them for advice. The other is at war with them.

Palani made a damn good point, same as Glass, you'll see our modern unhealthy culture allows these demons into our society, and personally, I think this is a topic that we all should be discussing. Maybe our biggest issue we need to face.

Palani is a putz pretending to know much. When put to the test, he is just a practicing putz.

I came out of Roman Catholicism and see RCs as easy prey for the evil ones. Unless you are clothed in the blood of Messiah, you are an easy target. I throw harsh words at you hoping one day you will wake up. Trusting in human flesh, pride, sense of entitlement, spiritists, witchcraft, necromancy, animal sacrifices, idol worship, channeling, and a few dozen other forms of stupidity will only get you a stupid prize. You do not want a stupid prize.

palani

26th December 2015, 06:30 AM

he is just a practicing putz.
Sometimes (frequently) your profundities are indecipherable.

A non-ironic sense is in putz "Nativity display around a Christmas tree" (1873), from Pennsylvania Dutch (German), which retains the old German sense.

Shami-Amourae

26th December 2015, 06:44 AM

With due respect Shami, I don't think you care one bit about proof of anything. The first thing you posted, was bashing niggers because Africa was the first part of this article.

Nothing, no comment at all on the content of the article. You wrote it off....as soon as you saw Africa. Proof? You don't need or want it...your mind is made up as it is.

Because I'm smart enough to know certain things are a certain way, and I'm not cucked enough to think there are exceptions, except for token ones.

Horn

26th December 2015, 07:33 AM

I've been called a faggot because of this website.

Another victim of Idahoan mental healthcare.

50. Idaho. Idaho is far and away the worst state for your mental health. It is worst in reported prevalence and worst in reported spending. How bad is Idaho? At $143 per person, it spends less than one-tenth as much per person with mental illness as do Maine, Alaska, and Pennsylvania.

http://pgionfriddo.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-ten-best-and-ten-worst-states-for.html

Spectrism

26th December 2015, 07:37 AM

Sometimes (frequently) your profundities are indecipherable.

Having trouble finding a word in a dictionary?

putz
ˈpəts,ˈpo͝ots/
North Americaninformal
noun
noun: putz; plural noun: putzes

1.
a stupid or worthless person.

2.
vulgar slang
a penis.

verb
verb: putz; 3rd person present: putzes; past tense: putzed; past participle: putzed; gerund or present participle: putzing

1.
engage in inconsequential or unproductive activity.
"too much putzing around up there would ruin them"

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1960s: Yiddish, literally ‘penis.’

palani

26th December 2015, 08:01 AM

1960s: Yiddish, literally ‘penis.’
Sorry. I don't speak yid.

I do find it interesting that you do though.

Thanks for the insight.

Spectrism

26th December 2015, 08:17 AM

Sorry. I don't speak yid.
I do find it interesting that you do though.
Thanks for the insight.

Do you speak greek or latin? Many words you use are from origins outside the English people. If you want to always play coy and pretend to be an ass, I will have to accept that at face value.

As for not speaking yiddish, I already know the only language you speak is stupid.

palani

26th December 2015, 08:24 AM

I already know the only language you speak is stupid.
Yet you are the one who moves from necessity.

Spectrism

26th December 2015, 08:36 AM

Yet you are the one who moves from necessity.

Are you that stupid? I had hints that you were a blazing fool, but you needn't confirm this.

My words were to the effect of- if needs be.... and this is twisted by your little mind to post this crap. I bet you are moved by necessity to sit on a toilet... or do you just use diapers?

Horn

26th December 2015, 08:45 AM

We live in crazy, sick society.

Going to a primitive land or taking psychedelics probably take your mind off of the crazy, and sets you into a more primal/simple/stable state.

I don't think this proves any spiritual anything though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Wrqkaa8KM

palani

26th December 2015, 08:47 AM

My words were to the effect of- if needs be
Is your mind so small that you cannot comprehend that a 'need' moves in the plane of necessity?

I bet you are moved by necessity to sit on a toilet
I have no need to search for a toilet. Nature provides. I find it strange that your toilet training did not provide for a lack of a toilet. But that could explain why you are 'full of it'.

Spectrism

26th December 2015, 09:07 AM

Is your mind so small that you cannot comprehend that a 'need' moves in the plane of necessity?

You think you are flying in planes for every practical discussion which you turn into theoretical bullshit. Your hypotenuse is tangential to the plane of brilliance which puts you into the plane stupid category.

I have no need to search for a toilet. Nature provides. I find it strange that your toilet training did not provide for a lack of a toilet. But that could explain why you are 'full of it'.

So Palani does not use toilets. This is an interesting piece of information. Now I picture an ex-pat gone native in Monrovia. Good for you. Nice to hear you got back to your monkey roots.
https://joegbaba.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/six-more-years-of-poo2.pdf

http://www.atlanticrising.org/images/galleryphotos/AT%20THE%20SHORE.jpg

singular_me

26th December 2015, 09:35 AM

satan must be speaking here... or is it occult new age... LOLOLOL

that must be why ayahuasca and iboga are now recognized as MEDICINES curing from all the fears of being

anybody thinking that we have nothing to learn from tribes are just dead wrong

we are different because we are COMPLEMENTARY, so every culture is worth it and forced assimilation is a way to eradicate what is worth in every culture.

and when digging further, we can even see that all beliefs lead to the same metaphysical ocean anyway, so why fighting?

Spectrism is the evidence of a fundamentalist mindset that is KILLING us all. The NWO loves people like him.

Another way to say this, which may make more sense to the Western mind, is that we in the West are not trained in how to deal or even taught to acknowledge the existence of psychic phenomena, the spiritual world. In fact, psychic abilities are denigrated. When energies from the spiritual world emerge in a Western psyche, that individual is completely unequipped to integrate them or even recognize what is happening. The result can be terrifying. Without the proper context for and assistance in dealing with the breakthrough from another level of reality, for all practical purposes, the person is insane. Heavy dosing with anti-psychotic drugs compounds the problem and prevents the integration that could lead to soul development and growth in the individual who has received these energies.

http://expandedconsciousness.com/2014/06/26/what-a-shaman-sees-in-a-mental-hospital/

Jewboo

26th December 2015, 09:47 AM

I'm a Catholic as well...There are 'shamans' of many religions, cultures, and people. Native American's had their own version of them. Catholic priests perform exorcisms, that's really the same thing.

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/indigenous-shaman-ceremony-15224846.jpg http://adventuresinwoowooland.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/matthew-mcconaughey-shaman.jpg

Chicks and faggots love and adore their Shaman.

:rolleyes: Shaman = Drug Dealer

singular_me

26th December 2015, 10:45 AM

book, obviously you have not yet investigated the topic far enough

the war on spiritual medicines is all good for whatever religious monopoly, which is prevents us from following our own path. Vilification is as old as mankind and still working.

Follow you own path book, I am on mine and whatever sword you use, I dont care.

Psychedelic Christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q_Ugi1_Dts

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The Psychedelic Origin of Christianity
The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross (1970) is a book by the British archaeologist John Marco Allegro. His early career focused on studying the earliest manuscripts of the Bible, the Dead Sea Scrolls. With this book, however, many say that it ruined his career, although others say it gave him the fame that he deserved.

The basic idea behind the book is that primitive religions were based on fertility rites (rituals that recreate the reproductive processes of nature either symbolically or through sex). Allegro believed that fertility cults like this used the hallucinogenic mushroom, Amanita muscaria (red mushroom with white spots). He also said that these mushrooms are at the root of many religions, including early Christianity. Christianity was essentially the product of a sex-and-mushroom cult, and the mushroom was seen as the gateway to understanding God. Through this understanding it was believed that fertility would also be promoted.

Allegro argued that the mushroom and its powers were a secret, so they had to be written down in the form of codes hidden in mythical stories. In his own words: “This is the basic origin of the stories of the New Testament. They were a literary device to spread the rites of mushroom worship to the faithful.” Jesus in the Gospels was code for the Amanita mushroom according to Allegro. All major scholars rejected Allegro's ideas, including his academic mentor. Even his publisher regretted publishing the book.

Allegro draws on some interesting evidence to support his theory. He argues that the fresco in the 13th Century chapel of Plaincourault in France clearly shows Adam and Eve next to a tree made of large Amanita muscaria mushrooms. The serpent can be seen coiling around the tree. It seems strange that this mushroom would be depicted in arguably the most famous story in the Bible.

http://www.samwoolfe.com/2013/04/the-sacred-mushroom-and-cross-by-john.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_biblianazar/biblianazar84a_04_small.jpg

palani

26th December 2015, 12:42 PM

You think you are flying in planes for every practical discussion which you turn into theoretical bullshit. Your hypotenuse is tangential to the plane of brilliance which puts you into the plane stupid category.
Has it not occurred to you that a diploma does not make one the equivalent of Einstein?

Palani does not use toilets.
Why would anyone demand the USE when the USUFRUCT is freely available?

USE, estates: In order to create a use, there must always be a good Consideration; though, when once raised, it may be passed by grant to a stranger, without consideration.

USUFRUCT, civil law. The right of enjoying a thing, the property of which is vested in another, and to draw from the same all the profit, utility and advantage which it may produce, provided it be without altering the substance of the thing.

Jewboo

26th December 2015, 01:08 PM

The Psychedelic Origin of Christianity...“This is the basic origin of the stories of the New Testament. They were a literary device to spread the rites of mushroom worship to the faithful.” Jesus in the Gospels was code for the Amanita mushroom according to Allegro...It seems strange that this mushroom would be depicted in arguably the most famous story in the Bible.

http://redicecreations.com/ul_img/22115cannabisjesus.jpg http://www.classicalvalues.com/jesuspot.jpg
https://i2.wp.com/assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/126825/christ-weed.jpg

Goldissima slandering Jesus the day after Christmas.

:rolleyes: as usual

Neuro

26th December 2015, 01:18 PM

http://redicecreations.com/ul_img/22115cannabisjesus.jpg http://www.classicalvalues.com/jesuspot.jpg
https://i2.wp.com/assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/126825/christ-weed.jpg

Goldissima slandering Jesus the day after Christmas.

:rolleyes: as usual
Bonus season!

singular_me

26th December 2015, 01:23 PM

as usual... do you imply that God allowed earth to grow plants that could kill us ???

RIGHT - they kill us when we do not understand their purposes... opium and coca are a painkillers but money (and stupid men) corrupted their pharmacology.

However psychedelics are no addictive and been used for spiritual development for millennia... just ask the native americans.

Neuro

26th December 2015, 01:31 PM

Jewboo

26th December 2015, 02:31 PM

However psychedelics are no addictive and been used for spiritual development for millennia...

http://media.giphy.com/media/9YlhdI9SSP0Qw/giphy.gif http://img.izismile.com/img/img6/20131217/1000/some_people_that_are_clearly_on_drugs_01.gif

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hVoMCN7rIBs/U9awxXvY4SI/AAAAAAABj9o/N_Q4c52G2jA/s1600/AAAAAA1385779913511.gif
You tell 'em Goldissima

Spectrism

26th December 2015, 02:39 PM

Has it not occurred to you that a diploma does not make one the equivalent of Einstein?

Has it not occurred to you that to occupy a doghouse neither makes you a dog nor the builder of the house?

Why would anyone demand the USE when the USUFRUCT is freely available?

We are talking toilets and you think of estates and real property. So, you are so destitute you don't own your own toilet. Got it. And you totally bypassed the previous discussion about needing anything. You don't need food, water or air. So, why would you need a toilet? You and goldie seem to have much in common.

mick silver

26th December 2015, 03:23 PM

None of Us are Free as Long as Some of Us are Caged (http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/24/none-of-us-are-free-as-long-as-some-of-us-are-caged/)

palani

26th December 2015, 03:28 PM

Has it not occurred to you that to occupy a doghouse neither makes you a dog nor the builder of the house?
Has it occurred to YOU that when you declare yourself a RESIDENT that you have opted for INMATE status?

We are talking toilets and you think of estates and real property.
We are talking of WORDS as SYMBOLS yet your shallow responses reflect your lack of training in this topic. Don't feel bad about this though. These symptoms are common to those whom English represent a second language.

singular_me

26th December 2015, 03:35 PM

None of Us are Free as Long as Some of Us are Caged (http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/24/none-of-us-are-free-as-long-as-some-of-us-are-caged/)

that has been my motto since a long while.... neglect suffering around you and you will suffer

free will is about that also. a true freedom lover will not tolerate slavery for any human being, regardless of IQ and race.

singular_me

26th December 2015, 03:46 PM

jews didnt create those medicinal plants - or did they?

You tell 'em Goldissima

Dogman

26th December 2015, 03:46 PM

Some members here ?

;D

Hitch

26th December 2015, 04:01 PM

I came out of Roman Catholicism and see RCs as easy prey for the evil ones. Unless you are clothed in the blood of Messiah, you are an easy target. I throw harsh words at you hoping one day you will wake up. Trusting in human flesh, pride, sense of entitlement, spiritists, witchcraft, necromancy, animal sacrifices, idol worship, channeling, and a few dozen other forms of stupidity will only get you a stupid prize. You do not want a stupid prize.

Why do you view Roman Catholics as easy prey for evil ones? Also, throw harsh words at me if you will, I don't mind at all because I respect your opinion, especially on religious matters. However, I do believe that part of waking up is opening up to the truth that God's creation extends much further than our physical existence, and our religious beliefs.

I know, believe, and embrace Jesus Christ as my savior. I am starting to realize that God created everything, including evil, and everything in between the low and higher planes of existence, that we do not see in ours. A shaman, you are right, is a medium to those planes, and all the entities that occupy them. But, does that make the shaman evil? Even if he chooses to do good with his abilities? In my opinion, no. He is able to interact with God in a different way than what religion dictates. But, it's still interacting with God's creation...since all of our existences are based upon that.

Basically, I'm am suggesting that you can be religious, and spiritual, at the same time.

Horn

26th December 2015, 04:33 PM

Don't want nobody who won't dive for dimes
Don't want no speedballs 'cause I might die trying
Throw me a line, throw me a line
'Cause there's a fat man in the bathtub with the blues
I hear you moan, I hear you moan, I hear you moan, willin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb-yB4OxGBA&index=4&list=RDtxX-kPn3h6s

singular_me

26th December 2015, 04:33 PM

I am all fine with the christ consciousness though but that's the problem with fundamentalism... only jesus can walk on waters, multiply the bread and fish, etc

when you cite other people from other cultures having real experiences, verifiable on the spot when present, then one is a new age occultist or a satan worshiper.

I spent quite some time on youtube watching the buddhist oracles 'recognized' by the dalai lama himself, they are people with extrasensory gifts going onto trance to communicate with entities... well it was well worth my time.

I can listen to gregorian chants as much as to that of buddhist monks, or whatever indigenous musics... those sounds are cosmically universal.

Why do you view Roman Catholics as easy prey for evil ones? Also, throw harsh words at me if you will, I don't mind at all because I respect your opinion, especially on religious matters. However, I do believe that part of waking up is opening up to the truth that God's creation extends much further than our physical existence, and our religious beliefs.

I know, belief, and embrace Jesus Christ as my savior. I am starting to realize that God created everything, including evil, and everything in between the low and higher planes of existence, that we do not see in ours. A shaman, you are right, is a medium to those planes, and all the entities that occupy them. But, does that make the shaman evil? Even if he chooses to do good with his abilities? In my opinion, no. He is able to interact with God in a different way than what religion dictates. But, it's still interacting with God's creation...since all of our existences are based upon that.

Basically, I'm am suggesting that you can be religious, and spiritual, at the same time.

Horn

26th December 2015, 09:03 PM

There are no separated spiritual realms which remain untapped or otherwise unexplored to be mastered by or with guru/shamanic assistance,

all that is and ever was or will be is already the case since birth.

Any shaman/guru can only reintroduce a subject to that which already was and is the case.

cheka.

26th December 2015, 10:27 PM

singular_me

27th December 2015, 04:08 AM

there is nothing new age in being interested in other cultures nor metaphysics, following ones path without fear of being condemned is the only way to decentralize the system... the situation today is the result of the herd mentalities. Jesus was an anarchist, power (any controlling structure) is the real evil.

Knowledge with a capital K is neutral, it is the intent that commands it. What was the mindset of the man who created the first rifle? for self defense or aggression? Was he evil? Evil isnt Knowledge but the mind that serves it. The day people can get this, the NWO will go away as it is the framework of any "divide and rule" scheme set into motion. All social monopolies work like this. It is the mindset to brand a certain knowledge as evil to get followers that IS causing evil to start with, so those in the know can use it for control. Then of course, and secrecy will turn this knowledge into evil thinking.

Man is only suffering from ONE thing: cosmic abandonment resulting in a fear of being (feeling of separateness from God), which the NWO uses against him to enslave him and what is by definition satanism. Satanism springs from this division and the application of its mechanisms. Divide and rule.

