About the Saudi 9/11 lawsuit...

[EE_]

I hear this conversation in the media possibly implicating the Saudi's, but no one is asking why the government hid this from the American people?
What else has the government been hiding from us? Building 7? Missile hitting the Pentagon? Israel?

Saudis Warn US: Pass 9/11 Lawsuit Bill and We'll Sell American Assets
By J. Wheaton | Monday, 18 Apr 2016 10:26 AM

Saudi Arabia warned the U.S. that it will sell American assets worth hundreds of billions of dollars if Congress passes a bill allowing the kingdom to be held accountable for any role in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Saudi foreign minister Adel al-Jubeir said last month that the kingdom would sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets before they could be frozen by the courts if the bill is passed, The New York Times reported.

The Senate bill establishes that a 1976 law giving foreign nations immunity from U.S. lawsuits should not apply in cases where nations have a role in terrorist attacks that kill Americans on U.S. soil.

The Obama administration has been lobbying against the bipartisan bill, saying it could put Americans at legal risk overseas. Democratic presidential candidates Bernie Sander and Hillary Clinton have publicly voiced support for the bill ahead of Tuesday's primary election.

Obama is set to visit Saudi Arabia on Wednesday.

Efforts by families of 9/11 victims to hold members of the Saudi royal family, Saudi banks, and charities liable for charges of financial support for terrorism have largely failed because of the 1976 law.

An unnamed source close to the government said al-Jubeir warned against the bill but didn’t specify what action would be taken, The Financial Times reported.

“The mood is bad,” a source said. “There is a sense that after all the co-operation on counter-terrorism, America just wants to get their hands on the money.”
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Secretary of State John Kerry said earlier this year that the legislation could "expose the United States of America to lawsuits and take away our sovereign immunity and create a terrible precedent," CNN reported.

The Saudi Arabia government hasn’t been formally implicated in the 9/11 attacks, though suspicions persist.

Some, including Saudi officials, have called for 28 redacted pages of the 9/11 Commission Report to be released, CNN reported. The pages have so far been kept confidential to protect the government’s ability to gather intelligence on terrorist suspects.

Edwin M. Truman, a fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, told The New York Times that al-Jubeir’s warning is likely an empty threat.

“The only way they could punish us is by punishing themselves,” he said, noting that selling off the assets would be difficult and could cause global economic turmoil.

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/saudis-warn-us/2016/04/18/id/724468/#ixzz46ETfmCfs

[midnight rambler]

Why 14 1/2 years after the incident? (rhetorical question)

[Cebu_4_2]

Why 14 1/2 years after the incident? (rhetorical question)

To deflect from the fraudulent presidential elections in the USi.

[EE_]

To deflect from the fraudulent presidential elections in the USi.

That's a good answer!

[Cebu_4_2]

That's a good answer!


Thank you and for the second question I will take "why is the current president of the USi an Oragatang? for 20 points...

[Neuro]

:o
Thank you and for the second question I will take "why is the current president of the USi an Oragatang? for 20 points...

Shimon Perez is an ORAGATANG? :o

[cheka.]

sauds spit in nigs face....even w/his veto

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/20/politics/obama-saudi-arabia-tensions/index.html?eref=edition

Saudis snub Obama on Riyadh arrival amid growing tensions

(CNN)President Barack Obama received a chilly reception from Saudi Arabia's leaders as he landed in Riyadh Wednesday, a clear sign of the cooling relations between once-close allies amid regional upheaval and dropping oil prices.

When Obama touched down in Riyadh shortly after 1 p.m. local time, there were no kisses with the kingdom's ruler as President George W. Bush once exchanged. The Saudi government dispatched the governor of Riyadh rather than a senior-level royal to shake Obama's hand, a departure from the scene at the airport earlier in the day when King Salman was shown on state television greeting the leaders of other Gulf nations on the tarmac.

