General Patton’s Warning on Communism and Jews

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By Dr. William Pierce (1977)At the end of World War II, one of America’s top military leaders accurately assessed the shift in the balance of world power which that war had produced and foresaw the enormous danger of communist aggression against the West. Alone among U.S. leaders he warned that America should act immediately, while her supremacy was unchallengeable, to end that danger. Unfortunately, his warning went unheeded, and he was quickly silenced by a convenient “accident” which took his life.
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Thirty-two years ago, in the terrible summer of 1945, the U.S. Army had just completed the destruction of Europe and had set up a government of military occupation amid the ruins to rule the starving Germans and deal out victors’ justice to the vanquished. General George S. Patton, commander of the U.S. Third Army, became military governor of the greater portion of the American occupation zone of Germany.
It was only in the final days of the war and during his tenure as military governor of Germany — after he had gotten to know both the Germans and America’s “gallant Soviet allies” — that Patton’s understanding of the true situation grew and his opinions changed. In his diary and in many letters to his family, friends, various military colleagues, and government officials, he expressed his new understanding and his apprehensions for the future. His diary and his letters were published in 1974 by the Houghton Mifflin Company under the title The Patton Papers.
Several months before the end of the war, General Patton had recognized the fearful danger to the West posed by the Soviet Union, and he had disagreed bitterly with the orders which he had been given to hold back his army and wait for the Red Army to occupy vast stretches of German, Czech, Rumanian, Hungarian, and Yugoslav territory, which the Americans could have easily taken instead.
On May 7, 1945, just before the German capitulation, Patton had a conference in Austria with U.S. Secretary of War Robert Patterson. Patton was gravely concerned over the Soviet failure to respect the demarcation lines separating the Soviet and American occupation zones. He was also alarmed by plans in Washington for the immediate partial demobilization of the U.S. Army.
Patton said to Patterson: “Let’s keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Red Army. This is the only language they understand and respect.”
Patterson replied, “Oh, George, you have been so close to this thing so long, you have lost sight of the big picture.”
Patton rejoined:
“I understand the situation. Their (the Soviet) supply system is inadequate to maintain them in a serious action such as I could put to them. They have chickens in the coop and cattle on the hoof — that’s their supply system. They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days. After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you. They lived on the land coming down. There is insufficient left for them to maintain themselves going back. Let’s not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do, then . . . we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!”
Patton’s urgent and prophetic advice went unheeded by Patterson and the other politicians and only served to give warning about Patton’s feelings to the alien conspirators behind the scenes in New York, Washington, and Moscow.
The more he saw of the Soviets, the stronger Patton’s conviction grew that the proper course of action would be to stifle communism then and there, while the chance existed. Later in May 1945 he attended several meetings and social affairs with top Red Army officers, and he evaluated them carefully. He noted in his diary onMay 14:
“I have never seen in any army at any time, including the German Imperial Army of 1912, as severe discipline as exists in the Russian army. The officers, with few exceptions, give the appearance of recently civilized Mongolian bandits.”
And Patton’s aide, General Hobart Gay, noted in his own journal forMay 14: “Everything they (the Russians) did impressed one with the idea of virility and cruelty.”
Nevertheless, Patton knew that the Americans could whip the Reds then — but perhaps not later. On May 18 he noted in his diary:
“In my opinion, the American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all three of these. If it should be necessary to fight the Russians, the sooner we do it the better.”
Two days later he repeated his concern when he wrote his wife: “If we have to fight them, now is the time. From now on we will get weaker and they stronger.”
Having immediately recognized the Soviet danger and urged a course of action which would have freed all of eastern Europe from the communist yoke with the expenditure of far less American blood than was spilled in Korea and Vietnam and would have obviated both those later wars not to mention World War III — Patton next came to appreciate the true nature of the people for whom World War II was fought: the Jews.
Most of the Jews swarming over Germany immediately after the war came from Poland and Russia, and Patton found their personal habits shockingly uncivilized.
He was disgusted by their behavior in the camps for Displaced Persons (DP’s) which the Americans built for them and even more disgusted by the way they behaved when they were housed in German hospitals and private homes. He observed with horror that “these people do not understand toilets and refuse to use them except as repositories for tin cans, garbage, and refuse . . . They decline, where practicable, to use latrines, preferring to relieve themselves on the floor.”
He described in his diary one DP camp,
“where, although room existed, the Jews were crowded together to an appalling extent, and in practically every room there was a pile of garbage in one corner which was also used as a latrine. The Jews were only forced to desist from their nastiness and clean up the mess by the threat of the butt ends of rifles. Of course, I know the expression ‘lost tribes of Israel’ applied to the tribes which disappeared — not to the tribe of Judah from which the current sons of bitches are descended. However, it is my personal opinion that this too is a lost tribe — lost to all decency.”
Patton’s initial impressions of the Jews were not improved when he attended a Jewish religious service at Eisenhower’s insistence. His diary entry for September 17, 1945, reads in part:
“This happened to be the feast of Yom Kippur, so they were all collected in a large, wooden building, which they called a synagogue. It behooved General Eisenhower to make a speech to them. We entered the synagogue, which was packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I have ever seen. When we got about halfway up, the head rabbi, who was dressed in a fur hat similar to that worn by Henry VIII of England and in a surplice heavily embroidered and very filthy, came down and met the General . . . The smell was so terrible that I almost fainted and actually about three hours later lost my lunch as the result of remembering it.”
These experiences and a great many others firmly convinced Patton that the Jews were an especially unsavory variety of creature and hardly deserving of all the official concern the American government was bestowing on them.
Another September diary entry, following a demand from Washington that more German housing be turned over to Jews, summed up his feelings:
“Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. Harrison (a U.S. State Department official) and his associates indicate that they feel German civilians should be removed from houses for the purpose of housing Displaced Persons. There are two errors in this assumption. First, when we remove an individual German we punish an individual German, while the punishment is — not intended for the individual but for the race.
Furthermore, it is against my Anglo-Saxon conscience to remove a person from a house, which is a punishment, without due process of law. In the second place, Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals.”
One of the strongest factors in straightening out General Patton’s thinking on the conquered Germans was the behavior of America’s controlled news media toward them. At a press conference in Regensburg, Germany, on May 8, 1945, immediately after Germany’s surrender, Patton was asked whether he planned to treat captured SS troops differently from other German POW’s. His answer was:
“No. SS means no more in Germany than being a Democrat in America — that is not to be quoted. I mean by that that initially the SS people were special sons of bitches, but as the war progressed they ran out of sons of bitches and then they put anybody in there. Some of the top SS men will be treated as criminals, but there is no reason for trying someone who was drafted into this outfit . . .”
Despite Patton’s request that his remark not be quoted, the press eagerly seized on it, and Jews and their front men in America screamed in outrage over Patton’s comparison of the SS and the Democratic Party as well as over his announced intention of treating most SS prisoners humanely.
With great reluctance, and only after repeated promptings from Eisenhower, he had thrown German families out of their homes to make room for more than a million Jewish DP’s — part of the famous “six million” who had supposedly been gassed — but he balked when ordered to begin blowing up German factories, in accord with the infamous Morgenthau Plan to destroy Germany’s economic basis forever. In his diary he wrote:
“I doubted the expediency of blowing up factories, because the ends for which the factories are being blown up — that is, preventing Germany from preparing for war — can be equally well attained through the destruction of their machinery, while the buildings can be used to house thousands of homeless persons.”
Similarly, he expressed his doubts to his military colleagues about the overwhelming emphasis being placed on the persecution of every German who had formerly been a member of the National Socialist party. In a letter to his wife of September 14, 1945, he said:
“I am frankly opposed to this war criminal stuff. It is not cricket and is Semitic. I am also opposed to sending POW’s to work as slaves in foreign lands (i.e., the Soviet Union’s Gulags), where many will be starved to death.”
Despite his disagreement with official policy, Patton followed the rules laid down by Morgenthau and others back in Washington as closely as his conscience would allow, but he tried to moderate the effect, and this brought him into increasing conflict with Eisenhower and the other politically ambitious generals. In another letter to his wife he commented:
“I have been at Frankfurt for a civil government conference. If what we are doing (to the Germans) is ‘Liberty, then give me death.’ I can’t see how Americans can sink so low. It is Semitic, and I am sure of it.”
And in his diary he noted:,
“Today we received orders . . . in which we were told to give the Jews special accommodations. If for Jews, why not Catholics, Mormons, etc? . . . We are also turning over to the French several hundred thousand prisoners of war to be used as slave labor in France. It is amusing to recall that we fought the Revolution in defense of the rights of man and the Civil War to abolish slavery and have now gone back on both principles.”
His duties as military governor took Patton to all parts of Germany and intimately acquainted him with the German people and their condition. He could not help but compare them with the French, the Italians, the Belgians, and even the British. This comparison gradually forced him to the conclusion that World War II had been fought against the wrong people.
After a visit to ruined Berlin, he wrote his wife on July 21, 1945: “Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race, and we are about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It’s said that for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed.”
This conviction, that the politicians had used him and the U.S. Army for a criminal purpose, grew in the following weeks. During a dinner with French General Alphonse Juin in August, Patton was surprised to find the Frenchman in agreement with him. His diary entry for August 18 quotes Gen. Juin: “It is indeed unfortunate, mon General, that the English and the Americans have destroyed in Europe the only sound country — and I do not mean France. Therefore, the road is now open for the advent of Russian communism.”
Later diary entries and letters to his wife reiterate this same conclusion. On August 31 he wrote: “Actually, the Germans are the only decent people left in Europe. it’s a choice between them and the Russians. I prefer the Germans.” And on September 2: “What we are doing is to destroy the only semi-modern state in Europe, so that Russia can swallow the whole.”
By this time the Morgenthauists and media monopolists had decided that Patton was incorrigible and must be discredited. So they began a non-stop hounding of him in the press, a la Watergate, accusing him of being “soft on Nazis” and continually recalling an incident in which he had slapped a shirker two years previously, during the Sicily campaign. A New York newspaper printed the completely false claim that when Patton had slapped the soldier who was Jewish, he had called him a “yellow-bellied Jew.”
Then, in a press conference on September 22, reporters hatched a scheme to needle Patton into losing his temper and making statements which could be used against him. The scheme worked. The press interpreted one of Patton’s answers to their insistent questions as to why he was not pressing the Nazi-hunt hard enough as: “The Nazi thing is just like a Democrat-Republican fight.” The New York Times headlined this quote, and other papers all across America picked it up.
The unmistakable hatred which had been directed at him during this press conference finally opened Patton’s eyes fully as to what was afoot. In his diary that night lie wrote:
“There is a very apparent Semitic influence in the press. They are trying to do two things: first, implement communism, and second, see that all businessmen of German ancestry and non-Jewish antecedents are thrown out of their jobs.
“They have utterly lost the Anglo-Saxon conception of justice and feel that a man can be kicked out because somebody else says he is a Nazi. They were evidently quite shocked when I told them I would kick nobody out without the successful proof of guilt before a court of law . . .
“Another point which the press harped on was the fact that we were doing too much for the Germans to the detriment of the DP’s, most of whom are Jews. I could not give the answer to that one, because the answer is that, in my opinion and that of most nonpolitical officers, it is vitally necessary for us to build Germany up now as a buffer state against Russia. In fact, I am afraid we have waited too long.”
And in a letter of the same date to his wife: “I will probably be in the headlines before you get this, as the press is trying to quote me as being more interested in restoring order in Germany than in catching Nazis. I can’t tell them the truth that unless we restore Germany we will insure that communism takes America.”
Eisenhower responded immediately to the press outcry against Patton and made the decision to relieve him of his duties as military governor and “kick him upstairs” as the commander of the Fifteenth Army. In a letter to his wife on September 29, Patton indicated that he was, in a way, not unhappy with his new assignment, because “I would like it much better than being a sort of executioner to the best race in Europe.”
On October 22 he wrote a long letter to Maj. Gen. James G. Harbord, who was back in the States. In the letter Patton bitterly condemned the Morgenthau policy; Eisenhower’s pusillanimous behavior in the face of Jewish demands; the strong pro-Soviet bias in the press; and the politicization, corruption, degradation, and demoralization of the U.S. Army which these things were causing.
He saw the demoralization of the Army as a deliberate goal of America’s enemies:
“I have been just as furious as you at the compilation of lies which the communist and Semitic elements of our government have leveled against me and practically every other commander. In my opinion it is a deliberate attempt to alienate the soldier vote from the commanders, because the communists know that soldiers are not communistic, and they fear what eleven million votes (of veterans) would do.”
In his letter to Harbord, Patton also revealed his own plans to fight those who were destroying the morale and integrity of the Army and endangering America’s future by not opposing the growing Soviet might:
“It is my present thought . . . that when I finish this job, which will be around the first of the year, I shall resign, not retire, because if I retire I will still have a gag in my mouth . . . I should not start a limited counterattack, which would be contrary to my military theories, but should wait until I can start an all- out offensive . . . .”
From Attack! No. 53, 1977, transcribed by Anthony Collins and edited by Vanessa Neubauer