There is no group formula to address this fear. And because many do not get it, now judgement day is upon us. Getting rid of the NWO is about finding back one's connection with God first. This battle is metaphysical above all.

if ones really believes that I am a new ager for believing what a shaman sees in a mental hospital, one is born too late, I am afraid. one missed the boat, the middle ages and its inquisition was one's era. Back then, the also called an heretic anyone working with what is today called homeopathy (several centuries later we can see the real damages, same now with blasting shamanism). If I were one, I would start working on a time machine and go back into time.

Time to get real folks, that is precisely why we have a masonic-zionists monster issue at stake. it is a battle between fundamentalism vs secrecy.

new age was developed by the satanists -- according to the 1982 book that i posted on here today

would add today's humanism to that too

both pits for you to fall into....dug by the blood thirsty money junkie control freaks

Spectrism

27th December 2015, 07:50 AM

Why do you view Roman Catholics as easy prey for evil ones? Also, throw harsh words at me if you will, I don't mind at all because I respect your opinion, especially on religious matters. However, I do believe that part of waking up is opening up to the truth that God's creation extends much further than our physical existence, and our religious beliefs.

Catholics of the Roman church cult are blinded by their choice to align with and under the pope and his bureaucracy called the church magesterium. It is an idol separating the people from God and blocks the grace of God. Not all, but most are in this trap. Some have found escape around these shackles. So, when a cult or "new" (old) teaching comes along, they are at risk of being changed into something like singular goldissima- a completely lost empty skin. Their shackles are forged pride plated with assurance that they have power to make their own decisions and that God is a liar. They call God a liar as they embrace things contrary to the One True God.

I know, believe, and embrace Jesus Christ as my savior. I am starting to realize that God created everything, including evil, and everything in between the low and higher planes of existence, that we do not see in ours.

God did not create evil in the sense of unlawful or corrupt. He created all good and without blemish but the ability of His creation to have free choice could only be observed as evil or unlawfulness or anti-God. Love is a choices. People have the choice of placing their affections on things other than God. It is not God that makes those choice, but He gives the opportunity for them. Prisoners will say that they made a mistake. No, they made bad choices willfully. They were not mistakes- as if it happened to them accidentally. Choosing to do wrong is more than a mistake. It is not the law at fault for criminals choosing to commit crimes.

A shaman, you are right, is a medium to those planes, and all the entities that occupy them. But, does that make the shaman evil? Even if he chooses to do good with his abilities? In my opinion, no. He is able to interact with God in a different way than what religion dictates. But, it's still interacting with God's creation...since all of our existences are based upon that.

Messiah said: I am the WAY the LIFE and the TRUTH. None can come to the Father except through me.

If you think a shaman can reach God outside of Messiah, you are calling the Messiah a liar.

Lev 19:26 You shall not eat with the blood; you shall not divine, nor conjure spirits.

Lev 19:31 You shall not turn to mediums, and you shall not seek to spirit-knowers to be defiled by them; I am Jehovah your God.

Mat 10:1 And having called His twelve disciples, He gave them authority over unclean spirits, so as to cast out, and to heal every disease and every weakness of body.

Mat 12:43 But when the unclean spirit goes from a man, he goes through dry places seeking rest and does not find it.
Mat 12:44 Then he says, I will return to my house from which I came out. And coming, he finds it standing empty, swept and decorated.
Mat 12:45 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more evil than himself, and entering dwells there. And the last things of that man become worse than the first. So it will be also to this evil generation.

Mar 1:25 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Be quiet, and come out of him.
Mar 1:26 And the unclean spirit convulsing him, and crying out with a loud voice, he came out of him.
Mar 1:27 And all were astonished, so as to discuss to themselves, saying, What is this? What new teaching is this, that He commands even the unclean spirits with authority, and they obey Him?

It is not the position of one in Messiah to be subservient to the spirits, but have authority over them. They answer to the devil, but we have Messiah as Lord.

1Ti 4:1 But the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, cleaving to deceiving spirits and teachings of demons,
1Ti 4:2 in lying speakers in hypocrisy, being seared in their own conscience,

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.
1Jn 4:2 By this know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit which does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not from God; and this is the antichrist which you heard is coming, and now is already in the world.

Basically, I'm am suggesting that you can be religious, and spiritual, at the same time.

Yes, but that does not say anything. To be religious is nothing more than putting on a coat of some human organization with its rules and customs. Religion is a human construct. To be spiritual does not qualify if one is led by deceiving spirits or is spiritually-minded in the light of God's truth.

singular_me

27th December 2015, 08:13 AM

If you think a shaman can reach God outside of Messiah, you are calling the Messiah a liar.

fundamentalist distortion:
The problem with whatever dogmas is that they dismiss empiricism (experience is bad, stay on rail tracks), but living IS experience. No theory can fix this.

get ready for the biggest religion clash ever of all times

Spectrism

27th December 2015, 11:48 AM

fundamentalist distortion:
The problem with whatever dogmas is that they dismiss empiricism (experience is bad, stay on rail tracks), but living IS experience. No theory can fix this.

get ready for the biggest religion clash ever of all times

Well, then tell us about your experience with God.

cheka.

27th December 2015, 01:03 PM

at singular --- daniel estolen (sp?) was on coast to coast last night. they usually post their show on youtube

singular_me

28th December 2015, 09:33 AM

Well, then tell us about your experience with God.

good to see that agnostic neuro is giving you a thank.

born and raised catholic but at age 7 i knew something was really not matching my OWN perception when taught that I was born in sin, so I rejected the concept of salvation intuitively... I made a huge step backward and knew my path would be that of a true Knowledge Seeker... at age 12, I got this daydream that a great evil was preying on earth/humans... a psychic visionary gift I was born with, since then I always have been open to metaphysics as a whole. I also was an agnostic but with a deep burning desire to end this twilightzone within me, so I was endlessly searching for a proof.

30 years later, after 911, my vision was confirmed and by probing ALL the Knowledge available to me, I uncovered the metaphysical root of power and found God, it took me 12-15 years to map it all, realized that all the Knowledge that exists can be used for either good or evil, and that it will go either way, depending on ones perception of what is good or evil. We cannot be all knowing, and never will be. So how can dogmas really serve humanity when everybody interpret them at his own level of perceptions ???

That is where the NWO is lurking, they fully master reality and the perception matrix... and to undo this, decentralization is the only tool against any dogmas, religious and political.

Believe in the bible if you think it is good for you... but willing to impose it as a model calling for utter destruction. Same for any other monopoly religion. There arent 2 minds thinking alike. Even fundamentalists fight among themselves, and create schisms. So where does it lead us?

All we can do is to share our experiences and compare them... accept or refuse them. The path toward peace between humans.

The best thing that happened to me is to move to the USA. I have had my american dream but my perception of it is not what I thought it would have be 15 years ago... thats a win-win nonetheless.

Neuro

28th December 2015, 09:37 AM

good to see that agnostic neuro is giving you a thank.

Apparently lying isn't contrary to your beliefs.

mick silver

28th December 2015, 09:38 AM

born and raised catholic but at age 7 i knew something was not matching my OWN perception when taught that I was born in sin... I made a huge step backward and knew my path would be that of a true Knowledge Seeker... at age 12, I got this daydream that a great evil was preying on earth/humans... a psychic visionary gift, since then I always have been open to metaphysics as a whole.

Spectrism

28th December 2015, 09:43 AM

good to see that agnostic neuro is giving you a thank.

born and raised catholic but at age 7 i knew something was not matching my OWN perception when taught that I was born in sin... I made a huge step backward and knew my path would be that of a true Knowledge Seeker... at age 12, I got this daydream that a great evil was preying on earth/humans... a psychic visionary gift, since then I always have been open to metaphysics as a whole.

35 years later, after 911, my vision was confirmed and by probing ALL the Knowledge available to me, I uncovered the metaphysical root of power, it took me 7 years to map it all, realized that all the Knowledge that exists can be used for either good or evil, and that it will go either way, depending on ones perception of what is good or evil. We cannot be all knowing, and never be. So how can dogmas really serve humanity when everybody interpret them at his own level of perceptions ???

That is where the NWO is lurking, they fully master reality and the perception matrix... and to undo this, decentralization is the only tool against any dogmas, religious and political.

Believe in the bible if you think it is good for you... but willing to impose it as a model calling for utter destruction. Same for any other monopoly religion.

All we can do is share our experiences and compare them... accept or refuse them. The path toward peace between humans.

I asked you about your experience with God and you gave YOURSELF as god. And your method of power is DECENTRALIZATION being used against what I say is the path to the one true God. You are exactly opposite to me and exactly opposite to God. You claim humans as supreme and still unable to know everything, while denying the existence of God who does know everything.

You are an empty skin, given over to devils. Lost in oblivion, you find misdirection soothing and truth abrasive. You hate truth and have developed a love for lies. Easily seduced by false words, you have strengthened yourself against brokenness, which is your only hope to finding truth.

Neuro

28th December 2015, 09:47 AM

singular_me

28th December 2015, 10:02 AM

at singular --- daniel estolen (sp?) was on coast to coast last night. they usually post their show on youtube

cheka, there are two different kinds of so called new age... theosophical or not. Theosophists are demonic because they have chosen to use Knowledge as a WMD. Transhumanism right now is absolutely theosophical.

But I really do not see why, yoga which has been practiced for 1000s of years should be considered as evil for example. Masonic-zionists never were behind the Vedic teachings for example. Or even buddhism... there is a common knowledge to all religions and spiritual train of thoughts, and this is what I am seeing and love investigating.

New agers are kinda naive and this greatly helps evil prosper when blindly believing in the Law of Attraction and positive thinking (ignore the evil and it will go away, do not even discuss about it). That is the only REAL and dangerous issue that I see with new age. But investigating other cultures and spiritual concepts while keeping an open mind is not evil, sorry. All the cultural insights that exists are complementary... yet we are taught that what is foreign to us is evil.

Evil this way comes

singular_me

28th December 2015, 10:12 AM

I asked you about your experience with God and you gave YOURSELF as god. And your method of power is DECENTRALIZATION being used against what I say is the path to the one true God. You are exactly opposite to me and exactly opposite to God. You claim humans as supreme and still unable to know everything, while denying the existence of God who does know everything.

You are an empty skin, given over to devils. Lost in oblivion, you find misdirection soothing and truth abrasive. You hate truth and have developed a love for lies. Easily seduced by false words, you have strengthened yourself against brokenness, which is your only hope to finding truth.

you read me according to your fundamentalist view... we ALL are gifted God creatures.

see how you are, because I am telling you that my OWN perceptions dont go along with "born in sin"... I do not believe in the bible as written, do acknowledge it was written by men over a 400 year time frame, although acknowledging the many truths in it.

You are free to believe what you wish but again perceptions are what they are.

That is your own perception. God IS his entire Creation... I lean toward patheism... you are a monotheist (seeing God separated from his creation)

this question is as old as mankind.

but as long as humans regards themselves separate from God, this fragmentation makes it even easier to implement the "divide and rule" mantra.

Regarding God as his entire creation is evil... demonic... laughable.

Believe in the bible but quit willing to impose it as a model

Real Natural/God Order occurs as soon as we quit trying to control outcomes... the less mass control the more Order. Thats the chaos theory... either you have chaos leading to Order ... or Destruction

This is physics applied.

Fundamentalism = utterly controlling = destructive Chaos. The Revelation will be proven correct because very few will make it.

All this because we have denied each other's experience as how we investigate and understand our relationship with God ???

Have your Judgement Day then...

singular_me

28th December 2015, 10:13 AM

I was going to write something along those lines too, but you put it very eloquently...

neuro, once line with atheism or fundamentalism... you have not found yourself yet. IMHO.

all life is Consciousness and Consciousness is God.. dig it. This is my belief and you will have to deal with it.

Neuro

28th December 2015, 10:17 AM

you read me according to your fundamentalist view... we ALL are gifted God creatures.
You don't believe in God, according to any standard, you were asked to describe your relation to God, instead you describe how you can up with your own conspiracy theory...

Horn

28th December 2015, 10:23 AM

while denying the existence of God who does know everything.

If God knew everything the world would end in an instant, as there'd be no reason for it to exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Vph3zH4z8

to claim or insist that God knows everything is denying his existence, or preying towards the end of the world.

Neuro

28th December 2015, 10:23 AM

neuro, once line with atheism and fundamentalism... you have NOT found yourself yet. IMHO
You are just a two faced liar. I have many times asserted my belief in God. And my beliefs in creation. Neither is atheism nor fundamentalism. Apparently lying isn't against your belief system. Do you say the Kol Nidre at Passover Goldie?

Jewboo

28th December 2015, 10:33 AM

... at age 12, I got this daydream that a great evil was preying on earth/humans... a psychic visionary gift I was born with...after 911, my vision was confirmed and by probing ALL the Knowledge available to me, I uncovered the metaphysical root of power and found God, it took me 12-15 years to map it all, realized that all the Knowledge that exists can be used for either good or evil, and that it will go either way, depending on ones perception of what is good or evil.

https://40.media.tumblr.com/710f1c45b7aa20f331a235f586b72bd0/tumblr_nz5l61G02S1v0ysseo1_500.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b7/27/c7/b727c7b8a7ab53cd3ab5c1d2723ce11f.gif
Tell us what DRUGS you ingested along the way Goldissima

:rolleyes:

singular_me

28th December 2015, 10:42 AM

yes, the gift of premonition does exist and heavily documented and does not require any drugs... I was born with ;D

But only Christ can be a psychic, since he knew he would end up dying.

pick on one thing because you cannot attack the rest... you are so cheap intellectually, book. You are no challenge to me. You are a lost cause.

Horn

28th December 2015, 10:46 AM

God, according to any standard

Standardized or institutionalized definitions of God aren't needed for any particular reason but for sewing and reaping the Spectro flock,

why entertain them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11s_x5FhmiM

singular_me

28th December 2015, 10:52 AM

You don't believe in God, according to any standard, you were asked to describe your relation to God, instead you describe how you can up with your own conspiracy theory...

I was asked to describe my relationship with God and told HOW I found Him.

nope, you do not read me well either, my experience with God is my own perception as I believe that God IS his entire creation. This is the fundamental concept you and I disagree on.

Anybody believing in patheism (in its broad concept, not the deities) will recognize god-like qualities or traits in ALL humans and consider each other SACRED. Thats the way I regard humanity.

Unlike, Sepctism or Book or you I do not see anybody as a SUBHUMAN. Yet you tell me that I call myself God... look at your faulty logic to start with.

anybody regarding anybody as a subhuman (darwinism, competition, I am right because I am smarter, have a better DNA) IS separated from God.

because God is his entire creation, we ALL are complementary. Our differences are qualities as they are designed to teach us respect and empathy, Love vs Fear the only game that is in the Universe.

Keep calling me evil or demonic... wowow... laughable

get a grip Neuro and find yourself

One thing is certain, as long as people think like you and co, the NWO is here to stay and transhumansism will set into motion depopulation.

Jewboo

28th December 2015, 11:05 AM

... you are so cheap intellectually, book. You are no challenge to me. You are a lost cause.

http://pastorcherylmalloy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/My-Book-Signing-At-The-Family-Christian-Book-Store-on-Gulf-To-Ba-058.jpg

Um...so when is your new book gonna hit the book stores Goldissima?

:rolleyes: you work at a gas station

mick silver

28th December 2015, 11:10 AM

someone getting http://triphackr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/free-wifi-hotel-dusseldorf.png

Neuro

28th December 2015, 11:16 AM

nope, you do not read me well either, my experience with God is my own perception as I believe that God IS his entire creation. This is the fundamental concept you and I disagree on.

Anybody believing in patheism will recognize god-like qualities or traits in ALL humans and consider each other SACRED. Thats the way I regard humanity.

Unlike, Sepctism or Book or you I do not see anybody as a SUBHUMAN. Yet you tell me that I call myself God... look at your faulty logic to start with.

anybody regarding anybody as a subhuman (darwinism, competition, I am right because I am smarter, have a better DNA) IS separated from God.

because God is his entire creation, we ALL are completementary

Keep calling me evil or demonic... wowow... laughable

get a grip Neuro and find yourself
My logic may seem faulty to someone who doesn't possess logic to begin with. Evolution is obvious to anyone who can put their brain to it, you can't and that makes you think your beliefs is superior to anyone who doesn't agree with you. I do believe all life is sacred, but God thinks that those life forms who can use their brains to have a discussion beyond their ego, stomachs and flight and fight are especially pleasing to him. Those are special to him, he can present his entire creation to them. Why do you feel the need to consistently tell lies, like I am an agnostic Goldie? I am not. But you are a liar.

singular_me

28th December 2015, 11:34 AM

darwin for humans = separation from God

and quit calling me a liar for this stance.

Your stance is going along with however attack me for my perceptions.

I like the bible for the so many truths in it... but wont deal with the man made flaws in it.

Man isnt born in sin.. how can one be sacred when born in sin? it is a paradox many have to sort out. I grew out of it since age 7.

I call you an agnostic because you are like a windmill. I will never give thanks to somebody who I know I fundamentally disagree with when the topic is at stake.

