Sandy Hook Lawsuit Against Gun Manufacturers Is Going to Court

[mick silver]

Sandy Hook Lawsuit Against Gun Manufacturers Is Going to Court Source: USA Firearm Training (http://www.usafirearmtraining.com/safety/law-enforcement-to-inform-or-not-to-inform/#comment-139426)http://www.usafirearmtraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Sandy-Hook-Gun-Lawsuit.png This week a judge in the state of Connecticut denied a motion by gun manufacturers to dismiss what could be a landmark case for the industry.
Families of many of those whose lives were lost in the tragic shooting in Sandy Hook are filing a lawsuit against these companies for “making a gun they knew or should have known served no purpose but to kill large numbers of people.
The gun companies named in the suit filed a motion to dismiss the suit under the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA). It’s a 2005 federal law that allows gun businesses broad immunity from civil lawsuits. Connecticut State Judge Barbara Bellis rejected the gun companies’ motion.
So this is one that will go onto court and if the plaintiffs are successful this could change everything we know about guns in America.

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[Twisted Titan]

Let them go for discovery that law firm should be able to tear the opposition to shreds

[JohnQPublic]

Let them go for discovery that law firm should be able to tear the opposition to shreds Who died? Where are the death certificates? Habeas corpus.

[boogietillyapuke]

Guns purpose is to kill "something". Gun did it's designed job. Where's the liability issue?

Maybe they should try the police dept., their purpose is allegedly to keep you safe........fail.

[hoarder]

Now that most gun manufacturers have been taken over by Jews, we can bet on a weak defense so that they can set a precedent.

[Neuro]

Now that most gun manufacturers have been taken over by Jews, we can bet on a weak defense so that they can set a precedent.

You think they went into gun making to take one for the team?

[Neuro]

The gun companies named in the suit filed a motion to dismiss the suit under the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA). It’s a 2005 federal law that allows gun businesses broad immunity from civil lawsuits. Connecticut State Judge Barbara Bellis rejected the gun companies’ motion.
Great, this must mean that parents will be able to sue pharmaceutical companies for injuries to their children caused by vaccines too!

[hoarder]

You think they went into gun making to take one for the team?It makes strategic sense. The goyim only look at the profit motive and don't understand the tribe uses commerce as a weapon.

[Ares]

Great, this must mean that parents will be able to sue pharmaceutical companies for injuries to their children caused by vaccines too!

The defense should file a motion against the judge for violating federal law.

[Neuro]

It makes strategic sense. The goyim only look at the profit motive and don't understand the tribe uses commerce as a weapon.

Perhaps... Do you have any example of Jews taking one for the team, by willingly entering a losing proposition for the purpose of achieving a greater aim for the entirety of Jewry?

[hoarder]

Perhaps... Do you have any example of Jews taking one for the team, by willingly entering a losing proposition for the purpose of achieving a greater aim for the entirety of Jewry?They do whatever has the greatest strategic benefit to them. When you have the power to issue loans out of thin air to take over corporations, are you really losing anything when you destroy those corporations? If they lose anything, they'll make up for it in the derivatives market with the foreknowledge of what a corporation will be worth tomorrow.

The best way to figure out what Jews will do next is to figure out what has the greatest strategic benefit, not by what they say.

Wealth, power and influence are interchangeable. Since the goyim think they can figure things out by following the money, the Jews simply exchange money for power, as in this example. The goyim never figure it out.

[Neuro]

They do whatever has the greatest strategic benefit to them. When you have the power to issue loans out of thin air to take over corporations, are you really losing anything when you destroy those corporations? If they lose anything, they'll make up for it in the derivatives market with the foreknowledge of what a corporation will be worth tomorrow.

The best way to figure out what Jews will do next is to figure out what has the greatest strategic benefit, not by what they say.

Wealth, power and influence are interchangeable. Since the goyim think they can figure things out by following the money, the Jews simply exchange money for power, as in this example. The goyim never figure it out.

Goyim in general don't figure out anything re Jews, not even the money trails. Lucky Larry Silverstein for instance positioned himself perfectly to get the most monetary return from the 9/11 strategic terror demolitions with the least amount of investment. You should have a few examples of where they positioned themselves to take a monetary loss for a strategic gain for Jewry... If they are in the gun industry, as you say they are, and they have decided to take a loss on cases like these, they have an excuse to raise prices and gotten guarantees that them limiting gun sales in the future to the public will be taken up by government orders. No way a Jew in the know will take a personal loss to benefit Jewry at large. They don't have it in them!

