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singular_me
31st January 2016, 04:40 PM
another multi million dollars business exposed. Monetization of health and corrupted medical practices. Post surgery costs are really for suckers and binds you to big pharma for the rest of your life

pre-surgery release form one could go blind from procedure

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True Side Effects of LASIK Eye Surgery Revealed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXzqwzQo0Oc

Shami-Amourae
31st January 2016, 04:55 PM
I've been terrified to get it.

If insurance companies won't cover it, then it's not worth it.

Thank you for posting this singular_me.

singular_me
31st January 2016, 05:01 PM
difficult to believe in insurances when the whole system is going down the toilet, shami.
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800K people get lasik every year ... total scam, 50% must wear glasses again after surgery


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_4FUFhhDXo

Shami-Amourae
31st January 2016, 05:09 PM
difficult to believe in insurances when the whole system is going down the toilet, shami.
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I asked an optometrist about it. He told me "I won't tell you not to do it or not, but none of the insurance companies cover it, so that may give you a hint as to how safe it really is."

It seemed like good advice and I've continued wearing glasses ever since.

Jewboo
31st January 2016, 05:15 PM
I asked an optometrist about it. He told me "I won't tell you not to do it or not, but none of the insurance companies cover it, so that may give you a hint as to how safe it really is."

It seemed like good advice and I've continued wearing glasses ever since.

People I know had it done all complain of night time glare and regret getting it. Be satisfied with your eyeglasses.

Joshua01
31st January 2016, 07:06 PM
Lasers and my eyes didn't see to be a great mix for me so I kept my glasses

Cebu_4_2
31st January 2016, 07:26 PM
fuck with me all you want. My kid couldn't see the chalkboard, teacher showing stuff. He got headaches trying to read books that he couldn't focus on... Skool wanted eyeglasses asap.

Got the kid an eye chart and told the skool to wait a month before re-evaluation. Told the kid to do 10 minutes a day of which was 3-4 min a day studying it and going smaller letters as he could.

Never needed glasses to this day. Has 20-20.

Least I am worth something to someone.

Hitch
31st January 2016, 07:59 PM
People I know had it done all complain of night time glare and regret getting it. Be satisfied with your eyeglasses.

Yup, my night time vision sucks. Glare, halos, etc. I don't regret it though. That surgery allowed me to join the fire dept back then, they had a minimum requirement of 20/100 vision without glasses. Mine was 20/400 before lasik. Did the surgery, got onto the dept. Great memories and worth it, to me. Would have missed out on some awesome life experiences...

Still no glasses since though, so no real complaints now. My night vision is pretty bad, and lighting such as fluorescent causes blurriness. My best vision is during the day, in sunlight, both eyes are very clear.

Looking back though, I would recommend against Lasik unless you have a real good reason.

gunDriller
1st February 2016, 04:55 AM
it's a mistake to let a Jewish psychopath near your eyes with a high-powered laser.


un-precedented - FDA director resigns, starts website claiming the industry duped him.

http://HelpStopLASIK.com/

with Morris Waxler. Ran the Ophthalmic Devices group.

Joshua01
1st February 2016, 05:13 AM
it's a mistake to let a Jewish psychopath near your eyes with a high-powered laser.


un-precedented - FDA director resigns, starts website claiming the industry duped him.

http://HelpStopLASIK.com/

with Morris Waxler. Ran the Ophthalmic Devices group.

Careful, that link prompted me about malicious code. I have a Mac so I'll bet you Windows folks will get hit. I wouldn't click on that link if I were you

ximmy
1st February 2016, 09:59 AM
Had mine (both) done 8-10 years ago, I'd have to check exact dates... I love mine. Would do it again and recommend it for all.

singular_me
1st February 2016, 11:25 AM
dont know if I'd recommend something that has a 30-50% rate of nasty side effects if not more and when not covered by most insurances


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Lasik is dangerous and potentially unnecessary in 99% of cases??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNsTUxC4qxw


part 2 on youtube page

Joshua01
1st February 2016, 11:52 AM
Had mine (both) done 8-10 years ago, I'd have to check exact dates... I love mine. Would do it again and recommend it for all.

Seems like you were lucky and I, for one, am happy for you.

madfranks
1st February 2016, 11:56 AM
Seems like you were lucky and I, for one, am happy for you.

A friend of mine got lasik a couple years ago, and seems to have no side effects. He recommended that I do it, but glasses/contacts really aren't a problem for me, so I'm sticking to that for now. I know the forms they make you sign, taking full risk if you go blind or lose eyesight, and I don't think that's a gamble I can take.

Joshua01
1st February 2016, 12:27 PM
A friend of mine got lasik a couple years ago, and seems to have no side effects. He recommended that I do it, but glasses/contacts really aren't a problem for me, so I'm sticking to that for now. I know the forms they make you sign, taking full risk if you go blind or lose eyesight, and I don't think that's a gamble I can take.

I feel the same way

ximmy
1st February 2016, 02:09 PM
Watched viddies... Hog wash!

Those complications are the normal healing process after having lasik.

itchy dry eyes

halos

starbursts

blurred vision

You get what you pay for, $495.00 paid per eye and you could go blind. What idiot would trust their eyes to that?

I researched for a top of the line surgeon and the best facility at the time. I think I paid $3600.00 and would pay it again.

