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Spectrism
24th February 2016, 10:02 AM
This seems to be reaching a very dangerous point. Hal Turner gives some interesting insights.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkfMZPZe638&feature=youtu.be


Write up here-
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/930

RADIO SHOW: Saudis, UAE Staging Troops in Lebanon for Damascus Attack; Turk Navy Deployed to Med to destroy Russian air defenses of Syria! Citizens told GET OUT of LEBANON IMMEDIATELY! Newsroom - Feb 23, 2016


Realizing a massive invasion of Syria would provoke a Tactical Nuclear response by Russia, the Saudis and Turks changed strategy: neutralize Russia first, take Damascus in one fell swoop, with troops sent covertly as tourists inside nearby countries!
In a staggering and cunning change, Saudi Arabia and its "Arab Coalition against Terrorism" as well as Turkey have changed plans from an initial, massive invasion from Saudi Arabia, through Jordan to Syria. Once that plan for a massive invasion became obvious, and the tactical nuclear response to such an invasion became inevitable, the Saudis and Turks had to switch gears and form a new plan.
They have now commenced that new plan - an order of magnitude more cunning and perhaps even MORE outrageous - to neutralize Russia (inside Syria) first, then take Syria by directly attacking Damascus.
During a one hour radio show, a New York City radio talk-show host revealed the details. You can listen to that radio show via Youtube at https://youtu.be/EkfMZPZe638
The map below gives you a layout of the area involved:



CITIZENS TOLD TO LEAVE LEBANON IMMEDIATELY - SUBS DEPLOYED Hints that something was afoot came this morning when Saudi Arabia (SA) publicly warned its citizens not to travel to Lebanon and told any Saudis inside Lebanon to leave immediately. About two hours later, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) told its citizens the exact same thing.
SuperStation95 made a quick inquiry to our sources in the Pentagon and they confirm that days ago, Turkey, SA and other Arab Colaition https://cdn.superstation95.com/images/TurkSubBosporus.jpgcountries ordered re-deployment of submarines, into the eastern Mediterranean Sea, some told to take up station west of Latakia, Syria and others told to take up station southwest of Tartus, Syria. Both those places are the location of Russian bases and troops inside Syria. It is widely believed the submarines are targeting Russian ships which are equipped with the advanced S-300 or S-400 anti-missile system.
Upon receiving an attack order, those submarines will fire torpedoes at the Russian vessels patrolling the Mediterranean near Syria AND FIRE AT SHIPS DOCKED IN TARTUS AND LATAKIA, with the intent of disabling (not sinking) them, to neutralize the anti-aircraft capabilities of those ships.
Since the Turks, Saudis and other nations in the "Arab Coalition against Terrorism" ALL have submarines, there will be no way to tell which nation is responsible for attacking the Russian ships. All of them will have "plausible deniability!"
Once the ships on patrol and those in port are disabled, there will be a gaping hole in the air defenses protecting Syria. At that time, warplanes from Incirlick Air Base in Turkey will commence attacks into Syria, through that air defense gap, and attack Damascus directly.


COVERT TROOP and SUPPLY MOVEMENTS INTO LEBANON, JORDAN In preparation for this new plan, for over a week, Thousands of troops from the "Arab Coalition against Terrorism" have been quietly traveling in small groups, as "Tourists" into LEBANON, as well as to Amman, Jordan.
It is now also known that the Israeli government has been quietly working with Jordan and Saudi Arabia to prepare for a large force of Arab troops to USE THE GOLAN HEIGHTS to travel north into Syria, to attack Damascus and topple its President Assad.
Our source in the Pentagon told us "It is in Israel's interest to overthrow Assad because in doing so, they get to keep the Golan Heights which for years, they have only occupied." By working with Arabs to achieve this purpose, Israel is generating good will inside Arab nations with the goal of long term peace and stability! The fact Israel has authorized armed Arab troops to move, en masse, through the Golan Heights, is a risk for Israel, but one they believe will foster trust with the (new) Syrian regime. (By deception they shall wage war.)
Cargo ships carrying container loads of weapons and supplies, have been traveling up the Suez Canal, docking in Lebanon, and unloading containers of weapons and ammunition to warehouses outside Beirut.
The covert troops are then called to come to the various warehouses to pick up the weapons they will use.

TARGET: DAMASCUS It is only about 60 miles from Beirut, Lebanon, to Damascus, Syria. It is about 80 miles from the Golan Heights to Damascus.