[hoarder]

Goyim in general don't figure out anything re Jews, not even the money trails. Lucky Larry Silverstein for instance positioned himself perfectly to get the most monetary return from the 9/11 strategic terror demolitions with the least amount of investment. You should have a few examples of where they positioned themselves to take a monetary loss for a strategic gain for Jewry... If they are in the gun industry, as you say they are, and they have decided to take a loss on cases like these, they have an excuse to raise prices and gotten guarantees that them limiting gun sales in the future to the public will be taken up by government orders. Do you realize you're asking for an information-based confirmation of a logic based assertion?

Why do you think Jews have taken over so many firearms/ammo manufacturers in the first place? Do you really think the motive was profit? Historically, gun companies have been run on the narrowest of profit margins by people who love firearms. The only way to increase the profits would be to reduce the quality....which has the same end result....marginalizing gun ownership.
No way a Jew in the know will take a personal loss to benefit Jewry at large. They don't have it in them!What loss are they taking when destroying a corporation they buy with money issued out of thin air and playing the derivatives market on the foreknowledge of that company taking a dive.

Really, what do you think their end game is when buying up gun companies? Do you think it would put them at odds with their gun control counterparts?

[Neuro]

Do you realize you're asking for an information-based confirmation of a logic based assertion?

Why do you think Jews have taken over so many firearms/ammo manufacturers in the first place? Do you really think the motive was profit? Historically, gun companies have been run on the narrowest of profit margins by people who love firearms. The only way to increase the profits would be to reduce the quality....which has the same end result....marginalizing gun ownership.What loss are they taking when destroying a corporation they buy with money issued out of thin air and playing the derivatives market on the foreknowledge of that company taking a dive.

Really, what do you think their end game is when buying up gun companies? Do you think it would put them at odds with their gun control counterparts?

Actually the easiest way of increasing your profit margins is to increase price. Jews did this with diamonds, perfumes, alcohol, cigarettes, fashion brand clothes. Being ordered to pay restitution for these fictional killings gives them the perfect excuse to do so. Non-Jewish competition will be wiped out, as you say because they don't have the access to free finance as the Jews in business do. The Jew judge will make sure the non-Jew businesses get disproportionately hit. Government orders will take up the brunt of loss of consumer orders. But it is much better to sell 50.000 guns with 50% profit margin vs 100.000 at 10% margin!

[hoarder]

Actually the easiest way of increasing your profit margins is to increase price. Jews did this with diamonds, perfumes, alcohol, cigarettes, fashion brand clothes. Being ordered to pay restitution for these fictional killings gives them the perfect excuse to do so. Non-Jewish competition will be wiped out, as you say because they don't have the access to free finance as the Jews in business do. The Jew judge will make sure the non-Jew businesses get disproportionately hit. Government orders will take up the brunt of loss of consumer orders. But it is much better to sell 50.000 guns with 50% profit margin vs 100.000 at 10% margin!You ignored my points, Neuro. But never mind, the end result will reveal the original intention.

[Neuro]

You ignored my points, Neuro. But never mind, the end result will reveal the original intention.

Fair enough! I did address them in a roundabout way though. I do think Jews as a group has a strategic reason for taking over the gun and ammo manufacturers, and also to control the business from the legal/lawmaking side. However their control of law and lawmaking would essentially make the control of the business unnecessary. America has 350 million firearms aproximately nowadays, closing down all weapons manufacturers you'ld probably still would have about 300 million guns 10 years later. With all of them remaining you'ld have 400 million arms 10 years later. Most of the increase probably in the group that already owns 5+ guns, so really not to much of a change in Strength on the ground. Thus strategic control of goyims defense doesn't really have much of an impact with control of weapons manufacturing. Either scenario wouldn't create that much difference.

Thus it is more likely that the Jews that took over the gun industry did it to make a profit as I outlined in the previous post...

The end result doesn't always reveal the original intention, sometimes shit just happens!

[hoarder]

However their control of law and lawmaking would essentially make the control of the business unnecessary. Playing the cat and mouse with the goyim on gun issues has been a whole lot of work for them, having the firearms business is useful to engineer a staged lawsuit in which they know the defense will fail. They will choose the legal team.
Thus strategic control of goyims defense doesn't really have much of an impact with control of weapons manufacturing. They do hundreds, even thousands of things to the goyim that don't make much difference by themselves. It's a war of a thousand pin pricks.

Shit will happen and not by accident.

