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mick silver
14th April 2016, 03:31 PM
U.S. Citizens May Be Banned from Buying Body ArmorSource: Anon HQ (http://anonhq.com/u-s-citizens-may-banned-buying-body-armor/)

It’s time to remind US citizens again of HR 378 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/378/text), the Act that would “prohibit the purchase, ownership, or possession of enhanced body armor by civilians, with exceptions,” (source (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr378)). The Act caused a stir (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/federal-ban-body-armor-proposed-congress/) when it was first reported on in early 2015, but has since dwindled in the media, and slipped through the cracks of the public’s attention. The proposal is still open, however, and those who are interested can track its progress through the (source) link above.
The Act was proposed on January 14, 2015 by Representatives Michael Honda (https://honda.house.gov/) (D-CA), Alcee Hastings (http://alceehastings.house.gov/) (D-FL), Robin Kelly (http://robinkelly.house.gov/) (D-IL), and Danny Davis (https://davis.house.gov/) (D-IL). According to washingtonwatch.com (https://washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/114_HR_378.html), other sponsors or cosponsors include Representatives Barbara Lee (D-CA), Eric Swalwell (D-CA), and Julia Brownley (D-CA).
The controversy surrounding the topic spills over into the gun-rights issue, but regardless of your opinion on guns, whether or not we have the right to protect ourselves from them should not be an issue. The fact is, armor itself doesn’t hurt anyone (it’s designed to do the opposite), so why is an Act being proposed to take a form of safety away?
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The Act specifically focuses on level III armor and higher, which is mainly designed to withstand rifle ammunition. Unless you’re an avid big-game hunter, the average citizen may not find level III armor useful, and in fact some might consider it excessive, but that isn’t the point; there are some law-abiding citizens who find it useful, we’re supposed to be living in the “land of the free,” and the real question is, why are players in the government trying to prevent citizens from protecting themselves from rifle shots, which are intended to result in serious injury or death?
In a press release (https://honda.house.gov/news/press-releases/rep-honda-introduces-legislative-package-to-promote-public-safety-in-week-two-of) from Representative Michael Honda:
“This bill allows law enforcement to respond to active shooting situations more effectively. The bill prohibits the purchase, sale, or possession of military-grade body armor by anyone except certain authorized users, such as first-responders and law enforcement.”As mentioned in the Free Thought Project’s report (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/federal-ban-body-armor-proposed-congress/), “this speaks to the heart of the law enforcement problem in America.” One of the lessons learned (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-unrest-senate-police-weapons-hearing.html?_r=0) from Ferguson is that law enforcement themselves should not have access to military-grade equipment, as they are not trained to use it properly, and they act like a bunch of pubescent teenage boys who just got a fully loaded, semi-automatic penis for Christmas, waving it around at anyone who pays them the slightest bit of attention.
The argument for the use of this equipment by law enforcement is that it’s intended to protect US citizens from “terrorism.” And yet, US citizens are not killed on a daily basis by terrorists (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/americans-are-as-likely-to-be-killed-by-their-own-furniture-as-by-terrorism/258156/), but they are killed on a daily basis by U.S. police (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/americans-killed-cops-outnumber-americans-killed-iraq-war/), leaving many to beg the question, who are the real terrorists here?
If the intended use of military equipment by law enforcement is to protect US citizens from terrorism, why is it being used when dealing with Americans themselves, such as we saw in Ferguson? Is the implication that the majority of US citizens are terrorists? And now there are State Representatives who aim to prevent citizens from potentially protecting themselves from this excessive force.


