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midnight rambler
21st February 2016, 07:09 PM
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/270163-reid-powerful-union-come-to-clintons-aid

Glass
21st February 2016, 07:24 PM
Does that include the Deere Unions?

Imagine being anti communist AND still being part of a Trade Union. That would be a conundruim.

7th trump
21st February 2016, 07:47 PM
Hahahahahaha nice one boys.....I'm union, but vote Republican.
The union can sponsor the democrats all they want, but most of us union members vote Republican.


Nice to see midnight liar trying his best....after all its all he has.

7th trump
21st February 2016, 07:49 PM
Does that include the Deere Unions?

Imagine being anti communist AND still being part of a Trade Union. That would be a conundruim.

Why dont you go ask them......they're UAW....I'm IBEW! The IBEW skilled trade guys who brought you the 40 hour work week and your weekend from way back in the late 1800's.

7th trump
21st February 2016, 07:51 PM
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/270163-reid-powerful-union-come-to-clintons-aid

Your title is misleading....that article says nothing about communists.
You wouldnt mislead people now would you?
Ohhh thats right you would mislead and lie because your a jew loving soviet.

vacuum
21st February 2016, 07:54 PM
Why would the unions support somebody who was pushing the TPP.

I think people are smarter than that.

Joshua01
21st February 2016, 08:02 PM
Why dont you go ask them......they're UAW....I'm IBEW! The IBEW skilled trade guys who brought you the 40 hour work week and your weekend from way back in the late 1800's.

The direction of your union is not going to be driven by who you are, rather...it will be driven by those who lead you

7th trump
21st February 2016, 08:04 PM
Why would the unions support somebody who was pushing the TPP.

I think people are smarter than that.

Last meeting I went to the council brought up who to endorse...if one person agrees they support that guy. Unions push democrat because democrats are traditionally for the working class.
I brought up in a meeting once years ago about NAFTA that NAFTA was drafted by two democrats and offered to the Republicans. Dead silence in the room. I only did it because I wanted to show the idiots in charge they dont really know who they are voting for.

7th trump
21st February 2016, 08:08 PM
The direction of your union is not going to be driven by who you are, rather...it will be driven by those who lead you

Yep...thats why I dont ever give them any extra money nor do I always support their political decisions (you'd be surprised that not many of us IBEW members actually agree to the unions politics). If they do something I feel is wrong theres nothing I can do about it on that level.
I havent been to a meeting in over 4 years...dont really care to.

Glass
21st February 2016, 08:08 PM
The only difference between communism, socialism and democracy is that in one of them you get the belief that you have chosen your oppressors for the next 3 or 4 years. Other than that they all share the same ideological roots.

And yes the 40 hour week. I would have liked to experience that but never mind. Weekends. Sure I accept that was a good one. But the weeked was really just Sunday off for Church. Sad though that weekends are now a thing of the past. Here the stores are open 7 days a week. The jewish community here needed sunday trading because they can't shop on saturdays. But it was a slow whittle over 3 decades to get here. First it was Thursday nights, then Saturday mornings, then satruday afternoon, then special "tourist precincts" where 7 day trading was absolutely essential for the economy to "Survive" to blanket Sunday trading across the state.

I see construction sites in operation on Sundays, road workers, retail workers. The only ones not working are Govt minions and office workers who are not fronting retail. So yes the 7 day work week has returned. Usually only participated in by godless people. Christians still take sunday off... for the most part. At least they are still showing up to Church on a Sunday.

But then there are the primary producers who don't get weekends either. They might get a hoe down every now and then, but not much else.

Anyway you get that when you live in an atheist/satanic worshipping society.

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 04:35 AM
Yep...thats why I dont ever give them any extra money nor do I always support their political decisions (you'd be surprised that not many of us IBEW members actually agree to the unions politics). If they do something I feel is wrong theres nothing I can do about it on that level.
I havent been to a meeting in over 4 years...dont really care to.
Why do you pay them your hard earned cash when you are neither supporting their political agenda, you feel you have no say in their policy, and you don't even care to go to their meetings? Seems kind of stupid to pay for them to represent you, and you feel they don't...

palani
22nd February 2016, 04:43 AM
Why do you pay them

Illinois is not a right to work state.

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 04:49 AM
Illinois is not a right to work state.
You have to belong to a union to work as an electrician there? Wow! That is even more communist than Sweden.

boogietillyapuke
22nd February 2016, 04:50 AM
Why do you pay them your hard earned cash when you are neither supporting their political agenda, you feel you have no say in their policy, and you don't even care to go to their meetings? Seems kind of stupid to pay for them to represent you, and you feel they don't...


Hot damn...........I am anxiously awaiting a logical answer to that question.

palani
22nd February 2016, 04:57 AM
You have to belong to a union to work as an electrician there?
This is true at factories and construction sites. Less true if you just want to freelance, wiring homes, home repair, that sort of thing.

Also true is that when the union goes out on strike the companies there have no need to worry about the lack of a right to work provision. They hire who they want as long as they don't mind getting to work through a rabid mob.

Ares
22nd February 2016, 05:04 AM
I ended up having to flash my gun to some union morons in Indiana when I lived there. This was back when I was 21-22 years old. I already had my carry permit and always carried because I worked in some pretty shitty areas of the town back then.

Anyway I go to a site that had hired Union Electricians to do a pre-wire, I and the other guy were non-union. Anyway the crew boss of the union crew came over (literally we were not on site but maybe 5-10 minutes) he was pissing and moaning how he had 4 guys sitting at home because we got the pre-wire contract for the low voltage.

I said it's easy to see why, there are 2 of us doing the pre-wire when you were going to have 4 for basically a 1 to 2 person job. Of course that pissed him off and he goes on belittling non-union labor. So we go our separate ways we do the work and come time to go home for the day, I see 4 union guys standing by my truck, one guy has a hammer. They start walking towards me, I drop my tool box and reach under my coat and I grab my gun I hear one guy say "Oh shit!, he has a gun!".

I never pulled it out at this point but my hand was on it and ready to draw it if needed. I said yes I have a gun, and I don't take shit from anyone. If I come here tomorrow and my vehicle is damaged in anyway by you union scum bags I'll put a bullet in every union members engine block here. I'm not fucking around with you assholes.

I got a call from my boss later that evening, but the guy I was working with backed up my side of the story. I had 2 days left on the project, so I knew it was going to be contentious, but I didn't engage them or even talk to them the rest of the time I was on site. They never messed with me again or laid a finger on my vehicle.

Unions love strong arm tactics to get their way (how very communist of them). Don't even get me started on the time I crossed a picket line to go and do the work the Union said wasn't making enough money to do the job.. :rolleyes:.

Union controlled cities are usually shit holes, no competition as they try to drive them out and every project goes over budget because of labor costs. Chicago is Union capitol of the midwest and I dreaded every single time I had to go work out there.

What I like about the South, now that I've had some time living down here is very very few unions. People are generally more friendly, and you can get an electrician in a moments notice at a cost far cheaper than what I ever saw back home.

palani
22nd February 2016, 05:15 AM
Chicago is Union capitol of the midwest

Detroit is the union capital of the world and look at the condition they are in.

And Jimmy Hoffa is still missing and probably not sucking up margarita's on the beach.

Ares
22nd February 2016, 05:24 AM
Detroit is the union capital of the world and look at the condition they are in.

And Jimmy Hoffa is still missing and probably not sucking up margarita's on the beach.

I never worked in Detroit, only experience I had with a total Union controlled city was Chicago. It was a nightmare. Don't even get me started if the Union actually owns the building but the tenant goes to a 3rd party to get stuff done. What a fucking nightmare, it took us 3 months to do a 20 minute wire pull because of all the fucking red tape bullshit.

The tenant even told us that the building owner said he could of had it done in an hour if they had chosen him, to which the tenant responded they did go with them first, but they never did the job and was going to cost 3 times as much. So they chose a 3rd party partly out of spite. Who was out of state and had to pay for travel cost. Just goes to show how much over budget they really are when they can control the entire city.

Joshua01
22nd February 2016, 05:42 AM
I ended up having to flash my gun to some union morons in Indiana when I lived there. This was back when I was 21-22 years old. I already had my carry permit and always carried because I worked in some pretty shitty areas of the town back then.

Anyway I go to a site that had hired Union Electricians to do a pre-wire, I and the other guy were non-union. Anyway the crew boss of the union crew came over (literally we were not on site but maybe 5-10 minutes) he was pissing and moaning how he had 4 guys sitting at home because we got the pre-wire contract for the low voltage.

I said it's easy to see why, there are 2 of us doing the pre-wire when you were going to have 4 for basically a 1 to 2 person job. Of course that pissed him off and he goes on belittling non-union labor. So we go our separate ways we do the work and come time to go home for the day, I see 4 union guys standing by my truck, one guy has a hammer. They start walking towards me, I drop my tool box and reach under my coat and I grab my gun I hear one guy say "Oh shit!, he has a gun!".

I never pulled it out at this point but my hand was on it and ready to draw it if needed. I said yes I have a gun, and I don't take shit from anyone. If I come here tomorrow and my vehicle is damaged in anyway by you union scum bags I'll put a bullet in every union members engine block here. I'm not fucking around with you assholes.

I got a call from my boss later that evening, but the guy I was working with backed up my side of the story. I had 2 days left on the project, so I knew it was going to be contentious, but I didn't engage them or even talk to them the rest of the time I was on site. They never messed with me again or laid a finger on my vehicle.

Unions love strong arm tactics to get their way (how very communist of them). Don't even get me started on the time I crossed a picket line to go and do the work the Union said wasn't making enough money to do the job.. :rolleyes:.