According to our sources, there are already over thirty thousand troops covertly inside Lebanon and the number is growing by the hour.
In addition, we are told there are over fifty-thousand troops inside Jordan, filling hotels and apartments throughout the Amman area.
Of course, there are still about 150,000 troops in northern Saudi Arabia for their "military exercise."
Before the attacks commence, Turkey will move troops across the Syrian Border near Azaz to commence the fighting and draw attention to this area; an area where a Turkish invasion has been expected for weeks. As this fighting gets severe, troops in Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia will be quietly on the move, north, into Jordan.
According to our sources, the covert troops will move from Amman, Jordan, into the Golan Heights, with orders to attack Damascus from the SOUTH. Their colleagues from Beirut will move to attack Damascus from the WEST. At the same time, the remaining 150,000 troops, still participating in the "exercise" in Saudi Arabia which began last week, will move from Saudi Arabia into Jordan, crossing into Syria to strike Damascus from the EAST, perhaps branching off prior to arrival to also attack from the NORTH. The blue lines on the map below show the ground invasions:


Due to the significant land distance involved, each segment of troops will be required to begin moving at different times. This will be the only alert/advance warning the Syrians and Russians will have that the attack is on.

FRANCE EXPEDITES A CARRIER BATTLE GROUP TO THE MED Within the last 24 hours, France - who opposes Russia's participation in Syria -- suddenly ordered its only aircraft Carrier, the Charles DeGaulle and its Battle Group, to proceed "forthwith"from the Persian Gulf to the eastern Mediterranean. Right where the Turkish subs were sent to decapitate the Russian fleet.


This will put French Naval Power right in the fighting, and French Air Power close enough to Latakia and Tartus to make sure the Russian s-300 and s-400 systems are knocked out, allowing the Turks coming from Incirlick air base to get through to Damascus.

THE "CEASE-FIRE" DECEPTION It is now clear that the "cease fire" being negotiated by the US with Russia/Syria, was designed merely to be a delaying tactic, to allow for the re-positioning of SA/UAE and Turk forces! The cease fire has been a ruse, a deception, to allow the aggressors time to reposition and redeploy in a way that prevents Russia from using Tactical nukes AND overwhelms Russian defenses, allowing a swift decapitation strike against Damascus.
Unless the Russians, who have been acting in good faith and ardently seeking solutions to the Syria issue, prepare (and prepare fast) they will be totally overwhelmed in a manner against which they cannot use nukes. Russia will lose Syria and be humiliated on the world stage for all to see.

At that point, Russia will be given a choice:


Take your losses, push back from the table, call it a day and go home, OR;
Engage in massive full-scale war to save a country (Syria) that has already been conquered.


It would be a crushing defeat for the Russians, who did everything according to International Law, but were defeated by the unimaginable treachery of those in the US, UK, France and the "Arab Coalition against Terrorism."
Unless Russia is prepared to react by sinking the Turkish subs at the first torpedo, or makes other arrangements to protect their s-300 or s-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to prevent a gaping hole, or perhaps to cross into Turkey from Georgia and Armenia, so as to derail the Turks, all will be lost.




UPDATE 4:25 PM Eastern US Time -- Bahrain has just announced its citizens should not travel to Lebanon and any who are already there should leave. They now join Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates who issued same warnings earlier today . . . .

Neuro
24th February 2016, 10:20 AM
Hal Turner is an old disinformation artist!

jack1878
24th February 2016, 10:31 AM
I think its going to pop soon too. That scenario is interesting and might be right but I don't think Russia can be disabled so easily. I might be wrong.

I'm surprised Putin got suckered into that cease fire deal while he was clearly winning. There's still a sticking point between Russia and Syria/Iran about the fate of Assad. The cease fire deal calls for him to step aside which Iran and Syria oppose.

Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey hate Assad with a passion but they never say why, or why he has to go, except for the usual slurs like tyrant and dictator. Maybe its because Assad is so pro-Palestinian.

Spectrism
24th February 2016, 10:37 AM
Hal Turner is an old disinformation artist!


I thought his name sounded familiar. Just looking him up-

http://alexansary.tv/hal-turner-exposed-as-fbi-informant/

In 2006, Turner told his audience to “clean your guns, have plenty of ammunition … [and] then do what has to be done” to undocumented workers. Around the same time, he suggested that half the U.S. Congress “may have to be assassinated.
Hal Turner was recently arrested for threatening three federal appeals court judges in Chicago Over a recent decision upholding handgun bans. This revelation comes at a time when the mainstream media is working frantically to demonize 2nd Amendment activists while working to convince the American people that right-wing extremism (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/14/extremism.report/) is growing in the United States.
According to the AP (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A5GCC80&show_article=1), A New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers and judges was trained by the FBI on how to be deliberately provocative, his attorney said Tuesday.
Hal Turner worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an “agent provocateur” and was taught by the agency “what he could say that wouldn’t be crossing the line,” defense attorney Michael Orozco said. He said that Hal’s job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest.

