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mick silver
10th March 2016, 05:38 AM
China Meltdown Triggering Worldwide RecessionBy Allen L Roland, PhD (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/roland/) on March 9, 2016
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“China syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_meltdown)” is a fanciful term that describes a fictional worst-case result of a nuclear meltdown, where reactor components melt through their containment structures and into the underlying earth, all the way to China.
In today’s global economic climate it means that China’s over built managed economic boom fueled by margin buying and excessive debt has exposed its global illusion of prosperity, as well as a commodity bubble and the threat of a worldwide economic recession. This looming financial meltdown is potentially more ominous than the 2008 Global Financial Crisis: Allen L Roland (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/roland/), PhD

_____________CHINA is set to plunge the world into an economic crisis sending stock markets crashing by 50 – 75 per cent – with devastating consequences for the US and UK, a leading city expert has warned and its already happening.
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Kedar Grandhi, ICH, reports “Albert Edwards, a strategist at Société Générale bank, has warned of an impending global financial crisis similar to the one that occurred in 2008-09. This time, he said, it could lead to the collapse of the Eurozone.
The warning follows a recent note issued by analysts at Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) to investors to “sell everything” (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rbs-doomsday-prophecy-uk-bank-tells-investors-sell-everything-ahead-cataclysmic-year-1537544) ahead of an imminent stock market crash. It also comes at a time when global markets see a short period of relief from the bearish trend that commenced since the New Year.
At an investment conference in London, Edwards said:
“Developments in the global economy will push the US back into recession. The financial crisis will reawaken. It will be every bit as bad as in 2008-09 and it will turn very ugly indeed. Can it get any worse? Of course it can.” See article (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43955.htm) ~
China’s debt of at least 250 % of GDP is indicative of the growing debt problem but the biggest problem for China is transparency.
Here’s the China syndrome in a nut shell ~ “Now that this debt bubble is unwinding, growth in China is going offline,” Michael Pento, president of Pento Portfolio Strategies, wrote on CNBC.com (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/15/a-recession-worse-than-2008-is-coming-commentary.html) last week.
“The renminbi’s falling value, cascading Shanghai equity prices (down 40 percent since June 2014) and plummeting rail freight volumes (down 10.5 percent year over year) all clearly illustrate that China is not growing at the promulgated 7 percent, but rather isn’t growing at all. The problem is that China accounted for 34 percent of global growth, and the nation’s multiplier effect on emerging markets takes that number to over 50 percent.”
So what if China is not growing at all ~ which is what I strongly suspect and that startling truth is being manipulated by a less that transparent Chinese regime who cannot take the risk of telling the truth ~ much as the United States did in 2008 and is still doing today to a large extent.
Just grasp that for a moment and we can see where the stock market could well be going which would be substantially lower in 2016 ~ particularly when you factor in that it’s an election year.
Beginning last year, Chinese officials also used state-owned media to encourage individual investors (http://www.npr.org/2015/08/27/435113627/china-s-government-encouraged-ordinary-investors-to-make-risky-margin-bets) to pour their savings and borrowed money into the stock market, leading to a massive bubble. When the market started to tumble over the summer, the government blamed rumormongers (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/world/asia/china-punishes-nearly-200-over-rumors-about-stocks-blasts-and-parade.html?ref=business&_r=0) and speculators, and ordered securities firms and state-owned companies to keep buying, which simply disguised the underlying problems.
The lesson here is clear: Instead of trying to micromanage stock prices, Chinese officials ought to be strengthening the economy, foremost by shifting its emphasis from investment to consumer spending and services ~ but that’s not going to happen.