[Twisted Titan]

The war was never ment to be won.
The war was ment to be continued
So as perpetually keep humanity on the brink of starvation.

1984.

[Bigjon]

Hitler's war was meant to destroy Germans and Germany and The Father of Israel succeeded.

I found this little review, about a favorite author of mine, Douglas Reed.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/01/a-review-of-why-the-germans-why-the-jews-part-1/
In response to Ikat’s post (20 January at 5.55am ), the idea that Hitler’s mission was to destroy Germany rather than empower her is interesting, since it occurred also to the British journalist and eye-witness to events, Douglas Reed. You can watch his ideas unfolding in the various books he wrote, beginning with ‘Insanity Fair’ in April 1938 and continuing through the war and post-war years. Incidentally, if anyone knows of any reason why I should discount Douglas Reed, I’d be glad if they’d tell me about it. So far, there’s been so little said about him on the internet that I’ve had to make my own tentative evaluation of him from reading his books. He seems perfectly sound and objective to me.

[Jewboo]

Hitler's war was meant to destroy Germans and Germany and The Father of Israel succeeded.



:rolleyes: take your meds or provide us with some actual proof.

[Shami-Amourae]

Hitler's war was meant to destroy Germans and Germany and The Father of Israel succeeded.

I found this little review, about a favorite author of mine, Douglas Reed.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/01/a-review-of-why-the-germans-why-the-jews-part-1/
In response to Ikat’s post (20 January at 5.55am ), the idea that Hitler’s mission was to destroy Germany rather than empower her is interesting, since it occurred also to the British journalist and eye-witness to events, Douglas Reed. You can watch his ideas unfolding in the various books he wrote, beginning with ‘Insanity Fair’ in April 1938 and continuing through the war and post-war years. Incidentally, if anyone knows of any reason why I should discount Douglas Reed, I’d be glad if they’d tell me about it. So far, there’s been so little said about him on the internet that I’ve had to make my own tentative evaluation of him from reading his books. He seems perfectly sound and objective to me.




Umm no.

Hitler kicked out the money changers and changed the monetary system to benefit the people instead of the hooked nose demons.

This is why Germany went from a shit economy to such a powerful economy it could literally fight a war against the world.

International Jewry declared war on Germany/Hitler since they couldn't let the cat get out of the bag that goyim could govern themselves. The parasite can't let the host getting to thinking it doesn't need the parasite sucking it's blood.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLyKSYRqXM

[Cebu_4_2]

Umm no.

Hitler kicked out the money changers and changed the monetary system to benefit the people instead of the hooked nose demons.

This is why Germany went from a shit economy to such a powerful economy it could literally fight a war against the world.

International Jewry declared war on Germany/Hitler since they couldn't let the cat get out of the bag that goyim could govern themselves. The parasite can't let the host getting to thinking it doesn't need the parasite sucking it's blood.

Didn't Putin do similar?

[Bigjon]

The proof is where is Germany now. Occupied territory. Not in control of their own destiny, sort of like the rest of the stupid white people who parrot the fascist Nazi line.

[Jewboo]

The proof is where is Germany now.



Oh. Whoever loses a war intentionally WANTED to lose that war.


:rolleyes: Thanks for your "Proof".

[Bigjon]

Oh. Whoever loses a war intentionally WANTED to lose that war.


:rolleyes: Thanks for your "Proof".



Hitler could have captured the whole British army at Dunkirk. Then he could have safely invaded and destroyed the Jewish dominated British Empire. Once he secured his western front he could have subdued Russia without any opposition except from the Russians themselves.

But history tells us how he turned his armies in the direction that insured their defeat.

[hoarder]

Any information based argument about whether or not Hitler was controlled opposition can never be resolved. Almost all the information argued by both sides is supplied by Jews.

So let's proceed to the logic based arguments,

1) Cui bono?
2) When events are decided behind closed doors, the end result reveals the original intention.
3) Controlled opposition is how Jews operate.

In a world where Jews provide the information, logic trumps information.

[mick silver]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/5568.jpg

[Jewboo]

2) When events are decided behind closed doors, the end result reveals the original intention.


You are saying that whoever loses a war intentionally WANTED to lose that war.

:rolleyes: logical nonsense.

[Jewboo]

Hitler could have captured the whole British army at Dunkirk. Then he could have safely invaded and destroyed the Jewish dominated British Empire. Once he secured his western front he could have subdued Russia without any opposition except from the Russians themselves. But history tells us how he turned his armies in the direction that insured their defeat.



http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/defeat/catastrophe-stalingrad-hitler-map.jpg

We can stipulate that Hitler was a poor military strategist but fighting the USA and Russia simultaneously was impossible. Doesn't "prove" he WANTED to lose the war. Our own goyim fathers and uncles here in America going over to kill our fellow Saxon goyim for the jews is the real evil.






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Dear Mom: Tell Grandma I shot cousin Hans today for the jew bankers

[Shami-Amourae]

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[Jewboo]

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Carpet bombed Dresden where his aunts and uncles and nieces and nephews burned alive




http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/jew.gif Oy Vey! Such a fine German-American goy

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/jew.gif Oy Vey! Such a fine German-American goy






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[Bigjon]

Lacey says these are Hitler's blunders, I say they are his strategy to annihilate Germans, in preference of his own Jewish background.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post572306 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63370-Adolf-Hitler-The-greatest-story-NEVER-told!&p=572306&viewfull=1#post572306)

Declares War on the United States
(http://www.historynet.com/hitlers-greatest-blunders.htm)
On December 8, 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt went before Congress and asked for a declaration of war against Japan. Germany was never mentioned. There was little popular support to expand the war; unless Hitler made some gesture of monumental stupidity, the United States at the time had no official reason to declare war on Germany. British and American strategists were frustrated. They had always presumed that once the United States entered the war, defeating Germany would take priority over Japan. But now it appeared America would take on Japan first while Great Britain fought alone against Germany.

Fortunately for them, four days after Pearl Harbor, Hitler committed one of the most monumental blunders in history. While President Roosevelt needed 517 words to declare war and doom Japan, when Hitler went before the Reichstag he required just 334 to seal the fate of the Third Reich.

In the final month of 1941, a perceptive observer may have noticed the first glimmers of hope for the Allied cause, as German prospects took a turn for the worse. Britain was not only unbowed, it was actively counterattacking wherever possible. More worrying for the Germans was the Soviet counterattack in front of Moscow, where fresh Siberian divisions were tearing at the Wehrmacht's Army Group Center.

Despite these rapidly darkening skies, Hitler, upon hearing news of Pearl Harbor, left his Prussian headquarters—where he had gone to personally deal with the Russian winter offensive—and rushed to Berlin. On December 11, he went before the Reichstag to declare war on the United States. It was an act of suicidal hubris. Although Germany was already locked in a war against Great Britain and the Soviet Union, Hitler, when presented with the opportunity to declare war against a nation capable of producing as many munitions in one year as Germany could in five, did not hesitate or flinch. It was not his first serious blunder, nor his last. It was, however, his most colossal.

Why did he do it? This question has long puzzled historians. Hitler was certainly aware of America's production potential, for he had written about it in Mein Kampf. The simplest answer is that despite this knowledge, he remained unimpressed with American military potential. In 1940, he had told Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov that the United States would not be a threat to Germany for decades—"1970 or 1980 at the earliest." Moreover, Hitler had always believed that war with the United States was inevitable. For him, it was better to have that war at a time of his choosing, and when he could count on Japan siphoning off significant amounts of American power. So Germany, for the second time in a generation, found itself in a two-front war against the combined might of the world's greatest economic powers.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post572320 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63370-Adolf-Hitler-The-greatest-story-NEVER-told!&p=572320&viewfull=1#post572320)

Issues Halt Order at Dunkirk
(http://www.historynet.com/hitlers-greatest-blunders.htm)
Still, there was one brief moment when Hitler had it within his power to win the war on one front and remove both France and Britain from his list of antagonists. It had come more than a year and a half earlier, on the coast of northern France. On May 10, 1940, German spearheads brushed aside light resistance in the Ardennes Forest before smashing through the French defensive line at Sedan. Slashing across France, General Heinz Guderian's panzers entered Abbeville, 20 miles from the English Channel, a mere 10 days later. The French army, cut in half and thrown off balance, never recovered its equilibrium.

But even as the Wehrmacht was finishing off France, Hitler's next actions guaranteed the survival of another of his foes, the British Expeditionary Force (BEF), thereby presenting his most committed opponent, Winston Churchill, with a gift of inestimable value: an army with which to continue the struggle.

On May 23, the leading panzer units were only 18 miles from the port at Dunkirk, closer to it than most British units. Although the German troops were exhausted from two weeks of continuous marching and fighting, local commanders judged that they could easily capture the port, and thereby trap the British Army in France. Sensing that a crushing victory was near, Wehrmacht commander in chief Walter von Brauchitsch ordered the city taken. But just before the tanks went forward, Hitler issued his infamous "halt order," stopping them outside Dunkirk.