The next question we need to ask is, exactly how many “active shooting situations” are police dealing with to merit an Act that will prevent all Americans from theoretically protecting themselves? According to reports (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/24/active-shooter-incidents-rising-fbi-finds/16158921/), an FBI study in 2014 showed that active shooter incidents (not to be confused with mass shooting incidents, of which there are much less) are on the rise, with an average of 16 incidents a year.
Of course, that’s 16 too many, but it puts things into perspective; police across the nation have been geared for war to supposedly protect US citizens from terrorists when they themselves kill thousands more Americans than terrorists do, and according to Representative Michael Honda, citizens should not be able to protect themselves from this level of law enforcement because there can potentially be around 16 active shooter incidents across the nation this year.
Either these politicians are complete idiots, or they think we are. If it’s to be insisted that military equipment should be used to handle the possible 16 active shooter incidents that may happen this year, why not have the men who were trained to use that equipment deal with the incident? One would think the National Guard, at the very least, could handle such situations. But there are many benefits this Act could bring to the government, all of which are accomplished by tightening its grip on the American people, and that’s precisely what is intended.
There is a bit of light at the end of the tunnel though; should this law pass, reports (http://www.truthandaction.org/h-r-5344-responsible-body-armor-possession-act-violation-gets-10-years-prison/2/) indicate there is a grandfather clause allowing you to keep armor you purchase beforehand. So for the military-survival Anons out there, group hunters, Ted Nugent, and anyone else willing to spend a couple hundred dollars on a vest: We suggest you track this proposal, and in the meantime, gear up.


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Ponce
14th April 2016, 04:31 PM
Now you can buy it but....not wear it in public.......

V

Shami-Amourae
14th April 2016, 04:52 PM
I've considered buying it for a long time but never got around to it. The more they talk like this, the more people will want to buy it, including me.

midnight rambler
14th April 2016, 05:28 PM
I guess it's time to pull the trigger on another purchase.

Norweger
14th April 2016, 06:02 PM
They are tighetning the rope over here in Europe as well. EU Wants to ban all semi-automatic firearms, ban handloading (having to deal with the same regulations as businesses that are licensed to sell ammo) and from my understanding all US firearms sellers have to ship antiques through an exporter out of the US. Going towards a total ban fast. Protocols of zion coming to fruition.

cheka.
14th April 2016, 07:54 PM
talk about an investment opportunity....buy a closet full and make a fortune

they don't want anything in the way when they decide to kill you

Twisted Titan
15th April 2016, 05:07 AM
It will work as well as banning guns

Shami-Amourae
15th April 2016, 06:12 AM
talk about an investment opportunity....buy a closet full and make a fortune

they don't want anything in the way when they decide to kill you

Don't the soft plates deteriorate after time though?

midnight rambler
15th April 2016, 06:20 AM
Don't the soft plates deteriorate after time though?

Kevlar does have a stated life of five years although any degradation has to do with being exposed to temps higher than room temp and perspiration, i.e. normal wear and tear.

The body armor used in this video was over five years old (I actually met the knucklehead who pulled the trigger on his drinking buddy...yeah, they were both drunk and the moron wearing the vest was in the PD academy at the time, after this incident he went to his kid's softball game only stopping off at the C-store on the way to buy some maxi-pads for his wounds...and oh yeah, the PD kicked him out of the academy afterwards).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZV8yT8nBQ

EE_
15th April 2016, 06:29 AM
It's always nice to see idiots get rid of idiots. No shortage of idiots in this world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjnU3L3iON4

7th trump
15th April 2016, 07:44 AM
Kevlar does have a stated life of five years although any degradation has to do with being exposed to temps higher than room temp and perspiration, i.e. normal wear and tear.

The body armor used in this video was over five years old (I actually met the knucklehead who pulled the trigger on his drinking buddy...yeah, they were both drunk and the moron wearing the vest was in the PD academy at the time, after this incident he went to his kid's softball game only stopping off at the C-store on the way to buy some maxi-pads for his wounds...and oh yeah, the PD kicked him out of the academy afterwards).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZV8yT8nBQ

Yeah I can see you knowing the tattoo wearing douche bag.
Didn't think you were that old........just a loud mouth punk

osoab
15th April 2016, 10:20 AM
Yeah I can see you knowing the tattoo wearing douche bag.
Didn't think you were that old........just a loud mouth punk

Did they let you out of the institution early today?

