Trump's indebtedness to Deutsche Bank: $100 million or more

[singular_me]

trump is just another brutal capitalist... he is technically bankrupt and obviously has a master.

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Trump Has a $100 Million Conflict of Interest
2 June 2016 GMT

‘Because Trump chose to write only the amount he must disclose, we can’t know the real extent of his indebtedness to Deutsche Bank. It’s at least $100 million, but Trump could be into them for much more. Is it $300 million? A billion? More? He’s not telling.

“And this prompts a question that no other major American presidential candidate has had to face: What are the implications of the chief executive of the US government being in hock for $100 million (or more) to a foreign entity that has tried to evade laws aimed at curtailing risky financial shenanigans, that was recently caught manipulating markets around the world, and that attempts to influence the US government?”

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trumps-100-million-conflict-interest


Trump Has a Conflict-of-Interest Problem No Other White House Candidate Ever Had
He owes at least $100 million to a foreign bank that's battled with US regulators.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-german-loan-deutsche-bank

[EE_]

The article is written by liberals, probably to try to take some heat off failing crooked Hillary and to push to get him to release his taxes...so the gay liberals can pick them apart...to take heat off the criminal Clinton's. Of course Trump's corporations have financial agreements with big banks. Nothing to see here.
Just another hit piece by the faggot loving liberals out to finish destroying what's left of this country.

[singular_me]

always pay attention to what the other side says... I do.

both sides have the habit to hide info about their own, just as dems will not speak about clinton



The article is written by liberals, probably to try to take some heat off failing crooked Hillary and to push to get him to release his taxes...so the gay liberals can pick them apart...to take heat off the criminal Clinton's. Of course Trump's corporations have financial agreements with big banks. Nothing to see here.
Just another hit piece by the faggot loving liberals out to finish destroying what's left of this country.

[EE_]

always attention to what the other side says... I do.

The article wreaks of desperation. Don't worry Uncle Joe is on the way to rescue the failing liberal party.

Liberal - the dirtiest word in the world
(note: when I use the word 'liberal', I mean it as the worst possible thing you can call anyone...worse then 'faggot, 'n-----', 'pedophile', 'feltcher', etc. because it covers all the very worst anyone can imagine)

[midnight rambler]

always attention to what the other side says... I do.

what if the other side are proven bald-faced liars with a collectivist agenda?

[singular_me]

possible MN, but I have too often noticed that there isnt any smoke without fire. Additionally trump has filed 3 or 4 times for chapter 9 already.

beside ron paul (who may have been a controlled opposition too) politicians cannot be trusted

[Neuro]

If you owe a bank $200,000 you are on their hook. If you owe a bank $100 million, they are on your hook. Besides there is no difference between Deutche Bank, JPM, Citi or Goldman Sachs, they all got bailed out in the too big to fail fuckfest, by the federal reserve and US Gov bailout, they are all foreign entities controlled by Jews.

[Jerrylynnb]

Advice to singular_me, who says:

"I have too often noticed that there isnt any smoke without fire."

The world's MASTERS at fireless smoke are THE JEWS.

They can put on a show for you that will have you believing in the impossible, thinking that you saw it with your own eyes, heard it with your own ears, or experienced it yourself in the flesh.

No sir.

Before suspecting there might be fire when you see smoke, look to see WHO IS MAKING THE SMOKE? If it is a jew, or a jew-lackey, then you are safe to PAY IT NO MIND.

Better advice, you are not only SAFE to pay it no mind, you are much better off to dispense with it AUTOMATICALLY without a further thought, and, should you instead delve into it looking for the fire, you are wasting your time and you risk falling prey to the jew's expert practice of presenting PHONY FIRE for you to think you see.

Just a word of advice from a septuagenarian who has a lifetime of experience dealing with, and losing bigtime (at times), to the shenanigans of them jews, because, for the first sixty years of life I just couldn't let myself believe the jews are the accomlished decivers that they truly are - go read the protocols of the learned elders of zion and listen to the audio books of "Nature's Eternal Religeon", as read by James Mac - that ought to give you a big boost in getting yourself to be "jew-wise" and less apt to fall prey to their phony baloney smoke.