He never mentioned his rationale for the order; guesses include Hermann Göring's assurance that the Luftwaffe could complete the destruction of the BEF, and Hitler's reluctance to risk his valuable panzers in the unfriendly marsh terrain of neighboring Flanders. Whatever the reason, the halt gave the British two precious days to solidify their defenses around Dunkirk, permitting them to carry out the most famous sealift of modern history. In that end, the Royal Navy, assisted by some French warships and a flotilla of 800 private vessels, pulled 338,226 troops off the beaches at Dunkirk, including 118,000 French, Belgian, and Dutch soldiers. These rescued men provided a veteran core around which Britain rebuilt its army.

Overlooks U-boats' Potential

With the Royal Navy protecting the English Channel and the Royal Air Force denying air dominance to the Luftwaffe, England was safe from invasion. Still, Hitler had one weapon that could take Britain out of the war: the U-boat. In 1917, U-boats came close to bringing Britain to its knees. Despite this, Hitler was slow to see their value. If, during the second half of the 1930s, he had taken the resources wasted on the construction of an almost useless surface fleet and instead applied them to the construction of U-boats, Germany could have started the war with hundreds of these silent killers, rather than 57.

Even with their paucity of numbers, the U-boats came within a hair's breadth of knocking Britain out of the war. By the middle of 1940, Germany had only 25 U-boats left in service. Still, they managed to sink close to 700,000 tons of Allied shipping by the end of the year, or over 225 merchant ships. Despite that success, it was not until February 1941 that Hitler issued Führer Directive 23, ordering a crash program of U-boat production.

Germany went on to build more than 1,100 U-boats during the war, with over 450 still in service in 1945. By early 1943, the U-boats had Britain in desperate straits, and winning the Battle of the Atlantic became the Allies' top priority. Then, in March 1943—almost imperceptibly at first—the tide started to turn. A combination of better tactics, new antisubmarine technology, and a broken German naval code turned the North Atlantic into a submarine graveyard.

U-boats continued sinking Allied ships until the end of the war, but their own losses were unacceptably high. In the end, Germany lost almost 800 U-boats and some 30,000 crewmen. Although they sank close to 14 million tons of Allied shipping, that impressive total was overwhelmed by the nearly 40 million tons of additional shipping the United States alone built during the war. Considering that the entire British merchant fleet in 1940 was less than 18 million tons, it is clear that if Germany had started the war with as many U-boats as it ended with, Britain could not have survived long.

Opens Vast Second Front

But Britain did survive, and was still defiant when Hitler made a blunder second only in folly to his gratuitous declaration of war against the United States: the launch of Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941.

Slightly more than two decades had passed since Germany had last launched a two-front war—and suffered devastating consequences. It therefore took a stunning level of strategic incompetence on Hitler's part to initiate a war in the East when the outcome in the West was still at issue. Tenacity, coupled with flashes of tactical and operational brilliance, kept the German army in the field for four bloody years. And once again, the German military almost made good on Hitler's gamble. But such martial attributes were insufficient to overcome the fundamental strategic mistake that placed them deep into Russia to begin with. It took a number of additional blunders on Hitler's part to crush German hopes of a Drang Nach Osten—"Drive to the East."

Fails to Take Moscow

The first of those blunders came soon after Operation Barbarossa was launched. From the outset, Hitler's military leaders knew that speed was of the essence: they were after a quick contest, not a protracted war. And their initial prospects of winning that race against time were promising: after smashing through the Soviet forward divisions, Army Group Center won a hard-fought battle at Smolensk. At its conclusion, more than 200,000 Soviet prisoners were marched into already overcrowded holding pens, and the road to Moscow was laid bare. Now was the time for a strong, direct thrust at the Soviet capital.

More than just a political objective, Moscow was the nerve center for the Communist Party, a major industrial center, and, most important, the nexus for almost every major rail line in the Soviet Union; if Moscow fell, lateral movement of Soviet forces would become impossible. Moreover, the defeat of Moscow would help cut western Russia off from the eastern armies, which were already beginning their move to the city's aid. In 1812, Russia could give up Moscow to Napoleon and suffer few military consequences. Losing Moscow in 1940 would have been catastrophic to the Soviet cause.

But then Hitler shifted Germany's strategic emphasis: rather than send his forces on to Moscow, at the end of August Hitler ordered General Heinz Guderian to take his Second Panzer Army south to assist the slow-moving Army Group South. By way of explanation, he pointed to the natural resources of the Ukraine and the oil in the Caucasus, both of which he saw as vital to the German war effort. When his generals persisted in protesting this shift in strategy, Hitler exclaimed, "My generals know nothing of economics!" Reluctantly, Guderian took his panzers south, netting another 600,000 prisoners in the Kiev pocket. It was the greatest tactical victory of war, but it was not without cost.

When the advance on Moscow—Operation Typhoon—was renewed on October 2, a precious month had been lost. A combination of stubborn Russian resistance, German overextension, and abysmal weather soon stalled the German offensive just short of its ultimate objective. In late November, when Typhoon was called off, lead German elements were less than 20 miles from Moscow. Only two weeks later, the Russians launched a crippling winter counteroffensive. Unlike Napoleon's Grande Armée, which was shredded after its victory by both the Russians and the winter, Army Group Center did not disintegrate. It did, however, suffer horrific losses and was never again in a position to threaten Moscow. Hitler's chance for a quick and decisive outcome in the East dissolved.


Overvalues Stalingrad as a Target

All hope for victory was not lost, however. In the spring and summer of 1942, a restored Wehrmacht launched a new offensive to secure the Caucasus oil fields. It was at this point that Hitler made a series of misjudgments that doomed a German field army and had dire effects on the overall war effort.

After chastising his generals about Moscow being a mere political target of little military consequence, Hitler, remarkably, allowed himself to be drawn into a battle of prestige for control of Stalingrad. Instead of focusing on the oil fields, he divided his force, sending one to head south toward Baku, the other to take Stalingrad. It was a battle he waged ferociously, long after the city had lost any military utility. Division after division was fed into the Stalingrad maelstrom, where whole battalions were virtually obliterated 24 hours after their commitment. For almost three months, the German Sixth Army pounded at the city until only a small sliver remained in Soviet hands.

Myopically focused on capturing the city named for his mortal enemy, Hitler took no notice of the buildup of Soviet reserves on Sixth Army's weakly held flanks. When the Soviets launched an attack to encircle Sixth Army—Operation Uranus—in mid-November, they quickly shattered first the Romanian and later the Italian and Hungarian armies flanking the city. Two days later, Soviet pincers met at the nearby town of Kalach, entrapping the Sixth Army. For several months the doomed army slowly starved, before finally surrendering on February 2, 1943.

Hitler's maniacal insistence on seizing and holding Stalingrad had cost over 750,000 causalities, and the loss of an irreplaceable field army. It was, up to that point, the greatest single disaster the German army endured.

Gambles All at Kursk

Eventually, the Soviet Stalingrad offensive petered out, and the Germans were given breathing space to consolidate a new defensive line and restore their depleted forces. If they were to have any chance of negotiating a favorable peace, now was the time to fortify in depth, build mobile strike forces for counterattacks—such as Erich von Manstein's successful counteroffensive at Kharkov in February–March 1943—and husband their strength to meet the next Soviet offensive.

Instead, Hitler became fixated on a massive summer offensive aimed at an enormous bulge in the Soviet line around the city of Kursk. Ordering simultaneous thrusts from the north and south, he hoped to trap the Soviet forces within the bulge, or salient, and to tear a gap in their line, allowing the offensive to continue to the east.

If it was the Battle of Stalingrad that decided Hitler would not win the war, it was the Battle of Kursk that decided he would lose it. Aware of the massive preparations the Russians were making around Kursk, many German generals were reluctant to attack; even Hitler had doubts, admitting that the thought of the attack made him feel ill. Despite his foreboding, Hitler eventually ordered it to go forward.
It is a testament to German tactical ability that for 10 days the Wehrmacht pushed doggedly ahead. And for one brief moment, it even seemed as if the horrific losses inflicted upon them would not be in vain. The final defensive belt was breached and the armor of the Fourth Panzer Army massed for the final push. It was at this moment that the Russian commander, General Georgi Zhukov, unveiled his final surprise. The Soviet reserve, comprising the 5th Guards Tank Army, was ordered forward to seal the breech. Near the village of Prokhorovka, the Soviet tanks collided headlong with the onrushing Germans. In what became known as the "Death Ride of the Fourth Panzer Army," both sides fought a close-quarters knife fight with tanks. When it was over, German offensive power in the east was extinguished. The panzer divisions, reconstituted at great cost in the first half of 1943, were shattered. With them went Hitler's hopes of victory.


Reinforces Afrika Korps Too Late

Even as the Germans plodded forward at Kursk, Allied forces were landing at Sicily. That they were able to make relatively short work of the island's defenses and follow up with a rapid invasion of the Italian mainland can be attributed to another of Hitler's blunders. Since early 1941, Hitler had allowed the commander of German forces in North Africa, Erwin Rommel, to conduct an economy-of-force operation there. For two years, Hitler's reluctance to commit more than a trifling amount of troops to the North African sideshow forced Rommel to make his reputation by fighting and generally winning despite being heavily outnumbered.

It was only after the Battle of El Alamein was finally lost, and in the wake of the successful Allied landing in western North Africa—both in early November 1942—that Hitler suddenly decided to massively reinforce Rommel's army. Tens of thousands of German troops were flown and shipped into Tunisia in a forlorn attempt to keep a toehold in North Africa. Hitler's decision came long after all hope of victory had vanished, and had predictable results. Approximately 230,000 Axis troops surrendered at Tunis in May 1943, including most of Rommel's legendary Afrika Korps. These veterans were desperately needed and sorely missed in the contest for Northern Europe.

Hesitates at Normandy

By early 1944, it was apparent to the German general staff and even Hitler that the final contest for control of Northern Europe was not going to be delayed much longer, and that the Allies would soon attempt a Channel crossing. In one of his flashes of intuition, Hitler predicted that the invasion would come at Normandy. Unfortunately for German military planners, he did not have the courage of his convictions. When the Allies actually landed at Normandy, Hitler suspected it was a deception and that their real target was northeast of there, in the Pas-de-Calais region. The upshot for the Allies was that 19 nearby German divisions, including six powerful panzer divisions, spent D-Day idle. Their early commitment to Normandy would have made the Allied beaches a living hell, and might even have thrown the invasion back into the sea. Over the succeeding weeks, Hitler became ever more convinced that the Normandy invasion was a ruse, and it was not until the end of July that he finally approved the movement of a single division from Fifteenth Army, which was guarding the coast near Pas-de-Calais. Once again, it was too late. By the time reinforcing divisions arrived, the German line was hanging by a thread.