[mick silver]

there will be no lawsuit an they will not open the 28 pages ......http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?89102-Saudi-Arabia-Threatens-To-Liquidate-Its-Treasury-Holdings-If-Congress-Probes-Its-Role

[mick silver]

Lindsey Graham blocks Saudi 9/11 billSource: The Hill (http://thehill.com/policy/international/276836-graham-blocking-saudi-9-11-bill-over-fears-of-blowback)

Sen. Lindsey Graham has placed a hold on legislation that would open the door for victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks to sue Saudi Arabia.
Graham (R-S.C.), who is a co-sponsor of the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, put the hold on his own bill over concerns that new changes could expose the U.S. to legal attacks.
Edits made last week by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) might expand the scope, Graham told reporters on Tuesday, potentially putting the U.S. at risk of legal retaliation because of actions by individuals or unsavory allies.
“I want to make sure that anything we do doesn’t come to bite us,” Graham told reporters in the basement of the Senate.
“Anything we do in this bill can be used against us later. So let's say there’s a situation where you’ve got an American in a consulate or an embassy that’s got their own grudge against a government,” he said. “We want to make sure that we’re not liable for that.”
Sessions, for his part, suggested that he shared Graham’s underlying concerns about the potential for the bill to expose the U.S. to legal attacks. Ultimate responsibility for settling the issue, he said, ought to belong with the Obama administration.
“Generally you get leadership from the State Department,” Sessions said on Tuesday. “But when the chips were down, they never produced any real assistance.”
“Somewhere along the line the president is going to need to review it, get his best team on it and if it’s not good for America, he should veto it or try to provide leadership.”
The lingering unease about the bill’s ramifications hints at the legal minefield that lawmakers need to navigate; the measure has gained new prominence amid President Obama’s travel to Saudi Arabia this week.
Saudi officials have strongly opposed the bill and threatened to sell off $750 billion of U.S. assets should it be enacted.
The White House has come out against the legislation, because of what it claims would be dangerous precedent that could erode the legal system of sovereign immunity.
Read More... (http://thehill.com/policy/international/276836-graham-blocking-saudi-9-11-bill-over-fears-of-blowback)
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[mick silver]

Israeli, Saudi role in 9/11 covered up by USBy Kevin Barrett (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/barrett/) on April 20, 2016
But now the cover-up may be unraveling
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/911israeli-saudi-640x356.jpg (http://217.218.67.231/Detail/2016/04/19/461509/911-Barrett-Saudi-Israel-Obama-Bush)Watch the interview at Press TV (http://217.218.67.231/Detail/2016/04/19/461509/911-Barrett-Saudi-Israel-Obama-Bush)

Will the push to declassify the secret 28 pages, and the JASTA bill allowing 9/11 family members to sue foreign governments, lead to re-opening 9/11? Will the 9/11 perps rat each other out? Will truth and justice finally prevail?
Such are the questions raised by this week’s amazing developments; for more information about how you can help see HR14.org (http://hr14.org/) and 28pages.org (https://28pages.org/) Meanwhile, here are my two latest Press TV interviews.
-KB
Israeli, Saudi role in 9/11 covered up by US: Analyst
Press TV has interviewed Kevin Barrett, a political analyst and a founding member of the Scientific Panel for the Investigation of 9/11, in Wisconsin, to discuss recent developments regarding Saudi Arabia’s role in the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York that killed about 3,000 people.
The following is a rough transcription of the interview.
Press TV: You yourself have been part of the movement to get the truth about 9/11 out and those responsible held accountable. What do you make of these current events?
Barrett: Well, this is a very exciting moment because many of us in the 9/11 truth movement have been pushing to try to get mainstream media attention to get the politicians interested in this issue for more than a decade. And now suddenly we have a media feeding frenzy, since the premier mainstream TV investigative journalism show 60 Minutes covered the 28 pages scandal last week.
There is mainstream media feeding frenzy and there is a huge push to declassify these 28 pages and what is really important about this is that not only it is going to reveal that Saudi Arabia had a role in the 9/11 attacks, but perhaps more importantly that the Saudis who had [did have] the role were close friends of the Bush administration working with American agencies and that the Saudis were not the only foreign government involved and the Israelis played a much bigger role than the Saudis did.
I certainly hope that all of that will come out once we use the 28 pages issue to pry open the larger 9/11 can of worms.
Press TV: Well, I would like to pick on that point a bit further as far as the Saudi role when it comes to the 9/11 attacks; how imperative is it that that gets disclosed and discussed?
Barrett: Well, it is critically important because the thing is many of these other issues lack documentary proof in the form of official US government documents.