Union controlled cities are usually shit holes, no competition as they try to drive them out and every project goes over budget because of labor costs. Chicago is Union capitol of the midwest and I dreaded every single time I had to go work out there.

What I like about the South, now that I've had some time living down here is very very few unions. People are generally more friendly, and you can get an electrician in a moments notice at a cost far cheaper than what I ever saw back home.

Very interesting story. Union shithole cities are cesspools of corruption

Joshua01
22nd February 2016, 05:43 AM
Why do you pay them your hard earned cash when you are neither supporting their political agenda, you feel you have no say in their policy, and you don't even care to go to their meetings? Seems kind of stupid to pay for them to represent you, and you feel they don't...

I'm looking forward to seeing the answer to this post...if we see one at all

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 05:47 AM
Why do you pay them your hard earned cash when you are neither supporting their political agenda, you feel you have no say in their policy, and you don't even care to go to their meetings? Seems kind of stupid to pay for them to represent you, and you feel they don't...

Their political agenda, not policy, I don't agree to because they have blind allegiance to the democratic party.

They represent me very well when it comes to collective bargaining. I'm guaranteed a raise every year depending on the agreed 3 year contractual raise. I get free schooling, and we are self insured at $1.14 per day which is the union dues. Without the union I'd make less than 40,000.00 a year where the contractor would get 30,000.00 and I'd have to pay for insurance out of that 40,000.00 or go on obamacare.
We complete with nonunions so if I earned 70,000.00 that's in the bid price and the nonunion contractors are competing against us so if they come in just 500.00 under our bid and pay their help 40,000.00 they are pocketing 30,000.00 before any work is done.
The nonunions love the unions because their profit margin is larger than the unions. And they get to hire any dick off the street with no skill whereas we school/train ourselves.
Most governments wont hire nonunion because they know nonunions aren't trained and usually do shit craftsmanship which the tax payers bitch about giving nonunions union scale and get shit in return for the higher money.

I'll pay the 1.14 per day for a 30,000.00 year increase, free schooling and excellent insurance......who wouldn't.
And all that is competing with nonunions.
So you tell me who making out better...the unions or the nonunions?
Did you know the nonunion contractors belong to their own union?
Its a union for contractors to keep their help from organizing.......its called "ABC"
http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/13321/union-busting_is_as_easy_as_abc_the_associated_builders_ and_contractors


ABC did not succeed in eliminating unions on big private and public projects, but it has contributed to the steep decline in the unionization rate in the building trades. In 1973, 40 percent of private construction workers were in unions; in 2011, only 14 percent.

boogietillyapuke
22nd February 2016, 06:03 AM
Let me paraphrase: Cause I get more free shit.

Ares
22nd February 2016, 06:03 AM
Very interesting story. Union shithole cities are cesspools of corruption

Yep, because the same unions fund the politicians that get elected which drives out competition and cost for consumers. I even called out a union funded city council member who was attempting to make it more difficult for non-union labor to get jobs in the city. This was before Indiana voted on and passed the Right to work law.

Plenty of my friends are in Unions and generally do not vote for Democrats, but in the same vein are not able to control how their dues are being spent by the Union. Most union bosses are paid extremely well to do virtually nothing other than handle the political aspect of the Union they represent. All from the union members dues.

Ares
22nd February 2016, 06:13 AM
The nonunions love the unions because their profit margin is larger than the unions. And they get to hire any dick off the street with no skill whereas we school/train ourselves.
Most governments wont hire nonunion because they know nonunions aren't trained and usually do shit craftsmanship which the tax payers bitch about giving nonunions union scale and get shit in return for the higher money.

Guess that depends on which part of the country you live in. Indiana if you didn't work in a Union, you hated working beside a Union on a job site. Arrogant and ignorant, yeah you train yourself but I asked one of the guys there what CompTIA recommends for an Ethernet jack (Their recommendations are for 2 data ports) and I couldn't get an answer.

The Unions in the areas I worked (parts of Chicago) were so over priced that the customer would literally pay for our travel to perform the work from a company that was located out of state, yet it was still cheaper than the price they were quoted.

midnight rambler
22nd February 2016, 07:27 AM
Illinois is not a right to work state.

So it's a bastion of Communism? I suppose I should have guessed since that's where 'communi(st) organizers' come from.

midnight rambler
22nd February 2016, 07:30 AM
I ended up having to flash my gun to some union morons in Indiana when I lived there. This was back when I was 21-22 years old. I already had my carry permit and always carried because I worked in some pretty shitty areas of the town back then.

Anyway I go to a site that had hired Union Electricians to do a pre-wire, I and the other guy were non-union. Anyway the crew boss of the union crew came over (literally we were not on site but maybe 5-10 minutes) he was pissing and moaning how he had 4 guys sitting at home because we got the pre-wire contract for the low voltage.

I said it's easy to see why, there are 2 of us doing the pre-wire when you were going to have 4 for basically a 1 to 2 person job. Of course that pissed him off and he goes on belittling non-union labor. So we go our separate ways we do the work and come time to go home for the day, I see 4 union guys standing by my truck, one guy has a hammer. They start walking towards me, I drop my tool box and reach under my coat and I grab my gun I hear one guy say "Oh shit!, he has a gun!".

I never pulled it out at this point but my hand was on it and ready to draw it if needed. I said yes I have a gun, and I don't take shit from anyone. If I come here tomorrow and my vehicle is damaged in anyway by you union scum bags I'll put a bullet in every union members engine block here. I'm not fucking around with you assholes.

I got a call from my boss later that evening, but the guy I was working with backed up my side of the story. I had 2 days left on the project, so I knew it was going to be contentious, but I didn't engage them or even talk to them the rest of the time I was on site. They never messed with me again or laid a finger on my vehicle.

Unions love strong arm tactics to get their way (how very communist of them). Don't even get me started on the time I crossed a picket line to go and do the work the Union said wasn't making enough money to do the job.. :rolleyes:.

Union controlled cities are usually shit holes, no competition as they try to drive them out and every project goes over budget because of labor costs. Chicago is Union capitol of the midwest and I dreaded every single time I had to go work out there.

What I like about the South, now that I've had some time living down here is very very few unions. People are generally more friendly, and you can get an electrician in a moments notice at a cost far cheaper than what I ever saw back home.

Lemme guess - those Communist thugs were 'IBEW'.

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 07:33 AM
Their political agenda, not policy, I don't agree to because they have blind allegiance to the democratic party.

They represent me very well when it comes to collective bargaining. I'm guaranteed a raise every year depending on the agreed 3 year contractual raise. I get free schooling, and we are self insured at $1.14 per day which is the union dues. Without the union I'd make less than 40,000.00 a year where the contractor would get 30,000.00 and I'd have to pay for insurance out of that 40,000.00 or go on obamacare.
We complete with nonunions so if I earned 70,000.00 that's in the bid price and the nonunion contractors are competing against us so if they come in just 500.00 under our bid and pay their help 40,000.00 they are pocketing 30,000.00 before any work is done.
The nonunions love the unions because their profit margin is larger than the unions. And they get to hire any dick off the street with no skill whereas we school/train ourselves.
Most governments wont hire nonunion because they know nonunions aren't trained and usually do shit craftsmanship which the tax payers bitch about giving nonunions union scale and get shit in return for the higher money.

I'll pay the 1.14 per day for a 30,000.00 year increase, free schooling and excellent insurance......who wouldn't.
And all that is competing with nonunions.
So you tell me who making out better...the unions or the nonunions?
Did you know the nonunion contractors belong to their own union?
Its a union for contractors to keep their help from organizing.......its called "ABC"
http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/13321/union-busting_is_as_easy_as_abc_the_associated_builders_ and_contractors
I doubt the reason for government hiring Union is quality, they obviously pay way more for union work, and probably most government is Democratic in Illinois, so it is a case of you support me getting elected and I'll make sure all gov work goes to your members no matter the price difference. You do realize that you belong to the base of an incredibly corrupt system, and that the taxpayers are the one who has to foot the bill, including your extra salary. Didn't you get your training as an electrician in trade school? Wasn't it good enough, and therefore the union had to train you more?

Anyway congratulations to the benefit of being part of a socialist system!

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 07:41 AM
Let me paraphrase: Cause I get more free shit.
Trump thrives under communism, even being a grassroot supporter of Illinois communist system (perhaps socialist fascist). Meanwhile his foremost occupation here seems to be to go around bashing others for being communists, IMO totally without merit!

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 07:44 AM
Let me paraphrase: Cause I get more free shit.

Hahaha....allow me to paraphrase your paraphrase.

To paraphrase "I get more free shit" is really saying Boogie read my article but can comprehend past the prekindergarten level which resulted in his retarded comment.
Let me say it one more time...the union is funded by the members union dues which are payed to the union by its members who compete with nonunion and union contractors to win contracts.
Only a moron wouldn't comprehend this after I just explained this to him.

Like I said I'll pay the 1.14 per day for a 30,000.00 increase rather give the nonunion employer the 30,000.00 and tell me they don't have any money for a 1.00 raise or pay for insurance or buy the required tools to get the job done.
Every nonunion contractor I came across live in 500,000.00 homes and drive 70,000.00 vehicles.

Ares
22nd February 2016, 07:52 AM
Lemme guess - those Communist thugs were 'IBEW'.

IBEW Local 153.

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 08:20 AM
Hahaha....allow me to paraphrase your paraphrase.

To paraphrase "I get more free shit" is really saying Boogie read my article but can comprehend past the prekindergarten level which resulted in his retarded comment.
Let me say it one more time...the union is funded by the members union dues which are payed to the union by its members who compete with nonunion and union contractors to win contracts.
Only a moron wouldn't comprehend this after I just explained this to him.