But as long as goldie is the target, I am happy?

My logic may seem faulty to someone who doesn't possess logic to begin with. Evolution is obvious to anyone who can put their brain to it, you can't and that makes you think your beliefs is superior to anyone who doesn't agree with you. I do believe all life is sacred, but God thinks that those life forms who can use their brains to have a discussion beyond their ego, stomachs and flight and fight are especially pleasing to him. Those are special to him, he can present his entire creation to them. Why do you feel the need to consistently tell lies, like I am an agnostic Goldie? I am not. But you are a liar.

Horn

28th December 2015, 11:39 AM

They beg of you singular, remain a Uriah Heep of humbleness,

Become them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEBW5AEHTSA

Neuro

28th December 2015, 11:41 AM

darwin for humans = separation from God

end of debate...
Not at all, you are just a fundamentalist Darwin hater, who are not capable of having a rational debate! God uses evolution as his primary tool to create thinking man, someone he could discuss with! I have asked you repeatedly how humans came to be, so far nothing, apart from it wasn't evolution (followed by the obligatory 'end of debate').

Horn

28th December 2015, 11:45 AM

God uses evolution as his primary tool to create thinking man, someone he could discuss with!

A real Dr. Doolittle!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOvlKgoeP4s

Spectrism

28th December 2015, 11:46 AM

But I really do not see why, yoga which has been practiced for 1000s of years should be considered as evil for example. Masonic-zionists never were behind the Vedic teachings for example. Or even buddhism... there is a common knowledge to all religions and spiritual train of thoughts, and this is what I am seeing and love investigating.

The spirit side of yoga is demonic. Age of practice does not cleanse it. The devil existed before mankind. Age did not help him get better.

New agers are kinda naive
You sure are.

and this greatly helps evil prosper when blindly believing

And this is you.

in the Law of Attraction and positive thinking (ignore the evil and it will go away, do not even discuss about it). That is the only REAL and dangerous issue that I see with new age. But investigating other cultures and spiritual concepts while keeping an open mind is not evil, sorry. All the cultural insights that exists are complementary... yet we are taught that what is foreign to us is evil.

You are defenseless against evil. Let's reword what you said: Investigating other people and their characters is not evil and we should have open homes to all so all can freely come and go.

Evil this way comes

By your invitation and attraction. You lose.

you read me according to your fundamentalist view... we ALL are gifted God creatures.

Gifted by WHOM? A gift needs to have a giver. If there is no personal God, then there is no Giver and there is no gift. You prove yourself a liar in one sentence.

And, what is wrong with fundamentalism? Fundamentals are important. They are the sure building blocks set on a sure foundation. You must like faultymentalism.

see how you are, because I am telling you that my OWN perceptions dont go along with "born in sin"

And you cannot even honestly look yourself in the mirror. You even lie to yourself.

That is your own perception. God IS his entire Creation...
This is a complete logic flaw. You are too unintelligent to even see how stupid you are.

I lean toward patheism... you are a monotheist (seeing God separated from his creation)

The first time I wrote it off as typing error. Now I see you don't even know the word you use to describe yourself. The word is PANTHEISM.

but as long as humans regards themselves separate from God, this fragmentation makes it even easier to implement the "divide and rule" mantra.
Regarding God as his entire creation is evil... demonic... laughable.

If God is his entire creation, then who is doing the dividing? Again you are your own fool.

Believe in the bible but quit willing to impose it as a model

The bible is truth. Its truths are undeniable. There is no better model, practice or object of faith than that of Truth. The bible of today is not the complete canon of God and it has translational errors. But the content of scripture in it makes it extremely valuable.

Real Natural/God Order occurs as soon as we quit trying to control outcomes... the less mass control the more Order. Thats the chaos theory... either you have chaos leading to Order ... or Destruction

The world is totally against biblical principles and that leads to destruction. you think corruption comes from the bible and those who are fundamentalist christians. You really should go live in one of those enlightened countries that does not have christianity.

This is physics applied.

You don't know squat about physics.

Fundamentalism = utterly controlling = destructive Chaos. The Revelation will be proven correct because very few will make it.

We have been a nation of christian principles, now fading fast. Those principles have unfortunately allowed airheads like you the freedom to spout crap and the devils to corrupt the good institutions of the land. It won't be long before you see the horrible stupidity you have embraced. Many will suffer because of this.

All this because we have denied each other's experience as how we investigate and understand our relationship with God ???

You have no relationship with God. You have no experience of a relationship with God. You pretend you do by calling all of creation god. So anyone who bumps their ass on the road knows god by your definition. Oh, I felt a raindrop. I know god. (sarc)

If God knew everything the world would end in an instant, as there'd be no reason for it to exist.

to claim or insist that God knows everything is denying his existence, or preying towards the end of the world.

How do you know this?

I was asked to describe my relationship with God and told HOW I found Him.

No you didn't. You told us how you didn't find HIM. You deny His existence and pretend He is everything- pantheistically. You don't have a relationship with a rock, do you? Do you have a relationship with trees?

nope, you do not read me well either, my experience with God is my own perception as I believe that God IS his entire creation. This is the fundamental concept you and I disagree on.

You can believe whatever you want. It does not make it right to believe it. Truth stands independent of beliefs. But for you to believe in something self-contradictory is plain stupid.

Anybody believing in patheism will recognize god-like qualities or traits in ALL humans and consider each other SACRED. Thats the way I regard humanity.

You go to an art museum. You see 10 paintings. You insist the paintings are the artist.

Unlike, Sepctism or Book or you I do not see anybody as a SUBHUMAN. Yet you tell me that I call myself God... look at your faulty logic to start with.

Sub-human? Not even sure what you mean by human. I see primates of various forms. The worst are those demon-possessed savages who have no consciences.

anybody regarding anybody as a subhuman (darwinism, competition, I am right because I am smarter, have a better DNA) IS separated from God.

If god is all creation, how could anyone ever be seaparated from god?

because God is his entire creation, we ALL are completementary

No! Any part separated from God would be impossible! You lack logic.

Keep calling me evil or demonic... wowow... laughable

I think you are likely demon possessed, but surely stupid and confused beyond reason.

It is funny to see you blame others on NWO and transhumanism when you are the supporter. You are a liar and bumbling fool. I am always surprised to see how proud you are in standing in stupidity.

singular_me

28th December 2015, 12:17 PM

yes any thoughts that is not inspired from the bible *IS* evil, you made that pretty clear. But so would think islam, hinduism and buddhism. Have all you judgement day and have fun... while I will be somewhere in the andes of peru.

The problem with you spectrism is that you are *ignorant* of physics (and all those agreeing with you) again: the least we try to control outcomes, the more Order... Chaos is Randomness, which Of God. Surrender and Serendipity/God will be there to assist you. This is because of the theory of Dualism and Correspondence, self-embedded natural Laws. God made sure that we'd learn respect and compassion for all his Creation. But there is a demonic elite that will do whatever it can for us to never get this by war, enslavement, etc... we all have been had in the end.

So have your destructive Chaos, aka Judgement Day, God will make sure we all get the lesson after that, at least the survivors.

Yoga demonic ?? why because of the chakras theory perhaps.. because of course you do not know, are completely clueless that each chakra ' is located where there is a major endocrine gland? So in short, because you are scientifically flawed or so blinded by your stance.

Since acupuncture or acupressure, are both based on the body's energy grid itself, so where does the new age really start in the end? Because of fundamentalism (against eastern medicines) both alternative treatments have been delayed by centuries. Fundamentalism is a scourge.

the kundalini has been proven scientifically also, that the spine is a major electric circuit. Humans have 33 vertebrates. There are 33 degree in masonry... and Christ died at age 33... HELLO!!!!! ;D Indeed how could the age of Christ when he died be related to this major electric circuit ???

Luckily all faiths have more similarities than differences, but we are only taught their differences, and indoctrinated with them (divide and rule). Keep faith and try to investigate why so many numbers in the bible, you will not win this conversation with me spec. Why the number 144 in the revelation, which is a fibonacci sequence number ?? You are all against kaballah but the whole bible is filled with it, new testament included. I can deconstruct all your anti new age stance every quickly, but best is that you discover this by yourself.

Monotheism teaches separateness from God... thats why man is born in sin and needs salvation. That is the major tenet of christianity and now you refute it?

Now to be honest christianity will bring a lot of good to many people but not the majority. you on the contrary do not have the flexibility to regard others the way I do.

Dogmas are not in favor of any collective/masses. Turn on your TV.. why? because every dogma needs "divide and rule" to stay on life support.

so you are here... and I am there...

The spirit side of yoga is demonic. Age of practice does not cleanse it. The devil existed before mankind. Age did not help him get better.
If god is all creation, how could anyone ever be seaparated from god?

No! Any part separated from God would be impossible! You lack logic.

I think you are likely demon possessed, but surely stupid and confused beyond reason.

It is funny to see you blame others on NWO and transhumanism when you are the supporter. You are a liar and bumbling fool. I am always surprised to see how proud you are in standing in stupidity.

Horn

28th December 2015, 12:23 PM

If god is all creation, how could anyone ever be separated from god?

No! Any part separated from God would be impossible! You lack logic.

Its quite easy to be separated from God and still remain a part in his creation, there is no "lack of logic" in realizing that.

You're raving and drooling, seeking to compromise someone's path. Quoting every sentence of a post with an individual and wrong type response is evidence of it. No path to God is the wrong one or any one the correct one.

Neuro

28th December 2015, 12:25 PM

yes anything thoughts that is not inspired from the bible IS evil

the problem with you spectrism is that you are IGNORANT of physics (and all those agreeing with you)

the less we try to control outcomes, the more Order... Chaos is Randomness, which Of God. Surrender and Serendipity will be there to assist you.

Have you destructive Chaos, aka Judgement Day
He just demonstrated how your different opinions and statements contradicts each other... And this is the essence of your belief!

Horn

28th December 2015, 12:35 PM

He just demonstrated how your different opinions and statements contradicts each other... And this is the essence of your belief!

And a Biblical standard, "God" contradicts himself throughout. Its no fault of realization, but party to. Unless anyone statement or opinion can be faulted on its own. If singular contradicts herself, its of no great importance or significance to me, the forum or God for that matter..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhJKCW2_w3k

Neuro

28th December 2015, 12:42 PM

And a Biblical standard, "God" contradicts himself throughout. Its no fault of realization, but party to. Unless anyone statement or opinion can be faulted on its own. If singular contradicts herself, its of no great importance or significance to me, the forum or God for that matter..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhJKCW2_w3k
It is of no consequence to anyone but Goldie and those who believe her lies...

Spectrism

28th December 2015, 12:57 PM

And a Biblical standard, "God" contradicts himself throughout.
Show me some examples of where YOU have seen this. YOU, not some atheist moron you don't know.

Its no fault of realization, but party to. Unless anyone statement or opinion can be faulted on its own. If singular contradicts herself, its of no great importance or significance to me, the forum or God for that matter..

It should be significant as it undermines her credibility. If someone cannot get a story straight within one sentence without self-contradictory stupidity, why post anything at all?

Its quite easy to be separated from God and still remain a part in his creation, there is no "lack of logic" in realizing that.

Your sentence denies what Singular Goldissima wrote. God is NOT a "he", but an it as in everything. There was no "he" to create what was not already there. So we run into another logic problem that not only is there not a creator, but we cannot account for something as always having been, yet we need desperately (in the case of atheists and pantheists) to show evolution and autogenesis.

You're raving and drooling, seeking to compromise someone's path.

That is like saying I am flushing clean water into the sewer in an attempt to contaminate it.

Quoting every sentence of a post with an individual and wrong type response is evidence of it.
Just as with you, I will slice up every line and project it onto the screen for examination. What is wrong with attention to detail?

No path to God is the wrong one or any one the correct one.
So in your mindless world, everything is not good and not bad. Everyone does just fine and nobody is hurt. Life is a screen set of cardboard figures and all meals are made of soybeans. Traveling to work can be east or west if you prefer and arrival time is when you get there- not late, not early. Charting a course on the open seas is pointless since all ways are acceptable.

singular_me

28th December 2015, 01:23 PM

He just demonstrated how your different opinions and statements contradicts each other... And this is the essence of your belief!

it is not "my" belief but which going along with seeking infinite awareness. You are stuck and regard my flexibility as contradiction because of that. A flexible mind is a strength when understanding that polar opposites bring about doom. But like I said, you are still stuck. In 10 years from now you will still blame jews/blacks/chinese/pink/red, etc. I am far beyond such judgements, and that is why we clash all the time. For you those who are not part of a clique/clan but stand for themselves, are suspicious and must be marginalized. I am fine where I am.

sorry, I didnt start the attack... as usual every time I want to share, I am attacked. I call up on spectrism attacking hitch for saying that one can be religious, a christian, and spiritual (open to other perceptions), and I agree with Hitch' statement.

the fundamentalist stormed in. Fundamentalism is just the major cause of evil in the world. They are the religious marxists.

The world needs more people like Hitch (in all faiths). My mother was a staunch catholic but 10-15 years before she died, she turned to the early christian teachings (before vatican) and even though I came from another angle, we always had good discussions.

Moreover, I know that the christ consciouness is which of God, Love is all that is. And evil happens because we dont grasp that as a whole. Now the heavy price tag for this failure is coming

Horn

28th December 2015, 01:27 PM

So in your mindless world, everything is not good and not bad. Everyone does just fine and nobody is hurt. Life is a screen set of cardboard figures and all meals are made of soybeans. Traveling to work can be east or west if you prefer and arrival time is when you get there- not late, not early. Charting a course on the open seas is pointless since all ways are acceptable.

Your raving and drooling projections persist, Spectro.

All paths to God lead to God was the non-contradictory intent. Charting a course on the open seas are preferable to me.

less than credible notions or statements of Transhumanism or NWO are easily defeated on their own merit without some mystical david and goliath story and sensationalized example biblical story texts.

Horn

28th December 2015, 01:38 PM

It is of no consequence to anyone but Goldie and those who believe she is lying...

Corrected so that you don't separate yourself from your own creation, Neuro.

Neuro

28th December 2015, 01:47 PM

Corrected so that you don't separate yourself from your own creation, Neuro.
And what may that be, in your mind?

Horn

28th December 2015, 02:13 PM

And what may that be, in your mind?

You're too awfully consequential to be an evolutionist. lol!

singular_me

28th December 2015, 02:26 PM

SPECTRISM: You can believe whatever you want. It does not make it right to believe it. Truth stands independent of beliefs. But for you to believe in something self-contradictory is plain stupid.

truth stands by itself: let's see.... one doesnt believe in the bible, so one MUST be evil... luckily that there are many non christians on earth so the Bible can stand by Itself. Nice contradiction to say the least.

my stance is that faith is a personal experience and like anything else cannot be coerced. I call this a Truth. In my perception the same hold true for atheism, which I consider sad but a strong sense of morality can make up for this. Furthermore, if probing morality deep enough, we'll find ourselves on the other side of the fence dealing with metaphysics: what it means being a human and what is the purpose of life. Atheism isnt out of the woods just yet.

so you are there.... and I am here.

Neuro

28th December 2015, 02:27 PM

You're too awfully consequential to be an evolutionist. lol!

I don't subscribe to any -isms. I see a Jew behind most of them

Jewboo

28th December 2015, 02:54 PM

I don't subscribe to any -isms. I see a Jew behind most of them

You think Hornstein just happened by?

:D

singular_me

28th December 2015, 03:29 PM

SPECTRISM: Sub-human? Not even sure what you mean by human. I see primates of various forms. The worst are those demon-possessed savages who have no consciences.

From the moment one considers oneself superior to others, others are systematically subhumans. When one is more knowledgeable, the Cosmic Law is to share one's insights. In the beginning was the word says the bible.

But dont expect that to happen when casting others as demons 24/7. There is only one evil preying out there and which is the obstruction of knowledge which causes blindness and mind control. Masonic zionism or not, eventually self-responsibility will have to take over, and which means that self-responsibility will forever be paramount.

people feel powerless in the face of what happens because they intuitively know that by taking responsibility chaos will ensue. So they hold their little bubble of perception dear... meanwhile gloom and doom gets closer.

Surrendering doesnt mean to surrender to the NWO but let go all the monopolies that we have created for ourselves and holding the control pyramid together. Didnt Christ say, leave everything behind and follow me? That is what He meant. Human Ego stands in the way but also holds the key to end most sufferings. Perfection doesnt exist in our physical reality anyway.

There is no "us vs the NWO", but one by one standing for oneself with the Light within (regardless of how one perceives this Light, all is fractal of the Same One). Thats the real meaning of the Revelation, the lifting of the veil.

Fundamentalism will never achieve anything but a marxist confrontation. Exactly what the NWO expects to kill us all. Well, we will be killing each others for their sake.

Horn

28th December 2015, 04:13 PM

You think Hornstein just happened by?

