Winston Shrout indicted for Failing to File

[Glass]

Heard of this today, Happened last year in December.

IRS says, he's been selling material and obtaining a pension yet failing to file income tax returns.

Story I heard is that he is on an indian reservation at the moment.


Oregon Man Indicted for Failure to File Tax Returns
A federal grand jury sitting in Portland, Oregon, returned an indictment yesterday charging a Hillsboro, Oregon, resident with six counts of willfully failing to file an income tax return, announced Acting Assistant Attorney General Caroline D. Ciraolo of the Justice Department’s Tax Division.

According to the indictment, Winston Shrout received gross income for the years 2009 through 2014 in amounts that required him to file a federal income tax return. However, for each of those years, Shrout willfully failed to file any income tax returns. Shrout’s income included payments for services as a presenter at seminars; licensing fees associated with the sale of products in his name and the name of his business, Winston Shrout Solutions in Commerce; and annual pension payments.

If convicted, Shrout faces a statutory maximum sentence of six years in prison and a maximum fine of $150,000.

Acting Assistant Attorney General Ciraolo thanked special agents of Internal Revenue Service-Criminal Investigation, who investigated the case and Trial Attorneys Stuart A. Wexler and Ryan R. Raybould of the Tax Division who are prosecuting the case.

An indictment is not a finding of guilt. Individuals charged in indictments are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.


US DOJ (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/oregon-man-indicted-failure-file-tax-returns)

[collector]

6 years in prison for failing to file tax returns ???

[Cebu_4_2]

He obviously went above and beyond stepping on someones toes.

[Glass]

they aren't going after him for the ideas and material which is interesting. Just a technicality.

Chances are he got a letter seeking an answer to why and maybe demanding he file. Who knows.

[woodman]

But filing is voluntary....

[Glass]

But filing is voluntary....

No it isn't. Paying income tax is voluntary. Filing is compulsory. More correctly Compliance.

[boogietillyapuke]

Filing is compulsory.

Only if you owe. If they owe you they'd rather you didn't so they can just keep your excess payments.

[Glass]

Only if you owe. If they owe you they'd rather you didn't so they can just keep your excess payments.

how would they work out they owe you? With out a return.

in Australia they are moving to a new system. The ATO - our IRS is going to link in to every bank account and deduct their tax each week based on historical taxation. This will be subject to their assessment of what tax obligations each profession has been subject to in the past.

So if you are a lawyer and the industry average earnings for a lawyer is say $300,000 then all lawyers will have that level of tax deducted.

In my situation I am told that I earn between 1/3 and 1/2 the industry standard, however my future tax will be based on the ATO's determination. This means I will be paying tax at more than 60 cents in the dollar. This will be an increase of 300% for me.

In addition to this deductions are going to be eliminated and no work related expenses will be deductable in the future.

Companies will be required to deploy new accounting systems which allow the ATO to have real time access to business accounts so that they can monitor the businesses activities in real time.

This system is coming into force next year, at least that is the plan.

I'd be worried what the topic of discussion will be with Obama and the Fed Reserve because AFAIK this is a global program.

[monty]

Guilty on 19 charges


http://youtu.be/3lViT0SB6ZE

https://youtu.be/3lViT0SB6ZE

[Jerrylynnb]

Now i'm going to be a real stick-in-the-mud.

What happened to a man's right to remain silent? I grew up to where I cherished that right - I was willing to fight to the death for that right - it was my rock-bottom fundamental right TO REMAIN SILENT!

There were even movies and radio shows where they trumpeted that we americans, UNIQUE in the world, HAD the right to remain SILENT! They had movies where, in old England, the mean old sheriff would torture someone on the rack to force them TO TALK! CONFESS. Then there were TV shows where they made a lot of hullaballo over how the FBI couldn't MAKE HIM TALK! Well I NEVER wanted to talk (fill out a form, sign it, and slap it in the mail)!

OKAY, so somehow it is supposed to be different, and we really do have the right to remain silent, EXCEPT when it comes to how much money we made last year.

B U L L S H I T!