In a further blunder on Hitler's part, he had ordered the Normandy front held at all cost. This ensured that when his forces inevitably did give way, the surviving skeleton formations would be incapable of conducting mobile operations or making a stand much short of the defensive fortifications along Germany's western prewar borders.


Issues Prophetic 'Stand and Die' Order

But Hitler's "stand and die" orders had more fateful consequences on the Eastern Front.

Timed to closely coincide with the Allied invasion of Normandy, Stalin had ordered Operation Bagration—the destruction of Germany's Army Group Center—to commence on June 22, 1944, the anniversary of Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union. Prior to the Soviet attack, Hitler's generals advised him to pull back the army—then trying to hold the city of Minsk—to shorter and more defensible positions, so as to let the offensive hit empty space. Failing to persuade him of the necessity of moving out of the way of the Soviet juggernaut, they begged for permission to establish a defense in depth.

Instead, Hitler ordered most of his forces to hold in their forward positions and countenanced no requests for withdrawal, no matter how desperate the situation. The result was calamitous. In one month's fighting the Soviets obliterated Army Group Center, annihilating 20 divisions in the opening weeks of the offensive—almost as many as the Allies were fighting in Normandy. Only exhaustion brought the Soviet horde to a halt on the Vistula River, across from Warsaw. There they restored their strength and prepared their next big move, into the Reich itself.

Loses Second Gamble at the Ardennes

There was, however, a decent probability that Hitler could have spared East Germany almost two generations of Soviet occupation, if not for his next major misstep. By the end of 1944, Allied armies were poised to enter Germany from both the east and west. Through a maximum effort, the Wehrmacht managed to refit several of its panzer divisions and build a mobile reserve with which to meet the onslaught. The refitted armored formations fell far short of what Germany required to turn the tide of the war. But if these divisions had been deployed to the Eastern Front, they could have held off the Russians just long enough for the Western Allies to advance and occupy most of Germany.

Of course, such thinking never concerned Hitler. Instead, he launched his armor that December at a weak sector of the American front—in the Ardennes Forest—in what has become famous as the Battle of the Bulge. Attacking through the Ardennes was a forlorn hope and doomed from the start. It might delay the Allies, but it had no real chance of reenacting the glorious advance of 1940, which had driven over the same ground. All Hitler gained was a foothold in Belgium that could not be sustained. For that he squandered the bulk of his mobile forces and, with them, Germany's last hope of salvaging something from the disaster about to envelop it.

In the end, it's striking that despite blunder after blunder, Germany resisted the combined might of the world's greatest powers for almost half a decade. This is a testament to the operational capabilities of the German army, which demonstrated remarkable recuperative powers throughout the war. Even as late as 1945, the battered Wehrmacht proved capable of lashing out viciously at its tormentors, inflicting more than two battle losses for every one sustained in the war's final months. But it was all in vain. Prowess on the battlefield could not overcome incompetence at the top. Nor could it erase the fact that the Wehrmacht's vaunted fighting capabilities were harnessed to a vile cause. Humanity should remain forever thankful that that cause was led by one of history's greatest military blunderers.



Jim Lacey is the Professor of War, Policy, and Strategy at the Marine War College. A former U.S. Army infantry officer, he is the author of several books on military history, including the forthcoming First Clash on the Battle of Marathon and Keep From All Thoughtful Men on World War II strategy.

[Jewboo]

Why did he do it? This question has long puzzled historians. Hitler was certainly aware of America's production potential, for he had written about it in Mein Kampf. The simplest answer is that despite this knowledge, he remained unimpressed with American military potential. In 1940, he had told Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov that the United States would not be a threat to Germany for decades—"1970 or 1980 at the earliest." Moreover, Hitler had always believed that war with the United States was inevitable. For him, it was better to have that war at a time of his choosing, and when he could count on Japan siphoning off significant amounts of American power. So Germany, for the second time in a generation, found itself in a two-front war against the combined might of the world's greatest economic powers.



Just more evidence that you and Hoarder still insisting that Hitler was a crypto-jew zionist who always intentionally planned to LOSE the war is absurd.

:)

[woodman]

When it became obvious to his generals that they were not only going to lose, but lose due to Hitler's stupidity (intentional) they tried to open channels for surrender. This was not to be allowed. Wolfshanze was perhaps due to this? I am no historian but I have long thought Hitler intentionally lead Germany to ruin. Why wasn't the full might of the Wermacht thrown against London and other targets? The Germans visited nothing upon their enemies such as what their enemies visited upon them (Dresden) and they were ensconced just across the channel. Hitler most likely lived to a ripe old age in Argentina. This would not have been allowed had he not been playing the other side.

In any case, it matters not whether Hitler was a Zionist agent. The damage is done. "By way of deception, so shall we wage war."

[Norweger]

Hitler could have captured the whole British army at Dunkirk. Then he could have safely invaded and destroyed the Jewish dominated British Empire. Once he secured his western front he could have subdued Russia without any opposition except from the Russians themselves.

But history tells us how he turned his armies in the direction that insured their defeat.

The Brits were never any real threat. All they did was to bomb Germany, mostly after it had surrendered. If anything Hitlers actions at Dunkirk shows him to be the most righteous of the parties involved in WW2... Besides they did capture all the equipment, all they did was to let badly trained Brits return home, slowly but surely.

[Rubicon]

Hitler most likely lived to a ripe old age in Argentina.


Debunking the “Hitler Escaped” Myths – Forensic evidence trumps rumours, theories and romantic tales (http://justice4germans.com/2013/06/17/debunking-the-hitler-escaped-myths-forensic-evidence-trumps-rumours-theories-and-romantic-tales/)

[hoarder]

Just more evidence that you and Hoarder still insisting that Hitler was a crypto-jew zionist who always intentionally planned to LOSE the war is absurd.

:)
Information based. Is it not true that controlled opposition is Jewish modus operandi? Is it not true that Jews benefitted by WW2? Is it not true that not only does the Official Hitler story benefit Jews but your alternate version does as well by alienating "neo-Nazis" from the rest of the goyim?

[Jewboo]

Debunking the “Hitler Escaped” Myths – Forensic evidence trumps rumours, theories and romantic tales (http://justice4germans.com/2013/06/17/debunking-the-hitler-escaped-myths-forensic-evidence-trumps-rumours-theories-and-romantic-tales/)

Conclusion Hitler’s well known dental issues and his custom bridge work were positively identified by his dentist and the dental assistant. The jaw bones found in the Kremlin archives combined with the X-Rays from the Post-Mortem report, which matched these with other images known to be that of Hitler, plus the eye-witness testimony of those who were there prove that Adolf Hitler died in 1945. The evidence is conclusive and there is no “escaping” it.

[Jewboo]

When it became obvious to his generals that they were not only going to lose, but lose due to Hitler's stupidity (intentional) they tried to open channels for surrender. This was not to be allowed. Wolfshanze was perhaps due to this? I am no historian but I have long thought Hitler intentionally lead Germany to ruin. Why wasn't the full might of the Wermacht thrown against London and other targets? The Germans visited nothing upon their enemies such as what their enemies visited upon them (Dresden) and they were ensconced just across the channel. Hitler most likely lived to a ripe old age in Argentina. This would not have been allowed had he not been playing the other side.

In any case, it matters not whether Hitler was a Zionist agent. The damage is done. "By way of deception, so shall we wage war."

See Rubicon's post above. Being wrong about this you might now revisit your idea that Hitler intentionally lost the war...


:)

[midnight rambler]

Debunking the “Hitler Escaped” Myths – Forensic evidence trumps rumours, theories and romantic tales (http://justice4germans.com/2013/06/17/debunking-the-hitler-escaped-myths-forensic-evidence-trumps-rumours-theories-and-romantic-tales/)

One has to ask one's self: Exactly who benefits from the above account of Hitler's demise?

An alternate perspective -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu_mXmS-3ns

[Santa]

Just more evidence that you and Hoarder still insisting that Hitler was a crypto-jew zionist who always intentionally planned to LOSE the war is absurd.

:)


Hoarder's "Cui bono" does make the most reasonable sense, since the vast majority of info available has been propaganda, including recent infotainment spewing out of 4/8chan...which is 99% perversion and sexually/socially deviated garbage. Just the type of shit that helps foment civil wars. And smells about as jewy as anything I can think of.

There's nothing I despise more than emotionally charged propaganda.

[Jewboo]

Hoarder's "Cui bono" does make the most reasonable sense...



Agree with his logic and every divorced man here at GSUS intentionally fucked up his own marriage.

You divorced?

You obviously PLANNED your divorce before the wedding. Just like Hitler intended to lose.

:rolleyes:

[hoarder]

Agree with his logic and every divorced man here at GSUS intentionally fucked up his own marriage.

You divorced?

You obviously PLANNED your divorce before the wedding. Just like Hitler intended to lose.

:rolleyes:
Strawman argument. We don't secretly plan our marriages behind closed doors with the intention of conquering nations. Your marriage-war analogy doesn't get any traction.

All wars are bankers wars. They finance both sides with the intention of improving their position on both sides.

Time for a new avatar, Book.

[singular_me]

believing the version of those behind the nuremberg tribunal is without merit in any case.

aryan/master race vs the chosenites = not seeing the similarity is caused by mind control

[Neuro]

Lacey says these are Hitler's blunders, I say they are his strategy to annihilate Germans, in preference of his own Jewish background.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post572306 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63370-Adolf-Hitler-The-greatest-story-NEVER-told!&p=572306&viewfull=1#post572306)

Declares War on the United States
(http://www.historynet.com/hitlers-greatest-blunders.htm)
On December 8, 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt went before Congress and asked for a declaration of war against Japan. Germany was never mentioned. There was little popular support to expand the war; unless Hitler made some gesture of monumental stupidity, the United States at the time had no official reason to declare war on Germany. British and American strategists were frustrated. They had always presumed that once the United States entered the war, defeating Germany would take priority over Japan. But now it appeared America would take on Japan first while Great Britain fought alone against Germany.

Fortunately for them, four days after Pearl Harbor, Hitler committed one of the most monumental blunders in history. While President Roosevelt needed 517 words to declare war and doom Japan, when Hitler went before the Reichstag he required just 334 to seal the fate of the Third Reich.

In the final month of 1941, a perceptive observer may have noticed the first glimmers of hope for the Allied cause, as German prospects took a turn for the worse. Britain was not only unbowed, it was actively counterattacking wherever possible. More worrying for the Germans was the Soviet counterattack in front of Moscow, where fresh Siberian divisions were tearing at the Wehrmacht's Army Group Center.

Despite these rapidly darkening skies, Hitler, upon hearing news of Pearl Harbor, left his Prussian headquarters—where he had gone to personally deal with the Russian winter offensive—and rushed to Berlin. On December 11, he went before the Reichstag to declare war on the United States. It was an act of suicidal hubris. Although Germany was already locked in a war against Great Britain and the Soviet Union, Hitler, when presented with the opportunity to declare war against a nation capable of producing as many munitions in one year as Germany could in five, did not hesitate or flinch. It was not his first serious blunder, nor his last. It was, however, his most colossal.