:D

And now we have eclipsed into the truly mental area of creation,

where those who spend their entire existence in goyim towards a constant devotional worship thru Darwinist fittest elevations and evolution in consequentialism of their jewish betters in collective shamanism.

or Jewbooism

singular_me

28th December 2015, 04:44 PM

I had to read this 3 times horn... have always wondered where would be book without his fetish words.

I am right because you are a nazi... eerr, I am right because you are a goyim... eerrr, I am right because you are different.... same old cliches. And now we all stand on the edge of the precipice as a result.

will the end look like this?
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbonedjello.com%2Fblogger10%2Finto-maw.gif&f=1

Jewboo

28th December 2015, 04:56 PM

Do you say the Kol Nidre at Passover Goldie?

http://tuzico.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Tuzico-Logo-Flag.png https://arianasiresearch.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/tutsim.png?w=660&h=525

Goldissima wants us to ignore her mom's Tutsi Tribe jew roots...lol.

:rolleyes:

Horn

28th December 2015, 05:10 PM

will the end look like this?
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbonedjello.com%2Fblogger10%2Finto-maw.gif&f=1

Not for Neuro, Book or Spectro their plan is to marry into Austrian aristocracy

like Julie Andrews in the Sound of Music before the Nazis showup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fH2FOn1V5g

Hitch

28th December 2015, 07:13 PM

God did not create evil in the sense of unlawful or corrupt. He created all good and without blemish but the ability of His creation to have free choice could only be observed as evil or unlawfulness or anti-God. Love is a choices. People have the choice of placing their affections on things other than God. It is not God that makes those choice, but He gives the opportunity for them. Prisoners will say that they made a mistake. No, they made bad choices willfully. They were not mistakes- as if it happened to them accidentally. Choosing to do wrong is more than a mistake. It is not the law at fault for criminals choosing to commit crimes.

We can choose to love and worship who we may, be it God, Satan, etc. This is where faith comes in, that is our choice, but faith in itself means believing in something that we know is the truth...yet, we don't see that truth apparent. We have faith, because we know it's the truth, yet it is that very faith that holds us on that path in life of choices, as you say. Following the bible, yet what's being said, can't be proven.

Enter spiritualism. Sometimes that's not a choice. I won't go into all my experiences, but imagine that you see a light fixture in your home turning on and off on it's own. You actually see the switch move, by itself. It doesn't matter what you tell your mind, you see that happening, and that's realism. That's when it hits home that there's a lot we don't know about.

I guess I'm saying there's a separation of faith, and realism. Both are 'truisms', so to speak, but one is based upon religion, and the other sees beyond the rules of religion and God's word, and is a picture, a cast net, so to speak, of what that big picture is.

So, in regards to the Shaman, I have to be open-minded and think there's something real there. There is demons that possess people, and perhaps this is a growing trend, due to the insanity that happens in our world. Stories in the news, that we think "you can't make this shit up". Well, if a shaman can act like a medium, and see whats happening from another realm, who am I to judge that?

I think God is a forgiving one. If you go through this gift of life we've been given, and try to do a little good, not harm others, he understands that. Regardless, of religious background.

singular_me

28th December 2015, 07:24 PM

Not at all, you are just a fundamentalist Darwin hater, who are not capable of having a rational debate! God uses evolution as his primary tool to create thinking man, someone he could discuss with! I have asked you repeatedly how humans came to be, so far nothing, apart from it wasn't evolution (followed by the obligatory 'end of debate').

The purpose of Creation is to mirror Itself through sentient beings as witnesses. Creation Itself is an act of Love. So the duty of any being is to learn about it and manifest it. Competition is subverting this rapport. When we look at the world, sounds like we have a major issue on our hands. Why? Because competition breeds fear.

As long as man wasnt capable to destroy his own environment, it was not obvious and people took it for granted. But now we all see where this dumb competition led the entire planet. People didnt see a thing because of they have been trained (indoctrinated) to accept that the most competitive behavior is rewarded. Today most understand that corporations are evil entities but didnt stand up 100 years ago because they are clueless about the purpose of Creation itself (which is clearly explained by Jesus by the way)

This dilemma is not rational (evolution) but metaphysical (a greater picture).

Neuro

29th December 2015, 02:48 AM

The purpose of Creation is to mirror Itself through sentient beings as witnesses. Creation Itself is an act of Love. So the duty of any being is to learn about it and manifest it. Competition is subverting this rapport. When we look at the world, sounds like we have a major issue on our hands. Why? Because competition breeds fear.

As long as man wasnt capable to destroy his own environment, it was not obvious and people took it for granted. But now we all see where this dumb competition led the entire planet. People didnt see a thing because of they have been trained (indoctrinated) to accept that the most competitive behavior is rewarded. Today most understand that corporations are evil entities but didnt stand up 100 years ago because they are clueless about the purpose of Creation itself (which is clearly explained by Jesus by the way)

This dilemma is not rational (evolution) but metaphysical (a greater picture).
You see evolution as competition, I believe it is only a small part of it, most of it is probably ability to change to a changing environment, iow what God throws in our way. Humans lately have been great in playing god (though I don't believe in AGW as proposed the last 30 years), in changing the environment artificially, but these environments are fragile, a solar storm, large meteor impact, next ice age, super volcano, will evolve humanity like nothing else. Cro Magnon came to be through the bottle neck of last Ice age, only the strongest and the smartest survived in Eurasia. The Holocene has been a waste of time in terms of evolution, probably best described as a devolution in a human biological sense.

It is important to see though that if we collectively (rather a small part of humanity) decided to wipe us off the face of this planet, God would be able to create something better than us in a hundred or so Million years, so for God we are perhaps not that big of a deal, he can create something in his likeness again, if need be. My bet though is she will change the environment to the point only the best of us survives.

Still you haven't proposed an alternative theory as to where humans come from...

singular_me

29th December 2015, 05:58 AM

When fundamentalism aligns itself with anti-free speech? The Great Inquisitor Torquemada is back.

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Parents Call Police to Report Teens for Distributing a Banned Book – Cops Show Up.... The award-winning novel, entitled The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-time Indian, was banned from schools last year after parents became outraged over the book’s alleged ‘anti-Christian’ and ‘sexual’ content.
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/12/parents-call-police-to-report-teens-for-distributing-a-banned-book-cops-show-up.html

"It's hard to imagine that anyone who has read Alexie's book in its entirety would try to have it banned. Some of the main character's frank comments – about masturbation, questioning God – make adults uncomfortable. But we can't hide things from young people, 16-year-olds in this case, because they might be uncomfortable to think or talk about," said the organisation's spokesperson Acacia O'Connor.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/apr/08/sherman-alexie-schools-ban-idaho-diary-part-time-indian-anti-christian

singular_me

29th December 2015, 06:55 AM

You have an issue understanding that the more knowledge we have the more empathic we have to become, and which means that empathy has always been the real name of the game. It is the fundamental message of the new testament.

also, since transhumanism is more and more regarded as ET (malevolent) technology, the elongated skulls still unexplained findings, no satisfying modern explanations as how pyramids were built yet, etc, etc.... and considering that the bible is paradoxical about the topic, the word "evolution" may need a serious revision. The sumerian tablets also translate this, and many other ancient mythologies as well, in the Sanskrit Texts too for example but which describes "them" as soul harvesters. If genetic manipulation appears unpreventable as a stage of any sentient beings' evolution, it merely means that it has happened countless of times. The only question is morality because if I am sure that it is not God's intent that we resort to murder/competition to further Knowledge. The good vs evil all boils down this very moral dilemma which is the only game in town in this entire Universe since Knowledge is unstoppable. Murder/competition is demonic in essence for any sentient beings... but since it is what mankind has gone through for millennia... so we have a HUGE issue that cannot be resolved without understanding the Principle Of Creation: Love. Most people have no idea how **dire** the REAL situation is.

"Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth,” (Gen. 1:26, NASB).

"Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever--," (Gen. 3:22, NASB).

“Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech,” (Gen. 11:7, NASB).

"Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?” Then I said, “Here am I. Send me!” (Isaiah 6:8, NASB)

You see evolution as competition, I believe it is only a small part of it, most of it is probably ability to change to a changing environment, iow what God throws in our way. Humans lately have been great in playing god (though I don't believe in AGW as proposed the last 30 years), in changing the environment artificially, but these environments are fragile, a solar storm, large meteor impact, next ice age, super volcano, will evolve humanity like nothing else. Cro Magnon came to be through the bottle neck of last Ice age, only the strongest and the smartest survived in Eurasia. The Holocene has been a waste of time in terms of evolution, probably best described as a devolution in a human biological sense.

It is important to see though that if we collectively (rather a small part of humanity) decided to wipe us off the face of this planet, God would be able to create something better than us in a hundred or so Million years, so for God we are perhaps not that big of a deal, he can create something in his likeness again, if need be. My bet though is she will change the environment to the point only the best of us survives.

Still you haven't proposed an alternative theory as to where humans come from...

Neuro

29th December 2015, 07:12 AM

When fundamentalism aligns itself with anti-free speech? The Great Inquisitor Torquemada is back.

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Apparently many people don't understand what the word banned means. This book was taken off the schools reading list, for whatever reason, nothing else. To me this just smells of a major publicity stunt, probably arranged by the publisher or an agent of the publisher. Just look at the result, no book has probably not been getting this much readers in this age group and others than this one.

Spanish Inquisition was a horrible thing, if you were a Jew, that honestly had converted to Christianity, the cryptos controlled it, making sure only true conversos were persecuted, and giving all Jews something to point fingers at how horrible Christians are, like Goldie frequently does... In reality it was the exact polar opposite of what we were lead to believe: Jews were persecuting Christians.

Good essay on the subject by Henry Makow:
http://www.henrymakow.com/marranos_--_the_original_crypt.html

You just continue to stack lies upon lies Goldie!

Spectrism

29th December 2015, 07:31 AM

Goldissima/ singular is completely delusional. Anyone can read this thread and see what the score is.... well, anyone but Horn who also is wandering in a confused astral plane. You can see that there is no reasoning with these types. They fear the christians because christianity has an anchor in truth. They want no such anchor. For them, freedom is the ability to choose stupidity, evil and pride. What they fail to see is that such freedom comes from God and is allowed by God's people. Yet, they worship the devil who will in due time snap their chains in to show them he has no love or truth.

singular_me

29th December 2015, 07:36 AM

there is a lot more than our little 3D reality and malevolent transhumanism PROVES it.

even in the face of your own upcoming termination and which of your family/nation/civilization, you call others delusional.

but cannot see the delusion on your end. AI is a mere 10 years ahead, do you get this? But I digress its already there.

eventually you will blame God for knowledge being unstoppable

Goldissima/ singular is completely delusional. Anyone can read this thread and see what the score is.... well, anyone but Horn who also is wandering in a confused astral plane. You can see that there is no reasoning with these types. They fear the christians because christianity has an anchor in truth. They want no such anchor. For them, freedom is the ability to choose stupidity, evil and pride. What they fail to see is that such freedom comes from God and is allowed by God's people. Yet, they worship the devil who will in due time snap their chains in to show them he has no love or truth.

singular_me

29th December 2015, 07:39 AM

henry makow is a fundamentalist too, he is right and wrong at times. I see his point though but the buck stops there as I think that "it is all about masonism/zionism" can go either ways, as much as it is true, it is also is a distraction from what is really going on with transhumanism. Remaining balanced about the issue is essential.

what you dont get Neuro is that this book background is the evidence that there is no place to hide anymore. The end result is that the cops showed up because they were asked so for a book. And that should be our ultimate concern. Real cops should agree that intervention is wrong, publicity stun or not.

I dont care about the content nor why it was removed from the shelve.

Apparently many people don't understand what the word banned means. This book was taken off the schools reading list, for whatever reason, nothing else. To me this just smells of a major publicity stunt, probably arranged by the publisher or an agent of the publisher. Just look at the result, no book has probably not been getting this much readers in this age group and others than this one.

Spanish Inquisition was a horrible thing, if you were a Jew, that honestly had converted to Christianity, the cryptos controlled it, making sure only true conversos were persecuted, and giving all Jews something to point fingers at how horrible Christians are, like Goldie frequently does... In reality it was the exact polar opposite of what we were lead to believe: Jews were persecuting Christians.

Good essay on the subject by Henry Makow:
http://www.henrymakow.com/marranos_--_the_original_crypt.html

You just continue to stack lies upon lies Goldie!

Horn

29th December 2015, 08:05 AM

Anyone can read this thread and see what the score is.... For them, freedom is the ability to choose stupidity, evil and pride. What they fail to see is that such freedom comes from God and is allowed by God's people.

I must be God's people from that Christian logic, thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zyv6YHR_UE

Neuro

29th December 2015, 09:17 AM

henry makow is a fundamentalist too, he is right and wrong at times. I see his point though but the buck stops there as I think that "it is all about masonism/zionism" can go either ways, as much as it is true, it is also is a distraction from what is really going on with transhumanism. Remaining balanced about the issue is essential.

what you dont get Neuro is that this book background is the evidence that there is no place to hide anymore. The end result is that the cops showed up because they were asked so for a book. And that should be our ultimate concern. Real cops should agree that intervention is wrong, publicity stun or not.

I dont care about the content nor why it was removed from the shelve.
The cops may have showed up because they were told by the publisher agent that someone was distributing child porn, while claiming to be a parent. The only thing we know is that this book got a massive audience and promotion, after it was taken off the reading list of the school. Who benefits?

As for Torquemada the inquisitor, either he was a marrano Jew himself, that mainly persecuted Jews who converted to Christianity honestly, or he wasn't, doesn't really matter if Makow is a fundamentalist or not. I have seen you bring up the inquisition many times, did you really look it up? Or is it just a thing you throw out to make a point? I think it was either an honest attempt at getting rid of traitors and the fifth wheel in Spain. Or more likely the attempt was hijacked by Marranos and the purpose was to eke out the "traitors" among themselves...

Spectrism

29th December 2015, 10:37 AM

The purpose of Creation is to mirror Itself through sentient beings as witnesses.

You mock the bible which includes true wisdom and spout this crap as if you are some higher witness throughout history. You cannot even get your current life straight. You look for easy answers, unable to do any heavy lifting beyond simple platitudes.

Creation Itself is an act of Love.
Act by whom?

So the duty of any being is to learn about it and manifest it. Competition is subverting this rapport. When we look at the world, sounds like we have a major issue on our hands. Why? Because competition breeds fear.

So you endorse communism. You want all to be equal and share equally. You are not my equal. I don't fear competition. If I fail, I either improve or move on. Failure is part of learning and growing. EVERYTHING in nature competes. Nature shows us that the strong, the wary, the careful and courageous, the inventive, the smarter, the more resilient- WINS. The absence of competition is slavery. You endorse slavery.

As long as man wasnt capable to destroy his own environment, it was not obvious and people took it for granted. But now we all see where this dumb competition led the entire planet. People didnt see a thing because of they have been trained (indoctrinated) to accept that the most competitive behavior is rewarded.

You want poor performance or no performance to be rewarded. You want free stuff- like the rest of your free shit army family. And you want it forced on everyone to have to submit to your communistic view of society.

Today most understand that corporations are evil entities but didnt stand up 100 years ago because they are clueless about the purpose of Creation itself (which is clearly explained by Jesus by the way)

First, a corporation is not evil. It is the people running the corporation that make up the spirit of that entity. Corporations are formed for the purpose described by their charter. They typically are not designed to give you free shit.
And what would you know about Jesus? Come on... really? You dare invoke things that you are completely against.

This dilemma is not rational (evolution) but metaphysical (a greater picture).
And that is the only place you have a hope of making sense: in places irrational.

Horn

29th December 2015, 10:39 AM

Amish enjoy unexpected boom in numbers

High birthrates and decline in defections spur growth

A combination of traditionally high birthrates and falling defection rates among adults — more than 4 in 5 people raised in Amish (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/amish/) homes now opt to stay within the community — has led demographers to predict that the number of Amish (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/amish/) communities in the United States will double over the next 40 years.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/9/amish-enjoy-unexpected-boom-in-numbers/?page=all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-nPQQWIf3c

Resistance is futile.

singular_me

29th December 2015, 11:12 AM

get your judgement day spectrism, that is all what you need to get that Love is everything there is and forever will be.

Fear is a mental construct regulated by evil or demons, but casting non strictly bible believers as demonic 24/7 exposes your own fear.

what does straight mean? By your standards? No thanks.

Fundamentalism is spiritual collectivism, coercing everybody into the same train of thoughts invoking God's wrath. Exactly what the elites have been doing for centuries long. There are so many ways to 'imagine and experience the Love of God (respect for life).

In the Greater Scheme, anything that is not voluntary is doomed to fail and leads to enslavement. 4000 years of much of the same. Cant you see this ???

Build yourself a time machine and go back to the middle ages. But maybe mankind is still stuck into the middle ages after all.