Like I said I'll pay the 1.14 per day for a 30,000.00 increase rather give the nonunion employer the 30,000.00 and tell me they don't have any money for a 1.00 raise or pay for insurance or buy the required tools to get the job done.
Every nonunion contractor I came across live in 500,000.00 homes and drive 70,000.00 vehicles.
To paraphrase: I sold my soul to Satan for 30 pieces of silver...

Why on earth don't you become a non-Union contractor? Too difficult?

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 10:25 AM
To paraphrase: I sold my soul to Satan for 30 pieces of silver...

Why on earth don't you become a non-Union contractor? Too difficult?

So you think I sold my soul for thirty pieces huh?
Why work the same job and get paid lower wages and be treated like a dog?
Why work the same job get paid less and retire on a lousy 401K and Social Security?
I have two pensions through the union...an international pension, a local pension and a small annuity and any private money I have saved up.
All this on the same competitive contracts as nonunions contractors.

Why would anyone become a Chiro instead of a doctor? Too difficult for ya neuro?

I mean here in the US a chiro passes the same medical test as a medical doctor.....
or let me paraphrase did you Neuro study at a shit hole college resulting in only able to practice in shit countries who will accept a shit hole education?

Joshua01
22nd February 2016, 10:58 AM
So you think I sold my soul for thirty pieces huh?
Why work the same job and get paid lower wages and be treated like a dog?
Why work the same job get paid less and retire on a lousy 401K and Social Security?
I have two pensions through the union...an international pension, a local pension ....


Good luck getting it when you need it. Look around and see what's been happening with pensions these days!

midnight rambler
22nd February 2016, 10:58 AM
Still MORE thoroughly corrupt Communist union stooges lining up support for the EXTREMELY corrupt Killary. SERIOUSLY, how much more obvious can it POSSIBLY be?? ??? -

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/22/unions-say-theres-no-split-they-support-hillary-clinton/?_r=0

Joshua01
22nd February 2016, 11:00 AM
Still MORE thoroughly Communist union stooges lining up support for the EXTREMELY corrupt Killary. SERIOUSLY, how much more obvious can it POSSIBLY be?? ??? -

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/22/unions-say-theres-no-split-they-support-hillary-clinton/?_r=0

I think that's just fine....their true colors are shining brightly now

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 11:09 AM
Why would anyone become a Chiro instead of a doctor? Too difficult for ya neuro?

I mean here in the US a chiro passes the same medical test as a medical doctor.....
or let me paraphrase did you Neuro study at a shit hole college resulting in only able to practice in shit countries who will accept a shit hole education?
I earn about twice as much as you do, working half time (generally working 2 weeks, having one week of holiday in Sweden or elsewhere in between, apart from in July and August where I spend all my time in Sweden), serving private patients that pay me cash without any insurance coverage. That's what my shithole MSc from Portsmouth University has led too, nowadays barely no-one asks for my credentials though, since they come highly recommended by one or several of my previous patients. I realize being a private contractor isn't for everyone, but it is funny when those who can't make it in the real world go around and accuse others of being communists.

You are nothing but a little Illinois communist Trump! ;D

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 12:26 PM
I earn about twice as much as you do, working half time (generally working 2 weeks, having one week of holiday in Sweden or elsewhere in between, apart from in July and August where I spend all my time in Sweden), serving private patients that pay me cash without any insurance coverage. That's what my shithole MSc from Portsmouth University has led too, nowadays barely no-one asks for my credentials though, since they come highly recommended by one or several of my previous patients. I realize being a private contractor isn't for everyone, but it is funny when those who can't make it in the real world go around and accuse others of being communists.

You are nothing but a little Illinois communist Trump! ;D
Really?
So according to you I sold my soul to make a better living as a union electrician that competes with nonunion contractor for the same contract (lowest bid) and you didn't sell your soul to TAKE more money rather than only taking what you need?

See your arrogant hypocrisy?
And what is cute is you have a known jewish communist cheering you on.

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 12:29 PM
Good luck getting it when you need it. Look around and see what's been happening with pensions these days!

Those are mainly public worker pensions. And those pensions are being taken over because they are in trouble. My pension is not in trouble.

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 01:16 PM
Really?
So according to you I sold my soul to make a better living as a union electrician that competes with nonunion contractor for the same contract (lowest bid) and you didn't sell your soul to TAKE more money rather than only taking what you need?

See your arrogant hypocrisy?
And what is cute is you have a known jewish communist cheering you on.
You are a total idiot. I don't take people's money, they happily pay me a few hundred dollars to solve their spinal/hip/shoulder/elbow/knee joint problem vs going to a medical Dr that would recommend them a surgery ($5,000-20,000), or symptom suppressing drugs (which doesn't help), or 15 sessions of PT (which doesn't help). I provide a valuable service, and people don't mind paying for it. I work hard, seeing aproximately 200 patient visits /week, when I am working, and I do give discounts to people who don't have money to pay my otherwise reasonable fees.

The "known Jewish communist", is known only in your own mind. No one apart from you accuses midnight rambler of being a Jewish communist.

You on the other hand is a supporter of Hillary's candidacy through your Union membership, which gives you a lot of benefits apparently, through your employers cushy government contracts. You are projecting, accusing others of communism, when in fact you are a cog in their system.

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 02:26 PM
You are a total idiot. I don't take people's money, they happily pay me a few hundred dollars to solve their spinal/hip/shoulder/elbow/knee joint problem vs going to a medical Dr that would recommend them a surgery ($5,000-20,000), or symptom suppressing drugs (which doesn't help), or 15 sessions of PT (which doesn't help). I provide a valuable service, and people don't mind paying for it. I work hard, seeing aproximately 200 patient visits /week, when I am working, and I do give discounts to people who don't have money to pay my otherwise reasonable fees.

The "known Jewish communist", is known only in your own mind. No one apart from you accuses midnight rambler of being a Jewish communist.

You on the other hand is a supporter of Hillary's candidacy through your Union membership, which gives you a lot of benefits apparently, through your employers cushy government contracts. You are projecting, accusing others of communism, when in fact you are a cog in their system.

My employer happily pays me my wage that the union says are fare and just. In fact, they happily pay me to do a job that Deere contracts us to do.

Kiss my ass douche bag.......do you really think I'm dumb enough to think they pay you what they think you're worth.
If the truth be known your clients already know what you charge before you ever touch them.
Gee you're a fucking dolt to think I'm that naive.

You're a damn hypocrite to say I sold my soul when you wont just work for what you need. You sold your soul for the highest price you can get out of your clients....and nothing less!
You said it yourself that you get paid twice as much and work less and even have months off....the mighty dollar is the bottom line for you isnt it fool?

You're really no different than any union "thug" because you're accepting top dollar (benefit) from clients that you really dont have a clue about their political agenda.
You say I endorse Hillary because of my union membership, but you highly profit from people who might be far worse than Hillary.

Getting what I meant by your hypocrisy?
Probably not............
Didnt think this one thoroughly through did ya moron!?!?
Like I say.......you're amongst the many who arent honest....and I mean down to the bone honesty.
You're a sinner like the rest...but much worse!

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 03:49 PM
My employer happily pays me my wage that the union says are fare and just. In fact, they happily pay me to do a job that Deere contracts us to do.

Kiss my ass douche bag.......do you really think I'm dumb enough to think they pay you what they think you're worth.
If the truth be known your clients already know what you charge before you ever touch them.
Gee you're a fucking dolt to think I'm that naive.

You're a damn hypocrite to say I sold my soul when you wont just work for what you need. You sold your soul for the highest price you can get out of your clients....and nothing less!
You said it yourself that you get paid twice as much and work less and even have months off....the mighty dollar is the bottom line for you isnt it fool?

You're really no different than any union "thug" because you're accepting top dollar (benefit) from clients that you really dont have a clue about their political agenda.
You say I endorse Hillary because of my union membership, but you highly profit from people who might be far worse than Hillary.

Getting what I meant by your hypocrisy?
Probably not............
Didnt think this one thoroughly through did ya moron!?!?
Like I say.......you're amongst the many who arent honest....and I mean down to the bone honesty.
You're a sinner like the rest...but much worse!
You obviously have a problem with free market economics. I am not forcing or coercing anyone to pay my fees. But according to your twisted communist ideology I should only charge what I need. I generally don't choose my patients, they choose me, on occasion I choose not to accept a patient because I don't think I can help them with what concerns them.

I'm sure you could survive fine on $40,000 per year if you worked as a non-union electrician, but somehow you defend and support the Communism rampant in your Union for another $30,000, and I am immoral because I earn my money, twice what you do, on a totally free market, doing an honest job? It is not my job to judge my patients based on what they do, my job is to restore their neuromusculoskeletal system to as optimal function as possible as quickly as possible. Do you go around spewing the bullshit you do here, during your work hours? Do you reject doing a good job on a customer you disagree with their morals? Do you tell your employer you will not do work on government contracts? My professional ethics is to correct people's spines if I consider it to be of benefit to them, I don't really concern myself with their personal ethics, it is none of my business. However I think most of my patients are good people based on the conversations I have with them, and yes many of them are in the top of the Turkish society socioeconomicaly. 7th Trump just because someone is doing well doesn't mean they are evil, and if they are a chiropractic adjustment wouldn't make them worse probably...

And no I can say with certainty that none of my patients are worse than Hillary!

