Beepocolypse

[singular_me]

At this pace, human pollination by hand will be a job that could be paid big bucks, get ready for a new career. A vision I had a few months ago :(

(or time to work out of passion in a money free society)
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Bee genocide: Nearly half of US honey hives collapsed in past 12 months
13 May 2016



‘The shocking, and seemingly irreversible, destruction of the US honeybee population took a huge hit in the past year, with 44 percent of all hives collapsing between April 2015 and April 2016.

This was the second worst year for colony losses since the “Beepocolypse” started a decade ago, according to The Bee Informed Partnership, the collaboration between the US Department of Agriculture, research labs, and universities that is tracking the alarming numbers.’

READ MORE: Major pesticide brand dropping bee-killing chemical

The varroa mite, first introduced to the US via Florida in 1995, and pesticides are thought to be the main causes of the collapse, although shipping them in trucks across the country to pollinate monocropped farms is also thought to stress them out.

While the crisis is largely caused by humans, they also suffer since honeybees pollinate US$15 billion worth of food crops in the US, one third of the supply.

The little yellow and black insects are also vulnerable to lobbying from the pesticide industry, led by the controversial American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), which downplayed the bee genocide last year, saying "the issue has been way overblown" anddescribing it as "hype."

VIDEO/MORE
https://www.rt.com/viral/342809-bees-massive-colony-collapse/

[woodman]

My hives are all dead now. I will not put in more unless at another location, far away from crops.

[aeondaze]

The varroa mite, first introduced to the US via Florida in 1995, and pesticides are thought to be the main causes of the collapse

Nope. Its the varroa mite. We have generous use of pesticides here but no varroa mite and our bee population is healthy. So healthy infact that US farmers are paying for OUR bees for polination.


My hives are all dead now. I will not put in more unless at another location, far away from crops.

Sorry to hear that. I have been waching the suituation in the US and it is indeed truely sad.

I just bought 6 kg of delicious and healthy prime Iron Bark honey for $7 /kg. Things here are fine. The Dept. of Ag and CSIRO are keeping a VERY close eye in the verroa mite.

[cheka.]

lots of hype around this for years....but food production marches on

something doesnt square

[Shami-Amourae]

At this pace, human pollination by hand will be a job that could be paid big bucks, get ready for a new career. A vision I had a few months ago :(


You know, there's a bunch of small bug sized flying drones being developed. I wonder if those would replace bees in the future.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KMI7HIhKdIo/maxresdefault.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6e8e0HR5pE

[Neuro]

You know, there's a bunch of small bug sized flying drones being developed. I wonder if those would replace bees in the future.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KMI7HIhKdIo/maxresdefault.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6e8e0HR5pE

Nah, this is a job only real insects or humans can perform... Everything else will be done by robots.

[skid]

My two hives are doing extremely well. In fact I'm splitting one thriving hive to make a third. I am a ways from any industrial agriculture and use the bees to pollinate my orchard.

[singular_me]

My two hives are doing extremely well. In fact I'm splitting one thriving hive to make a third. I am a ways from any industrial agriculture and use the bees to pollinate my orchard.

from what I have noticed, it depends on the area. Up here, hives tend to have short life spans ... 2or 3 summers or so if lucky. Many beekeepers have given up.

[singular_me]

that could be possible after depopulation to replenish the earth. But a long while ago, 15 years or so, I read the Engines Of Creation (free ebook) which says that nanotech will offer at some point the possibility to replicate whatever cell/atom at will. No need to destroy nature nor killing animals for food. But hold on, the chapter 11 of the book is entitled: The Engines of Destruction.

think I am going to read it again as to refresh my memories

online version
http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/EOC/EOC_Table_of_Contents.html


I do not mind the knowledge but the archonic mindset behind it.



You know, there's a bunch of small bug sized flying drones being developed. I wonder if those would replace bees in the future.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KMI7HIhKdIo/maxresdefault.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6e8e0HR5pE

[brosil]

I listened to an organic beekeeper who thinks the varroa problem is due to oversize bees. He said that when bees build their own size combs, they end up smaller and the mites don't like them. He started using frames with no wax but a triangular wooden piece at the top. The bees built it out themselves and were smaller but had few mites.