Corporation not evil? In the animal kingdom, being part of a pack means survival, for humans it just is the opposite because they are supposed to be able to understand a grand design. As technology gets more powerful by the day and with the 3D printing, who will need them when everybody can build stuff from his own home? Where does competition fit in all this? I want poor performance? Not at all... but for sure you want people to continue to work with little motivation or no passion at all. Today, 80% of population go work and hate it, additionally their jobs will no longer exist in 10 years or so from now. What poor performance ?

Any action that is the result of self-love benefits a greater good. More knowledge increases self-determination. Both trends are exponential. That is the curse and blessing of Knowledge in a nutshell. So yes any kind of monopoly is lethal. And no religion will save us from what is being around the corner... but each of us, one at the time, understanding that humanity has been dead wrong for millennia, that we got it backward.

You mock the bible which includes true wisdom and spout this crap as if you are some higher witness throughout history. You cannot even get your current life straight. You look for easy answers, unable to do any heavy lifting beyond simple platitudes.

Act by whom?

So you endorse communism. You want all to be equal and share equally. You are not my equal. I don't fear competition. If I fail, I either improve or move on. Failure is part of learning and growing. EVERYTHING in nature competes. Nature shows us that the strong, the wary, the careful and courageous, the inventive, the smarter, the more resilient- WINS. The absence of competition is slavery. You endorse slavery.

You want poor performance or no performance to be rewarded. You want free stuff- like the rest of your free shit army family. And you want it forced on everyone to have to submit to your communistic view of society.

First, a corporation is not evil. It is the people running the corporation that make up the spirit of that entity. Corporations are formed for the purpose described by their charter. They typically are not designed to give you free shit.
And what would you know about Jesus? Come on... really? You dare invoke things that you are completely against.

And that is the only place you have a hope of making sense: in places irrational.

Horn

29th December 2015, 11:32 AM

First, a corporation is not evil. It is the people running the corporation that make up the spirit of that entity.

A merging of spirits under contract of men to form some untenable/anonymous "spirit entity" doesn't sound too "good" imo. With regards to a spiritual perspective. Natural capitalistic or communes aside.

I do believe corporations are in dire need of reformation under the law, such that their members are held directly responsible for unhinged collusion. If they were from the get go they would not have become "too big to fail" in global monopolies. Its not too very communistic to have level playing field created by the .gov referee and there is no benefit from letting greed run roughshot over a nation in the long run.

So long as .gov is only truly a referee and not hand in hand part of a military industrial complex. a republic can work if people are informed how they do. Communes themselves wouldn't even want anything to do with trying to bring them down or replacing them.

singular_me

29th December 2015, 11:33 AM

actually I watched some documentary about the amish the other day and it was quite interesting. Unlike the mormons they dont seem to be interested in conquering the world and this is their strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-nPQQWIf3c

Resistance is futile.

Horn

29th December 2015, 12:09 PM

actually I watched some documentary about the amish the other day and it was quite interesting. Unlike the mormons they dont seem to be interested in conquering the world and this is their strength.

Well i certainly hope so for your sake, cause you are the oracle in that clip. lol!

singular_me

29th December 2015, 12:13 PM

Well i certainly hope so for your sake, cause you are the oracle in that clip. lol!

I couldnt live by their standards, having my mind frozen in time and space :(

but as long as they dont seek to take over the world, they may thrive.

Neuro

29th December 2015, 12:26 PM

You still haven't answered where humans come from Goldie, you rejected evolution, so where did we come from, how were we created?

singular_me

29th December 2015, 12:58 PM

You still haven't answered where humans come from Goldie, you rejected evolution, so where did we come from, how were we created?

I did... malevolent transhumanism is about to reshuffle the origins of man. which is the take of Michael Tellinger and others... we are a slave species to start with. The sumerian tablets also go along with this premise.

But we could break free

Neuro

29th December 2015, 01:30 PM

I did... malevolent transhumanism is about to reshuffle the origins of man. which is the take of Michael Tellinger and others... we are a slave species to start with. The sumerian tablets also go along with this premise.

But we could break free
Why don't you answer a simple question? What is the origin of humanity?

monty

29th December 2015, 01:41 PM

Back on point!
The shaman probably sees in a mental hospital is a hospital directed by a quasi-shaman with a phd pushing big pharma synthetic drugs.

Horn

29th December 2015, 01:45 PM

It is of no consequence to anyone but Goldie and Neuro.

singular_me

29th December 2015, 01:59 PM

Why don't you answer a simple question? What is the origin of humanity?

humanity as we know it has been re-ingeneered and they are still at it again.

It shouldnt be hard to swallow when it is right in our faces. Did you listen to big shot transhumanist robert duncan? If not look for the thread.

Neuro

29th December 2015, 02:23 PM

humanity as we know it has been re-ingeneered and they are still at it again.

It shouldnt be hard to swallow when it is right in our faces. Did you listen to big shot transhumanist robert duncan? If not look for the thread.
Who are "they" that re-engineered us? God? And how?

Horn

29th December 2015, 03:08 PM

Back on point!
The shaman probably sees in a mental hospital is a hospital directed by a quasi-shaman with a phd pushing big pharma sythetic drugs.

Almost the same as a Sunday morning Evangelical event.

Jewboo

29th December 2015, 04:30 PM

Goldissima/ singular is completely delusional. Anyone can read this thread and see what the score is.... well, anyone but Horn who also is wandering in a confused astral plane.

https://i.imgur.com/xFkTnNw.jpg

Horn needs to improve the emotional quality of his shitposting in threads like this.

:rolleyes:

Horn

29th December 2015, 06:08 PM

https://i.imgur.com/xFkTnNw.jpg

Horn needs to improve the emotional quality of his shitposting in threads like this.

:rolleyes:

Quit using me as your mirror, jewboolicious

singular_me

29th December 2015, 06:49 PM

Why don't you answer a simple question? What is the origin of humanity?

either your question is sneaky or plz elaborate. Because it is obvious that we do not translate the word "origin" the same way

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thanks for the reminder book: spectrism really makes me laugh calling me delusional because he cannot make sense of the threat lying dead ahead and right in his/our face(s).

freedom = stretch it and have empathy or die

Horn

29th December 2015, 10:01 PM

As a summary and consolation,

When you die and you find out you were wrong about the origins of humanity and or God

it won't be possible to die all over again from mistaken grief. {**}

Neuro

30th December 2015, 02:45 AM

either your question is sneaky or plz elaborate. Because it is obvious that we do not translate the word "origin" the same way

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You are a blatantly dishonest debater, with no intention of bringing clarity to the discussion or your position. Distraction is the name of your game. I am not going to waste time explaining to you what commonly used English words mean. You know very well what 'origin' means. This is just in the face obfuscation, just like what your pal Horn consistently engages in. Go and fuck yourselves!

Respectfully.

singular_me

30th December 2015, 03:43 AM

no you are a dishonest, asking me the same question 3 times, and I gave you the answer... 3 times. No distraction but choosing to believe different data than it all started with amoeba 100s of 1000 or millions of years ago. I dont believe in the missing link anymore, dont believe the mainstream explanation of junk DNA nor which of Rh- anymore, etc...

we have been lied to from A to Z and it is time to wake up because it is not going to end well. We have less than 10 years to figure out why only to stop competing among ourselves can bring "their" house of cards down.

You are a blatantly dishonest debater, with no intention of bringing clarity to the discussion or your position. Distraction is the name of your game. I am not going to waste time explaining to you what commonly used English words mean. You know very well what 'origin' means. This is just in the face obfuscation, just like what your pal Horn consistently engages in. Go and fuck yourselves!

Respectfully.

singular_me

30th December 2015, 03:49 AM

I believe in reincarnation ;) The whole universe is a recycling machine, the soul never dies.

And to go back to the OP, shamanism helps understand this. There are various clinical studies now being done about medicinal plants healing the psyches and wellness centers or retreats are today proliferating. Many people begin to understand that the unconscious and the spirit world are related. This OP is an excellent read.

FROM OP:
Another way to say this, which may make more sense to the Western mind, is that we in the West are not trained in how to deal or even taught to acknowledge the existence of psychic phenomena, the spiritual world. In fact, psychic abilities are denigrated. When energies from the spiritual world emerge in a Western psyche, that individual is completely unequipped to integrate them or even recognize what is happening.

We will never find a way out this divide and rule as long as we do not expand our minds, which is why they are harvesting our souls and paraziting societies. The real challenge is spiritual and taking place within, we are governed by the hidden world, and "they" have full mastery of it but have chosen to serve Fear. This war is pervasive throughout the Universe, regardless of the level of social evolution and spiritual plane. Free will and empathy are the only way to keep this evil checkmate.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

As a summary and consolation,

When you die and you find out you were wrong about the origins of humanity and or God

it won't be possible to die all over again from mistaken grief. {**}

Neuro

30th December 2015, 03:59 AM

no you are a dishonest, asking me the same question 3 times, and I gave you the answer... 3 times. No distraction but choosing to believe different data than it all started with amoeba 100s of 1000 or millions of years ago. I dont believe in the missing link anymore, dont believe the mainstream explanation of junk DNA nor which of Rh- anymore, etc...

we have been lied to from A to Z and it is time to wake up because it is not going to end well. We have less than 10 years to figure out why only to stop competing among ourselves can bring "their" house of cards down.

This is your reply:
humanity as we know it has been re-ingeneered and they are still at it again.

It shouldnt be hard to swallow when it is right in our faces. Did you listen to big shot transhumanist robert duncan? If not look for the thread.

Repeating my follow up question rephrased... Who are "they" that re-engineered us? It doesn't sound like you believe god made us! If we are not made in the image of God, what then?

singular_me

30th December 2015, 05:14 AM

First of all God is the Prime Creator of everything and is his entire creation.

but Knowledge being unstoppable the temptation to imitate him is great. Genetic manipulation is unavoidable therefore, but again it is all about the mind behind it, doing it without consent and with a dark intent as we see today.

We cannot become gods because unlike the Prime Creator, we have the choice between good and evil due to our physical reality or astral plane. We cannot attain (and never will) the level of His Consciousness.

To understand all this it took me more or less 5 years. But in a nutshell, the only choice we have is being co-creators with God or serve a death cult depending on the choice we will make between Love or Fear.

Technology isnt the problem but our choice as how to use it. And clearly the death cult is about to win. In the big picture, this scenario is the challenge of every civilization that exists, even beyond our solar system.

The sumarian Tablets explain why the Anunaki went through a major dilemma but then decided to go ahead with the re-engineering the human race as a slave species. Michael Tellinger has compelling lectures about it and in the face of the transhumanist threat, it becomes clearer by the day.

This is your reply:

Repeating my follow up question rephrased... Who are "they" that re-engineered us? It doesn't sound like you believe god made us! If we are not made in the image of God, what then?

Neuro

30th December 2015, 06:00 AM

First of all God is the Prime Creator of everything and is his entire creation.

but Knowledge being unstoppable the temptation to imitate him is great. Genetic manipulation is unavoidable therefore, but again it is all about the mind behind it, doing it without consent and with a dark intent as we see today.

We cannot become gods because unlike the Prime Creator, we have the choice between good and evil due to our physical reality or astral plane. We cannot attain (and never will) the level of His Consciousness.

To understand all this it took me more or less 5 years. But in a nutshell, the only choice we have is being co-creators with God or serve a death cult depending on the choice we will make between Love or Fear.

Technology isnt the problem but our choice as how to use it. And clearly the death cult is about to win. In the big picture, this scenario is the challenge of every civilization that exists, even beyond our solar system.

The sumarian Tablets explains why the Anunaki went through a major dilemma but then decided to go ahead with the re-engineering the human race as a slave species. Michael Tellinger has compelling lectures about it and in the face of the transhumanist threat, it becomes clearer by the day.
According to people who has deciphered the Sumerian tablets the idea that the anunaki descended from the sky in flying saucers is pure fabrication...
http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/anunnaki/

singular_me

30th December 2015, 06:40 AM

sure... then deal with death cult then... you have less than 10 years to connect all the dots and how they all connect with the nefarious metaphysics of transhumanism. What those debunkers fail to do, so they cannot be correct. At the page you found, their arguments are just based on a few 'selected' translations. You also are against any pov saying that the pyramids are older than what mainstream academia says. No surprise you found this.

scholars still fight over the use of "US" in the old testament, it is up to each of us to chose its meaning based on what is happening right now. Debunkers of the "US" abound out there. But why is the bible spreading confusion about it? simple: more divide and rule.

I dont expect you to grasp in a few minutes what took me 5 years of investigation. Mayans too speak of an external intervention and hinduism also.

we are in such a deep shit because of the inability to link past, present and future. And the evidence is that people become mute when told about transhumanism, because it causes an abrupt end/collapse to/of any perceptions of theirs. Linear thinking is simply crashing. The proof we have been lied to from A to Z about our origins.

like I said, the clock is ticking. I just hope that some will start their own investigation with an open mind.

According to people who has deciphered the Sumerian tablets the idea that the anunaki descended from the sky in flying saucers is pure fabrication...
http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/anunnaki/

Spectrism

30th December 2015, 06:52 AM

In the psych ward, we talk with the delusional. Sometimes it is entertaining but usually it is just futile.

First of all God is the Prime Creator of everything and is his entire creation.

So there is a personal God or there isn't. Which is it? If He is nothing more than His creation, then after He created He ceased to exist as a personal God.

but Knowledge being unstoppable the temptation to imitate him is great.
Imitating the One True God is not bad as long as you are of His Spirit. He made mankind in His image to imitate Him and reflect His light. It is the pride of self and the lust for power that is the temptation grasped by the devil who considered himself equal with God. So the first law breaker we learn about is the devil who tried to play your stupid game of consider creation equal with the Creator. YOU, Goldissima/SingualrStupidity, are doing the same thing the devil did.

And the devil cast out of heaven from his role there looked to mankind created in the image of God and hated them. He told them the same lie which you now spout- that you can be like God through knowledge. Your feeble attempts at divine knowledge through Rosicrucianism, new age religions and mind games have shown you to be an empty skin, a pawn of the devil and a deceiver.

Genetic manipulation is unavoidable therefore, but again it is all about the mind behind it, doing it without consent and with a dark intent as we see today.

I see in your words the repeating of what others said. You feed on lies and regurgitate them as if you have something profound to say. Unavoidable? That is like saying that the existence of cars is unavoidable. You say nothing pretending to reveal great things.

We cannot become gods because unlike the Prime Creator,
A personal God or pantheism? You cannot have it both ways. Haven't figured out how to spin that one eh?

we have the choice between good and evil due to our physical reality or astral plane. We cannot attain (and never will) the level of His Consciousness.

You have been reading and listening to lies from the devil and those liars speak of a christ consciousness. This is the game you are playing. It is bullshit. There is no christ consciousness. There is Christ Lordship, Christ Salvation, Christ Sacrifice, Christ followers. This is Messiah- the anointed One. You are told you can be like Him and through spiritism join into the commune of freed minds. All lies. You cannot attain anything of value. The only value in life is what Messiah has done for us. Then, and only then, after being washed in His blood can we be used of His Spirit and have His Spirit dwell in us.

To understand all this it took me more or less 5 years. But in a nutshell, the only choice we have is being co-creators with God or serve a death cult depending on the choice we will make between Love or Fear.

After 5 years you are still in a nutshell. Do you know what grows inside of nutshells?

Technology isnt the problem but our choice as how to use it. And clearly the death cult is about to win. In the big picture, this scenario is the challenge of every civilization that exists, even beyond our solar system.

What is the "death cult"? You have used that term a few times now. Define it.

The sumarian Tablets explain why the Anunaki went through a major dilemma but then decided to go ahead with the re-engineering the human race as a slave species. Michael Tellinger has compelling lectures about it and in the face of the transhumanist threat, it becomes clearer by the day.

So now we have the aliens. You are an empty bag of skin looking for all sorts of crap to fill yourself.

Santa

30th December 2015, 06:57 AM

sure... then deal with death cult then... you have less than 10 years to connect all the dots and how they all connect with the nefarious metaphysics of transhumanism. What those debunkers fail to do.

I dont expect you to grasp what took me 5 years or investigation

we are in such a deep shit

Hi Goldie, I'm curious...when you say "less than 10 years" are you referring to Ray Kurzweil's AI singularity event or something similar?

Neuro

30th December 2015, 07:18 AM

sure... then deal with death cult then... you have less than 10 years to connect all the dots and how they all connect with the nefarious metaphysics of transhumanism. What those debunkers fail to do, so they cannot be correct. You also are against any pov saying that the pyramids are older than what mainstream academia says.

scholars still fight over the use of "US" in the old testament, it is up to each of us to chose its meaning based on what is happening right now. Debunkers of the "US" abound out there. But why is the bible spreading confusion about it? simple: more divide and rule.