7th trump
15th April 2016, 01:35 PM
Did they let you out of the institution early today?

Apparently they allowed you out to get online.

Do yourself a favor and stay out of this....ok douche bag!

ximmy
15th April 2016, 02:01 PM
Apparently they allowed you out to get online.

Do yourself a favor and stay out of this....ok douche bag!

where there is peaceful dialogue, 7th trump will bring discord
where there is friendship, 7th will create enemies
where there is agreement, 7th will berate
where there is love, 7th will hate

midnight rambler
15th April 2016, 03:06 PM
Someone is OBSESSED with the midnight rambler. lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRot9IjNSso

7th trump
15th April 2016, 03:21 PM
where there is peaceful dialogue, 7th trump will bring discord
where there is friendship, 7th will create enemies
where there is agreement, 7th will berate
where there is love, 7th will hate

Really ...so your stupid ass chimes in where your stupid ass doesnt belong.
You said more hateful things than I ever have.
You may not like what I say or how I say it Ximmy, but what I say isnt necessarily hateful.
Dumb ass stepped in and I stepped on his dick for being a dick where his dick shouldnt have been in the first place.
So tell me where did I say anything hateful?
Where did I say anything discord?
I wasnt the one who initially stepped in and made a really stupid comment to make enemies.
Where is the berate if an asshole steps in and starts the bullshit and I call him out for it?

So try being honest Ximmy and honestly answer my questions.
Ohhh.....forget it Ximmy...we all know you wont answer because you cant prove I did any such thing you accuse me of when you really get right down to it.

What I mean here is...because you cant comprehend jack shit...I didnt just step in on douche bags parade and start calling him names out of the blue (like you just did)...I'd accept what you accuse me of if I did.
Your problem Ximmy is you cant keep your nose out of others business.
One day Ximmy your going to do this to the wrong guy and hes gonna jack you good and hard.....you have it coming to you.

Joshua01
15th April 2016, 03:23 PM
Someone is OBSESSED with the midnight rambler. lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRot9IjNSso

I remember this show...that was before electric lights, wasn't it? :)

7th trump
15th April 2016, 03:26 PM
Someone is OBSESSED with the midnight rambler. lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRot9IjNSso

Finally gonna come out and play after I called you out and someone backed me.
Your butt was hurt for two days.

midnight rambler
15th April 2016, 03:29 PM
Yeah I can see you knowing the tattoo wearing douche bag.
Didn't think you were that old........just a loud mouth punk

7th Trumpstein FAILS at reading comprehension -

Me: "I actually met the knucklehead who pulled the trigger on his drinking buddy..."

NOWHERE did I mention nor even imply that I 'knew' the moron wearing the body armor in the video. I *met* the knucklehead who pulled the trigger ONE TIME at a neighbor's shop. This neighbor grew up here locally and EVERYONE who's established around here and knows all the old timers around these parts knows my neighbor 'Stan'. Naturally anyone and everyone (including local SO deputies and cops) drops by Stan's shop to shoot the bull. This knucklehead I'm referring to dropped in talking even MORE crazy shit than is in that video. He was really fascinating to listen to but I ONLY MET HIM ONCE. Stan regarded him as one of his buddies so I accepted him as such. Big fucking deal.

ximmy
15th April 2016, 05:52 PM
One day Ximmy your going to do this to the wrong guy and hes gonna jack you good and hard.....you have it coming to you.

Oh yeah... Take that!
http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/78/16/0364258c54fba1c5a247fdd5d83b39f2.gif

osoab
15th April 2016, 06:29 PM
Apparently they allowed you out to get online.

Do yourself a favor and stay out of this....ok douche bag!

That's all you got? Weak.

ximmy
15th April 2016, 07:57 PM
midnight rambler, i listened to the RS viddy while sipping a drink... Good song.. great stage presence.

not quite my style, but very good.

Here is more my style...

enjoy!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dff2XCh3Ass&nohtml5=False