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EE_
18th February 2016, 10:44 AM
What an amazing election this has become, for the Mexican government to use the pope as a pawn to stop Trump from shutting down Illegal's from invading our country.
It will be interesting to see where this goes, or if Bush/Cruz/Rubio will use this against Trump?
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PHOTOS: Pope’s border wall around Vatican
SEPTEMBER 24, 2015
BY OLAF EKBERG
While Pope Francis is in the United States effectively advocating for a borderless America, many people are amused by the irony of the giant wall surrounding his own Vatican City.
Take the lead, Holy Father: Tear down that wall!
During his speech before Congress, Pope Francis implored U.S. politicians to embrace migrants seeking to come into America.
“Our world is facing a refugee crisis of a magnitude not seen since the second World War,” the pope said, according to USA Today, including “thousands of persons (who) are led to travel north in search of a better life.
“We must not be taken aback by their numbers, but rather view them as persons, seeing their faces and listening to their stories, trying to respond as best we can to their situation.”
“To respond in a way which is always humane, just and fraternal. We need to avoid a common temptation nowadays: to discard whatever proves troublesome.”
The wall in these photos is something more impressive than anything even Donald Trump could build.
EE_
18th February 2016, 10:48 AM
Donald Trump Fires Back at "Disgraceful" Pope Francis Over Border Walls Criticism
9:21 AM PST 2/18/2016 by Ryan Parker
"No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith," the Republican candidate said.
After being criticized by Pope Francis for his controversial stance on building a Mexico border wall, Donald Trump issued a fiery response at the Vatican on Thursday.
"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian," Francis said, as quoted by The Associated Press. "This is not in the Gospel."
Trump, the GOP presidential front-runner took little time to respond to the Pope's remarks, evening insulting Pope Francis.
"For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful," Trump said in a statement. "No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith."
Trump said the Pope was misinformed by Mexican government and its leadership who "made many disparaging remarks" about Trump to the Pope.
"The Pope only heard one side of the story - he didn’t see the crime, the drug trafficking and the negative economic impact the current policies have on the United States," Trump said.
The billionaire businessman also noted the Pope may be sorry if Trump is not elected president.
"If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been President because this would not have happened," Trump stated. "ISIS would have been eradicated unlike what is happening now with our all talk, no action politicians."
The mogul's combative remarks arrive as the candidate is leading the polls for the Republican primary in South Carolina, set for Feb. 20.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-fires-back-at-867327
Shami-Amourae
18th February 2016, 10:51 AM
The Vatican has an open door policy for Muslim migrants. Maybe the Pope will give them an unused church to use as a mosque. Hey Pope Francis! Tear down that wall!
EE_
18th February 2016, 11:03 AM
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Joshua01
18th February 2016, 11:19 AM
#pedophilesareirrelevant
EE_
18th February 2016, 11:26 AM
Gay Magazine Names Pope Francis Person of the Year
December 17, 2013 1:57 PM
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The bi-monthly LGBT-interest magazine The Advocate named Pope Francis the Person of the Year.
Their magazine cover features the pope with a photo-shopped “NO H8” temporary tattoo on his cheek and the quote from him: “If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?” Bypassing gay-rights legal advocates like Edie Windsor, David Boies, and Ted Olson, The Advocate chose a person not “from our ongoing legal conflict but instead from our spiritual one.”
The magazine looks to Pope Francis, the leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics, as particularly well-suited to persuade those “who block progress” toward LGBT acceptance in religion because those against “progress” “will more likely be persuaded by a figure they know.” Yet while Lucas Grindley, in his cover story, expresses admiration for Francis, he does not ignore his stance against gay marriage, noting that the pope has called it a “destructive attack on God’s plan” and has written that marriage should be a “stable union of man and woman.”
“Pope Francis is still not pro-gay by today’s standards,” writes Grindley. But “LGBT Catholics who remain in the church now have more reason to hope that change is coming.”
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/366557/gay-magazine-names-pope-francis-person-year-alec-torres
Shami-Amourae
18th February 2016, 11:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2JoyCqRdOo
cheka.
18th February 2016, 12:13 PM
'pope' used to fight against homos. pope used to fight against abortion. pope used to have an independent bank.
pope fell to the zioclan -- lost the bank....and now gets its talking points from nyc. under control of the same media central control room that the msm is
EE_
18th February 2016, 02:34 PM
Pope Francis is more than head of the Catholic Church — he’s also the head of state of the Vatican, which as a government, has possibly the most restrictive immigration and citizenship policies of any nation in the world.
The pope, traveling to the U.S. for the first time, has made a special appeal to Americans to welcome immigrants, using his address to a joint meeting of Congress Thursday to invoke the Golden Rule in demanding generosity toward the millions of Central and South Americans seeking to come to the country.