I dont expect you to grasp in a few minutes what took me 5 years or investigation. Mayans too speak of an external intervention and hinduism also.

we are in such a deep shit
I prefer to trust those that actually have deciphered the Sumerian tablets, your position requires the assumption that the translators were liars, working for a "death cult". Sorry you spent 5 years in the wrong rabbit hole. It is still very interesting though that you think Anunnaki genetically engineered us to be slaves. I think God created us to be free. You have a very dark mindset!

singular_me

30th December 2015, 08:06 AM

It is your choice but remember that many scholars have chosen to interpret the 'US' in the genesis as a singular. Yet you call the other interpretation "dark". You are all pro-competition but do not have any solutions regarding the advances of technology that will eradicate most jobs, and when I call up for passion to develop what we really thrive for to replace competition as the solution (doing what we Love doing instead of chasing money like cavemen), you cant make sense of it.

For freedom to win over, the love vs fear mechanisms must be fully understood. Or all what we'll get is more slavery and/or mass extermination. Thats the ultimate bottom line.

The human soul is so fragmented by this divide and rule, than arguing in favor of empathy is the new evil. We have less than 10 years to get it.

that is why Jesus ended up crucified. Love (all its derived motions) was rejected. Love is the end of the Ego and that is how the death cult gets us all, keeping the latter inflated. The Ego is very weak and needs to be reassured 24/7, hence competitive... while Selflessness is the Absolute Force of Creation.

sure, I spent 5 years in the wrong rabbit hole. :D

But it is all good.

I prefer to trust those that actually have deciphered the Sumerian tablets, your position requires the assumption that the translators were liars, working for a "death cult". Sorry you spent 5 years in the wrong rabbit hole. It is still very interesting though that you think Anunnaki genetically engineered us to be slaves. I think God created us to be free. You have a very dark mindset!

Neuro

30th December 2015, 08:14 AM

Horn

30th December 2015, 08:24 AM

I prefer to trust those that actually have deciphered the Sumerian tablets, your position requires the assumption that the translators were liars, working for a "death cult". Sorry you spent 5 years in the wrong rabbit hole. It is still very interesting though that you think Anunnaki genetically engineered us to be slaves. I think God created us to be free. You have a very dark mindset!

See there Singular, Agent Smith and his duplicates just smashed your Annukai cookie plate all over the wall,

and that was even after an order was placed for them!

I know, i know is o.k. they just don't dig icing on their cookies, its insane!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-nPQQWIf3c

mick silver

30th December 2015, 08:27 AM

dam neuro you just hit the nail head , I have always wonder the same thing , dam
Your fear-compassion meme sounds very similar to Soros'
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-28/nervous-george-soros-lashes-out-donald-trump-he-wants-you-be-afraid

Do you work for his Open Society?

Horn

30th December 2015, 08:46 AM

Comparing Soros who latches onto a Correct position to maintain his agenda and defeat a particular candidate,

and Singular who maintains the position as a directive. Recoiling in fear from a firstly created ISIS enemy will only feed Hell's flames on Earth.

Soros very image and actions eek fear out of every orifice and pour has duplicated members into his matrix.

singular_me

30th December 2015, 08:57 AM

you are sooooo narrow minded, the compassion I am talking of cannot be commanded nor coerced, it has to be voluntary through a deep understanding of the real issues. In this battle, we all are alone... there is no us vs them but one vs one's Ego.

again, you never read me well, so stay stuck in your divide and rule, neuro, You will never get that the NWO is fully aware of the stakes (material and spiritual) and is focused on turning around all the tables possible, so they can get our consent. There lies the extreme evil that sustains the right vs left and at the core of lethal collectivism.

It is control that turns empathy into a MWD.

Same Knowledge, two different approaches, two different outcomes. All defined by the mindset. The NWO has resorted to such tactics to death since ever... to the point that there is no place to hide anymore. That doesnt negate the premise of empathy at all.

Intuitively, people will listen to their hearts because they are connected to a greater consciousness embedded in the fabric of the Universe. But since they do not have the knowledge will fall prey to any controlling and deceptive structures speaking in the name of peace.

This brings us back to the OP and the metaphysical value and origins of Intuition with a capital I.

Your fear-compassion meme sounds very similar to Soros'
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-28/nervous-george-soros-lashes-out-donald-trump-he-wants-you-be-afraid

Do you work for his Open Society?

Neuro

30th December 2015, 09:06 AM

Hitch

30th December 2015, 09:06 AM

You are told you can be like Him and through spiritism join into the commune of freed minds. All lies. You cannot attain anything of value. The only value in life is what Messiah has done for us.

Spectrism, there's a difference between faith and knowledge. If anything, for me personally, seeking knowledge about metaphysics, spitualism, ect. has made my relationship with God and Jesus stronger. It has made my faith stronger.

This is the ignored aspect about Singular's views. You are both right, imo. Knowledge is keeping an open mind, learning, and coming up with our own beliefs on what is true or not. Our faith, however, is what is keeping us on the right path in life per God's wishes. There's a lot truths out there that don't follow our faith, but that doesn't make them any less true than the Bible, the word of God. There's lot's of truths. The Bible points us in the right direction, but that doesn't mean expanding our minds into other areas is going against his word.

singular_me

30th December 2015, 09:33 AM

you dont see that human's huge flaws are also huge qualities because you sit into a dualistic claptrap.

... we all are own teacher, control and power will always be deceptive. Either one keeps accusing whatever elites/races/cultures and this only benefits the power game status quo (more divide and rule)... or one takes full responsibility for all the evil that exists and quit fighting voluntarily while rejecting control

1st option: 101% chance of chaos
2nd option: 50-50% chance of chaos

I made my choice

the 2nd choice is the most daunting because it cannot rely on others to come true... this is freedom, the mythical Hero in action, ready to do it alone but guided by a higher self. There is no such a thing as a legion of freedom fighters or Heroes, this is a paradox. Freedom cannot be commanded.

The capital I you exhibit is different though, it comes from being brainwashed by False prophets for many years. No it's not Intuition, it is the constant suppression of any sane idea that actually makes sense, by your guru's. You sure came a long way Goldie!

Spectrism

30th December 2015, 11:01 AM

Empathy is the word being used but it is really meant to be emotionalism. SingleGoldissima cannot deal with truth or logic so she uses "empathy" as her pointy spear. It is an attempt to get you off truth and reality and into her stupid emotional mindgame. She can only win in her mindgame so that is where she keeps trying to draw the battle.

Spectrism, there's a difference between faith and knowledge. If anything, for me personally, seeking knowledge about metaphysics, spitualism, ect. has made my relationship with God and Jesus stronger. It has made my faith stronger.

In what way?

This is the ignored aspect about Singular's views. You are both right, imo. Knowledge is keeping an open mind, learning, and coming up with our own beliefs on what is true or not.

No. Knowledge is holding truth about something. Knowledge is NOT accepting anything that is unknown as truth. You play a very dangerous game by shutting off judgment of things. All things must be tested for truth. A trash can is an open mind. Look at what it collects. Consider the body and its cells. Do they let anything in that comes along?

Our faith, however, is what is keeping us on the right path in life per God's wishes.
No. Faith is what provides us strength in times of not knowing some things. It is based on the things we do know. Faith is a bridge over the unknown but its footings are based on what is clearly known and trusted. Faith does not keep us on the bridge. It is our choice to trust in the footings- the foundations of the bridge, the object of our faith.

There's a lot truths out there that don't follow our faith, but that doesn't make them any less true than the Bible, the word of God. There's lot's of truths. The Bible points us in the right direction, but that doesn't mean expanding our minds into other areas is going against his word.

The devil will tell you 1000 truths to get to you to believe one lie. An enemy will give you 10 good meals to get you to eat one poisoned meal. Those not alive in the Spirit will die from that poison or snakebite. Those in His Spirit can drink poison and not be harmed, or take up serpents and not be bitten.

Horn

30th December 2015, 11:30 AM

it is the constant suppression of any sane idea that actually makes sense, by your guru's.

ask Spectro and his Biblical guru's how sane the idea of human evolution from apes is, or better yet Spectro inform Neuro the repetition of his original sin. Since you're so obviously focused on sewing seeds of discontent there are many missing links in this evolutionary thread that can be theorized upon by mine and many others alien intervention.

Produce for me these alien biblical guru's from Nicodemus who tread upon your sane ideas, mark their abodes with lambs blood so we might call down from the heavens God's wrath upon them!

https://strangetriumph.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/blood-passover-blue.jpg

singular_me

30th December 2015, 12:58 PM

spectrism, empathy, compassion, (self)forgiveness are what the new testatment is all about... you are now very at odds with the teachings.

You have a long way to go, trust me.

the elites have always known this. This knowledge is very ancient and bronze age people didnt come up with it. Let alone cavemen.

what is clearly known?
How many theories have gone ashtray over the last 4000 years? And it is not over, get ready for the society as we know it to end... clearly known ???

Empathy is the word being used but it is really meant to be emotionalism. SingleGoldissima cannot deal with truth or logic so she uses "empathy" as her pointy spear. It is an attempt to get you off truth and reality and into her stupid emotional mindgame. She can only win in her mindgame so that is where she keeps trying to draw the battle.

No. Faith is what provides us strength in times of not knowing some things. It is based on the things we do know. Faith is a bridge over the unknown but its footings are based on what is clearly known and trusted. Faith does not keep us on the bridge. It is our choice to trust in the footings- the foundations of the bridge, the object of our faith.

vacuum

30th December 2015, 01:11 PM

If a shaman can help a mentally ill person, I'm all for it.

Neuro

30th December 2015, 01:34 PM

ask Spectro and his Biblical guru's how sane the idea of human evolution from apes is, or better yet Spectro inform Neuro the repetition of his original sin. Since you're so obviously focused on sewing seeds of discontent there are many missing links in this evolutionary thread that can be theorized upon by mine and many others alien intervention.

Produce for me these alien biblical guru's from Nicodemus who tread upon your sane ideas, mark their abodes with lambs blood so we might call down from the heavens God's wrath upon them!

It is interesting that you always have a negative opinion on others ideas, but you never present your own. Good going Horn after almost 20,000 posts! Have anudder Shekel!

Horn

30th December 2015, 01:37 PM

I've made my ideas known with regards to dna seeing gamma ray transformation.

You just choose to remain in dark mindedness, of label scutinization.

Neuro

30th December 2015, 01:40 PM

you dont see that human's huge flaws are also huge qualities because you sit into a dualistic claptrap.

... we all are own teacher, control and power will always be deceptive. Either one keeps accusing whatever elites/races/cultures and this only benefits the power game status quo (more divide and rule)... or one takes full responsibility for all the evil that exists and quit fighting voluntarily while rejecting control

1st option: 101% chance of chaos
2nd option: 50-50% chance of chaos

I made my choice

the 2nd choice is the most daunting because it cannot rely on others to come true... this is freedom, the mythical Hero in action, ready to do it alone but guided by a higher self. There is no such a thing as a legion of freedom fighters or Heroes, this is a paradox. Freedom cannot be commanded.
I see you are planning on beating artificial intelligence with complete and utter lack of logic and intelligence coupled with immense perseverance! Perhaps you have a good point there Goldie! You may actually short circuit the machines! ;D

Jewboo

30th December 2015, 01:42 PM

It is interesting that you always have a negative opinion on others ideas, but you never present your own. Good going Horn after almost 20,000 posts! Have anudder Shekel!

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/adl/images/adl-dark-side.jpg
Hornstein

:rolleyes: so obvious they pay him by the post not by the hour...lol

Horn (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3304-Horn)

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Horn

30th December 2015, 02:08 PM

If Book hadn't lost a couple handles and months due to boo-hooing over being banned you would be right there along side me.

Friggin dimwit.

Spectrism

30th December 2015, 02:44 PM

Goldie blows horn.... I mean trumpet.... about the wonderful shaman experience of one wayward soul. Horn looks up to Goldie's empathy and alien confusion as some great relevation (relevant elevation of revelation).

Tell me Horn, just which post of all your 19,837 provided the slightest value to this forum?

Goldie- just what special supernatural revelation has this or any shaman given mankind? Cures for any diseases? New technologies for power, building materials, foods?
And if aliens are raising a slave race, why haven't they harvested the population for slaves?

Horn

30th December 2015, 03:40 PM

Tell me Horn, just which post of all your 19,837 provided the slightest value to this forum?

My reply posts to you and Book probably provided the slightest value to the forum,

which contributed the most value is up to public opinion.

Horn

30th December 2015, 04:00 PM

It is interesting that you always have a negative opinion on others ideas, but you never present your own. Good going Horn after almost 20,000 posts! Have anudder Shekel!

Just to be clear I am not the person hopping negatively on others beliefs in God or spirituality in this thread, I'm defending others from your negative opinion of their beliefs by pointing out weakness in yours. Wrap your Nazi/Jew and lambsblood cerebrum around that.

Jewboo

30th December 2015, 04:08 PM

which contributed the most value is up to public opinion.

Exactly:

Horn (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3304-Horn)
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:rolleyes: less than one in ten

Neuro

30th December 2015, 04:20 PM

Just to be clear I am not the person hopping negatively on others beliefs in God or spirituality in this thread, I'm defending others from your negative opinion of their beliefs by pointing out weakness in yours. Wrap your Nazi/Jew and lambsblood cerebrum around that.
You contribute nothing. You only defend Goldies incomprehensible theology. You haven't pointed out a single weakness in my beliefs. You are nothing but a big time waster and distraction on this forum. Play another music video, shill and forum destroyer.

Wrap that around your roll of Shekels!

Horn

30th December 2015, 04:24 PM

You contribute nothing. You only defend Goldies incomprehensible theology. You haven't pointed out a single weakness in my beliefs. You are nothing but a big time waster and distraction on this forum. Play another music video, shill and forum destroyer.

Wrap that around your roll of Shekels!

I just introduced gamma rays to your evolutionists theory, yet you easily Passover it with your lambsblood sacrifice of empty Shamanism/guru threats to your convoluted and evolving whateverisms... I've also stated that a guru will only deliver to where you started and that no other realms/stages will be gifted by.

Next you will be crying out for your very own nation and forum of evolutionist apemen in typical zionist fashion.

Neuro

30th December 2015, 04:39 PM

I just introduced gamma rays to your evolutionists theory
Why?

Jewboo

30th December 2015, 04:44 PM

You contribute nothing...You are nothing but a big time waster and distraction on this forum. Play another music video, shill and forum destroyer.

Horn (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3304-Horn)
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Not one person "thanked" Hornstein for 17,909 of his 19,840 posts. Not one.

:rolleyes: 17,909 shitposts

Horn

30th December 2015, 04:44 PM

Why?

Because I love you.

Neuro

30th December 2015, 04:48 PM

Because I love you.
You contribute nothing.

Horn

30th December 2015, 04:54 PM

You contribute nothing.

Explore alien realms into God's fingers, with me Neuro follow my shamanic influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snpyCKYvvg8

Neuro

30th December 2015, 05:02 PM

Explore alien realms into God's fingers, with me Neuro follow my shamanic influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snpyCKYvvg8
Your just full of shit. It is a well known fact that ionizing radiation alters DNA. You contribute nothing!

Horn

30th December 2015, 05:06 PM

Your just full of shit. It is a well known fact that ionizing radiation alters DNA. You contribute nothing!

You're poking holes into your very own evolutionist theory, this is good.

Is there an admission to Adam and Eve in God's creationism under the firmament, yet?

Keep following me we should have you converted most hastily Agent Smith.

It feels good to contribute to the transformation in Neuro's evolution.

Neuro

30th December 2015, 05:11 PM

You're poking holes into your very own evolutionist theory, this is good.

Is there an admission to Adam and Eve in God's creationism under the firmament, yet?

Keep following me we should have you converted most hastily Agent Smith.

It feels good to contribute to the transformation of Neuro's evolution.
You're just a spammer and disruptor.

Horn

30th December 2015, 05:38 PM

You're just a spammer and disruptor.

You've turned a thread about a Shaman in a mental hospital into your own fear and loathing of Shaman or even fearing anyone else who associates to them. Like a mental patient spamming evolution theory, also setting up others with questions to deride or pour derision onto their spiritual beliefs.

I'm not spamming a fear disruption agenda, you are.

Neuro

30th December 2015, 05:58 PM

You've turned a thread about a Shaman in a mental hospital into your own fear and loathing of Shaman or even fearing anyone else who associates to them. Like a mental patient spamming evolution theory, also setting up others with questions to deride or pour derision onto their spiritual beliefs.

I'm not spamming a fear disruption agenda, you are.
You don't do anything but spamming. Surely it is incomprehensible to someone like yourself, but I have actually tried to have a fact based debate in this thread. Not that easy with passive aggressive liars like Goldie and thread disruptors like you. I haven't said a derisive word about Shamans.

Horn

30th December 2015, 08:17 PM

The capital I you exhibit is different though, it comes from being brainwashed by False prophets for many years. No it's not Intuition, it is the constant suppression of any sane idea that actually makes sense, by your guru's. You sure came a long way Goldie!

This is fear and loathing and derision for gurus/shaman (or false prophets in your eyes), whether or not your brain is so easily washed is inconsequential, the obvious overbearing capitulation and leaning towards a "Standardization of God" rendered as "sane ideas" only further proves intent. Your words, not mine.