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i noticed on his broadcast that he said he had high level informants.... he claims to have feeds of info. Not sure how much of this middle east topic is correct, but it all seems to match what is happening there.

Spectrism
24th February 2016, 10:41 AM
I think its going to pop soon too. That scenario is interesting and might be right but I don't think Russia can be disabled so easily. I might be wrong.

I'm surprised Putin got suckered into that cease fire deal while he was clearly winning. There's still a sticking point between Russia and Syria/Iran about the fate of Assad. The cease fire deal calls for him to step aside which Iran and Syria oppose.

Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey hate Assad with a passion but they never say why, or why he has to go, except for the usual slurs like tyrant and dictator. Maybe its because Assad is so pro-Palestinian.

According to Turner on the broadcast- he said Israel expects to walk away with Golan Heights- and its enormous oil resources. Also, the new Syrian puppet leader will stop supplying any potential threats to Israel. i am sure they already have someone in mind.

It is a complex chess game. I suspect Russia has wargamed it extensively.

Neuro
24th February 2016, 10:50 AM
I think its going to pop soon too. That scenario is interesting and might be right but I don't think Russia can be disabled so easily. I might be wrong.

I'm surprised Putin got suckered into that cease fire deal while he was clearly winning. There's still a sticking point between Russia and Syria/Iran about the fate of Assad. The cease fire deal calls for him to step aside which Iran and Syria oppose.

Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey hate Assad with a passion but they never say why, or why he has to go, except for the usual slurs like tyrant and dictator. Maybe its because Assad is so pro-Palestinian.
Assad isn't pro-Palestinian. He is pro-Hizbollah. Hizbollah managed against all odds fend back the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 2006, with backing from Syria. After a couple of weeks the Israeli armed forces had to retreat with their tail between their legs. Oy Vey, how can you live with enemies like that a stone throw away. Palestinians is not much of a real issue to Israel, they are contained and neutralized, they can easily control them. Turkey and Saudi Arabia hate Assad because he is not Sunni, and see him as an obstacle in building a Sunni Caliphate, which he is of course. From my experience in the Middle East I would say Shiite Islam is way more moderate than Sunni Islam if you look at a cross-section of the population that is. In general Shiite are less misogynistic and less prone to radicalism. One would think the Western world would have preferred to align itself with such an ally, but no instead they ally themselves with the probably the worst regime on earth, Saudi Arabia...

Neuro
24th February 2016, 11:06 AM
I thought his name sounded familiar. Just looking him up-

http://alexansary.tv/hal-turner-exposed-as-fbi-informant/

In 2006, Turner told his audience to “clean your guns, have plenty of ammunition … [and] then do what has to be done” to undocumented workers. Around the same time, he suggested that half the U.S. Congress “may have to be assassinated.
Hal Turner was recently arrested for threatening three federal appeals court judges in Chicago Over a recent decision upholding handgun bans. This revelation comes at a time when the mainstream media is working frantically to demonize 2nd Amendment activists while working to convince the American people that right-wing extremism (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/14/extremism.report/) is growing in the United States.
According to the AP (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A5GCC80&show_article=1), A New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers and judges was trained by the FBI on how to be deliberately provocative, his attorney said Tuesday.
Hal Turner worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an “agent provocateur” and was taught by the agency “what he could say that wouldn’t be crossing the line,” defense attorney Michael Orozco said. He said that Hal’s job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest.

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i noticed on his broadcast that he said he had high level informants.... he claims to have feeds of info. Not sure how much of this middle east topic is correct, but it all seems to match what is happening there.
He is a skilled disinformation artist, but it is still disinformation. I heard nothing from him for about 7-8 years, now the last month he seems to have made a comeback distorting the reporting from Syria. Notice he told in the above article that Arabs had been warned by their embassies to exit Lebanon immediately. He made the exact same story 2 weeks ago, but instead the scenario was that Russian authorities had warned its citizens to leave Turkey within 24 hours. Surprisingly when I arrived in Turkey a day after this warning, in the que to the passport control at the airport I ended up with a big group of Russians, entering Turkey. Totally made up story. But his stories are not generally unrealistic in terms of scenarios and they are generally built on facts on the ground. So what he describes is plausible, but false!

mick silver
24th February 2016, 11:20 AM
cover the base here and I think old hal in the thread also
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?87890-Russia-May-Use-Nukes-to-Oppose-Saudi-Invasion-of-Syria

mick silver
24th February 2016, 11:21 AM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?87890-Russia-May-Use-Nukes-to-Oppose-Saudi-Invasion-of-Syria Russia still bombing.............
I think its going to pop soon too. That scenario is interesting and might be right but I don't think Russia can be disabled so easily. I might be wrong.