As to Trump's "indebtedness" to that bank, just give it a moment's thought.

Were you to be a hotel builder, you would, of course, have to secure financing to start the project, expecting to make enough profits from the hotel to easily pay back the loans and then some. The bank ALSO expects this so they are willing to put up the money (which isn't theirs, but belongs to their investors, who also agree).

So, at anytime during your lifetime as a builder of hotels, you'll have open loans on projects you are building, or have finished and are paying off as expected. You will also have hotels that are fully paid for and are bringing in millions, nay tens of millions, every MONTH, and, you don't have to give a moment's worry about the loans you have on the current Hotel projects - the proceeds from these hotels take care of these loans.

If you argue that you shouldn't have to borrow money to build a hotel, then, you would be revealing your total ignorance about the building and real estate business - nobody can become an international builder without establishing a regular arrangement with financial institutions to put up the initial money to get the various projects started in the first place.

This story is a flimsy, desperate, "hit piece" and doesn't merit the time we have already spent on it.

[ximmy]

If you owe a bank $200,000 you are on their hook. If you owe a bank $100 million, they are on your hook. Besides there is no difference between Deutche Bank, JPM, Citi or Goldman Sachs, they all got bailed out in the too big to fail fuckfest, by the federal reserve and US Gov bailout, they are all foreign entities controlled by Jews.

True True

From Miami Vice:

Money is a commodity Like oil or water.
And that American dollar is the best brand there is in the world.
Now, those of us who have it can make more of it by loaning it to those who don't.
Not so long ago our bank Loaned a lot of money to our friends in Latin America.
We are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars.
Now, they aren't going to repay that by selling straw bags and clay pots.
If these Latin borrowers default we would be decimated.
And we are America.
We are the entire free world.
When we sneeze everybody catches cold.
That's why it's very, very important that we nurture and protect our Latin brother's major cash crops.
Especially those that he measures in kilos.

[osoab]

Advice to singular_me, who says:

"I have too often noticed that there isnt any smoke without fire."

The world's MASTERS at fireless smoke are THE JEWS.

They can put on a show for you that will have you believing in the impossible, thinking that you saw it with your own eyes, heard it with your own ears, or experienced it yourself in the flesh.

No sir.

Before suspecting there might be fire when you see smoke, look to see WHO IS MAKING THE SMOKE? If it is a jew, or a jew-lackey, then you are safe to PAY IT NO MIND.

Better advice, you are not only SAFE to pay it no mind, you are much better off to dispense with it AUTOMATICALLY without a further thought, and, should you instead delve into it looking for the fire, you are wasting your time and you risk falling prey to the jew's expert practice of presenting PHONY FIRE for you to think you see.

Just a word of advice from a septuagenarian who has a lifetime of experience dealing with, and losing bigtime (at times), to the shenanigans of them jews, because, for the first sixty years of life I just couldn't let myself believe the jews are the accomlished decivers that they truly are - go read the protocols of the learned elders of zion and listen to the audio books of "Nature's Eternal Religeon", as read by James Mac - that ought to give you a big boost in getting yourself to be "jew-wise" and less apt to fall prey to their phony baloney smoke.

As to Trump's "indebtedness" to that bank, just give it a moment's thought.

Were you to be a hotel builder, you would, of course, have to secure financing to start the project, expecting to make enough profits from the hotel to easily pay back the loans and then some. The bank ALSO expects this so they are willing to put up the money (which isn't theirs, but belongs to their investors, who also agree).

So, at anytime during your lifetime as a builder of hotels, you'll have open loans on projects you are building, or have finished and are paying off as expected. You will also have hotels that are fully paid for and are bringing in millions, nay tens of millions, every MONTH, and, you don't have to give a moment's worry about the loans you have on the current Hotel projects - the proceeds from these hotels take care of these loans.

If you argue that you shouldn't have to borrow money to build a hotel, then, you would be revealing your total ignorance about the building and real estate business - nobody can become an international builder without establishing a regular arrangement with financial institutions to put up the initial money to get the various projects started in the first place.