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 04:21 PM
You obviously have a problem with free market economics. I am not forcing or coercing anyone to pay my fees. But according to your twisted communist ideology I should only charge what I need. I generally don't choose my patients, they choose me, on occasion I choose not to accept a patient because I don't think I can help them with what concerns them.

I'm sure you could survive fine on $40,000 per year if you worked as a non-union electrician, but somehow you defend and support the Communism rampant in your Union for another $30,000, and I am immoral because I earn my money, twice what you do, on a totally free market, doing an honest job? It is not my job to judge my patients based on what they do, my job is to restore their neuromusculoskeletal system to as optimal function as possible as quickly as possible. Do you go around spewing the bullshit you do here, during your work hours? Do you reject doing a good job on a customer you disagree with their morals? Do you tell your employer you will not do work on government contracts? My professional ethics is to correct people's spines if I consider it to be of benefit to them, I don't really concern myself with their personal ethics, it is none of my business. However I think most of my patients are good people based on the conversations I have with them, and yes many of them are in the top of the Turkish society socioeconomicaly. 7th Trump just because someone is doing well doesn't mean they are evil, and if they are a chiropractic adjustment wouldn't make them worse probably...

And no I can say with certainty that none of my patients are worse than Hillary!

You're about as intelligent as midnight rambler.
I'm sure you can live well on 40,000.00 a year just as much as I can right?
Right neuro?
Dont do as neuro does but do as he says...bahahahahaha!
I was born at night neuro....but not last night pal!
And you choose to charge your clients a couple of hundred dollars for about 15 minutes. Thats roughly 800 an hour. My employer charges roughly 35.00 an hour for my services.
I make my living in the free market as well. See my employer bids contracts against nonunions and we win (lowest bid wins) and still pay an employee higher wage than the nonunions on the same contract the nonunion would have been awarded.
Really....your clients personal ethics are none of your business but my unions ethics, that I dont necessarily agree with, are huh?
My personal ethics are republic in nature....and I'm the communist here huh?
Theres no difference with you and your clients ethics (politician, union rep, millitary, who knows) as me and my union I belong to...but some how in your twisted mind it makes a difference, but you're an angel all sweet and innocent possible catering to some aweful individuals.
So lets say you have a client that earns millions being a sweat shop owner who votes socialist and is an active supporter of a socialist organization and he pays you the 200.00 you ask for your services.
How can you stand there and say I'm communist because I belong to a union any different than you accepting payment from an active socialist supporter. Your client is going to vote socialist just like a union is going to vote democrat.
This is why I keep saying none of you fools are honest to the bone. You people fool yourself, lie to yourself, point fingers and accuse all while being guilty of the very same thing you accuse others of.

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 04:27 PM
You're about as intelligent as midnight rambler.
I can say with certainty you're not! ;D

Cebu_4_2
22nd February 2016, 04:39 PM
I can say with certainty you're not! ;D

If you werent so far away I would definetely let you crack our backs. I been having it done for a long time and a good hack is very hard to find. Most are gold diggers and complete hacks that are only in it for the money. 90% are like this. I found one young kid doing a special for 99 bux a month. up to 4x a week all inclusive. He did not do xrays or much of anything except the standard crunching. Young to old same shyt, kid is now a millionaire and I asked him if he was doing the 5 year plan, he said that he is going for the 10 year deal. All it takes is a little money to invest and ride it. Must have had a good upbringing. He only works Mon-Thursday. Must be nice to have that stuff planned.

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 05:06 PM
I can say with certainty you're not! ;D

Wow...look at that denial!
Nothing to say huh?
You can stand there telling me I should be able to live off 40,000.00 a year just fine and dandy, but when I ask you the same..........silence!
Cant do it huh?
And you charge $200.00 for 15 minutes to wealthy individuals who could be international bankers sleeping with Soro's.
And I'm a communist.

Bravo Neuro.....hypocrisy at it finest!

Neuro
22nd February 2016, 06:22 PM
Wow...look at that denial!
Nothing to say huh?
You can stand there telling me I should be able to live off 40,000.00 a year just fine and dandy, but when I ask you the same..........silence!
Cant do it huh?
And you charge $200.00 for 15 minutes to wealthy individuals who could be international bankers sleeping with Soro's.
And I'm a communist.

Bravo Neuro.....hypocrisy at it finest!
you can figure out yourself how much I earn per patient by taking 30 weeks times x 200 patient visits. Divided by your salary x 2

7th trump
22nd February 2016, 06:39 PM
you can figure out yourself how much I earn per patient by taking 30 weeks times x 200 patient visits. Divided by your salary x 2

WTF does that have to do with anything?

Ares
22nd February 2016, 07:22 PM
Wow...look at that denial!
Nothing to say huh?
You can stand there telling me I should be able to live off 40,000.00 a year just fine and dandy, but when I ask you the same..........silence!
Cant do it huh?
And you charge $200.00 for 15 minutes to wealthy individuals who could be international bankers sleeping with Soro's.
And I'm a communist.

Bravo Neuro.....hypocrisy at it finest!

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Neuro
23rd February 2016, 02:39 AM
WTF does that have to do with anything?
Your suggestion that I charge $200/ 15 min visit. Obviously you can't do arithmetic, and you have great difficulty in figuring out logical connections. I was trying to help you figuring out how much I was charging per patient...

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 03:31 AM
If you werent so far away I would definetely let you crack our backs. I been having it done for a long time and a good hack is very hard to find. Most are gold diggers and complete hacks that are only in it for the money. 90% are like this. I found one young kid doing a special for 99 bux a month. up to 4x a week all inclusive. He did not do xrays or much of anything except the standard crunching. Young to old same shyt, kid is now a millionaire and I asked him if he was doing the 5 year plan, he said that he is going for the 10 year deal. All it takes is a little money to invest and ride it. Must have had a good upbringing. He only works Mon-Thursday. Must be nice to have that stuff planned.
He is doing a high volume practice probably seeing more than a hundred visits a day, just spending a few minutes a patient. Mine is just medium volume right now I am averaging 35-45 visits a day spending 10-15 minutes per regular visit. I was trying to do a high volume practice in Sweden before moving to Istanbul, but a colleague who was a mason assassinated me professionally, having his mason buddies in local newspaper, police, prosecutor office attack me publically. Lost half my growing practice (which I had started 9 months earlier) overnight and never recovered after that, on the suggestion what I was doing was illegal and unethical. Struggled for another 3-4 years in the same location, before deciding to move to Istanbul, where I had a slow start. I earned way less than $40,000 a year for 5-6 years. Legally they were full of shit, and nothing came of it, but I didn't have the resources to fight back their accusations. But if you googled my name this story came up first, also if you googled "chiropractor" and [town I was working in] it came up on first page.

Interesting times!

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 04:06 AM
Your suggestion that I charge $200/ 15 min visit. Obviously you can't do arithmetic, and you have great difficulty in figuring out logical connections. I was trying to help you figuring out how much I was charging per patient...

You said you have clients that you charge 200 dollars a visit. A visit doesnt take much more than 15 minutes after stating you make twice as much as me and work half the hours.....do the math you projected yourself douche bag.

If 200.00 isnt what you charge then why did you say 200.00?
I dont particularly care for you at all so I'm not going to take the time to answer your ridiculous pathetic riddles. You said patients pay you 200.00 as if your some great chiro....now you're changing your story and expect me to play along with your games.

Basically you play childish games and lie.
Heres an idea moron......dont project yourself as a great chiro that travels all over Europe making 200 a pop and doesnt have to work for two months and then expect people to figure your pathetic ass out.....try just being honest the first go around moron!!!

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 04:08 AM
He is doing a high volume practice probably seeing more than a hundred visits a day, just spending a few minutes a patient. Mine is just medium volume right now I am averaging 35-45 visits a day spending 10-15 minutes per regular visit. I was trying to do a high volume practice in Sweden before moving to Istanbul, but a colleague who was a mason assassinated me professionally, having his mason buddies in local newspaper, police, prosecutor office attack me publically. Lost half my growing practice (which I had started 9 months earlier) overnight and never recovered after that, on the suggestion what I was doing was illegal and unethical. Struggled for another 3-4 years in the same location, before deciding to move to Istanbul, where I had a slow start. I earned way less than $40,000 a year for 5-6 years. Legally they were full of shit, and nothing came of it, but I didn't have the resources to fight back their accusations. But if you googled my name this story came up first, also if you googled "chiropractor" and [town I was working in] it came up on first page.

Interesting times!

Always blaming someone else huh....sounds like you!

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 04:26 AM
You said you have clients that you charge 200 dollars a visit. A visit doesnt take much more than 15 minutes after stating you make twice as much as me and work half the hours.....do the math you projected yourself douche bag.

If 200.00 isnt what you charge then why did you say 200.00?
I dont particularly care for you at all so I'm not going to take the time to answer your ridiculous pathetic riddles. You said patients pay you 200.00 as if your some great chiro....now you're changing your story and expect me to play along with your games.

Basically you play childish games and lie.
Heres an idea moron......dont project yourself as a great chiro that travels all over Europe making 200 a pop and doesnt have to work for two months and then expect people to figure your pathetic ass out.....try just being honest the first go around moron!!!
I didn't say I earned 200.00 a visit. I said I had 200 patient visits a week. Do you hear voices in your head?

I'll help you with the arithmetic, since apparently it is to complicated for you. I earn about $140,000/year and see about 6,000 patient visits (200 visits/week x 30 weeks). $140,000/6000= $23.33/ visit, we actually charge around $40 at current exchange rate, and what is not my earnings is business expenses.