Why did he do it? This question has long puzzled historians. Hitler was certainly aware of America's production potential, for he had written about it in Mein Kampf. The simplest answer is that despite this knowledge, he remained unimpressed with American military potential. In 1940, he had told Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov that the United States would not be a threat to Germany for decades—"1970 or 1980 at the earliest." Moreover, Hitler had always believed that war with the United States was inevitable. For him, it was better to have that war at a time of his choosing, and when he could count on Japan siphoning off significant amounts of American power. So Germany, for the second time in a generation, found itself in a two-front war against the combined might of the world's greatest economic powers.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post572320 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63370-Adolf-Hitler-The-greatest-story-NEVER-told!&p=572320&viewfull=1#post572320)

Issues Halt Order at Dunkirk
(http://www.historynet.com/hitlers-greatest-blunders.htm)
Still, there was one brief moment when Hitler had it within his power to win the war on one front and remove both France and Britain from his list of antagonists. It had come more than a year and a half earlier, on the coast of northern France. On May 10, 1940, German spearheads brushed aside light resistance in the Ardennes Forest before smashing through the French defensive line at Sedan. Slashing across France, General Heinz Guderian's panzers entered Abbeville, 20 miles from the English Channel, a mere 10 days later. The French army, cut in half and thrown off balance, never recovered its equilibrium.

But even as the Wehrmacht was finishing off France, Hitler's next actions guaranteed the survival of another of his foes, the British Expeditionary Force (BEF), thereby presenting his most committed opponent, Winston Churchill, with a gift of inestimable value: an army with which to continue the struggle.

On May 23, the leading panzer units were only 18 miles from the port at Dunkirk, closer to it than most British units. Although the German troops were exhausted from two weeks of continuous marching and fighting, local commanders judged that they could easily capture the port, and thereby trap the British Army in France. Sensing that a crushing victory was near, Wehrmacht commander in chief Walter von Brauchitsch ordered the city taken. But just before the tanks went forward, Hitler issued his infamous "halt order," stopping them outside Dunkirk.

He never mentioned his rationale for the order; guesses include Hermann Göring's assurance that the Luftwaffe could complete the destruction of the BEF, and Hitler's reluctance to risk his valuable panzers in the unfriendly marsh terrain of neighboring Flanders. Whatever the reason, the halt gave the British two precious days to solidify their defenses around Dunkirk, permitting them to carry out the most famous sealift of modern history. In that end, the Royal Navy, assisted by some French warships and a flotilla of 800 private vessels, pulled 338,226 troops off the beaches at Dunkirk, including 118,000 French, Belgian, and Dutch soldiers. These rescued men provided a veteran core around which Britain rebuilt its army.

Overlooks U-boats' Potential

With the Royal Navy protecting the English Channel and the Royal Air Force denying air dominance to the Luftwaffe, England was safe from invasion. Still, Hitler had one weapon that could take Britain out of the war: the U-boat. In 1917, U-boats came close to bringing Britain to its knees. Despite this, Hitler was slow to see their value. If, during the second half of the 1930s, he had taken the resources wasted on the construction of an almost useless surface fleet and instead applied them to the construction of U-boats, Germany could have started the war with hundreds of these silent killers, rather than 57.

Even with their paucity of numbers, the U-boats came within a hair's breadth of knocking Britain out of the war. By the middle of 1940, Germany had only 25 U-boats left in service. Still, they managed to sink close to 700,000 tons of Allied shipping by the end of the year, or over 225 merchant ships. Despite that success, it was not until February 1941 that Hitler issued Führer Directive 23, ordering a crash program of U-boat production.

Germany went on to build more than 1,100 U-boats during the war, with over 450 still in service in 1945. By early 1943, the U-boats had Britain in desperate straits, and winning the Battle of the Atlantic became the Allies' top priority. Then, in March 1943—almost imperceptibly at first—the tide started to turn. A combination of better tactics, new antisubmarine technology, and a broken German naval code turned the North Atlantic into a submarine graveyard.

U-boats continued sinking Allied ships until the end of the war, but their own losses were unacceptably high. In the end, Germany lost almost 800 U-boats and some 30,000 crewmen. Although they sank close to 14 million tons of Allied shipping, that impressive total was overwhelmed by the nearly 40 million tons of additional shipping the United States alone built during the war. Considering that the entire British merchant fleet in 1940 was less than 18 million tons, it is clear that if Germany had started the war with as many U-boats as it ended with, Britain could not have survived long.

Opens Vast Second Front

But Britain did survive, and was still defiant when Hitler made a blunder second only in folly to his gratuitous declaration of war against the United States: the launch of Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941.

Slightly more than two decades had passed since Germany had last launched a two-front war—and suffered devastating consequences. It therefore took a stunning level of strategic incompetence on Hitler's part to initiate a war in the East when the outcome in the West was still at issue. Tenacity, coupled with flashes of tactical and operational brilliance, kept the German army in the field for four bloody years. And once again, the German military almost made good on Hitler's gamble. But such martial attributes were insufficient to overcome the fundamental strategic mistake that placed them deep into Russia to begin with. It took a number of additional blunders on Hitler's part to crush German hopes of a Drang Nach Osten—"Drive to the East."

Fails to Take Moscow

The first of those blunders came soon after Operation Barbarossa was launched. From the outset, Hitler's military leaders knew that speed was of the essence: they were after a quick contest, not a protracted war. And their initial prospects of winning that race against time were promising: after smashing through the Soviet forward divisions, Army Group Center won a hard-fought battle at Smolensk. At its conclusion, more than 200,000 Soviet prisoners were marched into already overcrowded holding pens, and the road to Moscow was laid bare. Now was the time for a strong, direct thrust at the Soviet capital.

More than just a political objective, Moscow was the nerve center for the Communist Party, a major industrial center, and, most important, the nexus for almost every major rail line in the Soviet Union; if Moscow fell, lateral movement of Soviet forces would become impossible. Moreover, the defeat of Moscow would help cut western Russia off from the eastern armies, which were already beginning their move to the city's aid. In 1812, Russia could give up Moscow to Napoleon and suffer few military consequences. Losing Moscow in 1940 would have been catastrophic to the Soviet cause.

But then Hitler shifted Germany's strategic emphasis: rather than send his forces on to Moscow, at the end of August Hitler ordered General Heinz Guderian to take his Second Panzer Army south to assist the slow-moving Army Group South. By way of explanation, he pointed to the natural resources of the Ukraine and the oil in the Caucasus, both of which he saw as vital to the German war effort. When his generals persisted in protesting this shift in strategy, Hitler exclaimed, "My generals know nothing of economics!" Reluctantly, Guderian took his panzers south, netting another 600,000 prisoners in the Kiev pocket. It was the greatest tactical victory of war, but it was not without cost.

When the advance on Moscow—Operation Typhoon—was renewed on October 2, a precious month had been lost. A combination of stubborn Russian resistance, German overextension, and abysmal weather soon stalled the German offensive just short of its ultimate objective. In late November, when Typhoon was called off, lead German elements were less than 20 miles from Moscow. Only two weeks later, the Russians launched a crippling winter counteroffensive. Unlike Napoleon's Grande Armée, which was shredded after its victory by both the Russians and the winter, Army Group Center did not disintegrate. It did, however, suffer horrific losses and was never again in a position to threaten Moscow. Hitler's chance for a quick and decisive outcome in the East dissolved.


Overvalues Stalingrad as a Target

All hope for victory was not lost, however. In the spring and summer of 1942, a restored Wehrmacht launched a new offensive to secure the Caucasus oil fields. It was at this point that Hitler made a series of misjudgments that doomed a German field army and had dire effects on the overall war effort.

After chastising his generals about Moscow being a mere political target of little military consequence, Hitler, remarkably, allowed himself to be drawn into a battle of prestige for control of Stalingrad. Instead of focusing on the oil fields, he divided his force, sending one to head south toward Baku, the other to take Stalingrad. It was a battle he waged ferociously, long after the city had lost any military utility. Division after division was fed into the Stalingrad maelstrom, where whole battalions were virtually obliterated 24 hours after their commitment. For almost three months, the German Sixth Army pounded at the city until only a small sliver remained in Soviet hands.

Myopically focused on capturing the city named for his mortal enemy, Hitler took no notice of the buildup of Soviet reserves on Sixth Army's weakly held flanks. When the Soviets launched an attack to encircle Sixth Army—Operation Uranus—in mid-November, they quickly shattered first the Romanian and later the Italian and Hungarian armies flanking the city. Two days later, Soviet pincers met at the nearby town of Kalach, entrapping the Sixth Army. For several months the doomed army slowly starved, before finally surrendering on February 2, 1943.

Hitler's maniacal insistence on seizing and holding Stalingrad had cost over 750,000 causalities, and the loss of an irreplaceable field army. It was, up to that point, the greatest single disaster the German army endured.

Gambles All at Kursk

Eventually, the Soviet Stalingrad offensive petered out, and the Germans were given breathing space to consolidate a new defensive line and restore their depleted forces. If they were to have any chance of negotiating a favorable peace, now was the time to fortify in depth, build mobile strike forces for counterattacks—such as Erich von Manstein's successful counteroffensive at Kharkov in February–March 1943—and husband their strength to meet the next Soviet offensive.

Instead, Hitler became fixated on a massive summer offensive aimed at an enormous bulge in the Soviet line around the city of Kursk. Ordering simultaneous thrusts from the north and south, he hoped to trap the Soviet forces within the bulge, or salient, and to tear a gap in their line, allowing the offensive to continue to the east.

If it was the Battle of Stalingrad that decided Hitler would not win the war, it was the Battle of Kursk that decided he would lose it. Aware of the massive preparations the Russians were making around Kursk, many German generals were reluctant to attack; even Hitler had doubts, admitting that the thought of the attack made him feel ill. Despite his foreboding, Hitler eventually ordered it to go forward.
It is a testament to German tactical ability that for 10 days the Wehrmacht pushed doggedly ahead. And for one brief moment, it even seemed as if the horrific losses inflicted upon them would not be in vain. The final defensive belt was breached and the armor of the Fourth Panzer Army massed for the final push. It was at this moment that the Russian commander, General Georgi Zhukov, unveiled his final surprise. The Soviet reserve, comprising the 5th Guards Tank Army, was ordered forward to seal the breech. Near the village of Prokhorovka, the Soviet tanks collided headlong with the onrushing Germans. In what became known as the "Death Ride of the Fourth Panzer Army," both sides fought a close-quarters knife fight with tanks. When it was over, German offensive power in the east was extinguished. The panzer divisions, reconstituted at great cost in the first half of 1943, were shattered. With them went Hitler's hopes of victory.