This story is a flimsy, desperate, "hit piece" and doesn't merit the time we have already spent on it.

The loan money is created out of thin air.

[Spectrism]

And what collateral was used? Any details? A large building project that is financed can be that large- easily. That is usually how building projects run. They are funded by banks with notes covering the deal. So where is the problem?

[Ponce]

And you will hear more, more and MORE garbage about him like........one of his kids had an abortion because of him...... believe in only what you feel and not in what you hear or see...... "Ponce for Trump"........ but, he will take us to war.

V

[midnight rambler]

he will take us to war.

V

So you're saying is there's no substantial difference between Trump and what we've been getting for the past five decades?

[midnight rambler]

And what collateral was used? Any details? A large building project that is financed can be that large- easily. That is usually how building projects run. They are funded by banks with notes covering the deal. So where is the problem?

Right, for a single large project a $100 million loan isn't diddlely-squat.

[Neuro]

So you're saying is there's no substantial difference between Trump and what we've been getting for the past five decades?

Which president since Woodrow Wilson didn't go to war. Hoover?

[midnight rambler]

Which president since Woodrow Wilson didn't go to war. Hoover?

Kennedy.

[Cebu_4_2]

Kennedy.


Sure? Please advise:

John F Kennedy and Vietnam Citation: C N Trueman "John F Kennedy and Vietnam"
historylearningsite.co.uk. The History Learning Site, 27 Mar 2015. 3 Mar 2016.


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John Fitzgerald Kennedy was a fervent believer in containing communism. In his first speech on becoming president, Kennedy made it clear that he would continue the policy of the former President, Dwight Eisenhower, and support the government of Diem in South Vietnam. Kennedy also made it plain that he supported the ‘Domino Theory’ and he was convinced that if South Vietnam fell to communism, then other states in the region would as a consequence. This Kennedy was not prepared to contemplate.

Kennedy received conflicting advice with regards to Vietnam. Charles De Gaulle warned Kennedy that Vietnam and warfare in Vietnam would trap America in a “bottomless military and political swamp”. This was based on the experience the French had at Dien Bien Phu (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/dien_bien_phu.htm), which left a sizeable psychological scar of French foreign policy for some years. However, Kennedy had more daily contact with ‘hawks’ in Washington DC who believed that American (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/america_vietnam.htm) forces would be far better equipped and prepared for conflict in Vietnam than the French had been. They believed that just a small increase in US support for Diem would ensure success in Vietnam. The ‘hawks’ in particular were strong supporters in the ‘Domino Theory’.

Also Kennedy had to show just exactly what he meant when he said that America should:

“Pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend…to assure the survival and success of liberty ”.

In 1961 (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/timeline_vietnam_war.htm), Kennedy agreed that America should finance an increase in the size of the South Vietnamese Army (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/south_vietnamese_army.htm)from 150,000 to 170,000. He also agreed that an extra 1000 US military advisors should be sent to South Vietnam to help train the South Vietnamese Army. Both of these decisions were not made public as they broke the agreements made at the 1954 Geneva Agreement.

It was during Kennedy’s presidency that the ‘Strategic Hamlet’ programme was introduced. This failed badly and almost certainly drove a number of South Vietnamese peasants into supporting the North Vietnamese communists. This forcible moving of peasants into secure compounds was supported by Diem and did a great deal to further the opposition to him in the South. American television reporters relayed to the US public that ‘Strategic Hamlet’ destroyed decades, if not hundreds, of years of village life in the South and that the process might only take half-a-day. Here was a super-power effectively orchestrating the forced removal of peasants by the South Vietnamese Army who were not asked if they wanted to move. To those who knew about US involvement in Vietnam and were opposed to it, ‘Strategic Hamlet’ provided them with an excellent propaganda opportunity.