You on the other hand claims that your employer charges $35/hour, and you earn $70,000, that means you have to work 2000 hours/year for your employer to just pay your salary, with taxes and business expenses you have to work probably upwards of 4000 hours, just for your employer to turn a small profit on you... Obviously you don't, just judged by the number of shit posts you contribute to this place. Your salary is subsidized because you are a card carrying communist union member.

Life is good as a communist if you are in communist Illinois. You don't even have to be able to do simple 4th grade math. It's a "riddle" to you... LOL

mick silver
23rd February 2016, 04:33 AM
Have Unions Cheated Death With Scalia Gone?Share ThisUSA (http://nsnbc.me/tag/usa/)Washington D.C. (http://nsnbc.me/tag/washington-d-c/)

Shamus Cooke (nsnbc) : Equality loving people breathed easier after Justice Scalia’s last breath. And labor activists partied like it was New Years Eve. Their would-be hangman dropped dead and unions gained a stay of execution.http://nsnbc.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Scalia_Supreme-Court_USA_TC_Reuters-300x143.jpg (http://nsnbc.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Scalia_Supreme-Court_USA_TC_Reuters.jpg)Reuters

Scalia’s timely departure implies that the landmark union case “Friedrichs vs. California Teachers Association” will be a 4-4 stalemate, meaning the pro-labor status quo prevails. As they cheer the last minute pardon unions shouldn’t forget they’re still on death row. The solace is temporary.Unions can’t assume the next Justice won’t be another Scalia. The worst should be prepared for; being unprepared last time nearly cost labor its head. The same corporate groups who backed Friedrichs will try again, soon, with a fresh case, new plaintiff, and possibly facing an equally anti-union Supreme Court.Obama’s nominee is unlikely to be pro-labor. The old assumption that Democratic presidents appoint pro-labor judges may now be false. Times have changed. Pundits are speculating that Obama will nominate a Judge the Republicans will support. Progressive legal expert Scott Horton spoke on Democracy Now:“… I doubt [the Supreme Court nominee] is going to be the left equivalent of a Nino Scalia. It’s going to be someone who is more of a moderate, more of a centrist, someone who in normal times would be able to count on Republican support.”Nowadays the Republican Party is viciously anti-union. And while Republicans hate several demographics, unions have become — like African Americans in general — a group that Democrats take for granted and attack when convenient.Republicans would be especially excited about an anti-union peace offering from Obama. Such a nominee could represent a “grand bargain” to avoid a constitutional crisis, where Obama is allowed to successfully end his presidency and the right wing maintains its dominant position on the Supreme Court.The Friedrichs case provokes a unique zeal from the right wing because of its vast economic consequences. If unions lose Friedrichs, the labor market would be shifted sharply in favor of corporations. The “natural” pro-corporate laws of the market would accelerate, putting workers at a steeper disadvantage.Wages in the public sector would quickly drop as union density shrinks, creating knock off effects in broader areas of the labor market. Employers would exploit this new leverage at the bargaining table, slashing benefits and lowering wages. An anti-union Friedrichs decision could set a precedent for a national law affecting all unions, public and private sector alike.Would Obama actually please Republicans over the bones of unions? Yes, if his record is any indication. He began his presidency with a super majority in Congress, and instead of the bold pro-labor initiatives he promised, he slammed on the brakes, reaching out to racist Republicans who’d rather torch then touch him. Obama is too smart not to realize he was throwing away his mandate: the big banks that financed his campaign got their money’s worth.When it comes to unions, Obama is a moderate Republican, just like the pro-corporate “Blue Dog” Democrats that run the Democratic Party. Obama’s flagship national educational program, “Race to the Top,” was even more anti-union than George Bush Jr.’s “No Child Left Behind.” The two-party system now bonds over anti-unionism.It’s no coincidence that Obama was completely absent from the two biggest union actions in decades: The 2011 Wisconsin Uprising and the 2012 Chicago Teachers strike. The president’s absence spoke much louder than the few hesitant words he spoke on the subjects.While every Republican in Illinois was mobilizing to attack the Chicago teachers, Obama’s former Chief of Staff was leading the anti-union charge. The battle lines were adjusted to reflect the new political reality: Democrats and Republicans versus the unions.Anti-unionism is now a bipartisan issue. As the big banks boomed, union power shrunk, luring the Democrats further to the right; their stance on labor changed from ambivalence to hatred. Now they are staunchly in the Republican camp on the front lines in the class struggle against unions.This new consensus is reflected in many of Obama’s “top contenders” for Supreme Court nominees. Judge Sri Srinivasan (http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2016/02/15/india-born-justice-sri-srinivasan-among-candidates-to-become-u-s-supreme-court-judge/), who earned his current position on the Court of Appeals by a 97-0 vote of the current Congress, is someone whose name has been broadly discussed. The lack of controversy was due, in part, to his years as a corporate attorney. Corporate attorneys are habitually anti-union.Another top contender is 9th Circuit Judge Paul Watford, yet another corporate attorney who hasn’t dirtied his hands with anything progressive.The two-party system is so anti-union that it’s possible Scalia’s death won’t even matter; a current judge could easily flip on Friedrichs against unions. Scalia’s death doesn’t freeze the anti-union trajectory of the establishment; a lot of momentum has already been built up.The establishment is unlikely to sit on their hands, and unions cannot afford to either. Hoping that a pro-union Justice is appointed is not a political strategy, but Russian Roulette; a tactic that can work for a while but always ends the same.Historically unions have only won at the Supreme Court when expressing their power. The establishment only shows respect when you demand and fight for it.The “progressive” Supreme Court under Warren Burger that favored unions was a response to the mass movements and active labor movement of the 60’s and 70’s. Burger himself was appointed by Nixon, though moved to the left by the political ground shifting beneath his feet.Labor’s biggest Supreme Court victories came during the time of Franklin Delano Roosevelt under a Conservative Supreme Court that was forced to respond to a union-led mass movement. Without mass action the labor movement shrivels.After the nationwide actions of organized labor in the 1970’s, the establishment chose to appease this power. But now they’ve decided to test it, through Friedrichs. Future tests are inevitable.A prior test provoked the Wisconsin Uprising, showing the potential power of all unions. This is why Friedrichs is actually a gamble for the ruling class; they’re hoping that a national version of Wisconsin doesn’t happen. Unions must dash these hopes through organizing and other actions. A quiet labor movement will go quietly to the gallows; and Scalia was preparing the rope when he died.The death of Scalia should empower unions to mobilize, not rest on their already-withered laurels. Without constant pressure the establishment will feel comfortable continuing in an anti-union direction. Power must be met with power.Just like the 15now campaign has been mobilizing at the Democratic debates to amplify their issue, so should unions borrow the tactic to promote a Friedrichs victory. The Democratic nominee must feel the pressure to publicly advocate a pro-union decision.Forcing this issue into the debates would send a very strong message. And organizing mass demonstrations around Friedrichs — as several labor bodies have called for (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g363YavxtPSP2O9RuuqYwC5o9XGjVFPgu2VLXHCjBhE/pub) — will send an even louder message. Unions must re-learn how to express their power. They’ve forgotten, but doing is the best way to learn.S/C – nsnbc 20.02.2016Share:

Ares
23rd February 2016, 04:43 AM
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Scalia’s timely departure implies that the landmark union case “Friedrichs vs. California Teachers Association” will be a 4-4 stalemate, meaning the pro-labor status quo prevails. As they cheer the last minute pardon unions shouldn’t forget they’re still on death row. The solace is temporary.

Unions can’t assume the next Justice won’t be another Scalia. The worst should be prepared for; being unprepared last time nearly cost labor its head. The same corporate groups who backed Friedrichs will try again, soon, with a fresh case, new plaintiff, and possibly facing an equally anti-union Supreme Court.

Obama’s nominee is unlikely to be pro-labor. The old assumption that Democratic presidents appoint pro-labor judges may now be false. Times have changed. Pundits are speculating that Obama will nominate a Judge the Republicans will support. Progressive legal expert Scott Horton spoke on Democracy Now:

“… I doubt [the Supreme Court nominee] is going to be the left equivalent of a Nino Scalia. It’s going to be someone who is more of a moderate, more of a centrist, someone who in normal times would be able to count on Republican support.”

Nowadays the Republican Party is viciously anti-union. And while Republicans hate several demographics, unions have become — like African Americans in general — a group that Democrats take for granted and attack when convenient.

Republicans would be especially excited about an anti-union peace offering from Obama. Such a nominee could represent a “grand bargain” to avoid a constitutional crisis, where Obama is allowed to successfully end his presidency and the right wing maintains its dominant position on the Supreme Court.

The Friedrichs case provokes a unique zeal from the right wing because of its vast economic consequences. If unions lose Friedrichs, the labor market would be shifted sharply in favor of corporations. The “natural” pro-corporate laws of the market would accelerate, putting workers at a steeper disadvantage.

Wages in the public sector would quickly drop as union density shrinks, creating knock off effects in broader areas of the labor market. Employers would exploit this new leverage at the bargaining table, slashing benefits and lowering wages. An anti-union Friedrichs decision could set a precedent for a national law affecting all unions, public and private sector alike.

Would Obama actually please Republicans over the bones of unions? Yes, if his record is any indication. He began his presidency with a super majority in Congress, and instead of the bold pro-labor initiatives he promised, he slammed on the brakes, reaching out to racist Republicans who’d rather torch then touch him. Obama is too smart not to realize he was throwing away his mandate: the big banks that financed his campaign got their money’s worth.

When it comes to unions, Obama is a moderate Republican, just like the pro-corporate “Blue Dog” Democrats that run the Democratic Party. Obama’s flagship national educational program, “Race to the Top,” was even more anti-union than George Bush Jr.’s “No Child Left Behind.” The two-party system now bonds over anti-unionism.