The Financial Times cited figures from the Bank for International Settlements showing that China has the highest private debt levels in the world, and that the cost of servicing this debt has risen from 12 percent of GDP in 2009 to 20 percent today.
“The danger now is that the contraction in industrial profits, the debt service burdens, and a flagging property market could together depress household income growth ~ jeopardizing the consumer spending that forms the most robust stratum in the economy,” the editorial continued.
What is referred to as the “pain of transition” involves the destruction of whole swathes of industry and the loss of millions of jobs, raising before the regime its greatest fear ~ an upsurge in the struggles of the working class. There are already signs of such a movement. See WSWS article (http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/01/20/econ-j20.html) ~
So here’s the bottom line ~ Think of the world’s economy like a giant luxury cruise ship, similar to the Titanic ~ well, it just hit a giant iceberg (named debt) and it’s sinking fast although many of the passengers are still unaware of that reality. A few are re-arranging chairs on the deck oblivious to the fact that the ship is already listing and taking on water ~ the rest is history.
And here’s what it looked like to WSWS a few weeks ago;
” The quantitative easing policies pursued by the Fed and other major central banks, which pumped trillions of dollars into the global financial system, led to an explosion of borrowing by corporations in emerging markets, which more than quadrupled their debt from $4 trillion in 2004 to over $18 trillion by 2014. Now this money is heading for the exits.
According to the Institute for International Finance, emerging markets saw a $735 billion capital outflow last year, most of it coming from China, a shift characterized by the organization’s chief economist as an “unprecedented event.” Other estimates put the outflow even higher, with one economist telling the World Economic Forum recently held in Davos, Switzerland that the capital flight from China had reached $1 trillion since mid-2015.
But the emerging market tailspin is only one of the most prominent symptoms of the deepening crisis of the global financial system. On the eve of the recent Davos meeting, William White, former chief economist of the Bank for International Settlements and now chairman of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s review committee, warned that the global financial system was unstable and faced an avalanche of bankruptcies.
“The situation is worse than it was in 2007,” he said. “Our macroeconomic ammunition to fight downturns is essentially all used up.” Debts had continued to build up over the past eight years and it would become obvious in the next recession that many of them would never be repaid.” See WSWS article (http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/01/21/pers-j21.html) ~
The growing ugly reality that the world must now face is that China is probably not growing at all ~ only a managed economy and a secretive leadership is keeping that from becoming obvious.
Briefly, the Chinese centralized regime pledged that the restoration of capitalism would open the way for the country’s “peaceful rise” and overcome the legacy of decades of economic backwardness ~ and unfortunately that program has turned into a disaster.
In an Op Ed in the New York Times, Thomas Friedman posed the China Syndrome What If question at a recent dinner party.
“Just get me talking about the world today and I can pretty well ruin any dinner party. I don’t mean to, but I find it hard not to look around and wonder whether the recent turmoil in international markets isn’t just the product of tremors but rather of seismic shifts in the foundational pillars of the global system, with highly unpredictable consequences.
What if a bunch of eras are ending all at once?
What if we’re at the end of the 30-plus-year era of high growth in China, and therefore China’s ability to fuel global growth through its imports, exports and purchases of commodities will be much less frothy and reliable in the future?”
“But here’s the worst “what if”: What if we’re having a presidential election but no one is even asking these questions, let alone “what if” all of these tectonic plates move at once? How will we generate growth, jobs, security and resilience?” Thomas Friedman, NYT
In summary, China is rapidly approaching an economic hard landing that imperils the global economy and its failure to face this reality only deepens this impending global threat.

