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Dogman
31st December 2015, 09:50 AM
Let the fun began and the roaring and shouting commence.

(CNN) President Barack Obama is expected to announce in the coming days a new executive action with the goal of expanding background checks on gun sales, people familiar with White House planning said.

Described as "imminent," the set of executive actions would fulfill a promise by the President to take further unilateral steps the White House says could help curb gun deaths.

Plans for the action are not yet complete, and those familiar with the process warn that unforeseen circumstances could delay an announcement. But gun control advocates are expecting the new actions to be revealed next week, ahead of Obama's annual State of the Union address, set for January 12.

The White House wouldn't comment directly on the exact timing or content of Obama's executive orders. White House spokesman Eric Schultz said that the President expected a set of recommendations on unilateral action to arrive at the beginning of the year.

He said Obama was "expressing urgency" for a list of steps he can take on his own after high-profile incidents of gun violence at the end of this year.

"It is complicated. That's why it's taken some time for our policy folks, our lawyers, and our expects to work through this and see what's possible," Schultz said.

A spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association said the group had no comment The group previously told CNN that Obama's "gun control agenda was rejected by Congress. Now, he is doing what he always does when he doesn't get his way, defying the will of the people and using executive action."

The group said at the time that Obama had his "wish list of gun control," in California but "it didn't prevent the San Bernardino attack."

"The fact is, the President's gun control agenda will only make it harder for law-abiding citizens to exercise their right to self-defense," NRA spokeswoman Jennifer Baker.

Gun control advocates and White House officials say the focus remains on the so-called "gun show loophole," which allows certain sellers of guns -- at gun shows and elsewhere -- to avoid conducting background checks before making sales.

Months after the Newtown, Connecticut elementary school massacre that claimed 26 victims, the then-Democratic majority Senate rejected a similar proposal.

Congress would still need to act in order to make background checks fully universal. But advocates and administration lawyers have struck upon a provision in the law that could allow for Obama to expand the background check requirement to additional sellers.

Federal law currently requires all individuals "engaged in the business" of selling guns to obtain a license and conduct background checks on buyers. But others who only make occasional sales or are selling firearms from a personal collection are exempted from the background check requirement.

Gun control advocates say Obama could take action himself by issuing a regulation that provides expanded guidance on who falls under the "in the business" standard.

One group, the Michael Bloomberg-helmed Everytown for Gun Safety, has provided recommendations to the White House that include creating a test for assessing who must become licensed to continue selling guns. Factors would include volume and speed of sales, and whether or not the seller relies on advertising to sell guns.

The group also recommended Obama define a gun in a "personal collection" as having been in the seller's possession for at least a year.

Before leaving for his winter vacation in Hawaii, Obama met with Bloomberg at the White House to discuss gun control.

Aside from the background check provision, people familiar with Obama's plans say his new gun control announcement will include new funding for government agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/31/politics/obama-to-announce-new-executive-action-on-guns/

Dogman
31st December 2015, 02:33 PM
I think he is going to do this and let the courts and his replacement sort it out.

He does have the stroke to make it happen, and when he does, make sure the popcorn supply is abundant because it should be a hoot to watch the fireworks show.

Ares
31st December 2015, 02:36 PM
I refuse to recognize Federal Jurisdiction over the states. Article 1 section 8, clause 17:

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

Mr. Obama and his UNLAWFUL executive order can go fuck himself.

Dogman
31st December 2015, 02:43 PM
I refuse to recognize Federal Jurisdiction over the states. Article 1 section 8, clause 17:

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

Mr. Obama and his UNLAWFUL executive order can go fuck himself. Agreed....!

gots popcorn ?

Twisted Titan
31st December 2015, 04:21 PM
Everybody buy whatever you can get your hands on as best your budget will allow.

Take action now , or take chances later.....

Neuro
1st January 2016, 02:39 AM
I refuse to recognize Federal Jurisdiction over the states. Article 1 section 8, clause 17:

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

Mr. Obama and his UNLAWFUL executive order can go fuck himself.
Sadam Hussein refused to recognize the court that condemned him to death.... He still hanged. Sometimes it doesn't matter who is right and lawful but who has the biggest guns...

gunDriller
1st January 2016, 05:11 AM
Sadam Hussein refused to recognize the court that condemned him to death.... He still hanged. Sometimes it doesn't matter who is right and lawful but who has the biggest guns...

In the case of defending oneself against home invaders wearing bullet proof vests, it may also help to have steel-cored armor piercing bullets.

Neuro
1st January 2016, 05:26 AM
In the case of defending oneself against home invaders wearing bullet proof vests, it may also help to have steel-cored armor piercing bullets.
Yes probably best to avoid going to their court room to begin with, the outcome if you don't accept the legitimacy is going to be the same, they just hate not having a case!

gunDriller
1st January 2016, 08:26 AM
I think HR 4269, the bill that criminalizes AR15 & AR10 type gun designs, is one of those, "we tried" type bills.

Sort of like the Repugs. introducing an Obamacare-repeal bill when they know they don't have the votes.

palani
1st January 2016, 08:43 AM
I believe 'gun' itself is not politically correct. I see no reason why women should not object to being associated with weapons of war (or even weapons of defense).


The identification of women with powerful weapons is common historically (such as Big Bertha, Brown Bess, Mons Meg, etc.).

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=gun

Time to change the terminology. How about 'Johnny'? As in the scene from the Shining by Jack Nicholson "HERE'S JOHNNY"

gunDriller
1st January 2016, 10:39 AM
Time to change the terminology. How about 'Johnny'? As in the scene from the Shining by Jack Nicholson "HERE'S JOHNNY"

Already taken.

Too many men have used this line while undressing in front of their women.

mick silver
1st January 2016, 10:44 AM
An American who doesn’t know that the term “goyim” means “stupid cattle.”The agenda is clear. Fear and hopelessness are meant to push the public to seeking “strong leaders.” However, the same controlled media also controls the message and defines which leaders are “strong” and which leaders are “weak.” Thus, “strong” is defined as favoring continual war, eliminating constitutional rights in the name of “national security” and supporting total deregulation of financial markets, creating a “pirate” class of “banksters, scamsters and manipulators” who systematically restructure the alignment of national assets. By assets, we we mean your retirement funds, the value of your home and even your job.