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EE_
23rd January 2016, 07:20 PM
How come I never see any studies for toxins in ocean micro-organisms, the beginning of the food chain?
Another thing that is never mentioned, if the massive amount of toxic sludge from the Fukushima tsunami has polluted the western north American coast. I guess if they said the tsunami sludge might be the cause of such a mass die off, people would ask what else came over with the sludge?

Sea star wasting disease among worst wildlife die-offs say scientists
The mysterious wasting disease is still killing sea stars from Mexico to Alaska
By Lisa Johnson, CBC News Posted: Jan 21, 2016 6:50 PM PT Last Updated: Jan 22, 2016 11:45 AM PT

The sea star wasting disease that's causing mysterious and dramatic die-offs on the Pacific coast is still killing the animals — and hitting a bigger range of species over a larger area than originally thought.

Scientists investigating the disease in the U.S. and Canada met in Seattle, Wash. last week to share the latest findings on the phenomenon.

Even if the exact cause of the die-off is still being debated, the scientists agreed on the scale of the problem, said Dr. Martin Haulena, the veterinarian for the Vancouver Aquarium who attended the workshop.

"This is, if not the, certainly one of the biggest wildlife die-offs that have ever been recorded, and we're not just talking marine die-offs."

Haulena says his observation is based on the number and variety of sea stars being killed as well as the range of the die-off which stretches from Mexico to Alaska.


Slow recovery

The wasting disease first appeared in 2013, with scuba divers and others reporting sea stars showing lesions, losing their limbs and turning to mush.

It's now spread from Mexico to Alaska, said Haulena, causing 90 to 95 per cent mortality in some areas.

"Recovery is not happening the way it should be, so I think it is still really bad."

Chris Harley, a marine ecologist at the University of B.C., has been monitoring sea star populations, including ones along a Vancouver beach in Kitsilano.

That site used to have 200 to 400 purple Pisaster sea stars — which all but disappeared in 2014 due to the wasting disease. Last year, he found about 10.

Last night, he checked again and found 50, "but of those 50, about a quarter of them were sick," said Harley.

"As it warms up I think we'll be seeing a lot more mortality."

Virus to blame?

The most likely culprit for the disease is some sort of virus, said Harley.

In 2014, researchers at Cornell University found a virus that's more prevalent in sick sea stars than healthy ones, and when they injected healthy ones with the virus it made them sick.

But that particular virus can be found in preserved sea stars from decades ago, said Harley, so there's likely something else at play.

"It could be a disease that's been in the system a long time, and something sparked an outbreak recently."

Whether warmer waters from climate change triggered the die-off — or some other factor — is still unclear, said Harley.

Keystone species

Any die-off of this magnitude is a major concern, said Harley and Haulena, not just for people who might miss seeing sea stars along the beach but for the ecology itself.

The purple Pisaster is the textbook example of something ecologists call a "keystone species." In the case of that sea star, it eats mussels — which exert a certain control over the entire rocky intertidal, said Harley.

"By having the sea stars around you're keeping the mussels in check, and that allows a lot of other plants and animals that would otherwise get covered and smothered by mussels to survive," he said.

"When a single species gets wiped out or experiences a drastic change in population, that has ramifications up and down the food chain," said Haulena.

And there are many more species — including the many-armed sun star — that are getting sick, said Haulena, as well as possible signs of disease in sea urchins and sea cucumbers.

"We knew it was a big deal around here, but to put it in context — yeah, it's a really big deal."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sea-star-wasting-die-off-1.3414607

Joshua01
23rd January 2016, 07:33 PM
How come I never see any studies for toxins in ocean micro-organisms, the beginning of the food chain?
Another thing that is never mentioned, if the massive amount of toxic sludge from the Fukushima tsunami has polluted the western north American coast. I guess if they said the tsunami sludge might be the cause of such a mass die off, people would ask what else came over with the sludge?

Sea star wasting disease among worst wildlife die-offs say scientists
The mysterious wasting disease is still killing sea stars from Mexico to Alaska
By Lisa Johnson, CBC News Posted: Jan 21, 2016 6:50 PM PT Last Updated: Jan 22, 2016 11:45 AM PT

The sea star wasting disease that's causing mysterious and dramatic die-offs on the Pacific coast is still killing the animals — and hitting a bigger range of species over a larger area than originally thought.

Scientists investigating the disease in the U.S. and Canada met in Seattle, Wash. last week to share the latest findings on the phenomenon.

Even if the exact cause of the die-off is still being debated, the scientists agreed on the scale of the problem, said Dr. Martin Haulena, the veterinarian for the Vancouver Aquarium who attended the workshop.

"This is, if not the, certainly one of the biggest wildlife die-offs that have ever been recorded, and we're not just talking marine die-offs."

Haulena says his observation is based on the number and variety of sea stars being killed as well as the range of the die-off which stretches from Mexico to Alaska.


Slow recovery

The wasting disease first appeared in 2013, with scuba divers and others reporting sea stars showing lesions, losing their limbs and turning to mush.

It's now spread from Mexico to Alaska, said Haulena, causing 90 to 95 per cent mortality in some areas.

"Recovery is not happening the way it should be, so I think it is still really bad."