Reinforces Afrika Korps Too Late

Even as the Germans plodded forward at Kursk, Allied forces were landing at Sicily. That they were able to make relatively short work of the island's defenses and follow up with a rapid invasion of the Italian mainland can be attributed to another of Hitler's blunders. Since early 1941, Hitler had allowed the commander of German forces in North Africa, Erwin Rommel, to conduct an economy-of-force operation there. For two years, Hitler's reluctance to commit more than a trifling amount of troops to the North African sideshow forced Rommel to make his reputation by fighting and generally winning despite being heavily outnumbered.

It was only after the Battle of El Alamein was finally lost, and in the wake of the successful Allied landing in western North Africa—both in early November 1942—that Hitler suddenly decided to massively reinforce Rommel's army. Tens of thousands of German troops were flown and shipped into Tunisia in a forlorn attempt to keep a toehold in North Africa. Hitler's decision came long after all hope of victory had vanished, and had predictable results. Approximately 230,000 Axis troops surrendered at Tunis in May 1943, including most of Rommel's legendary Afrika Korps. These veterans were desperately needed and sorely missed in the contest for Northern Europe.

Hesitates at Normandy

By early 1944, it was apparent to the German general staff and even Hitler that the final contest for control of Northern Europe was not going to be delayed much longer, and that the Allies would soon attempt a Channel crossing. In one of his flashes of intuition, Hitler predicted that the invasion would come at Normandy. Unfortunately for German military planners, he did not have the courage of his convictions. When the Allies actually landed at Normandy, Hitler suspected it was a deception and that their real target was northeast of there, in the Pas-de-Calais region. The upshot for the Allies was that 19 nearby German divisions, including six powerful panzer divisions, spent D-Day idle. Their early commitment to Normandy would have made the Allied beaches a living hell, and might even have thrown the invasion back into the sea. Over the succeeding weeks, Hitler became ever more convinced that the Normandy invasion was a ruse, and it was not until the end of July that he finally approved the movement of a single division from Fifteenth Army, which was guarding the coast near Pas-de-Calais. Once again, it was too late. By the time reinforcing divisions arrived, the German line was hanging by a thread.

In a further blunder on Hitler's part, he had ordered the Normandy front held at all cost. This ensured that when his forces inevitably did give way, the surviving skeleton formations would be incapable of conducting mobile operations or making a stand much short of the defensive fortifications along Germany's western prewar borders.


Issues Prophetic 'Stand and Die' Order

But Hitler's "stand and die" orders had more fateful consequences on the Eastern Front.

Timed to closely coincide with the Allied invasion of Normandy, Stalin had ordered Operation Bagration—the destruction of Germany's Army Group Center—to commence on June 22, 1944, the anniversary of Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union. Prior to the Soviet attack, Hitler's generals advised him to pull back the army—then trying to hold the city of Minsk—to shorter and more defensible positions, so as to let the offensive hit empty space. Failing to persuade him of the necessity of moving out of the way of the Soviet juggernaut, they begged for permission to establish a defense in depth.

Instead, Hitler ordered most of his forces to hold in their forward positions and countenanced no requests for withdrawal, no matter how desperate the situation. The result was calamitous. In one month's fighting the Soviets obliterated Army Group Center, annihilating 20 divisions in the opening weeks of the offensive—almost as many as the Allies were fighting in Normandy. Only exhaustion brought the Soviet horde to a halt on the Vistula River, across from Warsaw. There they restored their strength and prepared their next big move, into the Reich itself.

Loses Second Gamble at the Ardennes

There was, however, a decent probability that Hitler could have spared East Germany almost two generations of Soviet occupation, if not for his next major misstep. By the end of 1944, Allied armies were poised to enter Germany from both the east and west. Through a maximum effort, the Wehrmacht managed to refit several of its panzer divisions and build a mobile reserve with which to meet the onslaught. The refitted armored formations fell far short of what Germany required to turn the tide of the war. But if these divisions had been deployed to the Eastern Front, they could have held off the Russians just long enough for the Western Allies to advance and occupy most of Germany.

Of course, such thinking never concerned Hitler. Instead, he launched his armor that December at a weak sector of the American front—in the Ardennes Forest—in what has become famous as the Battle of the Bulge. Attacking through the Ardennes was a forlorn hope and doomed from the start. It might delay the Allies, but it had no real chance of reenacting the glorious advance of 1940, which had driven over the same ground. All Hitler gained was a foothold in Belgium that could not be sustained. For that he squandered the bulk of his mobile forces and, with them, Germany's last hope of salvaging something from the disaster about to envelop it.

In the end, it's striking that despite blunder after blunder, Germany resisted the combined might of the world's greatest powers for almost half a decade. This is a testament to the operational capabilities of the German army, which demonstrated remarkable recuperative powers throughout the war. Even as late as 1945, the battered Wehrmacht proved capable of lashing out viciously at its tormentors, inflicting more than two battle losses for every one sustained in the war's final months. But it was all in vain. Prowess on the battlefield could not overcome incompetence at the top. Nor could it erase the fact that the Wehrmacht's vaunted fighting capabilities were harnessed to a vile cause. Humanity should remain forever thankful that that cause was led by one of history's greatest military blunderers.



Jim Lacey is the Professor of War, Policy, and Strategy at the Marine War College. A former U.S. Army infantry officer, he is the author of several books on military history, including the forthcoming First Clash on the Battle of Marathon and Keep From All Thoughtful Men on World War II strategy.
One can't close ones eyes to this, my take is that Hitler really was a pisspoor strategist in war, who let emotion overtake cool rational thinking. Stalingrad is his greatest mistake, and probably the main reason for it was the fact that it was named Stalingrad, it made it an important trophy, instead of taking and holding the strategically important oil fields of Baku. I have also entertained the thought that he may have played the other, the Zionist side, but I don't think it is likely. He was far to an inspiring anti-Zionist/Bolshevik for the German People fighting the war for that to be likely. I do think it was this spirit that kept Germany alive for as long as it did, despite his strategic blunders.

Roosevelt (Rosenfeldt) was intent on starting a war on Germany no matter what, he was sending armaments and food to Britain and Soviet Union en masse well before Germany declared war on USA, and the war declaration on Germany would have happened anyway well before D-day, no matter if Germany had declared war on US in 1941 or not. In 1941-3 the American impact on the war in Europe was negligible so I don't think Hitlers war declaration had much impact then in a strategic sense.

I think the early German victories went to his head, combined with his documented drug abuse as the war continued, and the cult around him made him feel he couldn't do anything wrong because no one dared to question his decisions. It is clear though that he could have won the war, without the strategic mistakes, and no doubt white people and the world as a whole would have been better off.

Talmudism has reigned supreme for the last 70 years and now we are on the brink of WWIII.

[Bigjon]

The Brits were never any real threat. All they did was to bomb Germany, mostly after it had surrendered. If anything Hitlers actions at Dunkirk shows him to be the most righteous of the parties involved in WW2... Besides they did capture all the equipment, all they did was to let badly trained Brits return home, slowly but surely.

Dunkirk at best shows Hitler was an imbecile.
If Hitler really wanted to take down the Jews, he would have liberated the English people from this scourge of mankind.
It was common knowledge that the City of London was the Jews creation and center of their power, even Hitler knew that.
Taking England would have effectively removed America from the war, as there would be no nearby staging area to carry out war from. Carrying on a war from the other side of the Atlantic ocean and having no place to land pretty much eliminates America and besides at that time there were far more German Americans than English Americans, who wanted nothing to do with their stupid war.
The English bombing campaign was devastating to Germany, killing millions of civilians. An occupied England was the only strategy that would allow Germany to win the war.

[Jewboo]

One can't close ones eyes to this, my take is that Hitler really was a pisspoor strategist in war, who let emotion overtake cool rational thinking. Stalingrad is his greatest mistake, and probably the main reason for it was the fact that it was named Stalingrad, it made it an important trophy, instead of taking and holding the strategically important oil fields of Baku. I have also entertained the thought that he may have played the other, the Zionist side, but I don't think it is likely. He was far to an inspiring anti-Zionist/Bolshevik for the German People fighting the war for that to be likely. I do think it was this spirit that kept Germany alive for as long as it did, despite his strategic blunders.

Roosevelt (Rosenfeldt) was intent on starting a war on Germany no matter what, he was sending armaments and food to Britain and Soviet Union en masse well before Germany declared war on USA, and the war declaration on Germany would have happened anyway well before D-day, no matter if Germany had declared war on US in 1941 or not. In 1941-3 the American impact on the war in Europe was negligible so I don't think Hitlers war declaration had much impact then in a strategic sense.

I think the early German victories went to his head, combined with his documented drug abuse as the war continued, and the cult around him made him feel he couldn't do anything wrong because no one dared to question his decisions. It is clear though that he could have won the war, without the strategic mistakes, and no doubt white people and the world as a whole would have been better off.

Talmudism has reigned supreme for the last 70 years and now we are on the brink of WWIII.

Good summary of what really happened.

[singular_me]

you mean that hitler was a complete idiot for ignoring what happened to napoleon, that russia and britain got together to defeat him?

nobody will defeat the masonic-zionists by war. Thinking otherwise is ludicrous. Hitler knew it






One can't close ones eyes to this, my take is that Hitler really was a pisspoor strategist in war, who let emotion overtake cool rational thinking. Stalingrad is his greatest mistake, and probably the main reason for it was the fact that it was named Stalingrad, it made it an important trophy, instead of taking and holding the strategically important oil fields of Baku.


talmudism has reiigned supreme for the last 70 years and now we are on the brink of WWIII.

[Santa]

Agree with his logic and every divorced man here at GSUS intentionally fucked up his own marriage.

You divorced?

You obviously PLANNED your divorce before the wedding. Just like Hitler intended to lose.

:rolleyes:


Lol...following an ad hominem ("Hoarder is absurd") with a strawman isn't helping your position.

My position is that Hitler, just as practically every other war time politician in written history, was a tool, a useful scapegoat.

[Jewboo]

The Brits were never any real threat. All they did was to bomb Germany, mostly after it had surrendered. If anything Hitlers actions at Dunkirk shows him to be the most righteous of the parties involved in WW2... Besides they did capture all the equipment, all they did was to let badly trained Brits return home, slowly but surely.

Agreed. But using Hoarder Logic it was "good for the jews" that Hitler didn't slaughter those trapped White goyim at Dunkirk.






:rolleyes: Cui bono letting the trapped goyim escape Hoarder?

[Jewboo]

My position is that Hitler, just as practically every other war time politician in written history, was a tool, a useful scapegoat.



No. Your position is that Hitler was a secret crypto-jew zionist who intentionally lost the war to destroy his own Germany.....if you agree with Hoarder.

:rolleyes: stick with the script

[Neuro]

nobody will defeat the masonic-zionists by war

Hence you work for them.