[woodman]

I have read that honey bees did not live in the Americas before European colonization. Obviously most crops will grow without them. They probably increase yield on many crops though. The main thing to take from this is that something that kills the bees is loose in the land. What is it and is it affecting other parts of this inter-related system that keeps us all alive? Varroa mites have been around for a long time without causing such catastrophic losses nation wide. Reports I've seen do not point to mites.

[skid]

There are lots of native bees and other insects to pollinate flowers. When my orchard of around 100 trees/shrubs was in bloom this spring there were literally hundreds of thousands if not millions of insects pollinating the trees. The majority weren't bees.

[Neuro]

There are lots of native bees and other insects to pollinate flowers. When my orchard of around 100 trees/shrubs was in bloom this spring there were literally hundreds of thousands if not millions of insects pollinating the trees. The majority weren't bees.

Yes, probably it is mainly monocultures like almonds, apples, plums that require bees shipped in to pollinate, because after blooming the land can't support the massive amounts of bees in the cultures required for a good harvest, if you instead have many different crops with different flowering times, and it would either attract the insects required or support the domesticated bees.

If you send those bees around like a pimp works his whores, you shouldn't be surprised they get sick.

[singular_me]

just plain evil in plain sight again

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EPA acknowledges deadly effects of pesticides on bees, but refuses to restrict their use
24 January 2017 GMT

‘In a disconnect of mammoth proportions, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has just acknowledged the threat to bee populations posed by neonicotinoid pesticides, while simultaneously reversing its position regarding a proposal to limit their use.

On January 12, the EPA admitted for the first time that three commonly used neonicotinoid pesticides – clothianidin, thiamethoxam and dinetofuran – pose a significant risk to bee populations. The agency’s updated analysis also acknowledged the threat posed by a fourth neonicotinoid compound – imidacloprid – which can harm both pollinators and aquatic insect species.

But on the very same day that the analysis was released, the EPA also announced that it had withdrawn its support for a proposal to introduce limited restrictions on the use of neonicotinoids in fields where honey bees are present. In place of the proposed restrictions, the agency announced a set of voluntary guidelines that do not impose mandatory compliance.’....
http://naturalnews.com/2017-01-23-epa-acknowledges-deadly-effects-of-pesticides-on-bees-but-ignores-bill-on-restricting-their-use.html


Europe urged to expand pesticide ban for bees' sake
January 12, 2017
https://phys.org/news/2017-01-europe-urged-pesticide-bees-sake.html


'It's Outrageous': EPA Acknowledges Proven Dangers of Bee-Killing Pesticides But Refuses to Restrict Them
http://www.ecowatch.com/epa-neonicotinoid-pesticides-2191476291.html

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'Bees find pollen through electrical signals from flowers'
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?90005-Bees-find-pollen-through-electrical-signals-from-flowers&highlight=bees

[woodman]

just plain evil in plain sight again

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EPA acknowledges deadly effects of pesticides on bees, but refuses to restrict their use
24 January 2017 GMT

‘In a disconnect of mammoth proportions, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has just acknowledged the threat to bee populations posed by neonicotinoid pesticides, while simultaneously reversing its position regarding a proposal to limit their use.

On January 12, the EPA admitted for the first time that three commonly used neonicotinoid pesticides – clothianidin, thiamethoxam and dinetofuran – pose a significant risk to bee populations. The agency’s updated analysis also acknowledged the threat posed by a fourth neonicotinoid compound – imidacloprid – which can harm both pollinators and aquatic insect species.