Allen L Roland, PhD (http://allenlrolandsweblog.blogspot.com/2016/03/china-meltdown-triggering-worldwide.html)
Heart centered spiritual consultant and advisor Allen L Roland can be contacted at allen@allenroland.com (allen@allenroland.com) Allen is also a lecturer and writer who shares a weekly political and social commentary on his web log (http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/) and website allenroland.com (http://www.allenroland.com/). He is also featured columnist on Veterans Today and is a featured guest on many radio and Television programs.

mick silver
10th March 2016, 05:39 AM
'China To Spark Global Financial ICE AGE With Depression Sending Markets Crashing By 75%'

CHINA is set to plunge the world into an economic crisis sending stock markets crashing by 75 per cent - with devastating consequences for the US and UK, a leading city expert has warned.

By Lana Clements

January 16, 2016 "Information Clearing House (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/)" - "The Express (http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/634666/China-spark-global-financial-ICE-AGE-depression-sending-markets-crashing-by-75) " - The sinking value of the Chinese currency is already crippling British industry as it can’t compete with China’s cheap exports. Other Western nations are also feeling the strain.
And with even more to come experts have predicted an 'ice age' for the world’s economies – including Britain’s.
Global deflation is going to wipe around 75 per cent in value off the American S&P stock market, as western firms will be unable to compete with cheap Chinese exports, according to analyst Albert Edwards from french bank Societe Generale.
He gave the stark warning in an investment note to clients.
And he blamed the upcoming 'carnage' on American central bank (the Fed) and its British and European counterparts for inflating prices in the first place.
American Quantitative Easing (QE) - injecting extra money into the financial system - has pushed up global asset prices, teeing up a disastrous fall, Mr Edward believes.
He said: "Investors are coming to terms with what a Chinese renminbi devaluation means for Western markets.
"It means global deflation and recession.
"A commodity bubble and the resultant US shale investment boom were all consequences of the Fed’s QE.
"The illusion of prosperity is shattered as boom now turns to bust.
"But I do hope this time around the Queen won’t ask, as she did in November 2008, why nobody saw this coming!"
Pumping extra money into the economy was reaction to the 2008 crisis that was also followed by the Bank of England and European Central Bank - essentially creating millions of pounds of extra money to buy bonds and other financial assets, pushing up prices.

Mr Edwards said: "I believe the Fed and its promiscuous fraternity of central banks have created the conditions for another debacle every bit as large as the 2008 Global Financial Crisis.

"I believe the events we now see unfolding will drive us back into global recession."

In reference to the central banks, he said: "Why can't these incompetents understand that they are, once again, the midwife to yet another global unfolding economic crisis?
"But unlike 2007, this time around the US and Europe sit on the precipice of outright deflation.

"Indeed, it is all around us. But don’t expect the central bankers to comprehend the hole they now find themselves in."

The analyst said the western service sectors won't be able to withstand the pressure from Chinese deflation.

He said: "When an economy is hurtling towards recession it is almost always the manufacturing sector that takes the less volatile services sector by the hand and leads it into a recessionary underworld."

The situation is bound to be a catastrophe for people and the economy, according to Mr Edwards.

The banker is an outspoken pessimist on the global economy, but his fears have been echoed by other leading figures.

Legendary investor George Soros has also said the Chinese crisis is set to plunge the world into another economic depression.

And this week RBS urged clients to 'sell everything' as commodity and share prices are set to plunge.

Societe Generale seconds RBS doomsday prophecy and predicts collapse of the eurozone

By Kedar Grandhi January 16, 2016 "Information Clearing House (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/)" - "IBT (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/societe-generale-seconds-rbs-doomsday-prophecy-predicts-collapse-eurozone-1537621)" - Albert Edwards, a strategist at Société Générale bank, has warned of an impending global financial crisis similar to the one that occurred in 2008-09. This time, he said, it could lead to the collapse of the eurozone.
The warning follows a recent note issued by analysts at Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) to investors to "sell everything" (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rbs-doomsday-prophecy-uk-bank-tells-investors-sell-everything-ahead-cataclysmic-year-1537544) ahead of an imminent stock market crash. It also comes at a time when global markets see a short period of relief from the bearish trend that commenced since the New YEar.
At an investment conference in London, Edwards said: "Developments in the global economy will push the US back into recession. The financial crisis will reawaken. It will be every bit as bad as in 2008-09 and it will turn very ugly indeed. Can it get any worse? Of course it can."
He explained that while value of currencies in emerging markets was on the decline, the appreciation of the US dollar was crushing the corporate sector and that the credit expansion in the country was not for real economic activity, but was borrowings to finance share buybacks.
Edwards stressed that the US economy was in far worse shape than what the US Federal Reserve had realised and that America's central bank had failed to learn the lessons of the housing bubble that led to the financial crisis and slump in 2008-09. "They didn't understand the system then and they don't understand how they are screwing up again. Deflation is upon us and the central banks can't see it," he said.
The Société Générale strategist compared (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/12/beware-great-2016-financial-crisis-warns-city-pessimist) US with Japan and said that the dollar had risen by as much as the Japanese yen in the 1990s – a move which had then put Japan into deflation and caused solvency problems for banks in the Asian country, according to The Guardian.
Regarding the euro, he said that efforts by the European Central Bank to push for growth and lower the euro would not matter in the event of a fresh downturn. "If the global economy goes back into recession, it is curtains for the eurozone," he said.
Rising unemployment that would be associated with another recession would not be accepted by countries such as France, Spain and Italy. "What a disaster the euro has been: it is a doomsday machine in favour of the German economy," Edwards claimed.
He also said that the declining demand for credit in China was another sign of the crisis to come. "That happens when people lose confidence that policymakers know what they are doing. This is what is going to happen in Europe and the US."
See also