No budget production line. No waiting room, Just my eye doctor, the lasik surgeon and the Visx machine at USC eye institute.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKwQ4mk4jX0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ0JV6F_qzo

http://eye.keckmedicine.org/treatments-we-offer/lasik-with-the-visx/

Shami-Amourae
1st February 2016, 02:10 PM
My eyes are hyper-sensitive. I tried doing contacts, and it caused so much trouble I ended up going back to glasses.

Lasik sounds way worse.

Shami-Amourae
1st February 2016, 02:25 PM
I researched for a top of the line surgeon and the best facility at the time. I think I paid $3600.00 and would pay it again.



It sounds like there's a lot of corruption in the industry. Basically the problem rates are more like 20-30%, when the Lasik industry claims it's less than 1%. You were probably one of the lucky ones.

Hitch
1st February 2016, 06:50 PM
My eyes are hyper-sensitive. I tried doing contacts, and it caused so much trouble I ended up going back to glasses.

Lasik sounds way worse.

I couldn't wear contacts either. Like Ximmy, I researched, paid more, and went to a top guy. He was the same surgeon who did all the Denver Broncos and Rockies ball players. Can you believe a lot of those guys actually had good vision, but wanted better than 20/20? I ended up with 20/15 in one eye and 20/20 in the other after the surgury. They actually had told me that I'd need glasses later in life, mostly reading glasses.

My complications. After the surgery, I had really bad dry eye syndrome. For about a month, before going to bed, I had to put some medication in my eyes the consistency of vasiline. That went away. Years later, my eyesight has deteriorated some. Mostly at night, I get star bursts from lights. Sometimes halos, but lights in general are a bit fuzzy. It comes and goes actually, some nights it's pretty clear. The moon however, is crystal clear, always. It's non-natural light that's the problem. During the day though, my eyesight is sharp. If the collapse happens, I want day shift on security watch.

No pain or anything. I can't complain, I was so dependent on glasses, I needed them to function at the very basic of things.

My advise, is don't do the surgery UNLESS wearing glasses stops you from pursuing a life passion of yours. Then research and pay the money for a top surgeon, if you choose the option. Know the risks. I don't think recommending lasik is something for a person who just wants to look better in the mirror. Personally, I think glasses makes women look hot anyway. Hopefully women think the same about us. :)

ximmy
1st February 2016, 07:03 PM
I couldn't wear contacts either. Like Ximmy, I researched, paid more, and went to a top guy. He was the same surgeon who did all the Denver Broncos and Rockies ball players. Can you believe a lot of those guys actually had good vision, but wanted better than 20/20? I ended up with 20/15 in one eye and 20/20 in the other after the surgury. They actually had told me that I'd need glasses later in life, mostly reading glasses.

My complications. After the surgery, I had really bad dry eye syndrome. For about a month, before going to bed, I had to put some medication in my eyes the consistency of vasiline. That went away. Years later, my eyesight has deteriorated some. Mostly at night, I get star bursts from lights. Sometimes halos, but lights in general are a bit fuzzy. It comes and goes actually, some nights it's pretty clear. The moon however, is crystal clear, always. It's non-natural light that's the problem. During the day though, my eyesight is sharp. If the collapse happens, I want day shift on security watch.

No pain or anything. I can't complain, I was so dependent on glasses, I needed them to function at the very basic of things.

My advise, is don't do the surgery UNLESS wearing glasses stops you from pursuing a life passion of yours. Then research and pay the money for a top surgeon, if you choose the option. Know the risks. I don't think recommending lasik is something for a person who just wants to look better in the mirror. Personally, I think glasses makes women look hot anyway. Hopefully women think the same about us. :)

I'm sorry you have had some complications. I guess I was lucky, but I did have halos and starburst at night for over a year. Gone now. I see better than ever and for around 10ish years now.

If I could say one thing to those who are going to do it... My doctor said, (and I already knew this) never ever rub your eyes if you have had lasik. I never do.

Hitch
1st February 2016, 07:10 PM
If I could say one thing to those who are going to do it... My doctor said, (and I already knew this) never ever rub your eyes if you have had lasik. I never do.

Oh, I didn't know that. I rub my eyes all the time, I get stuff in them at work. Salt water from playing in the ocean as well. Maybe that's part of my problem. BTW, glad you had no complications. Mine really were minimal. I hope I don't sound like I'm complaining, just posting my experience for others to think about. That surgery opened doors that were unavailable to me, I'm pretty grateful for that.

madfranks
1st February 2016, 07:44 PM
They actually had told me that I'd need glasses later in life, mostly reading glasses.

When you get old, your eyes begin to deteriorate just like the rest of your body. The original spherical shape of your eyes begins to wither and shrink, so your eyes become more ellipsoid than spherical. The way my eyes are shaped, as I age, they will deteriorate into a spherical shape, so when I'm old I might not need glasses at all, reading or otherwise.

Cebu_4_2
1st February 2016, 10:44 PM
Back to studying the eye charts then.

ShortJohnSilver
1st February 2016, 10:48 PM
2 of my brothers got Lasik.

They did not have problems - 1 brother has really bad eyesight, so it was not fully corrected, but he no longer needs the coke-bottle glasses. The other brother doesn't need glass except for reading. This is about 8-10 years after they had them done.

I think the night vision and occasional starbursts does happen. And it is a scary procedure for sure.

Myself, my vision is correctable at this point, with the soft silicone-plastic contacts that last for about 30 days, then you throw them away and use a new set. Having used glasses for about 20 years or more, contacts themselves seem like a super-power for me.