We know that they blew up the World Trade Center and it was a controlled demolition. It was certainly not a collapse based on fire but we do not have a US government document that says that. We do, however, have these 28 pages that detail the fact that there was a very close Saudi relationship to these alleged 9/11 hijackers and that that was then classified and covered up by the Bush administration and by the 9/11 commission which of course was a cover-up commission.
So we have documentary proof of a cover-up and that is critically important in getting legal action, getting laws passed, getting investigations and getting action in court. And once serious investigations of 9/11 begin and there are courtroom proceedings with discovery, witnesses who can be brought in and grilled under oath the whole thing could very well just explode and it would be the biggest scandal ever to hit the United States.
Press TV: Why do you think President Barack Obama is so insistent upon not letting this through?
Barrett: Well, I think when he came into office he kind of had a deal with the elements of the previous administration which was that he was not going to hang them for their war crimes. You know, that has been essentially the understanding I think and so he is still covering up for the crimes of the Bush administration and I’m sure he knows and everybody else who is paying attention knows that if this 28 pages issue really is picked up and is declassified and the public sees that in fact these alleged 19 hijackers were backed not only by foreign governments but by parts of the US government.

This is going to lead to questions about why President Bush was smoking cigars with Bandar Bush in the White House right after 9/11 celebrating.
So it is just a gigantic powder keg of political dynamite waiting to explode and I can’t wait till it explodes because the United States is in terrible shape right now and we need the kind of shock treatment that the 9/11 truth would bring us.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/1-obama-coverup-640x493.jpg (http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/04/19/461606/us-911-obama-saudi-arabia-israel/)Watch the interview at Press TV (http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/04/19/461606/us-911-obama-saudi-arabia-israel/)

US President Barack Obama must be in a “backroom deal” with the Bush administration officials to cover up the truth through opposition to declassification of 28 pages of a 2002 congressional report, which could implicate not only Saudi Arabia but “perhaps” the US government and the Israeli regime, says Kevin Barrett, an author and political commentator.
The US president has chosen to “cut that backroom deal and say we are not going to prosecute the crimes of the Bush administration in the post-9/11 era,” Barrett said in an interview with Press TV Tuesday, as congressional efforts were still underway for a bill that could allow US citizens to sue the Saudi government for its involvement in the September 11, 2001 attacks.
However, Barrett noted that the redacted pages of Joint Inquiry would “completely overturn” the official narrative about the terrorist attacks as it could also show “US support” for the hijackers and “if more truth comes out” it could even implicate Israel.
US government ‘terrified’
Obama, who has voiced opposition to the declassification and the bill, is “afraid of the repercussions,” Barrett said, calling his position “outrageous,” particularly given he emphasized on it Tuesday before leaving for Saudi Arabia without any knowledge of what the pages have to offer.
“He hasn’t even bothered to read those top secret 28 pages,” said Dr. Barrett, who has a Ph.D in Arab and Islamic studies and is one of America’s best-known critics of the so-called war on terror, adding that Obama “has so little interest in the actual facts of 9/11.”

See “Obama hasn’t even READ the 28 pages – Jersey Girls horrified” (http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2016/04/obama-hasnt-even-read-28-pages-jersey.html)
Riyadh has also taken the upper hand by threatening to sell up to $750 billion in US assets if the truth emerges.
“Obama is part of the cover-up team. He probably doesn’t really want that to happen and indeed many people of the United States in positions of power and authority are terrified of the possibilities for destabilizing the American system if the truth of 9/11 comes out.”

[mick silver]

Zionist media finally and reluctantly admits that Saudi Arabia is an accomplice in 9/11By Jonas E. Alexis (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/alexis/) on April 19, 2016
Back in 2003, the media was basically reporting to the entire nation that “Saddam is omnipotent and omnipresent: he is under your bed; he’s in the bathroom; he’s by your window setting up explosives; he’s taking your kids captive; he’s observing every step you take.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/netany.jpg…by Jonas E. Alexis (http://www.veteranstoday.com/contact/staff-writers/)
You really can’t make this stuff up. If you did observe some of the events leading up to 9/11 and how the media beat the war drum to drag America and much of the West into a bloody conflict with Iraq, then you have to shake your head and ask a deeper question: what would people like Plato or Aristotle or Kant say about our modern age, which is littered with what Kevin Barrett (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/21/reptilian/) would have called reptilians and “psychopathic space lizards”—people who refuse to submit their ideological appetite to logic and reason?
The Neoconservatives and their favorite marionette George W. Bush repeated ad nauseam that Saddam Hussein did have some connections to 9/11. Back in 2003, the Zionist media was basically reporting to the entire nation that
“Saddam is omnipotent and omnipresent: he is under your bed; he’s in the bathroom; he’s by your window setting up explosives; he’s taking your kids captive; he’s observing every step you take.”
Blah, blah, blah.
But by 2006, the real marionette Bush came out and basically said, “Oops. We lied. Sorry.” But to save his sinking ship, Bush had to formulate new and improved lies:
“I am often asked why we are in Iraq when Saddam Hussein was not responsible for the 9/11 attacks. The answer is that the regime of Saddam Hussein was a clear threat. My administration, the Congress, and the United Nations saw the threat – and after 9/11, Saddam’s regime posed a risk that the world could not afford to take. The world is safer because Saddam Hussein is no longer in power.”[1] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftn1)
We all know that this man was not and is still not living in the real world. Is the world really “safer because Saddam Hussein is no longer in power”? Can anyone with even an ounce of common sense look at Iraq now and say that it is a safe zone?
Last January, CNN itself reported that in less than two years, 19,000 civilians already lost their previous lives in the region![2] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftn2) Has the West been mourning for those people? And aren’t we honestly saying that some lives are better than others?
You see, the Neoconservative/Zionist/Neo-Bolshevik narrative simply does not make sense. Bush had to deliberately lie to the American people in order to send thousands upon thousands of Americans to Iraq and to die for the Neoconservatives, who took their orders from Israel[3] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftn3) and who always look for fresh blood in the Middle East.

