What the heck are you waiting for?..."You don't own it, if you don't hold it"... V

[Ponce]

I keep on reading about ALL the trouble that most people are having with their land....but....nowhere do I read that they have a "Land Patent"..... The US government are only the caretakers of all US land (they own very little of it) till someone claim it.

When Hoover passed the "Property Tax" in 1933 he never said....Private Property or Land Patent.....everyone took it for granted that he also meant the above.....a land patent is another security fence to protect you and yours, no one that has a land patent have EVER lost their private property to anyone, even in a appeal court.
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US Citizens & Their Property Collateral for US Debt - See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/us-citizens-property-collatera.html#sthash.RCrTw3n3.dpuf.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title toproperty, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the FederalReserve Act (1913) "hypothecated" all property within the federalUnited States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -inwhich the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen(tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trustvia his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United Stateshypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets andlabor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to theFederal Reserve System. - See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/us-citizens-property-collatera.html#sthash.RCrTw3n3.dpuf
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The above does not say "Private Property" but only Their Property.....if they made a typo it was in our favor and is the law.

The Land Patent came BEFORE the Federal Reserve and was voted by all those in Congress and by the president of the US for the simple reason that they knew what the future would be like.
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If I am wrong on any of this then PLEASE correct me for I am willing to die to protect my land....as usual, please pardon my English.

V

[mick silver]

do you pay taxes on your land now ...???

[Ponce]

Like I told the tax man, this is the only tax that I'll pay in order to help the community, but once it goes to high and abusive I'll stop paying and let you take me to court in four years....he said "OK"...I have been reading about this subject for five years in in two different places it says that I don't have to pay..... the only Land Patent that pays taxes is for a gold mine and so on.

V

[palani]

Conditions annexed to a conveyance never expire. So it is not just the land patent but the act of congress that authorized that particular land patent. Then you have to check to see under what conditions they authorized the conveyance.

In the original 13 colonies you can trace land ownership back to the original grant (generally from the crown) and claim the land under due chain of title from the original grantee down to you. Figure out the conditions annexed to it and pay your fair share according to these conditions, no more, no less.

See in war only public property gets seized. Privately held property continues to be held privately. The invader can establish no new system of laws which can be used to seize private property or to annex private property into the public venue. The monetary system is just another method used to make you believe your property can be separated from you. They make you believe you owe a debt and that your property is the surety and if you don't pay up they will take your property to satisfy the debt. This method is just another way to wage war.

[GeneBlaze]

Ponce, here is an article you might be interested in. Summit County in Co is using eminent domain and lack of building permits to take a property from a couple. They mention that they have a Land Patent for the property but believe they will eventually lose the land.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/04/129155-forget-cattle-ranch-story-government-trying-take-away-familys-entire-property/

[Ponce]

Yes Gene, it can become a public domain "only" if it is for the good of the people in general and not to build something to create more tax dollar, or in case of war for military use........ my property is very small and very far from anything, only the Zionist would give me a hard time for the sign that has been in my front yard for the past fifteen year "NO USRAEL".

V

[madfranks]

Yes Gene, it can become a public domain "only" if it is for the good of the people in general and not to build something to create more tax dollar, or in case of war for military use........ my property is very small and very far from anything, only the Zionist would give me a hard time for the sign that has been in my front yard for the past fifteen year "NO USRAEL".

V

But Ponce, who defines if the land will be used "for the good of the people" or not? If they want the property, they can just say its for the good of the people and then take it. Like the article Gene posted, the county commissioners are saying the open space is more important (for the good of the people) than the property owners having a home.