[Bigjon]

One can't close ones eyes to this, my take is that Hitler really was a pisspoor strategist in war, who let emotion overtake cool rational thinking. Stalingrad is his greatest mistake, and probably the main reason for it was the fact that it was named Stalingrad, it made it an important trophy, instead of taking and holding the strategically important oil fields of Baku. I have also entertained the thought that he may have played the other, the Zionist side, but I don't think it is likely. He was far to an inspiring anti-Zionist/Bolshevik for the German People fighting the war for that to be likely. I do think it was this spirit that kept Germany alive for as long as it did, despite his strategic blunders.

Roosevelt (Rosenfeldt) was intent on starting a war on Germany no matter what, he was sending armaments and food to Britain and Soviet Union en masse well before Germany declared war on USA, and the war declaration on Germany would have happened anyway well before D-day, no matter if Germany had declared war on US in 1941 or not. In 1941-3 the American impact on the war in Europe was negligible so I don't think Hitlers war declaration had much impact then in a strategic sense.

I think the early German victories went to his head, combined with his documented drug abuse as the war continued, and the cult around him made him feel he couldn't do anything wrong because no one dared to question his decisions. It is clear though that he could have won the war, without the strategic mistakes, and no doubt white people and the world as a whole would have been better off.

Talmudism has reigned supreme for the last 70 years and now we are on the brink of WWIII.

Put up a strawman and then knock it down. Acknowledge all of Hitlers ways he sabotaged Germany's war effort and then proceed to ignore those ways.

Like I said taking England was the key piece to victory in WWII. No Jewish controlled England and No America was the recipe for German victory. No two front war.

I do think that it's possible Hitler thought he had an agreement with English aristocracy, but the power in England is Jewish and not the aristocracy.

[Santa]

No. Your position is that Hitler was a secret crypto-jew zionist who intentionally lost the war to destroy his own Germany.....if you agree with Hoarder.

:rolleyes: stick with the script


Just because I agree with cui bono does not mean I agree with Hoarder on every detail. By the way, you're making another ad hominem/strawman argument.
The script is actually about Patton's position, not Hoarder's. You have the bad habit of using bad rhetoric in your arguments. It does you no favors.
You need to grow up. Hoarder isn't your enemy. Why turn him into one...hmmm.

[singular_me]

Hence you work for them.

nope, anybody not seeing that all sides of the war are controlled, means that getting into it comes down to being a kamikaze

I already stated my stance. We the people will have to take action. relying on politicians is immature. And in my view, completely disengaging from the matrix has more chance of success. War is "their" game, why going along with it?

[Neuro]

Put up a strawman and then knock it down. Acknowledge all of Hitlers ways he sabotaged Germany's war effort and then proceed to ignore those ways.

Like I said taking England was the key piece to victory in WWII. No Jewish controlled England and No America was the recipe for German victory. No two front war.

I do think that it's possible Hitler thought he had an agreement with English aristocracy, but the power in England is Jewish and not the aristocracy.
I didn't ignore the ways he 'sabotaged' the war effort. I just think it was unintentional. As I said without Hitlers inspiration of ordinary Germans to outdo themselves in the war, the war would have been lost several years before, without his strategic mistakes combined with his inspiration they would have won. He let the troops be in Dunkirk because he thought he could negotiate a peace with England, precisely because he didn't want a two front war. He knew that the Bolsheviks were the greatest enemy and that war was inevitable with them. Thus he let the troops in Dunkirk off the hook. He did overestimate the power of Royalty and aristocracy in UK vs the Jews.

The Brits didn't create any significant problems for Germany on the continent for about 3-4 years following Dunkirk, but if he had decided to invade Britain, with the very significant man power required for that operation, what are the odds do you think that Stalin would have attacked from Poland? Pretty high I would think!

He really messed up the strategy on the Eastern front. Had he focused on taking Moscow and Baku and with that the fall of Soviet Union, instead of delaying the offensive to save his Italian allies in Greece, and the unrest in Balkans, together with the silly attempt of taking Stalingrad at any cost. Soviet Union would have fallen 1942-3 sometime, and more sober sentiments/people would have taken over Britain and a peace would have been negotiated with England ceding her colonies.

The rapid victories in continental Europe initially made him overestimate the strength of the German soldier and thus he took on too much in the Eastern campaign.

He was just a human, and like all humans he had his weaknesses, it doesn't mean he intended to lose the war.

[Jewboo]

Just because I agree with cui bono does not mean I agree with Hoarder on every detail...Hoarder isn't your enemy. Why turn him into one...hmmm.



Me and Hoarder know each other in the real world and have remained friends since GIM1. Hitler is our only disagreement after all these years.



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Goy Hitler Bashers





:rolleyes:cui bono when Hoarder bashes Hitler?

[hoarder]

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cui bono when Hoarder bashes Hitler?You answer that.

Do any Neo-Nazis suddenly love Jews when they discover that Hitler was controlled opposition? No.

Do Jews benefit when We isolate ourselves from the rest of the goyim by wearing Swastikas and going around giving each other Heil Hitler salutes? Yes.

[Shami-Amourae]

Do Jews benefit when We isolate ourselves from the rest of the goyim by wearing Swastikas and going around giving each other Heil Hitler salutes? Yes.

Red-pilling people on Hitler has the same effect as red-pilling people on 9/11.

Once they find out the truth about either they start to question everything.

[Jewboo]

You answer that.

Do any Neo-Nazis suddenly love Jews when they discover that Hitler was controlled opposition? No.

Do Jews benefit when We isolate ourselves from the rest of the goyim by wearing Swastikas and going around giving each other Heil Hitler salutes? Yes.



http://www.allmystery.de/i/t74e27c_1386010418735.jpg


Apparently you watched so much jew teevee you don't know what a National Socialist really is.

:)

[hoarder]

Is it about red-pilling them or getting them to swallow the truth? They have already been heavily conditioned with anti-Nazi propaganda, so they need to be fed the most palatable truth. Tell them your/Book's version of Hitler and you'll never get a pill in their mouths.

Trying to get the goyim to jump the highest hurdle is not good strategy, especially when it's not even true.

[hoarder]

http://www.allmystery.de/i/t74e27c_1386010418735.jpg


Apparently you watched so much jew teevee you don't know what a National Socialist really is.

:)Who do you think created that group on the right and why?

You will never separate the two groups in their minds.

[Shami-Amourae]

Is it about red-pilling them or getting them to swallow the truth? They have already been heavily conditioned with anti-Nazi propaganda, so they need to be fed the most palatable truth. Tell them your/Book's version of Hitler and you'll never get a pill in their mouths.

Trying to get the goyim to jump the highest hurdle is not good strategy, especially when it's not even true.

I wouldn't recommend doing the National Socialist stuff on the public, but it's good here since people here are searching for the truth, and not commoners.

It's like if you walked up to someone on the street and started talking about Chemtrails. They'll think you're nuts. We can talk about stuff like that freely here since people here are searching for the truth.

[hoarder]

I wouldn't recommend doing the National Socialist stuff on the public, but it's good here since people here are searching for the truth, and not commoners.

It's like if you walked up to someone on the street and started talking about Chemtrails. They'll think you're nuts. We can talk about stuff like that freely here since people here are searching for the truth.Good answer. But if you realize that Nazi stuff turns people off and closes their minds, you also realize that Jews want us to do whatever turns other goyim off.

[Shami-Amourae]

Good answer. But if you realize that Nazi stuff turns people off and closes their minds, you also realize that Jews want us to do whatever turns other goyim off.

I use it selectively. I pretty much only do it here and on 4/8Chan.

[Jewboo]

Who do you think created that group on the right and why?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cx5YSp-ghS8/TUxM12VylYI/AAAAAAAAKcs/sa_XYJM_nkU/s1600/Frank+Collin+Nazi.jpg

His real name is Joseph Cohen (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Collins), born on Nov 3,1944 in Chicago, conceived in Feb of 1943 in Dachau (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Cohen) concentration camp (According to his father).

Collin, and his SS Brigade (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/ffraasan8.jpg) of four, leave the spotlight until police are called to the Furhrer's headquarters. Police, fearing a gun battle, aren't prepared for what they find.

Collins is on his knees (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Collins), and some 10 yr old 'Hitler youth' employees are standing there with their lederhosen down to their ankles (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Molestor-Prison).

Collins is sentenced to seven yrs in prison (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Collins).

Read more here: http://www.americanussr.com/nazi-leaders-jewish.htm

[Jewboo]

You will never separate the two groups in their minds.

http://www.allmystery.de/i/t74e27c_1386010418735.jpg

I just did in your mind.


:)

[hoarder]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cx5YSp-ghS8/TUxM12VylYI/AAAAAAAAKcs/sa_XYJM_nkU/s1600/Frank+Collin+Nazi.jpg

His real name is Joseph Cohen (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Collins), born on Nov 3,1944 in Chicago, conceived in Feb of 1943 in Dachau (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Cohen) concentration camp (According to his father).

Collin, and his SS Brigade (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/ffraasan8.jpg) of four, leave the spotlight until police are called to the Furhrer's headquarters. Police, fearing a gun battle, aren't prepared for what they find.

Collins is on his knees (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Collins), and some 10 yr old 'Hitler youth' employees are standing there with their lederhosen down to their ankles (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Molestor-Prison).

Collins is sentenced to seven yrs in prison (http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/%7Egbpprorg/judicial-inc/fraank_collins_supplement.htm#Collins).

Read more here: http://www.americanussr.com/nazi-leaders-jewish.htmI was just going to post that for your benefit in understanding controlled opposition.


http://www.allmystery.de/i/t74e27c_1386010418735.jpg

I just did in your mind.


:)We're not trying to reach people at our own level of understanding.

[Jewboo]

I was just going to post that for your benefit in understanding controlled opposition. We're not trying to reach people at our own level of understanding.



I'm still trying to reach you and improve your understanding of Hitler.


:D After all these years since GIM1.

[hoarder]

I'm still trying to reach you and improve your understanding of Hitler.


:D After all these years since GIM1.Frank Collin....Adolph Hitler.......same category. Only difference Hitler was smarter.

[Jewboo]

Frank Collin....Adolph Hitler.......same category. Only difference Hitler was smarter.

Probably our fifth Hitler debate and this is what you conclude for the forum archive.

















:( I'll send you another copy of Mein Kampf...lol

[Santa]

Me and Hoarder know each other in the real world and have remained friends since GIM1. Hitler is our only disagreement after all these years.



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Goy Hitler Bashers





:rolleyes:cui bono when Hoarder bashes Hitler?

Ok, but if I discover you or Hoarder are playing me, I'm gonna get up and throw my walker through the sliding glass door. Lol...

[woodman]

Only difference Hitler was smarter.

If one reads a very little of what Hitler wrote, it becomes clear; The man was no dolt at reasoning, unless others ghosted his work. Here's the rub: The blunders were too elementary to be blunders at all. He seamlessly led the German people to the brink of tribal death and they have been hovering in purgatory ever since.