Kennedy was informed about the anger of the South Vietnamese peasants and was shocked to learn that membership of the NLF (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/national_liberation_front.htm) had increased, according to US Intelligence, by 300% in a two year time span – the years when ‘Strategic Hamlet’ was in operation. Kennedy’s response was to send more military advisors to Vietnam so that by the end of 1962 (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/timeline_vietnam_war.htm) there were 12,000 of these advisors in South Vietnam. As well as sending more advisors to South Vietnam, Kennedy also sent 300 helicopters with US pilots. They were told to avoid military combat at all costs but this became all but impossible to fulfil.

Kennedy’s presidency also saw the response to the Diem government by some Buddhist monks. On June 11th 1963, Thich Quang Duc, a Buddhist monk, committed suicide on a busy Saigon road by being burned to death. Other Buddhist monks followed his example in August 1963 (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/timeline_vietnam_war.htm). Television reported these events throughout the world. A member of Diem’s government said:

“Let them burn, and we shall clap our hands.”

Another member of Diem’s government was heard to say that he would be happy to provide Buddhist monks with petrol.

Kennedy became convinced that Diem could never unite South Vietnam and he agreed that the CIA should initiate a programme to overthrow him. A CIA operative, Lucien Conein, provided some South Vietnamese generals with $40,000 to overthrow Diem with the added guarantee that the US would not protect the South Vietnam leader. Diem was overthrown and killed in November 1963. Kennedy was assassinated three weeks later.

[Ponce]

For your info, since 1776 the US has been at "complete" peace or only eight years.....also, the Zionist (or Jews) are to be blamed for 85% of all wars... and usually they have someone fight their wars of conquest....next? he who lives next door.

V

[Glass]

Didn't Trump make $500 million last year? I remember reading something about that in a story about him not releasing his tax returns and a whole lot of other muck. He is being Audited by the IRS of course. They need to load up as much pressure as possible, so law suits from Training Academy's where the only claimants are from the usual suspects and run by anti whites, law suits against his NYC facility claiming he closed off part of it to hold news conferences and or functions without telling the City he was doing it. Apparently he needs to tell them when he is holding a function, in his own building.

So they have called all the pack dogs are out, to get nipping at his heels.

[keehah]

A man with his personal crisis tired of life?
Or antidotal info to add to the rumors that Deutsche bank is going bankrupt?
Or the banker could not handle the scrutiny and pressure (Zersetzunging) of the getting ever more hysterical, treasonous deep-state cabal pressuring anyone that may have dirt on President Trump.

LAMag.com: Former Deutsche Bank Exec Connected to Trump Loans Dies by Suicide in Malibu (https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/deutsche-bank-death/)

November 27, 2019
A former Deutsche Bank executive who reportedly signed off on some of the institution’s unorthodox loans to Donald Trump killed himself in his Malibu home on November 19. Thomas Bowers, the onetime head of Deutsche Bank’s American wealth-management division, where he oversaw Trump’s private banker, committed suicide by hanging, according to Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner’s office. Bowers was 55.

Trump’s relationship with Deutsche Bank—which lent him around $2 billion after most other institutions had forsaken him for his history of defaults and bankruptcies—has come under investigation by two Congressional committees and the New York Attorney General, who are hoping the bank can shed light on Trump’s elusive finances, according to the New York Times...

Rosemary T. Vrablic, a managing director at Deutsche Bank who became Trump’s private banker in 2010 after being introduced by her client, Jared Kushner, reported directly to Bowers [who was the head of the American wealth-management division]. Vrablic reportedly helped Trump secure loans from her bank, which Bowers approved...

Bowers hasn’t been employed by Deutsche since at least 2015, when he joined Starwood Capitol Group as COO, and was then appointed to the Board of Directors of Opus Bank in 2016.

[Neuro]

A man with his personal crisis tired of life?
Or antidotal info to add to the rumors that Deutsche bank is going bankrupt?
Or the banker could not handle the scrutiny and pressure (Zersetzunging) of the getting ever more hysterical, treasonous deep-state cabal pressuring anyone that may have dirt on President Trump.

LAMag.com: Former Deutsche Bank Exec Connected to Trump Loans Dies by Suicide in Malibu (https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/deutsche-bank-death/)

It may even be that he was suicided to add to the “reality” of the rumors...