Though the only person who is rendered is you, into disbelief devoid of Spirit itself by fear of brainwashing.

No need to thank my contribution and Goldie is correct, you are treading on fearful spiritual ground like you're walking on water, when you should remain humbled.

Neuro

31st December 2015, 02:43 AM

This is fear and loathing and derision for gurus/shaman (or false prophets in your eyes), whether or not your brain is so easily washed is inconsequential, the obvious overbearing capitulation and leaning towards a "Standardization of God" rendered as "sane ideas" only further proves intent. Your words, not mine.

Though the only person who is rendered is you, into disbelief devoid of Spirit itself by fear of brainwashing.

No need to thank my contribution and Goldie is correct, you are treading on fearful spiritual ground like you're walking on water, when you should remain humbled.

;D Goldie's internet Gurus isn't holy shamans, they are frauds and conmen (Most likely Jewish) who lead her astray, asshat. She spent 5 years in dead end rabbit holes and came up brainwashed. At GIM it was possible to have a rational reasonable discussion with her.

COME BACK GOLDIE!

monty

31st December 2015, 07:08 AM

From "Enroute to Global Occuption" Gary H. Kah

http://s19.postimg.org/c9x8rotb7/image.png

http://s19.postimg.org/mippxihcz/image.png

Horn

31st December 2015, 08:44 AM

From "Enroute to Global Occuption" Gary H. Kah

That author was obviously lead down the rabbit hole, cause NWO is already here and the Catholic Pope is postulating it. If Catholics had converted away the Pope wouldn't have near his NWO Shamanic following.

Whether or not people want a personal accountant God or not is up to their very own person, and any individuals being "led astray" from a personal type God on the whole has very little function in NWO's workings (by all my personal accounting). Plutocratic banking governments from across the globe certainly aren't going to be held accountable by the peoples personal accountant God or their pantheistic ones.

If the case is that there has been a drift away overall from proper personal judgement or the effects thereof in this life,,, leading to a turning over of personal judgement to states judgement, well than that has been in construct long before any "newage religion" and the results of state's judgement have been less than spectacular and self evident to nearly all persons I'm in touch with pantheistic or mono-accountant.

There is no inherent pervasive evil from people freely exploring their spirituality and God to disappointment or contentment, its an attached evil by the major (crippled) religions. Israel should adopt it as a charter constitutional policy.

If say their religion consists of sending (personally accounted for by God) large numbers of humans to sacrificial wars in the mideast, that is evil and of course needs to be addressed and accounted for by humanity in a deliberate way, No personally accountable God seems fit to intervene.

singular_me

1st January 2016, 01:02 PM

good find, I knew about it though.. everything is energy. to me atheism is the refusal to admit that everything is consciousness and fundamentalism, although representing the other side of the spectrum, refutes this too

here is why quantum theories are turning sciences upside down, sciences is now facing a HUGE fallacy of its own making, discarding the God equation from everything: for example looking at matter according the darwinian model, which is why medicine is only addressing symptoms, condemning people to become slave$ of big pharma. But "they" know this at the very top.

Thought travel faster than Light: http://rense.com/general33/ether.htm... why? Sure probing this will get one tagged as a new ager, but metaphysics is the foundation of everything, now so what ???

Explore alien realms into God's fingers, with me Neuro follow my shamanic influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snpyCKYvvg8

Horn

1st January 2016, 01:30 PM

checkout that redice audio in your oil thread that Pat posted

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?86880-US-oil-drillers-headed-for-imminent-financial-collapse&p=808483&viewfull=1#post808483

singular_me

1st January 2016, 01:31 PM

yes this thread could have stayed on topic if somebody hadnt started casting demons to prevent from discussing botany and its relation to the spiritual, and which has existed for mllennia.

You've turned a thread about a Shaman in a mental hospital into your own fear and loathing of Shaman or even fearing anyone else who associates to them. Like a mental patient spamming evolution theory, also setting up others with questions to deride or pour derision onto their spiritual beliefs.

I'm not spamming a fear disruption agenda, you are.

singular_me

1st January 2016, 01:40 PM

checkout that redice audio in your oil thread that Pat posted

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?86880-US-oil-drillers-headed-for-imminent-financial-collapse&p=808483&viewfull=1#post808483

sounds fantastic... But cannot download it seems, will have to wait until mon or tue

check out other links on the same page:
Relevant links
Free Energy and Free Thinking
Electric Universe: Gravity is a Myth and Does Not Exist, Electricity is the only Force
The Gravity Myth
Magnetism vs Electricity
The Electric Sun is not a nuke fusion furnace
Space News from the Electric Universe
Frank Chester and his Discovery of the Chestahedron
DB Larson: “The Case Against the Nuclear Atom”
Dewey B. Larson disputes current day atomic theory
Larson's Reciprocal System
The Manufacture and Sale of Saint Einstein by Christopher Jon Bjerknes
Plagarist of the Century: Albert Einstein with Christopher Bjerknes
Everything is the Light – Interview with Nikola Tesla
MORE

December 30, 2015
Robert Otey has spent the past 25 years doing research into alternative Cosmology. He is behind the YouTube channel, 77Gslinger, where he has close to 700 videos relating to the Electric Universe, Sacred Geometry, Cymatics, and the work of Walter Russell, Viktor Schauberger, DB Larson, Nikola Tesla and others. Otey is the author of two books, “Free Energy and Free Thinking” and “Gravity is a Myth and Does Not Exist; Electricity is the Only Force in the Universe.”

on his utube channel, look for
Phi: Signature of the Divine Architect found in the Ubiquitous Electric Vortices of Creation

singular_me

1st January 2016, 04:48 PM

checkout that redice audio in your oil thread that Pat posted

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?86880-US-oil-drillers-headed-for-imminent-financial-collapse&p=808483&viewfull=1#post808483

algebra a fraud according to him.... quantum mechanics too... hope I can find more about it on his channel. He is huge on walter russell, so he is my attention.

singular_me

3rd January 2016, 03:01 PM

shaman will be proven correct in due time, but big pharma will not like it
--------------------------

APRIL 2015
Recently, one of the most prestigious scientific journals, Nature, highlighted research conducted by a team of Brazilian from the University of São Paulo on the antidepressant effects of a single dose of ayahuasca on a group of six individuals suffering from major depression. In that study, researchers demonstrated that ayahuasca was able to alleviate symptoms of depression within hours of intake and that the antidepressant effects persisted for weeks afterward.

While that study was the first ever to clinically assess the effects of ayahuasca on patients with depression and had very promising results, the small number of volunteers (six people) only hinted at the incredible potential of the plant medicine as a treatment for depression and anxiety.

http://reset.me/study/study-single-session-of-ayahuasca-defeats-depression/
also
http://www.nature.com/news/ayahuasca-psychedelic-tested-for-depression-1.17252

Spectrism

3rd January 2016, 04:59 PM

singular_me

3rd January 2016, 05:47 PM

Singular_stupid, you can believe anything you want and even practice those beliefs so long as they don't interfere with anyone else's rights. But what you preach is rubbish. I don't attempt to change you. I just call what I see in your manure-smelling posts once in a while so it is clear not all have a stamp of approval on this keeerap.

every time I read you, it is really an incentive to not fall into your fundamentalist trap.

google up, early christianity and the mushroom

me preaching... when all forms of spirituality throughout the ages have explored the boundaries of the mind, which is why they gave birth to various teachings in the first place.

sure, somebody must have met directly with angels first to describe them. ;D

Horn

3rd January 2016, 06:16 PM

and mushrooms grow in manure, I'm getting the hang of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOVu5nsRGjU

How long can they keep us growing in the dark?

singular_me

4th January 2016, 11:55 AM

fundamentalism is a stance that will always end up accusing God/Nature of being imperfect. Fortunately God/Nature has allowed some plants to grow to heal from the fear of being and cure all addictions.

Nature brings about problems only when we cannot understand her.

God vs Law
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/01/govt-targeting-nuns-for-making-thc-free-cbd-oil-in-a-state-with-legal-medical-pot.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKH1TM6oQ-c

Spectrism

4th January 2016, 01:59 PM

fundamentalism is a stance that will always end up accusing God/Nature of being imperfect. Fortunately God/Nature has allowed some plants to grow to heal from the fear of being and cure all addictions.

Nature brings about problems only when we cannot understand her.

What in hell is that all supposed to mean? Do you just link words together randomly?

mick silver

4th January 2016, 02:13 PM

no spec but you need to go to one of her new age buds site ... https://outofthisworldx.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/harald-kautz-vella-freewill-and-the-fields-of-consciousness-we-have-created-for-ourselves-cannot-be-dissolved-by-us-humans/
https://outofthisworldx.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/image153.jpg?w=900&h=900

singular_me

6th January 2016, 07:44 AM

What in hell is that all supposed to mean? Do you just link words together randomly?

see how you answer, I am asserting that God/Nature has provided us with plants to heal from neuroses, fear of being, and you cannot wrap your mind around because your stance defines that some plants designed by God are inherently bad.

sure, you, mick and co would agree with the cop based on your interpretation of the word God... anything that is not in the bible word by word is demonic new age. Torquemada the great inquisitor is alive and kicking

I am going to shut you up, you demonic new ager ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GLJqsqnh2o

‘A Hawaiian man has filed a lawsuit against a Honolulu police officer, and the city that employs him, after the cop savagely beat him for praying next to a sun-bathing Hawaiian monk seal on the beach.

According to Courthouse News, Jamie Kalani Rice was on Nanakuli beach on Sept. 10, 2014, when he approached a seal laying on the sand, believing it to be injured or dying. Rice then sat about ten feet away from the seal, chanting and rubbing sand between his hands and on his body as part of a ritual prayer.’

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/cop-savagely-beats-hawaiian-man-after-he-performs-native-healing-prayer-near-seal-on-the-beach/

singular_me

6th January 2016, 07:50 AM

when you have found why the revelation 21 mentions the number 144, which is a number or the fibonacci sequence, ... and why that very verse 12 appears as the ultimate number , plz let me know

and one wonders why most insightful members are gone and why this world is going to shit: squashing dissent while not even knowing enough about the subject.

instead of pointing to links, you should ponder the textbook you go by.

I could show all the so-called new age in the bible in 3 or so pages, but the best is always SELF-exploration. Claiming to have the God monopoly is arrogant... no system belief will be proven right because all belief systems have more similarities than differences. When judgement day will strike us, remember that.

no spec but you need to go to one of her new age buds site ...

Horn

6th January 2016, 09:20 AM

More Snapping Turks, Gravity type Apple Bonkers and Anti-music missiles, please!

http://orig13.deviantart.net/a6c3/f/2011/176/e/b/blue_meanies_by_drfaustusau-d3jy2mj.png

collector

6th January 2016, 12:22 PM

see how you answer, I am asserting that God/Nature has provided us with plants to heal from neuroses, fear of being, and you cannot wrap your mind around because your stance defines that some plants designed by God are inherently bad.

sure, you, mick and co would agree with the cop based on your interpretation of the word God... anything that is not in the bible word by word is demonic new age. Torquemada the great inquisitor is alive and kicking

I am going to shut you up, you demonic new ager ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GLJqsqnh2o

‘A Hawaiian man has filed a lawsuit against a Honolulu police officer, and the city that employs him, after the cop savagely beat him for praying next to a sun-bathing Hawaiian monk seal on the beach.

According to Courthouse News, Jamie Kalani Rice was on Nanakuli beach on Sept. 10, 2014, when he approached a seal laying on the sand, believing it to be injured or dying. Rice then sat about ten feet away from the seal, chanting and rubbing sand between his hands and on his body as part of a ritual prayer.’

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/cop-savagely-beats-hawaiian-man-after-he-performs-native-healing-prayer-near-seal-on-the-beach/

I hope the cop gets what he deserves - beating a guy in a bathing suit with a steel baton...just because

Spectrism

6th January 2016, 01:29 PM

see how you answer, I am asserting that God/Nature has provided us with plants to heal from neuroses, fear of being, and you cannot wrap your mind around because your stance defines that some plants designed by God are inherently bad.

You are plain dishonest and delusional. Show me where I EVER said that some plants are evil. That kind of thought would never even cross my mind. Obviously, it has yours!

You seem to need to keep saying "God/Nature" because you cannot acknowledge that there is a true personal supreme BEING that is intelligent, sentient and all powerful. Instead, you like to make in your own mind a lesser god of bouncing molecules and energy. You are NOT God.

sure, you, mick and co would agree with the cop based on your interpretation of the word God... anything that is not in the bible word by word is demonic new age. Torquemada the great inquisitor is alive and kicking

I am going to shut you up, you demonic new ager ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GLJqsqnh2o

Again, you lie and pretend you utter valuable words in your delusional state. Nobody has beaten you. I am rather surprised you are still here since there are at least a few who see how perverted your little posts are.

The cop in the video is a complete dangerous asshole who should be locked up. But that video has nothing to do with your delusional rants. It is a straw argument, making your unbeleivers out to be mean abusing cops.

Horn

6th January 2016, 05:14 PM

But what you preach is rubbish. I don't attempt to change you. I just call what I see in your manure-smelling posts once in a while so it is clear not all have a stamp of approval on this keeerap.

This was in response to her post on the ayahuasca plant perhaps that's where the miscommunication came in,

by golly who'da thunk what spectromeister meant by calling a post on plants "rubbish & keerap"?

yeah evil would have been my interpretation too considering the source. I'm just trying to help you 2 blue meanies get along.

Neuro

6th January 2016, 09:18 PM

Torquemada the great inquisitor is alive and kicking

Sheesh bringing up Torquemada twice in the same thread? See post #95 also...
Spanish Inquisition must have been a great personal trauma for you growing up... It was an entirely Jewish affair though, as crypto Jewish Marranos like Torquemada persecuted Jews that converted to Christianity. Spectrism would be the polar opposite of Torquemada in philosophy if he was in any such position. Keep screaming Goldie, maybe someone will listen... LOL

singular_me

6th January 2016, 09:53 PM

Sheesh bringing up Torquemada twice in the same thread? See post #95 also...
Spanish Inquisition must have been a great personal trauma for you growing up... It was an entirely Jewish affair though, as crypto Jewish Marranos like Torquemada persecuted Jews that converted to Christianity. Spectrism would be the polar opposite of Torquemada in philosophy if he was in any such position. Keep screaming Goldie, maybe someone will listen... LOL

torquemada is an icon of the Inquisition, known to have written a torture user manual that was implemented throughout europe. and the inquisition was not just only about the jews outside spain

no trauma but fed up with fundamentalism in the entire world

singular_me

6th January 2016, 10:00 PM

you have cast the topic as demonic/evil since page 1...

and yes, when I posted the 2 studies links, you call it new age manure type of knowledge, so you do not think much of God/Nature in this particular case. speaks by itself

By now you should know that I lean toward the concept of pantheism contending that God is his entire creation whereas you regard him separated from it, which is what monotheism is about.

You are plain dishonest and delusional. Show me where I EVER said that some plants are evil. That kind of thought would never even cross my mind. Obviously, it has yours!

You seem to need to keep saying "God/Nature" because you cannot acknowledge that there is a true personal supreme BEING that is intelligent, sentient and all powerful. Instead, you like to make in your own mind a lesser god of bouncing molecules and energy. You are NOT God.

Again, you lie and pretend you utter valuable words in your delusional state. Nobody has beaten you. I am rather surprised you are still here since there are at least a few who see how perverted your little posts are.

The cop in the video is a complete dangerous asshole who should be locked up. But that video has nothing to do with your delusional rants. It is a straw argument, making your unbeleivers out to be mean abusing cops.

Horn

6th January 2016, 10:07 PM

The Inquisition - A jewish shaman's affair using Christianity as its tool, yeah i'd buy that.

I guess we're supposed to think christian goyim whips and lackys as innocent inanimate objects (like .38 specials) in that context?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjfEkBv-Xlo

Neuro

6th January 2016, 10:25 PM

torquemada is an icon of the Inquisition, known to have written a torture user manual that was implemented throughout europe. and the inquisition was not just only about the jews outside spain

no trauma but fed up with fundamentalism in the entire world.
Torquemada wasn't a Christian fundamentalist, he was a cryptojewish pragmatist. Those he persecuted were true Christian conversos in Spain.

Jewboo

6th January 2016, 10:56 PM

Torquemada wasn't a Christian fundamentalist, he was a cryptojewish pragmatist. Those he persecuted were true Christian conversos in Spain.

http://historiaybiografias.com/archivos_varios2/torquemada1.jpg

Horn

6th January 2016, 11:34 PM

Only 500 yrs or so to right of return.

The Alhambra Decree (also known as the Edict of Expulsion) was an edict issued on 31 March 1492, by the joint Catholic Monarchs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Monarchs) of Spain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain) (Isabella I of Castile (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_I_of_Castile) andFerdinand II of Aragon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_II_of_Aragon)) ordering the expulsion of Jews from the Kingdoms of Castile (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Castile) and Aragon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Aragon) and its territories and possessions by 31 July, of that year.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree#cite_note-Decree-translation-1)
The edict was formally revoked on 16 December 1968,[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree#cite_note-2) following the Second Vatican Council (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vatican_Council).