But on the very same day that the analysis was released, the EPA also announced that it had withdrawn its support for a proposal to introduce limited restrictions on the use of neonicotinoids in fields where honey bees are present. In place of the proposed restrictions, the agency announced a set of voluntary guidelines that do not impose mandatory compliance.’....
http://naturalnews.com/2017-01-23-epa-acknowledges-deadly-effects-of-pesticides-on-bees-but-ignores-bill-on-restricting-their-use.html


Europe urged to expand pesticide ban for bees' sake
January 12, 2017
https://phys.org/news/2017-01-europe-urged-pesticide-bees-sake.html


'It's Outrageous': EPA Acknowledges Proven Dangers of Bee-Killing Pesticides But Refuses to Restrict Them
http://www.ecowatch.com/epa-neonicotinoid-pesticides-2191476291.html

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'Bees find pollen through electrical signals from flowers'
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?90005-Bees-find-pollen-through-electrical-signals-from-flowers&highlight=bees

This kind of goes hand in hand with our discussion in your corruption map thread. The EPA is corrupted to the core. If you have political clout, you can do as you will. It is a strange case in this country where lawlessness mimics lawfulness. The agencies are corrupted and the agents follow orders from 'on high'. So what is more blatantly corrupt, a case of individuals under the auspices of authority being personally corrupt or a case where the corruption is mandated from the center? I'd say that corrupt center is far worse than decay on the outer edges. When the center is corrupt, the outer actors are corrupt even if they happen to be individuals of integrity.

I no longer have any hives. My bees all died off and I got tired of replenishing them with new queens and workers every year. It also creeps me out knowing that the bees died from visiting the plants they made the honey from. If the plants or something on the plants killed them off, how healthy is the honey for humans? It sure was tasty though. Before they started putting in crops around me I was getting flows of honey from wildflowers and the taste was incredible! Some agricultural firm has come in and is leasing land locally to grown GMO crops, corn and soybeans. What a sham. What a shame. All the subsidies for these crops should be removed. This a huge concern (corporate) putting in these crops and I imagine they are getting subsidized in some way.

[singular_me]

sorry to hear this about your hives, really! And agree with your assumptions and assessments. Yeah GMOs/MSGs/roundup issues are making the system rot from the inside out.

I moved from NM to FL for a while, and here they are spraying heavily for mosquitoes on a regular basis, there is no longer any safe place now. And I am sure it is also affecting the bees .





This kind of goes hand in hand with our discussion in your corruption map thread. The EPA is corrupted to the core. If you have political clout, you can do as you will. It is a strange case in this country where lawlessness mimics lawfulness. The agencies are corrupted and the agents follow orders from 'on high'. So what is more blatantly corrupt, a case of individuals under the auspices of authority being personally corrupt or a case where the corruption is mandated from the center? I'd say that corrupt center is far worse than decay on the outer edges. When the center is corrupt, the outer actors are corrupt even if they happen to be individuals of integrity.

I no longer have any hives. My bees all died off and I got tired of replenishing them with new queens and workers every year. It also creeps me out knowing that the bees died from visiting the plants they made the honey from. If the plants or something on the plants killed them off, how healthy is the honey for humans? It sure was tasty though. Before they started putting in crops around me I was getting flows of honey from wildflowers and the taste was incredible! Some agricultural firm has come in and is leasing land locally to grown GMO crops, corn and soybeans. What a sham. What a shame. All the subsidies for these crops should be removed. This a huge concern (corporate) putting in these crops and I imagine they are getting subsidized in some way.

[singular_me]

total food control in sight... drone to help create areas only where food will be authorized to grow is the only explanation here as drones will follow orders.

that is how money gets everybody... investors would believe anything that looks like a good idea, while completely turning a blind eye to natural laws. Chemical are legal so lets buy stocks and now poor dying bees, they need to be replaced unfortunately.

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Serious bees-ness: Pollinator drones could replace endangered insects
11 February 2017 GMT

‘Japanese scientists are developing pollinator drones that can assume the vital role bees normally play in the planet’s ecosystem.

Dr Eijiro Miyako, from the National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology, experimented with an ionic liquid gel and found that drones coated in the gel could fly between lily flowers, collecting and depositing pollen much the same as their black and gold organic counterparts would.’
https://www.rt.com/viral/377014-pollinator-drones-could-replace-bees/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Untitled-1-23.jpg