“Thousands of persons are led to travel north in search of a better life for themselves and for their loved ones, in search of greater opportunities. Is this not what we want for our own children?” he said. “We need to avoid a common temptation nowadays: to discard whatever proves troublesome. Let us remember the Golden Rule: ‘Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.’”
Immigrant rights groups had eagerly anticipated the pope’s message, as had illegal immigrants themselves.
Sophie Cruz, a five-year-old U.S. citizen whose parents are illegal immigrants from Mexico, broke through the tight security around the pope during a parade on the National Mall on Wednesday to hand him a letter begging him to pressure Congress and the White House to take steps to grant her parents legal status.
The pontiff didn’t mention illegal immigration during his speech Thursday, but did refer to the large numbers of people coming from Latin America. Advocacy groups cheered his words, saying his call for unity and acceptance should temper some of the harsh rhetoric that’s flared recently.
“At this moment, with many political candidates and elected officials fanning the flames of intolerance and divisiveness, let us hope that our leaders take the Holy Father’s powerful message to heart,” said Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice.
But lawmakers doubted his words would break the legislative stalemate in Congress.
Sen. Ted Cruz, Texas Republican, said he took the pope’s call for compassion to be a celebration of legal immigration — and said he welcomed that.
Rep. Michael Burgess, Texas Republican, said the U.S. is already doing its part to heed calls for compassion.
“The thing that always strikes me when we get into these discussions is the United States takes in more people every year legally than the rest of the world combined,” he said. “You start from that premise — it was 1.7 million last year, you want to add another 400,000 to 600,000 that came in without the benefit of doing it the right way. What is the right number? If over 2 million is not enough, would someone please tell me what that right number is, and would other countries act accordingly.”
The Vatican, for its part, welcomes millions of visitors a year — but allows only a very select few, who meet strict criteria, to be admitted as residents or citizens.
Only about 450 of its 800 or so residents actually hold citizenship, according to a 2012 study by the Library of Congress. That study said citizens are either church cardinals who reside in the Vatican, the Holy See’s diplomats around the world, and those who have to reside in the city because of their jobs, such as the Swiss Guard.
Spouses and children who live in the city because of their relationship with citizens — including the Swiss Guard and workers such as the gardener — have also been granted citizenship. But that means few of the Vatican’s citizens are women.
A Vatican spokesman did not return an email seeking comment on its policy.
The strict policy has left the Vatican open to criticism in the past, including from right-wing political leaders in Italy who want tighter immigration controls in their country and have rebuffed the papacy’s calls for leniency by asking how many refugees live in the enclave.
Pope Francis, however, has taken some steps to mitigate those attacks, matching his call earlier this month for churches to host Syrian refugees with a vow that the Vatican itself would take in a couple of refugee families.
Last week the Vatican government announced it had accepted a mother, father and two children who are Melkite Greek Catholics, and who have asked for asylum in Italy
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/24/pope-call-immigration-unlikely-change-debate/?page=all
mick silver
18th February 2016, 04:03 PM
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EE_
18th February 2016, 04:31 PM
POPE, WHO LIVES IN A WALLED CITADEL, JUST CALLED TRUMP ‘UNCHRISTIAN’ FOR WANTING TO BUILD A WALL ON THE U.S.-MEXICO BORDER
FEBRUARY 18, 2016 | MELISSA DYKES | THE DAILY SHEEPLE | 749 VIEWS
The elite want Donald Trump gone. Bad. So bad in fact they have called in the Pope to publicly condemn Trump for wanting to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.
The Pope said:
“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the Gospel.”
Funny, isn’t it? How much of a dog and pony puppet show this is?
Now they’ve tapped the Pope to come out against Trump with about the weakest argument the Pope could make pretty much ever.
Here’s a Pope who came over to the U.S. just a few months ago laughing and smiling with Obama and said nothing about the current president’s stance on, oh, I dunno, the murdering of thousands of innocent people (including women, children, the elderly) via drone strikes in undeclared wars in the Middle East or the president’s pro-Planned
Parenthood stance despite the fact that they aborted over 320,000 babies last year alone and have reportedly made $23 million annually on the sale of harvested baby parts.
No, that’s all good and fine to the Pope… but going against the Establishment’s plan for a one world government via the breakdown of national sovereignty everywhere by forced mass immigration, unconstitutional offensive wars, and tyrannical trade agreements? Count him in.
Besides that, as it has been pointed out by many, the Pope lives in a WALLED CITADEL:
It must be easier to tell others to live without secure borders when you lived in a walled city and have security guards constantly protecting your life?
Vatican-wall
He is completely surrounded by… WALLS!!!