It’s no coincidence that Obama was completely absent from the two biggest union actions in decades: The 2011 Wisconsin Uprising and the 2012 Chicago Teachers strike. The president’s absence spoke much louder than the few hesitant words he spoke on the subjects.

While every Republican in Illinois was mobilizing to attack the Chicago teachers, Obama’s former Chief of Staff was leading the anti-union charge. The battle lines were adjusted to reflect the new political reality: Democrats and Republicans versus the unions.

Anti-unionism is now a bipartisan issue. As the big banks boomed, union power shrunk, luring the Democrats further to the right; their stance on labor changed from ambivalence to hatred. Now they are staunchly in the Republican camp on the front lines in the class struggle against unions.

This new consensus is reflected in many of Obama’s “top contenders” for Supreme Court nominees. Judge Sri Srinivasan, who earned his current position on the Court of Appeals by a 97-0 vote of the current Congress, is someone whose name has been broadly discussed. The lack of controversy was due, in part, to his years as a corporate attorney. Corporate attorneys are habitually anti-union.

Another top contender is 9th Circuit Judge Paul Watford, yet another corporate attorney who hasn’t dirtied his hands with anything progressive.

The two-party system is so anti-union that it’s possible Scalia’s death won’t even matter; a current judge could easily flip on Friedrichs against unions. Scalia’s death doesn’t freeze the anti-union trajectory of the establishment; a lot of momentum has already been built up.

The establishment is unlikely to sit on their hands, and unions cannot afford to either. Hoping that a pro-union Justice is appointed is not a political strategy, but Russian Roulette; a tactic that can work for a while but always ends the same.

Historically unions have only won at the Supreme Court when expressing their power. The establishment only shows respect when you demand and fight for it.

The “progressive” Supreme Court under Warren Burger that favored unions was a response to the mass movements and active labor movement of the 60’s and 70’s. Burger himself was appointed by Nixon, though moved to the left by the political ground shifting beneath his feet.

Labor’s biggest Supreme Court victories came during the time of Franklin Delano Roosevelt under a Conservative Supreme Court that was forced to respond to a union-led mass movement. Without mass action the labor movement shrivels.

After the nationwide actions of organized labor in the 1970’s, the establishment chose to appease this power. But now they’ve decided to test it, through Friedrichs. Future tests are inevitable.

A prior test provoked the Wisconsin Uprising, showing the potential power of all unions. This is why Friedrichs is actually a gamble for the ruling class; they’re hoping that a national version of Wisconsin doesn’t happen. Unions must dash these hopes through organizing and other actions. A quiet labor movement will go quietly to the gallows; and Scalia was preparing the rope when he died.

The death of Scalia should empower unions to mobilize, not rest on their already-withered laurels. Without constant pressure the establishment will feel comfortable continuing in an anti-union direction. Power must be met with power.

Just like the 15now campaign has been mobilizing at the Democratic debates to amplify their issue, so should unions borrow the tactic to promote a Friedrichs victory. The Democratic nominee must feel the pressure to publicly advocate a pro-union decision.

Forcing this issue into the debates would send a very strong message. And organizing mass demonstrations around Friedrichs — as several labor bodies have called for — will send an even louder message. Unions must re-learn how to express their power. They’ve forgotten, but doing is the best way to learn.

http://nsnbc.me/2016/02/20/have-unions-cheated-death-with-scalia-gone/

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 05:06 AM
I didn't say I earned 200.00 a visit. I said I had 200 patient visits a week. Do you hear voices in your head?

I'll help you with the arithmetic, since apparently it is to complicated for you. I earn about $140,000/year and see about 6,000 patient visits (200 visits/week x 30 weeks). $140,000/6000= $23.33/ visit, we actually charge around $40 at current exchange rate, and what is not my earnings is business expenses.

You on the other hand claims that your employer charges $35/hour, and you earn $70,000, that means you have to work 2000 hours/year for your employer to just pay your salary, with taxes and business expenses you have to work probably upwards of 4000 hours, just for your employer to turn a small profit on you... Obviously you don't, just judged by the number of shit posts you contribute to this place. Your salary is subsidized because you are a card carrying communist union member.

Life is good as a communist if you are in communist Illinois. LOL

Hey stupid.
I work a normal 40 hour week plus some over time. That 35 an hour is what he needs to cover me minimally...I bet he charges higher than that plus a little more for profit. Doesnt matter because the nonunion contractor is competing for the same contract while paying lower scale for his workers.
I dont live in illinois moron...I live in Iowa.

I could care less about how many posts I make or anyone makes to this forum like you do...thats really kind of stupid to rate someone on how many posts they have dont ya think?
Time to grow up neuro.....I suppose you're the type of moron that thinks you need to be seen at starbucks too and only wear designer clothes....(puke).

Nice stab at trying to piss me off with that childish communist yapping. You remind of the stupid kids who live in clicks and have to be someone to be someone....grow up neuro....nobody gives a fuck about how much you make or wear you live or travel too.
Istanbul is a muslim shit hole that supports isis to be chased out of Sweden to go live......hahahaha!

mick silver
23rd February 2016, 05:07 AM
Dreams from My Real Father: A Story of Reds and Deception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jrrnkKmUzo&feature=youtu.be

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 05:25 AM
Hey stupid.
I work a normal 40 hour week plus some over time. That 35 an hour is what he needs to cover me minimally...I bet he charges higher than that plus a little more for profit. Doesnt matter because the nonunion contractor is competing for the same contract while paying lower scale for his workers.
I dont live in illinois moron...I live in Iowa.
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Copied from your post #42


My employer charges roughly 35.00 an hour for my services

So you work roughly 2000 hours a year, knowing a bit about your trade he can't charge his customers for every hour you are at work, so let's say 1600 hours a year of chargeable hours. That's $56,000, you 'earn' $70,000 in salary, with taxes and business expenses (admin/office expenses/cars) your cost to him is way above $100,000/year, so every year he makes a loss of at least $50,000 for having the pleasure of you working for him... Being a card carrying commie has sure worked out well for you Trumpstein.

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 05:57 AM
Copied from your post #42



So you work roughly 2000 hours a year, knowing a bit about your trade he can't charge his customers for every hour you are at work, so let's say 1600 hours a year of chargeable hours. That's $56,000, you 'earn' $70,000 in salary, with taxes and business expenses (admin/office expenses/cars) your cost to him is way above $100,000/year, so every year he makes a loss of at least $50,000 for having the pleasure of you working for him... Being a card carrying commie has sure worked out well for you Trumpstein.

Didnt think you had a clue.
If I was a loss I wouldn't be working for him nor would the other 400 employees.
All hours are billed to the job....I should know I fill out my time sheet with job numbers to be billed for what amount of time I spend at each job.

We win contracts that have overtime built in.
Love how you just pridefully assume to justify your ignorance that you don't know shit about the company I work for or how its run.
You really think your childish comments about communism is working to piss me off?
I'll clue you in again moron....it doesnt!!

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 06:09 AM
I could care less about how many posts I make or anyone makes to this forum like you do...thats really kind of stupid to rate someone on how many posts they have dont ya think?
Time to grow up neuro.....I suppose you're the type of moron that thinks you need to be seen at starbucks too and only wear designer clothes....(puke).

Nice stab at trying to piss me off with that childish communist yapping. You remind of the stupid kids who live in clicks and have to be someone to be someone....grow up neuro....nobody gives a fuck about how much you make or wear you live or travel too.
Istanbul is a muslim shit hole that supports isis to be chased out of Sweden to go live......hahahaha!
Nope, I don't wear designer clothes, and I don't go to cafe's either. You can't make it in the real world 7th, that's why you are a card carrying communist union salaried employee who only can work with oversight from a boss, that brings in the customers and tells you what to do. If you had any drive at all you'ld be a private contractor since many years ago. Instead you sit and make up fantasy positions for people who expose your weak minded argumentation, calling them communists, while in reality you are the communist.

Yes Turkey supports ISIS, and US supports Turkey. I have posted a lot about this here, what have you done apart from talking shit about the membership here, and accused Russia, who fights ISIS, of being communist... Newsflash! Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, US is more communist than Russia is today, you are totally clueless of reality!

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 06:14 AM
Didnt think you had a clue.
If I was a loss I wouldn't be working for him nor would the other 400 employees.
All hours are billed to the job....I should know I fill out my time sheet with job numbers to be billed for what amount of time I spend at each job.

We win contracts that have overtime built in.
Love how you just pridefully assume to justify your ignorance that you don't know shit about the company I work for or how its run.
You really think your childish comments about communism is working to piss me off?
I'll clue you in again moron....it doesnt!!
Of course I don't know more about the company than you tell me. I figured you knew what you were talking about when you wrote this:
"My employer charges roughly 35.00 an hour for my services"

Obviously you just make up shit, and assume that people are as clueless as you are and won't call you out on it! You don't even know what your employer charges for your time to the companies you do work for!

I haven't met a single electrician before, who don't know the hourly rate their employer send them out on the contracts for. You sure are special Trump! ;D

You are very naive if you think the employer is going to bill for all the hours you are on a job. If you are late on the schedule or go and correct a mistake one of your co-workers made (the opposite is of course an impossibility..), your employer won't bill for that time. This is the reason why it would be a very bad idea for you to go out in the real business world Trump, you really are clueless!

Santa
23rd February 2016, 07:27 AM
Really?
So according to you I sold my soul to make a better living as a union electrician that competes with nonunion contractor for the same contract (lowest bid) and you didn't sell your soul to TAKE more money rather than only taking what you need?

