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Cebu_4_2
9th March 2016, 01:24 PM
Clinton Loses Vote In Michigan, Leaves With More Delegates

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/09/clinton-loses-vote-in-michigan-leaves-with-more-delegates/

It was a stunning loss by a razor-thin margin, but it wasn’t really a loss at all. Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton was expected to win the Michigan primary, but came up 1.5 percent short, losing to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders Tuesday night 49.8 percent to 48.3 percent.

That victory gave Sanders a 65 to 58 advantage in pledged delegates from Election Day. But that’s not the whole story.
The Democratic Party has “superdelegates” in each state, party elites and elected officials whose votes count the same as pledged delegates, but are unbound by primary results. These superdelegates are free to vote for whomever they wish, free to ignore the will of voters in their state.

Michigan has 17 such superdelegates, and of those who have publicly stated their intentions, Hillary Clinton has the support of 10 of them (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016). The remaining 7 have not yet made their decision.

This means that even after losing the popular vote, Clinton currently has 68 delegates from Michigan to 65 for Sanders.
Michigan superdelegates include both of the state’s senators and every Democrat elected to the House of Representatives. The uncommitted superdelegates are members of the Democratic National Committee from Michigan, who generally, but not always, remain neutral before a primary vote.

The current Democratic Party delegate count stands at 1,221 for Clinton and 571 for Sanders. Much of Clinton’s lead, 458 of it (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/6/bernie-sanders-supporters-say-superdelegate-system/), comes from superdelegates.

madfranks
9th March 2016, 01:40 PM
The nuances and details of the rules allows them plenty of wiggle room to get who they want. It's so clear it's mind blowing that more don't catch the ruse for what it is!

Cebu_4_2
9th March 2016, 01:46 PM
I see a lot of people on FB waking up, people that I thought would never know. Years ago no one knew what a caucus or primary was let alone vote in them, only the popular vote. So I think between all that goes on and the Trump thing all over the MSM is a very powerful tool this time around.

Ares
9th March 2016, 04:16 PM
The nuances and details of the rules allows them plenty of wiggle room to get who they want. It's so clear it's mind blowing that more don't catch the ruse for what it is!

Government, ideas so good to protect us and keep people from stealing and killing us... Oh wait.... :rolleyes:

KenJackson
9th March 2016, 04:44 PM
Saddam Hussein must have had all super delegates because he always won his elections by over 99%. I guess the Democrat Party here doesn't want to be that obvious.

cheka.
9th March 2016, 05:04 PM
and the extreme repug voter turnout is indication the extra votes are fraudulent...and all cast for crubio

KenJackson
9th March 2016, 05:09 PM
and the extreme repug voter turnout is indication the extra votes are fraudulent...and all cast for crubio

Or it could be that the general population is just terrified of what either Democrat candidate would do to our remaining freedom and well being.

JohnQPublic
9th March 2016, 05:24 PM
Here is a projection for Trump vs. Cruz. The winner-take-all-states could skew this, but perhaps not as much as you would think.

Per politico ( http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/delegate-count-tracker )

1042 delegates have been awarded; Trump has 458 (44.0%), Cruz 359 (34.5%), 1435 delegates remaining. 2477 total. 1237 NEEDED.

If the votes were to continue on this trajectory (Rubio and Kasich stay in and maintain their trajectory), then:

Trump will have 458+639 = 1097 delegates (NEED 140, or 26.9% of available)
Cruz will have 359 + 501= 860 delegates. (NEED 377, 72.5% of available or )

out of 520 non-Cruz-Trump delegates (available per this projection)

JohnQPublic
29th April 2016, 09:07 AM
Here is a projection for Trump vs. Cruz. The winner-take-all-states could skew this, but perhaps not as much as you would think.

Per politico ( http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/delegate-count-tracker )

1042 delegates have been awarded; Trump has 458 (44.0%), Cruz 359 (34.5%), 1435 delegates remaining. 2477 total. 1237 NEEDED.

If the votes were to continue on this trajectory (Rubio and Kasich stay in and maintain their trajectory), then:

Trump will have 458+639 = 1097 delegates (NEED 140, or 26.9% of available)
Cruz will have 359 + 501= 860 delegates. (NEED 377, 72.5% of available or )

out of 520 non-Cruz-Trump delegates (available per this projection)


Trump Current= 944
Cruz current= 566

Delegates left=588
non-Cruz-Trump (committed) delegates = 304

This projection is still feasible, but I think Trump could take 1237.
If Trump got 50% of the delegates left, he would have 944+588/2=1238

Cebu_4_2
29th April 2016, 11:29 AM
Trump Current= 944
Cruz current= 566

Delegates left=588
non-Cruz-Trump (committed) delegates = 304

This projection is still feasible, but I think Trump could take 1237.
If Trump got 50% of the delegates left, he would have 944+588/2=1238


Trump has 994.