In 2014, the government of Spain passed a law allowing dual citizenship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_citizenship) to Jewish descendants who apply, in order to "compensate for shameful events in the country’s past."[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree#cite_note-3)Thus, Sephardic Jews (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardic_Jews) who are descendants of those Jews expelled from Spain due to the Alhambra Decree, and can prove it, can "become Spaniards without leaving home or giving up their present nationality."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree

Neuro

7th January 2016, 12:17 AM

Only 500 yrs or so to right of return.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree
After all they are Spanish, and so are the Arabs, strange that they weren't allowed to return with citizen rights also...

Hillbilly

7th January 2016, 12:36 AM

http://historiaybiografias.com/archivos_varios2/torquemada1.jpg

The Nose Knows.

Shami-Amourae

7th January 2016, 01:13 AM

The Nose Knows.

http://s23.postimg.org/iueeri3hz/1452116972276.jpg

Horn

7th January 2016, 07:40 AM

For the purposes of inquisitive comparisons in context, Torquemada

the fundamentally christian and screwdriver tool becomes the man converted. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcY_1Zpmz20

singular_me

7th January 2016, 07:45 AM

Torquemada wasn't a Christian fundamentalist, he was a cryptojewish pragmatist. Those he persecuted were true Christian conversos in Spain.

funny, I share that torquemada is infamous for his torture user manual throughout europe while you keep the focus on spain. Inquisition has served multiple purposes... like the consolidation of the jesuite led vatican at the time and going after the shamans, called witches and sorcerers, this to destroy what is called today homeopathy, and alchemy which gave birth to atheistic sciences. Jews were a very extreme minority at the time, even much less represented that they are today.

to me, rosicrucians, jesuites, masonry, zionism, illuminati, bilderbergers, bloodlines, etc... they all look the same, all united to conceal knowledge.

The bloodline theory makes it obvious that talmudism didnt do it alone. Talmudism is a real issue but not the only one.

Neuro

7th January 2016, 08:06 AM

http://historiaybiografias.com/archivos_varios2/torquemada1.jpg
Torquemada was anything but a Jew Goldie says! ;D

funny, I share that torquemada is infamous for his torture user manual throughout europe while you keep the focus on spain. Inquisition has served multiple purposes... like the consolidation of the jesuite led vatican at the time and going after the shamans, called witches and sorcerers, this to destroy what is called today homeopathy, and alchemy which gave birth to atheistic sciences. Jews were a very extreme minority at the time, even much less represented that they are today.

to me, rosicrucians, jesuites, masonry, zionism, illuminati, bilderbergers, bloodlines, etc... they all look the same, all united to conceal knowledge.

The bloodline theory makes it obvious that talmudism didnt do it alone.
An unproven theory makes nothing obvious apart from you trying to cover for the crimes of Talmud whore shippers... Why is that Goldie?

Horn

7th January 2016, 09:07 AM

Quit putting words into the peoples mouth, Torquemada.

singular_me

7th January 2016, 12:15 PM

Torquemada was anything but a Jew Goldie says! ;D

An unproven theory makes nothing obvious apart from you trying to cover for the crimes of Talmud whore shippers... Why is that Goldie?

I wont discuss the fact that, yes he was jewish, but the picture is bigger than that... you only see the jewish aspect while I see also see the destruction of science by the inquisition. Have you seen the borgias TV series? vatican in this era was an entity on its own managed by the jesuites and rosicrucians.

bloodlines' unproven theory ??? you didnt search enough or again wont go there.

talmud issues are real - but I cannot help, I see the whole nest of intricate plots and deep conspiracies. There is a reason why jerusalem has been at the center of the conflict since about 2000 years

Jewboo

7th January 2016, 01:17 PM

Torquemada was anything but a Jew Goldie says! ;D

An unproven theory makes nothing obvious apart from you trying to cover for the crimes of Talmud whore shippers... Why is that Goldie?

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Same reason why Goldissima never mentions that her mom's Tutsi tribe is kosher. Ditto Hornstein.

Horn

7th January 2016, 01:31 PM

Torquemada's Manifest Destiny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mEkMy1KNW0

singular_me

7th January 2016, 03:28 PM

twisting facts, I did it ONCE or TWICE... and you started hunting me down with your stupid pictures and stalking me with the jewish sword. Why should I do it again and again? And additionally I didnt know about the jewish heritage of the tutsis, I learned this on here.

I also read a while back that the only real jews are blacks from the ethiopian region, the semite type isnt what it claims to be. True or not ? I couldnt care less. One thing is certain is that black jews are not taking over the world, or are they ??? So drop it.

try to find out why jerusalem is the target of all abrahamic religions and you will UNdo the evil, but be warned, in the process they will be all crumbling down.

I STAND BY WHAT I SAID:
to me, rosicrucians, jesuites, masonry, zionism, illuminati, bilderbergers; british, french and german bloodlines; club or rome, skulls and bones, fabians, pilgrims, etc... they all look the same, all united to conceal knowledge. Even with zionism is at the top, they still ALL conspire. without all of them, zionism would be nowhere.

you cannot blame me for probing much further down the rabbit hole than you.

Same reason why Goldissima never mentions that her mom's Tutsi tribe is kosher. Ditto Hornstein.

Jewboo

7th January 2016, 05:28 PM

And additionally I didnt know about the jewish heritage of the tutsis, I learned this on here.

Book at GSUS first schooled you on the fact that your mom's Tutsi tribe is talmudic jewish.

:o

Cebu_4_2

7th January 2016, 05:54 PM

I STAND BY WHAT I SAID:
to me, rosicrucians, jesuites, masonry, zionism, illuminati, bilderbergers; british, french and german bloodlines; club or rome, skulls and bones, fabians, pilgrims, etc... they all look the same, all united to conceal knowledge. Even with zionism is at the top, they still ALL conspire. without all of them, zionism would be nowhere.

All fucking Jews, this IS something you should concider when posting. Zionism = jews along with all else.

Why in civilized countries were they kicked out more than 200 times? Because of Masons or Illuminati?

There is a clear infighting happening and the proof is that the Jews are not kicked out anymore because they use and rule the legal system in this so called 'civilized' world.

Horn

7th January 2016, 05:59 PM

Why in civilized countries were they kicked out more than 200 times? Because of Masons or Illuminati?

Its part and parcel plan to the diaspora religion to colonize and spread.

Just as Europe "taxed/inquisited" its own nationals more than the colonies to shipem' out and away, Manifest Destiny elsewhere.

singular_me

7th January 2016, 06:43 PM

with amsel rothschild, the consolidation became very obvious... until then, they all were secret lodges but not that well organized. Though I dont think there was any jew involved in the Vril and Thule societies. I still am investigating this every now and then.

the real dark plot is why jerusalem, the bible would just be too obvious but works well for the uneducated masses.

I also consider the fact that sanctions do not work and the elites have known this since ever, so if we analyze the situation of the jews unable to own land for centuries long, its surely has consequences and explains why they are banding together so much and and have an hostile behavior. The christian elites knew the problem it would cause since day 1 by banning jews from owning land while allowing them to handle the dirty business of usury. That is how I see the conspiracy coming together. They did the 1st part of the consolidation for the white/christian elite in the fist place, vatican included, as personal finance managers. Rothschild changed the game and reversed the situation right after the defeat of napoleon.

it also is useful to keep in mind that paper money was invented by the chinese.

Neuro

8th January 2016, 01:53 AM

I wont discuss the fact that, yes he was jewish, but the picture is bigger than that... you only see the jewish aspect while I see also see the destruction of science by the inquisition. Have you seen the borgias TV series? vatican in this era was an entity on its own managed by the jesuites and rosicrucians.

bloodlines' unproven theory ??? you didnt search enough or again wont go there.

talmud issues are real - but I cannot help, I see the whole nest of intricate plots and deep conspiracies. There is a reason why jerusalem has been at the center of the conflict since about 2000 years
A TV series depicting the Vatican managed by Jesuits and Rosicrucians? Did you look into the names of the producers, directors, media companies? Most people don't know the leader of the Inquisition, Torquemada, was Jewish. Neither that the founder of the Jesuits, Loyola, was a cryptojew too. Nor Weisshaupt the founder of Illuminati fame. Shall we go on? Karl Marx, Trotsky. Why don't people know? Maybe because they get their education of history from watching these TV shows that re-write history, covering for the Jewish crimes.

singular_me

8th January 2016, 05:34 AM

you have to look at the starting point, that persecution/sanctions do not work and always have an underlying aim which is sought by those implementing them. That is why certain jews like loyala and torquemada were left alone (while the jewish people facing expulsion from whatever country on a regular basis, side effects of sanctions fueling their hostile behaviors). Even rothschild when starting up his banking business in germany was allowed to prosper.

The first jesuits were the templars, and I dont think you will find any jew in the knight templar order which was masonic. This is what I am seeing. Layola relabeled them when enough infiltrated and with the blessing of pope francis borgia. The TV series shows the jesuits' inner fighting.

we have to wonder why Weisshaupt and other prominent jews werent assassinated, when it was still time to do so...simply because they were protected and given power behind the curtain, thats the only thing that makes sense. There is a reason why the christian elites turned a blind eye to their handling of usury (while it was forbidden for christians, very convenient as a tool for wealth transfer), and which is key to understand where we stand. The christian elites needed them to strengthen their assets in the first place. And they knew that usury would make it easier.

From a religious stand point, if all that hadnt happened, talmudism wouldnt have made it that far. The jews blamed for the killing of jesus and the ensuing sanctions that turned some of them into extremely powerful people was THE PLOT since day 1. The bottom line issue is WHY?

the real bottom line is a lot dirtier... the mother of all cans of worms and the pandora boxes

A TV series depicting the Vatican managed by Jesuits and Rosicrucians? Did you look into the names of the producers, directors, media companies? Most people don't know the leader of the Inquisition, Torquemada, was Jewish. Neither that the founder of the Jesuits, Loyola, was a cryptojew too. Nor Weisshaupt the founder of Illuminati fame. Shall we go on? Karl Marx, Trotsky. Why don't people know? Maybe because they get their education of history from watching these TV shows that re-write history, covering for the Jewish crimes.

Neuro

8th January 2016, 07:03 AM

Knight Templars and Jesuits were two different organizations, knight Templars dissolved 200 years prior to formation of Jesuits. Why do you assume them to be the same?

Horn

8th January 2016, 08:17 AM

The idea that jew Europe and mideast were an acting independent of any of the national/religious empirical support for eons is ludicrous. From the beginning it has been a symbiotic relationship between overlords and the jew. To think the overlords are just enticed by jew riches is also ludicrous the spoils were and are mostly 50/50. When things get sticky (as they most often do) the jew provides the overlord with a perfect scapegoat. You cannot simply eliminate them completely, cause a khazar will arrive to carry the torch.

The Catholic church enabled sole jew usury until the reformation, then England took over a large part of the enabling. Quick conversion to Christianity saved any jews that were worth saving to the Church of England. Jesuits were bullwork formed to protect the Vatican within nations that did not experience any "reformation". The reformation only provided a double headed hydra capable of engulphing the planet and nothing more, a planned model based on symbiotic relationship.

Russia for all its inadequacy remains the effective Anti to this day, vacillating purposefully to lend an air of normality with or without jewish control. When in fact all it does is blow is controlled hot air. The main attraction of jews to overlords is that they're a race willing to sacrifice in large portions their own to get ahead. Its been duplicated by many others since. 2000 yrs. of this religion and you have the "holy communion" witnessed today. Union against a created enemy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKRHWT6xdEU

singular_me

8th January 2016, 08:38 AM

Knight Templars and Jesuits were two different organizations, knight Templars dissolved 200 years prior to formation of Jesuits. Why do you assume them to be the same?

templars invented the note of credit and became too powerful... but it only was a temporary dismantlement (allowing the jews to take over credit in the wake of a cartel war?)... they regrouped under their original freemasonry and the jesuite order is its revival. masons and jews made a pact. Or masonry created the jewish led jesuit order. However, the jews did it alone, doesnt hold any water. It all goes back to the babylonian mysteries whose ramifications extend to ancient egypt.

the whole story is about power and disentangling this will cost humanity dear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO42IVot2zY

singular_me

8th January 2016, 09:58 AM

The idea that jew Europe and mideast were an acting independent of any of the national/religious empirical support for eons is ludicrous. From the beginning it has been a symbiotic relationship between overlords and the jew.

the only advice I can suggest to anyone calling him/herself a true christian is to go back to early christianism, prior the draft of the bible, which my mother talked to me about a lot. Faith cannot stand by itself as the result of persecution nor sanctions imposed on any other group. God's law.

And so far, religions as a whole have just been doing this since ever. Competition ? No thanks.

----------------- as a starter

When the apostles died, they left no pope and little church hierarchy.
They relied on a basic set of beliefs, learned at baptism, called the Rule of Faith. These teachings were passed on orally, but effectively, as Irenaeus informs us in A.D. 185 or so:

The Church, having received this preaching and this faith, although scattered throughout the whole world, yet, as if occupying one house, carefully preserves it. She believes these things … and she proclaims them, teaches them, and hands them down with perfect harmony, as if she possessed only one mouth. (Against Heresies, I:10:2)

The Rule of Faith was an attempt to preserve what the apostles taught pure and unchanged.

Finally, here's some ideas on how to read the early Christian writings for yourself.
http://www.christian-history.org/early-christian-writings.html

Horn

8th January 2016, 10:38 AM

The Rule of Faith was an attempt to preserve what the apostles taught pure and unchanged.

Your charitable contribution to spiritual middlemen never hurts either, tithe away any possibility of yourself becoming "sinful"

Church can't do then the crown will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPquvsacG5M

singular_me

10th January 2016, 03:03 PM

thanks horn... lol

boodline-masons in bed with zionists-talmudists, have been allies since day 1. They have used judeo christianism to further their goals. This is the filthy and very shabby secret that not many will touch, because the deception is bottomless. But either way, judgement day is around the corner. Real teachings dont hold anybody hostage to make a point... look at the muslims: judeo christians are the nemeses... best of luck resolving this

for truth seekers
Images of Jesus’s Crucifixion did not appear in churches until the tenth century. early christians empathize on the paradise, not crucifixion and its ensuing divide and rule

singular_me

10th August 2016, 10:32 AM

lets give another chance this time to near death experience and shamanism, which is only positive if willing to experience the "oneness state". The knowledge that everything is "Mind" is as old as mankind, the ultimate conspiracy.

Dying is getting back your full and infinite awareness!!

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Mental Clarity During Near-Death Experiences Suggests Mind Exists Apart From Brain: Study. This suggests the mind may function independently of the brain.’

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In his most recent study, published this month in the Journal of Near-Death Studies, Batthyany and his colleagues reviewed thousands of accounts of near-death experiences (NDEs) to determine the quality of vision and cognition.

He reported: “The more severe the physiological crisis, the more likely NDEers are to report having experienced clear and complex cognitive and sensory functioning.”

Part of Batthyany’s goal was to replicate earlier studies, few as they are, that have looked at the quality of vision and cognition during NDEs.

In a 2007 study by researchers at the University of Virginia, titled “Unusual Experiences: Near Death and Related Phenomena,” 52.2 percent of NDEers reported clearer vision. Jeffrey Long, M.D., founder of the Near Death Experiences Research Foundation (NDERF), found in a survey of 1,122 NDEers, that about 74 percent reported “more consciousness and alertness.”

“I felt extremely aware, totally present, sharp, and focused. In hindsight, it’s like being half asleep when I was alive, and totally awake after I was pronounced dead,” said one experiencer, as noted in Batthyany’s study.

“My mind felt cleared and my thoughts seemed quick and decisive. I felt a great sense of freedom and was quite content to be rid of my body. I felt a connection with everything around me in a way that I cannot describe. I felt as if I was thinking faster or that time had slowed down considerably,” said another.

While Batthyany’s study confirmed, to a certain extent, the results of the previous studies that had shown an increase in cognitive and sensory functioning during NDEs, his methodology had some limitations. He said these limitations may have led to lower estimates for the percentage of NDEers who have heightened cognition.
Methodology Limitations

He compiled thousands of written accounts from online repositories of experiences, such as the NDERF website, and ran them through a computer program, which identified words related to vision or cognition (such as “saw” or “thought”).

He and his colleagues then rated the quality of vision or cognition described in this smaller sample on a scale from -2 to +2. They further narrowed their study to experiences that included detailed explanations of the medical conditions that accompanied the NDEs. Only patients with cardiac and/or respiratory arrest were included in this study.

Previous studies had asked NDEers directly about the quality of their vision and cognition. Batthyany’s study, however, could only analyze the information given in general NDE accounts. So, for example, when he decided that there was “no change” in cognition or vision in some accounts, it may have been that there was indeed a change but that the NDEer hadn’t described it specifically enough to be counted...........

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