See your arrogant hypocrisy?
And what is cute is you have a known jewish communist cheering you on.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs


"Although Marx is popularly thought of as the originator of the phrase, the slogan was common to the socialist movement and was first used by Louis Blanc in 1851. The origin of this phrasing has also been attributed to the French utopian Étienne-Gabriel Morelly, who proposed in his 1755 Code of Nature "Sacred and Fundamental Laws that would tear out the roots of vice and of all the evils of a society"

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 07:38 AM
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs


"Although Marx is popularly thought of as the originator of the phrase, the slogan was common to the socialist movement and was first used by Louis Blanc in 1851. The origin of this phrasing has also been attributed to the French utopian Étienne-Gabriel Morelly, who proposed in his 1755 Code of Nature "Sacred and Fundamental Laws that would tear out the roots of vice and of all the evils of a society"
Correct, this is pure Marxism! Trump says I should only get what I need (and what I need is his salary), if you do a good job and earn more than you need (Trumps salary) you have sold your soul. Joining a communist Union only for the purpose of earning more, isn't selling your soul though...

When he is accusing others of being commies he projects!

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 08:02 AM
Of course I don't know more about the company than you tell me. I figured you knew what you were talking about when you wrote this:
"My employer charges roughly 35.00 an hour for my services"

Obviously you just make up shit, and assume that people are as clueless as you are and won't call you out on it! You don't even know what your employer charges for your time to the companies you do work for!

I haven't met a single electrician before, who don't know the hourly rate their employer send them out on the contracts for. You sure are special Trump! ;D

You are very naive if you think the employer is going to bill for all the hours you are on a job. If you are late on the schedule or go and correct a mistake one of your co-workers made (the opposite is of course an impossibility..), your employer won't bill for that time. This is the reason why it would be a very bad idea for you to go out in the real business world Trump, you really are clueless!

Whats so hard to comprehend here?
My wages plus health and welfare is roughly 35.00 dollars and hour. That's minimum he has to incorporate into a bid x how many hours to do the job......that's no profit added.
No the employer doesn't bill the time for screw ups and mistakes........we have to go back on our own time and fix our mistakes.
No I'm not an estimator and I do not go to the shop to full know what the employer charges. I do know they mark up material by 7% tho.

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 08:06 AM
Correct, this is pure Marxism! Trump says I should only get what I need (and what I need is his salary), if you do a good job and earn more than you need (Trumps salary) you have sold your soul. Joining a communist Union only for the purpose of earning more, isn't selling your soul though...

When he is accusing others of being commies he projects!

Now you're making shit up.
You said I should live on 40,000.00 just nicely......so I suggested you try just living on what you need instead of earning 150,000.00.
Whats good for the gander is also good for the goose....right?


SO you are delusional.........midnight defends communist with vigor and posts how great communism is......is some how now projecting huh?

Boy you're screwed in the head.......making shit up now.

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 09:42 AM
Now you're making shit up.
You said I should live on 40,000.00 just nicely......so I suggested you try just living on what you need instead of earning 150,000.00.
Whats good for the gander is also good for the goose....right?


SO you are delusional.........midnight defends communist with vigor and posts how great communism is......is some how now projecting huh?

Boy you're screwed in the head.......making shit up now.
;D I am not saying you should live on $40,000, you said yourself you'ld have to live on $40,000 unless you belonged to the commie union. So essentially you are prepared to sell your own morals for $30,000/year. However perhaps it wasn't so difficult since you support central Marxist doctrine.

You really are FUNNY 7th! ;D

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 09:49 AM
Whats so hard to comprehend here?
My wages plus health and welfare is roughly 35.00 dollars and hour. That's minimum he has to incorporate into a bid x how many hours to do the job......that's no profit added.
No the employer doesn't bill the time for screw ups and mistakes........we have to go back on our own time and fix our mistakes.
No I'm not an estimator and I do not go to the shop to full know what the employer charges. I do know they mark up material by 7% tho.
I thought you had opted out of social security 7th? Was that a lie too? You don't know what the customer pays for your service, because you are not an estimator? LOL! You are the gift that keeps on giving! LMAO!

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 09:54 AM
sell your soul to TAKE more money rather than only taking what you need?


From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs


"Although Marx is popularly thought of as the originator of the phrase, the slogan was common to the socialist movement and was first used by Louis Blanc in 1851. The origin of this phrasing has also been attributed to the French utopian Étienne-Gabriel Morelly, who proposed in his 1755 Code of Nature "Sacred and Fundamental Laws that would tear out the roots of vice and of all the evils of a society"


+1

Now that we've established that 7th trumpstein is a bona fide card-carrying Communist how can anyone believe anything a dyed in the wool Communist has to say??

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 10:18 AM
I thought you had opted out of social security 7th? Was that a lie too? You don't know what the customer pays for your service, because you are not an estimator? LOL! You are the gift that keeps on giving! LMAO!

I most certainly did opt out of Social Security. It's origins are communist.
Anyway what does me opting out have to with anything? Whats your spin on this gonna be I wonder?

The wage scale is set by the union....the employer cannot pay me less than scale, so explain your spin why you would bring in SS?

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 10:23 AM
+1

Now that we've established that 7th trumpstein is a bona fide card-carrying Communist how can anyone believe anything a dyed in the wool Communist has to say??

Please inquiring minds would like to know who you concluded I'm a card carrying commy?
Care to explain or is this gonna be one of your golden moments where you say "OMG......I cant believe you cannot connect the dots"...accusations you're famous for.

I'm dyed in the wool communist when you posts pictures of commy murdering machines and carry on how they are so great and defend the commies for copying design and stealing tech from America?

The B29 was a direct copy.
The space shuttle was another copy.
Copied the F15.

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 10:25 AM
;D I am not saying you should live on $40,000, you said yourself you'ld have to live on $40,000 unless you belonged to the commie union. So essentially you are prepared to sell your own morals for $30,000/year. However perhaps it wasn't so difficult since you support central Marxist doctrine.

You really are FUNNY 7th! ;D

Hahahaha....why settle for less.....you don't!
The IBEW was around before Marx ever became famous.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 10:27 AM
Hahahaha....why settle for less.....you don't!
The IBEW was around before Marx ever became famous.

How completely disingenuous. Marx was directly involved in the founding the very origins of labor unions, i.e. the International Workmen's Association.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 10:30 AM
Please inquiring minds would like to know who you concluded I'm a card carrying commy?

You're a self-admitted proud card carrying member of a labor union, and EVERYONE who knows history KNOWS labor unions were directly spawned by Karl Marx (via the International Workmen's Association), author of the Communist Manifesto.

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 10:35 AM
How completely disingenuous. Marx was directly involved in the founding the very origins of labor unions, i.e. the International Workmen's Association.
7th Trump mistakes Karl with Groucho...

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 10:39 AM
I most certainly did opt out of Social Security. It's origins are communist.
Anyway what does me opting out have to with anything? Whats your spin on this gonna be I wonder?

The wage scale is set by the union....the employer cannot pay me less than scale, so explain your spin why you would bring in SS?
You mentioned above that your employer payed fees for health and welfare... Sounds like social security to me, no?

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 10:48 AM
You're a self-admitted proud card carrying member of a labor union, and EVERYONE who knows history KNOWS labor unions were directly spawned by Karl Marx (via the International Workmen's Association), author of the Communist Manifesto.

Now you're just making shit up on speculation.

You mean to tell everyone that ALL labor unions are a spawn of Karl Marx. According to Wikipedia Marx went to trade unions to recruit them into the IWA....hmmm doesn't sound like Marx started the trade unions to me
Gee the IWA was founded in London in 1864 and pretty much stayed in Europe....The IWA was never in the US. The IWA dissolved just a few short years after.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 10:48 AM
Copied the F15.

In your deluded thinking. The first prototype of the T-10, what became the Su-27, killed two test pilots before a radical redesign to the current configuration which is now regarded worldwide as the paragon of Gen 4++ air superiority fighters.

So if what you're asserting is in fact true that the 'Soviets' (which in reality exist more in The District than in Moscow at this point lol) 'copied' the F-15 then they copied a flawed design, amIrite?

What a real piece of shit the F-15 is. This is the USAF's own animation of a F-15 self-destructing (and ALL the pilot was doing at the time was executing a roll) -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R7BWrqmgac

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 10:52 AM
You mentioned above that your employer payed fees for health and welfare... Sounds like social security to me, no?

Nope...we're self insured ...as in privately insured.
I used that we are self insured to prove to the SSA I don't need them.
Yeah they gave me the canned letter stating without participating they couldn't credit my SS account. I told them I don't need SSA account and theres no law stating participating in SS is compulsive....and I'm privately insured with a better pension.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 10:52 AM
You mean to tell everyone that ALL labor unions are a spawn of Karl Marx.

I'm merely repeating what the historical record tells us. YOU are the one trying to rewrite history. lol

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 10:55 AM
7th Trump mistakes Karl with Groucho...

Yeah, I'm thinking you nailed it.

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 10:55 AM
In your deluded thinking. The first prototype of the T-10, what became the Su-27, killed two test pilots before a radical redesign to the current configuration which is now regarded worldwide as the paragon of Gen 4++ air superiority fighters.

So if what you're asserting is in fact true that the 'Soviets' (which in reality exist more in The District than in Moscow at this point lol) 'copied' the F-15 then they copied a flawed design, amIrite?

What a real piece of shit. This is the USAF's own animation of a F-15 self-destructing (and ALL the pilot was doing at the time was executing a roll) -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R7BWrqmgac

So an animation is now proof all F15 break up in flight?
I've never heard of one breaking up in flight.....in fact one lost a complete wing and flew home. No Russian plane has ever done that.