Even Piers Morgan, who routinely flaunts his horrible politics on Twitter, couldn’t find it within himself to agree with this Pope:
Then again, they’ve promised this Pope he could be the Pope for the one world religion, so…
“They are using the Pope as a pawn,” Donald Trump responded. (Yeah, obviously.) “For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful,” Trump noted, which is a much more respectful response than what a lot of people would have said to such a total and utter hypocrite.
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/pope-calls-trump-unchristian_022016
StreetsOfGold
18th February 2016, 05:08 PM
I'm Surprised no one has brought up the book of Nehemiah, note how it was God's ENEMIES which wanted the WALL BROKEN DOWN (like the pope)
Nehemiah 1:3 And they said unto me, The remnant that are left of the captivity there in the province are in great affliction and reproach: the wall of Jerusalem also is broken down, and the gates thereof are burned with fire.
Nehemiah 2:17 Then said I unto them, Ye see the distress that we are in, how Jerusalem lieth waste, and the gates thereof are burned with fire: come, and let us build up the wall of Jerusalem, that we be no more a reproach.
Nehemiah 3:8 Next unto him repaired Uzziel the son of Harhaiah, of the goldsmiths. Next unto him also repaired Hananiah the son of one of the apothecaries, and they fortified Jerusalem unto the broad wall.
Nehemiah 4:1 ¶ But it came to pass, that when Sanballat heard that we builded the wall, he was wroth, and took great indignation, and mocked the Jews.
Nehemiah 4:3 Now Tobiah the Ammonite was by him, and he said, Even that which they build, if a fox go up, he shall even break down their stone wall.
The wall gets finished in spite of the enemies trying to keep it from being built
Nehemiah 6:1 ¶ Now it came to pass, when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and Geshem the Arabian, and the rest of our enemies, heard that I had builded the wall, and that there was no breach left therein; (though at that time I had not set up the doors upon the gates;)
Joshua01
18th February 2016, 07:00 PM
I'm Surprised no one has brought up the book of Nehemiah, note how it was God's ENEMIES which wanted the WALL BROKEN DOWN (like the pope)
Nehemiah 1:3 And they said unto me, The remnant that are left of the captivity there in the province are in great affliction and reproach: the wall of Jerusalem also is broken down, and the gates thereof are burned with fire.
Nehemiah 2:17 Then said I unto them, Ye see the distress that we are in, how Jerusalem lieth waste, and the gates thereof are burned with fire: come, and let us build up the wall of Jerusalem, that we be no more a reproach.
Nehemiah 3:8 Next unto him repaired Uzziel the son of Harhaiah, of the goldsmiths. Next unto him also repaired Hananiah the son of one of the apothecaries, and they fortified Jerusalem unto the broad wall.
Nehemiah 4:1 ¶ But it came to pass, that when Sanballat heard that we builded the wall, he was wroth, and took great indignation, and mocked the Jews.
Nehemiah 4:3 Now Tobiah the Ammonite was by him, and he said, Even that which they build, if a fox go up, he shall even break down their stone wall.
The wall gets finished in spite of the enemies trying to keep it from being built
Nehemiah 6:1 ¶ Now it came to pass, when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and Geshem the Arabian, and the rest of our enemies, heard that I had builded the wall, and that there was no breach left therein; (though at that time I had not set up the doors upon the gates;)
There are some serious English grammar problems here...
EE_
18th February 2016, 07:38 PM
There are some serious English grammar problems here...
There's no such thing as good grammar anymore. The higher the education, the worse the grammar is.
Shami-Amourae
18th February 2016, 07:39 PM
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/64551289
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Cebu_4_2
18th February 2016, 07:42 PM
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/64551289
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So Shami you root for Hillary?
Shami-Amourae
18th February 2016, 07:48 PM
So Shami you root for Hillary?
Umm no? Why are you saying that.
I already voted for Trump.
You all should too.
Cebu_4_2
18th February 2016, 07:57 PM
Umm no? Why are you saying that.
I already voted for Trump.
You all should too.
Least bitter of the lemons. I will never again vote for the least of the 2 evils.
Shami-Amourae
18th February 2016, 07:59 PM
Least bitter of the lemons. I will never again vote for the least of the 2 evils.
Least? Trump isn't Evil. He's like the best candidate of our life time. The establishment is SHITTING bricks over him.
He makes Ron Paul look like a child.
Making things worse won't make things better.
Joshua01
18th February 2016, 08:06 PM
There's no such thing as good grammar anymore. The higher the education, the worse the grammar is.
The higher the intelligence, the better the grammar
Cebu_4_2
18th February 2016, 08:11 PM
Least? Trump isn't Evil. He's like the best candidate of our life time. The establishment is SHITTING their bricks over him.
He makes Ron Paul look like a child.
you must have read me wrong. Without Trump we have lemons.
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