Nearly all the Zionist media is now implicitly and explicitly saying that Saudi Arabia played a crucial role in 9/11, and Saudi Arabia has implicitly and perhaps unintentionally admitted its guilt:
“Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.”[4] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftn4)
Think about this for a moment. The real terrorist state is Saudi Arabia, and America has been defending that country’s terrorist crimes from time immemorial. More recently,
“the State Department ignored thousands of civilian casualties from the Saudi-led bombing campaign in Yemen and overlooked the widespread use of illegal cluster munitions by the bombing coalition.
“Saudi Arabia launched an air campaign in Yemen last March after Houthi rebels in Yemen threatened the rule of the Saudi-backed president. The Saudi military has been widely criticized for targeting civilians, destroying homes, schools, and hospitals, and using internationally banned cluster munitions.
“The Obama administration has supported the Saudi-led campaign throughout, providing the coalition with intelligence and selling them at least $20 billion in weapons since the campaign began in March.”[5] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftn5)
Not a single Neoconservative or flaming Zionist has come out and said that we need to bomb Saudi Arabia. But we are being told ad nauseam that Assad is the man who ought to be removed from power, despite the fact that he won the 2014 election by a landslide.[6] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftn6)
Once again, perhaps these people need to call philosopher Harry G. Frankfurt and ask him about his 2005 book.[7] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftn7)
[1] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftnref1) Suzanne Goldenberg, “Bush: Saddam was not responsible for 9/11,” Guardian, September 12, 2006.
[2] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftnref2) Khushbu Shah and Tim Hume, “Nearly 19,000 civilians killed in Iraq in 21-month period, report says,” CNN, January 19, 2016.
[3] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftnref3) For scholarly studies on this, see for example John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2007); Paul R. Pillar, Intelligence and U.S. Foreign Policy: Iraq, 9/11, and Misguided Reform (New York: Columbia University Press, 2011); John J. Mearsheimer, Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying in International Politics (New York: Oxford University Press, 2011); John M. Schuessler, Deceit on the Road to War: Presidents, Politics, and American Democracy (New York: Cornell University Press, 2015).
[4] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftnref4) Mark Mazzetti, “Saudi Arabia Warns of Economic Fallout if Congress Passes 9/11 Bill,” NY Times, April 15, 2016; see also “Saudi Arabia wants US to kill 9/11 bill, threatens to dump US assets worth $750 bn – report,” Russia Today, April 16, 2016.
[5] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftnref5) Alex Emmons, “U.S. Report on Saudi Arabia Downplays Civilian Casualties in Yemen,” The Intercept, April 16, 2016.
[6] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftnref6) “Bashar al-Assad wins re-election in Syria as uprising against him rages on,” Guardian, June 14, 2014.
[7] (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/19/zionist-media-finally-and-reluctantly-admits-that-saudi-arabia-is-an-accomplice-in-911/#_ftnref7) Harry G. Frankfurt, On Bullshit (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2005).

[cheka.]

as the net is on fire with israel did 9/11 messages..

lendsee gram's ziocons controllers hatched this scheme to frame saudi without giving up the pages for scrutiny

mission accomplished