I'm surprised Putin got suckered into that cease fire deal while he was clearly winning. There's still a sticking point between Russia and Syria/Iran about the fate of Assad. The cease fire deal calls for him to step aside which Iran and Syria oppose.

Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey hate Assad with a passion but they never say why, or why he has to go, except for the usual slurs like tyrant and dictator. Maybe its because Assad is so pro-Palestinian.

jack1878
24th February 2016, 07:14 PM
Assad isn't pro-Palestinian. He is pro-Hizbollah.

Being pro-Palestinian and pro-Hizbollah are not mutually exclusive concepts. Quite the opposite really. I've heard Assad speak about the Palestinian issue. He's passionate about it, which burns Israel to the quick of course.

Jewboo
24th February 2016, 07:22 PM
I'm surprised Putin got suckered into that cease fire deal while he was clearly winning.



NATO has already recently told Turkey that they WON'T back them up in a Turkey-Russia war.

Putin is playing this perfectly.

jack1878
24th February 2016, 07:33 PM
Turkey and Saudi Arabia hate Assad because he is not Sunni, and see him as an obstacle in building a Sunni Caliphate, which he is of course.

You're probably right but why aren't Turkey and KSA compelled to spell this out themselves? All we hear from them is their non-negotiable demand that the leader of a foreign country must go. Imagine the outrage from NATO if Syria and Iran demanded the removal of Erdogan for example.

aeondaze
24th February 2016, 07:37 PM
So the Arab coalition of SA, UAE and Turkey have subs but Russia doesn't? I don't think so.

So they plan on disbaling the s-300/400 Rusian capabilities, again this is a long long shot. Then they are going to unlease tens of thousands of soliders from the west in Lebanon and Hezbolah will just sit there quietly twiddling their thumbs? Then there is all that talk of containers of weapons being "warehoused" but nothing of the kind of things that an actual ground invasion would require like armoured troop carriers, tanks, SAE etc. Can't hide those kinds of things. :rolleyes:

No, this is all bullshit. Ain't going to happen. Putin would see this coming a mile away anyhow.

Jewboo
24th February 2016, 07:46 PM
You're probably right but why aren't Turkey and KSA compelled to spell this out themselves? All we hear from them is their non-negotiable demand that the leader of a foreign country must go. Imagine the outrage from NATO if Syria and Iran demanded the removal of Erdogan for example.

USA policy has been Assad must go. Still is. After we already decapitated Iraq and Libya.

At some point the madmen who control our foreign policy will force Putin to use nukes.

:(??

aeondaze
24th February 2016, 07:56 PM
USA policy has been Assad must go. Still is. After we already decapitated Iraq and Libya.

At some point the madmen who control our foreign policy will force Putin to use nukes.

:(??

Yea I don't know, if anyone was going to use nukes it would be the madmen controlling your foreign policy.

There seems to be some history to that...:rolleyes:

https://www.darkmoon.me/uploads/600x411xnagasaki-hiroshima-blasts.jpg.pagespeed.ic.RMrzC96-Z7.jpg

Ponce
24th February 2016, 11:04 PM
Pilots always place a skull on their planes whey knock down an enemy plane......The American flag must have many skulls.

V

Neuro
25th February 2016, 02:12 AM
You're probably right but why aren't Turkey and KSA compelled to spell this out themselves? All we hear from them is their non-negotiable demand that the leader of a foreign country must go. Imagine the outrage from NATO if Syria and Iran demanded the removal of Erdogan for example.

They are pretty much repeating what John McCain is saying. Assad must go because he is responsible for 250 thousand deaths and Millions of refugees. HE IS a BUTCHER!

Funny thing though ultimately they themselves are magnitudes more responsible for the civil war in Syria, as they had underblown the conflict by sending thousands of foreign jihadists into Syria, financed and armed, and fomenting revolts. Saudi, Turkey, Qatary and CIA did this. Probably Soros had a lot to do with the Arab Spring initial uprising...