BTW, thanks again for showing everyone your true commy colors......I don't lie when I say your a pro Russian communist.

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 10:57 AM
I'm merely repeating what the historical record tells us. YOU are the one trying to rewrite history. lol

What historical records?
Or are you making shit up again....like you always do?

Have an official link stating so or is your hearsay good enough?

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 11:09 AM
So an animation is now proof all F15 break up in flight?

The truth is that the USAF did a thorough investigation into the structural flaws inherent in the F-15 which POTENTIALLY can result in catastrophic failure (WHICH IN FACT DID OCCUR) and total loss of the aircraft along with killing the pilot.


I've never heard of one breaking up in flight.....

Due to:

1) you're blind
2) you're not paying attention
3) you're being willfully ignorant
4) you suffer from rectal-cranial inversion
5) all of the above
?


No Russian plane has ever done that.

Yeah, and no F-15 has flown for hundreds of miles in level flight until it ran out of fuel UNMANNED AND NOT UNDER HUMAN CONTROL WHATSOEVER after a test pilot mistakenly ejected out of a Su-27 (he was ordered to as a result of the aircraft being in a flat spin aka as 'a stupor' by the Russians [a condition resulting in the aircraft being unresponsive to flight surface controls due to loss of control during high angle of attack flight aka high alpha]. After the pilot ejected the now empty Su-27 lacking a canopy exited the flat spin on it's own, naturally, and then proceeded on level flight until out of fuel. No F-15 has ever done THAT. lol FWIW, the Russians learned from that incident where the test pilot did not eject is a Su-27 will NATURALLY EXIT A FLAT SPIN ON ITS OWN if the pilot simply takes his hand off the stick, something the F-15 will NEVER do. Should a USAF pilot have his aircraft get into a flat spin then he has a very serious problem in getting it back to normal flight.

BTW, the incident concerning 'landing a F-15 with only one wing' was the direct result of your heroes the Zionists and their numbskull pilots having a mid-air collusion during training. They just as likely could have lost two aircraft as well as one.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 11:17 AM
What historical records?
Or are you making shit up again....like you always do?

Have an official link stating so or is your hearsay good enough?

I posted info regarding that earlier in this thread however it appears you have chosen to be willfully ignorant yet again. lol

You most really enjoy being in league with your Communist brethren and sisters in the likes of such unions as the SEIU, which is why you're being so defensive.

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 11:43 AM
I posted info regarding that earlier in this thread however it appears you have chosen to be willfully ignorant yet again. lol

You most really enjoy being in league with your Communist brethren and sisters in the likes of such unions as the SEIU, which is why you're being so defensive.

Hahaha......you mean those two links that didn't support your claim?
One about the IWA (which did the opposite of what you claim. Marx tried to recruit the already established unions, European organizations, not US unions)
Then the other link which was basically a biography of Marx ( said nothing about being any founder of unions)

Yeah I looked at them....those weren't proof except to show everyone you post links in hopes everyone would just accept your word (lies).
Good try tho considering you failed yet again!

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 11:49 AM
Unions by their very nature are collectivist (which IS Communist), there can be NO denying that.

'Collective bargaining' lol -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_bargaining

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 11:50 AM
I posted info regarding that earlier in this thread however it appears you have chosen to be willfully ignorant yet again. lol

You most really enjoy being in league with your Communist brethren and sisters in the likes of such unions as the SEIU, which is why you're being so defensive.

Never heard of the SEIU before....is this more projection from you?
Come on midnight.....admit to it!
Your just amking shit up again

Oh my God they must be some commy bastards to unionize. How dare they join together and be united.
Commies like you don't like people uniting for a cause.

Ahhh heck....who am I kidding your puss is hurting because you failed again at convincing your lies are truths.
Just throwing anything and everything to hopes some of your shit sticks.

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 11:53 AM
Unions by their very nature are collectivist (which IS Communist), there can be NO denying that.

'Collective bargaining' lol -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_bargaining

What's wrong with collectivist?
Just people getting together to fight for a better life rather than a company exposing them to harmful practices......is that communism midnight?
Ohh wait ....in your demented mind it might be communism.


The USofA is a collective and a union.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 11:55 AM
You're denying your own UNION brethren and sisters. lol

The Service Employees International Union* represents almost 1.9 million workers. You cannot POSSIBLY be SO clueless you've never heard of the SEIU! One would have to be living in a cave in order to not know about the influence of the Communist SEIU -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Employees_International_Union

*note the interjection of the term 'International' in there? paying homage to your hero Karl (not Groucho) Marx

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 11:56 AM
What's wrong with collectivist?...The USofA is a collective and a union.

TRANSLATION: I'm a PROUD Communist! How dare you question my commitment to Communism!

And there you have it. lol

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 12:00 PM
TRANSLATION: I'm a PROUD Communist! How dare you question my commitment to Communism!

And there you have it. lol

Paraphrase: I'm throwing everything I can get my hands on in hopes I get something to stick. 7th trump is kicking my ass as he proves me wrong again and again..........something has to stick...please palani come and help me....someone bail me out.....I'm sinking here!

7th trump
23rd February 2016, 12:03 PM
You're denying your own UNION brethren and sisters. lol

The Service Employees International Union* represents almost 1.9 million workers. You cannot POSSIBLY be SO clueless you've never heard of the SEIU! One would have to be living in a cave in order to not know about the influence of the Communist SEIU -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Employees_International_Union

*note the interjection of the term 'International' in there? paying homage to your hero Karl (not Groucho) Marx

Wow...sure are desperate are you.
Are you really demonstrating in front of everyone here that you're "stupid as stupid does"?
IBEW has "international" also....doesn't mean I belong to the SEIU.....I don't pay their dues and they don't pay our dues.
The ABC is also a union for nonunion contractors.....why aren't you throwing the sink at them?

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 12:05 PM
You've been such a good doggy today, here's a whole bag of bully sticks for you since I know how much you like spending time relaxing chewing on dried out steer penises -

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0397/8497/products/25pack2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1406827435

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 12:06 PM
Never heard of the SEIU before....is this more projection from you?
Come on midnight.....admit to it!
Your just amking shit up again

Oh my God they must be some commy bastards to unionize. How dare they join together and be united.
Commies like you don't like people uniting for a cause.

Ahhh heck....who am I kidding your puss is hurting because you failed again at convincing your lies are truths.
So you are united, most members in your union according to you are Republican, but the union supports Hillary. They don't really represent you at all are they? Why is that? You say you pay $1.14/day but at the same time you claim to get benefits from them, that are worth magnitudes of what you are paying. Where do they get the funding from?

Santa
23rd February 2016, 12:06 PM
Follow the timeline. Communism preceded Labor Unions and was a major influence on their later development.

"The Communist Manifesto (originally Manifesto of the Communist Party) is an 1848 political pamphlet by German philosophers Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Commissioned by the Communist League and originally published in London (in the German language as Manifest der kommunistischen Partei) just as the revolutions of 1848 began to erupt."

"The International Workingmen's Association (IWA, 1864–1876), often called the First International, was an international organization which aimed at uniting a variety of different left-wing socialist, communist[1] and anarchist political groups and trade union organizations that were based on the working class and class struggle. It was founded in 1864 in a workmen's meeting held in St Martin's Hall, London. Its first congress was held in 1866 in Geneva.

In Europe, a period of harsh reaction followed the widespread Revolutions of 1848. The next major phase of revolutionary activity began almost twenty years later with the founding of the IWA in 1864. At its peak, the IWA reported having 8 million members, while police reported 5 million."

Unions began forming in the mid-19th century in response to the social and economic impact of the industrial revolution. National labor unions began to form in the post-Civil War Era. The Knights of Labor emerged as a major force in the late 1880s, but it collapsed because of poor organization, lack of effective leadership, disagreement over goals, and strong opposition from employers and government forces.

The American Federation of Labor, founded in 1886 and led by Samuel Gompers until his death in 1924, proved much more durable. It arose as a loose coalition of various local unions. It helped coordinate and support strikes and eventually became a major player in national politics, usually on the side of the Democrats.

American labor unions benefitted greatly from the New Deal policies of Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the 1930s. The Wagner Act, in particular, legally protected the right of unions to organize. Unions from this point developed increasingly closer ties to the Democratic Party, and are considered a backbone element of the New Deal Coalition."

"Samuel Gompers was born on January 27, 1850, in London, into a Jewish family which originally hailed from Amsterdam."
Gompers studied at night school, during which time he learned Hebrew and studied the Talmud, a process which he long later recalled was akin to studying law.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 12:07 PM
Poor 7th trumpstein, unable to make the connection between the International Brotherhood of whatever and international Communism.

Neuro
23rd February 2016, 12:15 PM
Poor 7th trumpstein, unable to make the connection between the International Brotherhood of whatever and international Communism.
He would join the Muslim brotherhood also if he would get $30,000 more!

Ares
23rd February 2016, 03:22 PM
Awesome timeline Santa. Nails it down to a "T" on how Unions have their beginnings as Communists organizations.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 05:18 PM
You've been such a good doggy today, here's a whole bag of bully sticks for you since I know how much you like spending time relaxing chewing on dried out steer penises -

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(Trumpstein occupied quietly over in the corner for a few hours now devouring his fresh stack of bully sticks - watch him, he'll come back angrier than ever tomorrow wanting more. Just like a typical collectivist [Communist] union member.)

midnight rambler
23rd February 2016, 05:30 PM
collectivism

Collectivism is a political theory associated with communism. More broadly, it is the idea that people should prioritize the good of society over the welfare of the individual.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/collectivism