China opens AIIB, sends chills to US: (http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/01/16/446019/China-opens-AIIB-sends-chills-to-US--/) China on Saturday officially launched the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) which is seen as an emerging rival to powerful Western-led financial institutions such as the World Bank, the Asian Development Bank and the International Monetary Fund. China’s Capital Flight: (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-14/china-s-capital-flight) Money is pouring out of China as rapidly as it once poured in. That’s a dilemma for Xi Jinping.Oil Bust Could End Dollar Domination: (http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Bust-Could-End-Dollar-Domination.html) The US dollar survived the collapse of Bretton Woods in the ‘70s because its use in crude oil transactions made it the king of reserve currencies, but can it survive a collapse of petro dollars? Can the world survive the catastrophic geopolitical consequences that would follow?



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Glass
14th March 2016, 11:09 AM
from my dead thread.

Reading an article on ZH about chinese layoffs (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-14/thousands-angry-unemployed-chinese-coal-miners-take-streets-police-break-enormous-cr). 1.8 million miners will be laid off from steel and coal. 5-6 million workers adding in other sectors. These are state owned companies.

100,000 from 1 coal mine company. They say this company has 3 times more workers than needed. You could ask if all of those employees exist in real life. They may not. But many of the real ones have not been paid in months.

Thinking about all the empty cities, infrastructure that was built, its obvious they are still doing much make busy work. Work just to keep the masses occupied making sh%t er stuff. This was one of the main elements of the great leap forward, revolution in the 50's.

Now they need some new make busy work. Got me thinking about what the west would do. Clearly we already do. We make bureaucracy and great volumes of it. But what will the chinese do. Miners can't become document filler outers.

What will the chinese do? What is the best kind of make busy work if it is not digging holes and building infrastructure?

Build a wall?

Neuro
15th March 2016, 02:22 PM
War is always a good bet, when everything else fails...

singular_me
15th March 2016, 03:14 PM
maybe being stuck in Peru because airlines are filing for bankruptcy could be a good thing

Shami-Amourae
15th March 2016, 03:23 PM
China is super fucked.

They have a billion rice paddie peasants crammed into cities. That's more people in a small location than of all White countries combined.

The only reason these people were making money is since White corporations outsourced labor to them. As automation kicks into gear more and more China is turning into a huge powder keg of instability and lack of resources.

Neuro
16th March 2016, 10:30 AM
maybe being stuck in Peru because airlines are filing for bankruptcy could be a good thing
For many yes! For Peruvians, NO!

Mazel Tov Goldie!

Neuro
16th March 2016, 10:32 AM
China is super fucked.

They have a billion rice paddie peasants crammed into cities. That's more people in a small location than of all White countries combined.

The only reason these people were making money is since White corporations outsourced labor to them. As automation kicks into gear more and more China is turning into a huge powder keg of instability and lack of resources.
They need a war, a Great War!

singular_me
16th March 2016, 02:36 PM
not where I would spend my vacation, with people into permaculture, and remote enough, trust me



For many yes! For Peruvians, NO!

Mazel Tov Goldie!

monty
16th March 2016, 03:12 PM
not where I would spend my vacation, with people into permaculture, and remote enough, trust me

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