It is a damn good thing for the IRS that I ain't on the jury - it'd either be NO BILL, INNOCENT, or a HUNG JURY! I'd argue with any other jurors 'till tha roosters crow - I wouldn't give a shit - i know what it means to have the right to remain silent and it ain't filling out some damnable bullshit FORM!

[crimethink]

Guilty on 19 charges


http://youtu.be/3lViT0SB6ZE

https://youtu.be/3lViT0SB6ZE

No sympathy from me. I have no problem if someone successfully evades paying taxes (especially on moral grounds), but making up one's own fake "money" is an entirely different issue. He even targeted a small bank (I'd feel a bit different if it was JPMC or Wells Fag-o). His actions are worse than Bernie von Nuthaus' - who at least passed off real silver as inflated-value "dollars." The failure to file is only a misdemeanor (for each count), but the "Federal" Reserve LARPing is what is putting him in a cage for the rest of his life. The IRS would likely have not caught him before he croaked, save the funny money scheme.

I do find it "interesting" that a juror "teared up" during verdict announcement. Lack of confidence in her verdict? Was she forced to declare "guilty"?

[Glass]

I watched all of Winstons seminars and made copious notes on each of them.

He didn't seem to be doing many seminars any more but he was doing some fireside chats. I watched one which was basically a Q & A. People emailed questions. One question was regarding the use of promissory notes. Winston stated that he had never practiced that part of what he taught. He had no credit obligations in his own name and everything was in his wifes name and he had never tendered one of the promissory notes he talked about in his seminars.

That was the last presentation of his I watched. If you don't practice what you preach I'm not interested. I haven't seen any evidence that promissory notes other than those attached to mortgages work in public commerce. They most definitely work in private business arrangements but that is another ball game. I should point out that the premise of most of his material was private agreement with public officers. There's value in that aspect but I don't think tying in PN's is useful on a default process. I think it comes down to blending two things that should not be,

[singular_me]

my partner has listened a lot to him and thinks he is a genius. I dont know, I am a money-free advocate.

In fact there is no legal way to prevent people from doing their own promissory notes because every time a lie is "created" the latter also "creates" a loophole. This because truth stands by itself and protects itself so to speak by allowing the possibility to return to balance, Shrout often speaks of natural laws. And that is why they left him alone for so long but my guess is that more and more people were trying this. Small bank or not it doesnt matter, all the same counterfeit. I would take any mainstream outlet conclusions with a grain of salt, they may be spreading fake news - or the court - as a deterrent.

Actually and I saw this on the Michael Tellinger website last week and I meant to post it but forgot. Tellinger has exposed the SA/world central banks many times and may be running for president during the next elections
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Friday, 2 January 2015
HOW TO PAY THE BANK WITH YOUR OWN PROMISSORY NOTE
I have had hundreds of emails from people wanting more details about the promissory note payments. So here it is. Adapt it to your needs and create your own NOTE on fancy paper with fancy borders and artwork to make it appear as legal as possible. It is all just baffling them with the same BS that they use to baffle us with.
MORE
http://www.ubuntuparty.org.za/2015/01/how-to-pay-bank-with-your-own.html

[slvrbugjim]

does not matter you are in jail if you do not in most cases. That is not voluntary in any way

[singular_me]

Tex Mason, a extremely smart black guy, with a well educated accent, and has many videos on the same subject, his YT channel has more than 500k views so far. That you use the data or not isnt the bottom line but educate yourself as how this sick system operates. A lone wolf cannot change a thing but a critical mass that cannot be stopped. This is quite complex stuff though.

Tex Mason is a top notch in the field, says my partner who has investigated the topic for months already. Yes, and a very black guy, LOL. I dont like the fact one is charged to access all the files but, like winston, he spent years on it to sort it all out.

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1. Record Affidavit of Title/Ownership/ TEX MASON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEogHgGgvJw


seems like the truth is spreading, ((they)) can make multi-million dollars worth of promissory notes from birth certificates... and it is redeemable if one knows how to do it LEGALLY.

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PS: anybody who thinks money is necessary should first think of FIXING this because as long as it is not done, money will continue to enslave, BITCOIN included. We ought to look and address the deep layers of the deception to have long lasting positive effects. If this could be done, zero-sum game economics would validate my stance. Competition and coercion would void themselves and voluntaryism take over.