He whispered sweet nothings to the German people and lead them down the garden path to ruin. It makes no difference if you believe he was an agent of Rothschild or not, in the end he was the worst enemy Germany had. In any case, to idolize him is immature. It reminds me of Antonio (Occam's Razor) and his childish admiration of Stalin. These are simply men who through luck, skill and determination, happened to be in control of vast human forces but in the end they were probably more flawed than even their detractors claim. It is their very twisted natures that enabled them to climb such heights or be propelled to them by the schemers.

In the end Hitler either proved himself a weakling, unable to use his forces to effect a positive outcome for Germany or he was a traitor. Take your pick.

[Jewboo]

If one reads a very little of what Hitler wrote, it becomes clear; The man was no dolt at reasoning, unless others ghosted his work. Here's the rub: The blunders were too elementary to be blunders at all. He seamlessly led the German people to the brink of tribal death and they have been hovering in purgatory ever since.

He whispered sweet nothings to the German people and lead them down the garden path to ruin. It makes no difference if you believe he was an agent of Rothschild or not, in the end he was the worst enemy Germany had. In any case, to idolize him is immature. It reminds me of Antonio (Occam's Razor) and his childish admiration of Stalin. These are simply men who through luck, skill and determination, happened to be in control of vast human forces but in the end they were probably more flawed than even their detractors claim. It is their very twisted natures that enabled them to climb such heights or be propelled to them by the schemers.

In the end Hitler either proved himself a weakling, unable to use his forces to effect a positive outcome for Germany or he was a traitor. Take your pick.



http://jesuschristblog.blog.com/files/2011/03/enemy4.jpg


I'm not being flippant here in asking if we can logically say the same about the people who follow Jesus? Turn the other cheek and love thy enemy is, by definition, now leading Christians to the brink of tribal death in Modern Europe at the hands of invading Muslims.

[7th trump]

Does anybody here know what the word "Nazi" means?

[Shami-Amourae]

Does anybody here know what the word "Nazi" means?

http://s11.postimg.org/ont8ryxur/1432808496705.jpg

[Rubicon]

Does anybody here know what the word "Nazi" means?

Exposing the “Nazi” Epithet – Who started it, why, how, and who benefits (http://justice4germans.com/2013/04/16/exposing-the-nazi-epithet-who-started-it-why-how-and-who-benefits/)

Exposing the ‘Nazi’ Epithet Part 2 (http://justice4germans.com/2013/09/27/exposing-the-nazi-epithet-part-2-anti-hitlerism-the-rise-of-pure-bs-and-hatred/)

[Shami-Amourae]

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[hoarder]

http://s11.postimg.org/ont8ryxur/1432808496705.jpgThat was for the goyim to believe. Germans spell socialism "Sozialismus". The Nazi party was run by AshkeNAZIs, just like every party here in the US.

[Shami-Amourae]

http://s21.postimg.org/y7ctbxz3b/1447209568624.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[mick silver]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/ISIS-320x320.jpg

[PatColo]

Sorry haven't read all this thread,, but did it come up how Patton was murdered? Car crash which he should've survived and did; but he got offed in the hospital afterwards,
Doctors'.plot.pdf (http://iamthewitness.com/books/Doctors%27.plot.pdf)
wiki: "Doctors' Plot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot)"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMniFQCyqTg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMniFQCyqTg

[Joshua01]

Sorry haven't read all this thread,, but did it come up how Patton was murdered? Car crash which he should've survived and did; but he got offed in the hospital afterwards,
Doctors'.plot.pdf (http://iamthewitness.com/books/Doctors%27.plot.pdf)
wiki: "Doctors' Plot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot)"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMniFQCyqTg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMniFQCyqTg


The more I uncover the more the Joos appear to be the primary driver for all that's bad in today's world.

[Shami-Amourae]

The more I uncover the more the Jews appear to be the primary driver for all that's bad in today's world.


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[woodman]

http://jesuschristblog.blog.com/files/2011/03/enemy4.jpg


I'm not being flippant here in asking if we can logically say the same about the people who follow Jesus? Turn the other cheek and love thy enemy is, by definition, now leading Christians to the brink of tribal death in Modern Europe at the hands of invading Muslims.



Absolutely. It is interesting how the Christians seem to hasten their own demise by being so incredibly gullible. I don't know for sure but I would say "turn the other cheek." is simply a way of saying 'don't escalate things by 'needless' retaliation.' Love thy enemy? Sure, give them a one way ticket to the afterlife.

[Tumbleweed]

This is pretty much how I see it.


http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/nopacifism.html (http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/nopacifism.html)




THERE IS NO PACIFISM IN THE BIBLE

By

The late Revd Bertrand L Comparet, AB., J.D.(USA)

IT IS reported that a Hindu recently undertook to rebuke all the Christian nations, by asking "How can you reconcile Jesus' doctrine of non-resistance with your military armament, and with the wars you fight from time to time? Which of you will retum good for evil?" In speaking thus, the Hindu smugly gloated over what he thought was an inconsistency between our religion and our national conduct. Unfortunately, there are even some Christians who are so ignorant of their own religion that they become embarrassed at such accusations, and feel that we must be guilty of inconsistency, even of wrongdoing. The Hindus' ignorance we can forgive, as he knows nothing of our religion beyond a few phrases quoted out of context; but it is time for Christians to learn more about what they claim as their own religion. We could ask the Hindu, in return, how he can reconcile Premier Nehru's aggressive attack upon Portuguese Goa, which Portugal has held since the year 1510 - how can he reconcile this aggressive warfare with Nehru's lofty proclamations of his devotion to peace - that is, whenever "peace" consists of, leaving White Men in slavery.



But we shall not be content to point out inconsistencies in the attitude of the Hindus. I want to prove to you today that our own conduct is not inconsistent with our religion. In the first place, it is false to speak of Jesus' 'doctrine of non-resistance.' In John 2:13-16, the Beloved Disciple reports that the first act of Jesus Christ's ministry in the city of Jerusalem was to make a whip of ropes and flog the moneychangers out of the court of the Temple. Does this look like non-resistance, cringing submission to the triumph of evil? Indeed not! Nor was this all: Matthew 21:12-13 and Mark 11:15-17 both record that He repeated this cleansing of the Temple of the evil antiChristians who infested it, during the last week before His crucifixion. Jesus Christ, Himself, never tolerated evil, never consented that it should be allowed to remain triumphant rather than to resist it. Only in His crucifixion did He allow the forces of evil to have their way: and this was not through any doctrine of non-resistance to evil, but only to fulfil the purpose for which He had assumed a human body. He came here for the express purpose of meeting death to pay the penalty for our sins, in order to save us; if He had not submitted to crucifixion, His purpose to save us would not have been accomplished. For this reason only did He submit, and not because He ever believed in letting evil triumph without resistance.



But someone will say, "What about Matthew 5:38-39?"

"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."


No, there is no inconsistency here, either. This advice was never given to the nation, that we should surrender to China and leave the world in slavery. It was given only to individuals - and to particular individuals, at that. Jesus was preaching to bring His truths before all who had the qualities to respond to Him and would become His disciples: these would be that first generation of Christians whose responsibility above all else was to spread His word, without being distracted by petty quarrels with other people.



They were to face ridicule, contempt and hatred; every day they would be given provocation by insults and injuries. If they let themselves react with natural anger, they would be in constant quarrels and fights; they would be constantly arrested and in jail, not as noble martyrs to a great cause, but as brawlers constantly fighting in the streets over personal quarrels - which would not be a good recommendation for the new religion of Christianity. Even if they did not fight, but looked to the law to vindicate their rights, this would make them spend all their time and energy in lawsuits instead of their missionary work. This was not the duty of the early Christians. But that He did not intend that they should tamely let themselves be slaughtered by ruffians is clear: In Luke 22:36, He told His disciples that "he that had no sword should sell his cloak and buy one."



So many erroneous religious doctrines come from the mistake of taking out of context words spoken for a certain time and place, and trying to make universal, eternal rules of them. In Matthew 14:19 and Mark 6:39, when Jesus Christ was about to feed the multitude with a few loaves and fishes, we read that "He commanded the multitudes to sit down on the grass." This certainly doesn't mean that it is a Christian's duty to go around making people sit down on the grass: it was spoken only to meet the special circumstances of a particular time and place and no-one should try to make a doctrine of it. So also with Jesus Christ's instructions to the early Christians to stick to the job for which He had chosen them, and not waste time quarrelling with the wicked. But don't ever think that, if you see some ruffian trying to rape your wife or daughter you should merely stand around murmuring pious platitudes about the desirability of good conduct. Your duty - and I do mean DUTY- as a good Christian is to stop him if you have to kill him to do it.



So much for the individual. But this Hindu was trying to place Christian nations (not Nehru's India, nor China) under the individual's restrictions. God always distinguished between the rules for the individual and the rules for the nation. Particularly is this true of the Laws of War.It is only when we have been guilty of evil conduct and disloyalty to our God that He has allowed wicked nations to oppress us until we repented of our evil ways; then He has Himself used us as His own servant and agent to make war against those wicked nations. He began our training in this early: when our ancestors came out of Egypt in the Exodus, they were attacked by the Amalekites. For this, God said that He would have war with Amalek from generation to generation until He had utterly blotted out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.- and this duty He commanded His people Israel to perform, as we read In Exodus 17:14-16 and Deuteronomy 25:17-19. But that is only the beginning: in Jeremiah 51:20, God Himself said to our ancestors and to us, their descendants,

"Thou art My battle axe and weapons of war: and with thee will I break in pieces the nations; and with thee will I destroy kingdoms."




Is there anything pacifistic about that? Evil must not be allowed to rule the earth in triumph. To those who are good, you can speak in a language they understand, the language of peace and reason. But to those who are utterly evil, you must also speak in the only language they understand. Russia and China can't understand platitudes; they can understand superior force.

Again, we read in the seventh chapter of Judges how God sent Gideon, with but 300 men, to deliver Israel from the huge army of the Midianites; and he routed the Midianites with the slaughter of 120,000 men. We are clearly told that this was by "the sword of the Lord and of Gideon."



Neither let yourself be misled by someone quoting, "they that take the sword shall perish by the sword." Note that this speaks of TWO swords: the sword of the aggressor, who shall perish by the sword of the defender.



Lest anyone should say that this is only a characteristic of earthly men, a relic of the past, and that we should look forward to a higher, nobler character to be attained in the future, let us examine the Book of Revelation, in its description of Jesus Christ when He returns to reign over all the world as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. In Revelation 19:11, it says of Jesus Christ that "In righteousness He doth judge and MAKE WAR." Jesus Christ, Himself, recognizes that there can never be "peaceful co-existence" between good and evil: one must certainly conquer, the other must certainly perish; if good has not the will and the courage to be the conqueror, then evil will rule supreme. So long as evil exists, there will be wars: the wars of evil's aggression against good, until good conquers and exterminates evil; and this last great war to wipe out evil will be led by no less a general than our Redeemer, Jesus Christ.When He comes, let Him find you, not hiding under the bed in abject terror, but marching resolutely in the ranks of His army.