Chris Harley, a marine ecologist at the University of B.C., has been monitoring sea star populations, including ones along a Vancouver beach in Kitsilano.

That site used to have 200 to 400 purple Pisaster sea stars — which all but disappeared in 2014 due to the wasting disease. Last year, he found about 10.

Last night, he checked again and found 50, "but of those 50, about a quarter of them were sick," said Harley.

"As it warms up I think we'll be seeing a lot more mortality."

Virus to blame?

The most likely culprit for the disease is some sort of virus, said Harley.

In 2014, researchers at Cornell University found a virus that's more prevalent in sick sea stars than healthy ones, and when they injected healthy ones with the virus it made them sick.

But that particular virus can be found in preserved sea stars from decades ago, said Harley, so there's likely something else at play.

"It could be a disease that's been in the system a long time, and something sparked an outbreak recently."

Whether warmer waters from climate change triggered the die-off — or some other factor — is still unclear, said Harley.

Keystone species

Any die-off of this magnitude is a major concern, said Harley and Haulena, not just for people who might miss seeing sea stars along the beach but for the ecology itself.

The purple Pisaster is the textbook example of something ecologists call a "keystone species." In the case of that sea star, it eats mussels — which exert a certain control over the entire rocky intertidal, said Harley.

"By having the sea stars around you're keeping the mussels in check, and that allows a lot of other plants and animals that would otherwise get covered and smothered by mussels to survive," he said.

"When a single species gets wiped out or experiences a drastic change in population, that has ramifications up and down the food chain," said Haulena.

And there are many more species — including the many-armed sun star — that are getting sick, said Haulena, as well as possible signs of disease in sea urchins and sea cucumbers.

"We knew it was a big deal around here, but to put it in context — yeah, it's a really big deal."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sea-star-wasting-die-off-1.3414607

Doesn't this sound like what progressive-ism has done to America?

EE_
23rd January 2016, 07:56 PM
Doesn't this sound like what progressive-ism has done to America?

I think everyone knows the government works through all media stations, to push a narrative that will sway public opinion on many issues...middle east war, economy, etc.
If you believe the government is in bed with all the media stations, is it possible the gov is suppressing the cause of this die-off story?

Joshua01
23rd January 2016, 08:03 PM
I think everyone knows the government works through all media stations, to push a narrative that will sway public opinion on many issues...middle east war, economy, etc.
If you believe the government is in bed with all the media stations, is it possible the gov is suppressing the cause of this die-off story?

Great point! Think about it, how do we know everything that happens in the last frontier on Earth? They claim half the fish in the ocean have died, or even say the threat is there and all of a sudden haddock is $30 a pound! Lots of money to be made for lots of people. The government and 'science' can pretty much make all the rules by claiming they have enough 'evidence' to be sure of themselves.

Hitch
23rd January 2016, 11:50 PM
Worst ever wildlife die off or worst ever sea star die off? Sounds like this article is talking about one species of marine wildlife having issues. If it's one species, not wildlife in general, maybe they will find a reason and be able to pin point the problem.

I'm on the west coast, and I don't see any big die offs happening here. Except one time will walking the beach, a bunch of dead birds. I'm not a naturalist, just an observer. The worst thing that's happened to us, is crab season got closed down.

In fact, this last season was the best we've had in a long time for whale watching in years. People were left on the dock, because the boats were at max capacity.

EE_
24th January 2016, 05:09 AM
Worst ever wildlife die off or worst ever sea star die off? Sounds like this article is talking about one species of marine wildlife having issues. If it's one species, not wildlife in general, maybe they will find a reason and be able to pin point the problem.

I'm on the west coast, and I don't see any big die offs happening here. Except one time will walking the beach, a bunch of dead birds. I'm not a naturalist, just an observer. The worst thing that's happened to us, is crab season got closed down.

In fact, this last season was the best we've had in a long time for whale watching in years. People were left on the dock, because the boats were at max capacity.

If you believe the Pacific marine die-off is a hoax and the Pacific is as healthy as it always has been, maybe you should contact a local news outlet and let them know you are concerned why so many local news outlets from AK to Mexico, are reporting these bogus stories about seals, sea lions, whales, sea birds, pelicans, salmon, sardines, starfish, crabs, etc. dying.
Let them know everything is healthy and normal. Maybe they will print your story?
Maybe If your story gets out on how healthy the Pacific is, more people will want to move to the coast? Someone needs to stand up to all these negative, bogus news stories.

Joshua01
24th January 2016, 05:29 AM
If you believe the Pacific marine die-off is a hoax and the Pacific is as healthy as it always has been, maybe you should contact a local news outlet and let them know you are concerned why so many local news outlets from AK to Mexico, are reporting these bogus stories about seals, sea lions, whales, sea birds, pelicans, salmon, sardines, starfish, crabs, etc. dying.
Let them know everything is healthy and normal. Maybe they will print your story?
Maybe If your story gets out on how healthy the Pacific is, more people will want to move to the coast? Someone needs to stand up to all these negative, bogus news stories.

You actually think news outlets report news independently and don't take their stories from other 'news' outlets...there's your problem right there!!!

mick silver
24th January 2016, 06:08 AM
I believe we are taking more then we are putting back

EE_
24th January 2016, 06:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGLS1bugP0w