[Neuro]

Playing the cat and mouse with the goyim on gun issues has been a whole lot of work for them, having the firearms business is useful to engineer a staged lawsuit in which they know the defense will fail. They will choose the legal team. They do hundreds, even thousands of things to the goyim that don't make much difference by themselves. It's a war of a thousand pin pricks.

Shit will happen and not by accident.

Did you get bannned from GIM2 because it was your original intent?

[Jewboo]

Did you get banned from GIM2 because it was your original intent?

LOL. I too tease Hoarder for using that illogical line but he still keeps using it.

:D

[hoarder]

Did you get bannned from GIM2 because it was your original intent?Strawman. The phrase refers to situations when the end result has strategic value to those who have ulterior motives. For example when a certain tribe uses a phony cause or legislation under false pretenses as a Trojan Horse to implement another end result.



LOL. I too tease Hoarder for using that illogical line but he still keeps using it.

:D
It's only illogical to you because you don't get it. It's about strategy.

[cheka.]

They do whatever has the greatest strategic benefit to them. When you have the power to issue loans out of thin air to take over corporations, are you really losing anything when you destroy those corporations? If they lose anything, they'll make up for it in the derivatives market with the foreknowledge of what a corporation will be worth tomorrow.

The best way to figure out what Jews will do next is to figure out what has the greatest strategic benefit, not by what they say.

Wealth, power and influence are interchangeable. Since the goyim think they can figure things out by following the money, the Jews simply exchange money for power, as in this example. The goyim never figure it out.

agree times ten. they have NO problem losing money to advance their bloodthirst

see every major newspaper for proof

see msnbc tv channel for even more proof

.....there are scores of examples where they willingly lose (faux) money in order to serve the hate agenda

note that no gold is sacrificed to the cause. just satan's scrip

[Jewboo]

It's only illogical to you because you don't get it.



You frequently over-used it asserting that Hitler "intentionally" lost WWII because............get ready for it..........drum roll..........he lost the war. Both me and Neuro therefore conclude you "intentionally" got yourself banned at GIM2 because the end result reveals your original intention.

:rolleyes: can't have it both ways

[Neuro]

agree times ten. they have NO problem losing money to advance their bloodthirst

see every major newspaper for proof

see msnbc tv channel for even more proof

.....there are scores of examples where they willingly lose (faux) money in order to serve the hate agenda

note that no gold is sacrificed to the cause. just satan's scrip
Yes I agree, ownership of media is such a strategic asset. In the 90's I was interested in learning about the stock market, and I was astounded of the media companies valuation, where price earnings was regularly 50-100 times the profit the company made if any profit at all, and price to asset valuation was 10 x or more, while in other industries typical valuation was 10-20 x earnings and price to asset was 0.5 to 2x.

At those times I failed to see that the value of owning newspapers and tv-channels was in shaping society and agendas, and Jews were able to bid up the price on those shares to gain the control with cheap money, if they managed to grow their influence they could always sell the shares to another International Jew later on at a higher price, so they didn't actually lose money by owning an asset that didn't generate profit.

The value wasn't in direct economic return but in manipulating politics and people's perception of reality.

[Neuro]

Strawman. The phrase refers to situations when the end result has strategic value to those who have ulterior motives. For example when a certain tribe uses a phony cause or legislation under false pretenses as a Trojan Horse to implement another end result.

It is you who use it when it fits your opinion. You claim the outcome always shows the original intention. My contention is that it is so sometimes, and your ban from GIM2 proves that it is so, you always stayed within the written rules of that forum, argued your case in a respectful manner, despite the vile opposition you had there, you really had no intention of getting banned, but in the end the rules were trumped by dogma (don't expose the Talmudist Jew to the goyim).

You're as much a victim as Hitler was to their agenda. Sure there are many magnitudes of difference between being banned from a forum to losing a world war, but it is the same idea.

[hoarder]

You claim the outcome always shows the original intention..??? Prove it. You remind me of people who claim I stated "all Jews" in my criticism of organized Jewry.

[Neuro]

??? Prove it. You remind me of people who claim I stated "all Jews" in my criticism of organized Jewry.

I am probably wrong, probably it was my memory playing a trick with me. Sorry!

There certainly is a difference between all and most and many!

[Jewboo]

It is you who use it when it fits your opinion. You claim the outcome always shows the original intention. My contention is that it is so sometimes, and your ban from GIM2 proves that it is so, you always stayed within the written rules of that forum, argued your case in a respectful manner, despite the vile opposition you had there, you really had no intention of getting banned, but in the end the rules were trumped by dogma (don't expose the Talmudist Jew to the goyim).

You're as much a victim as Hitler was to their agenda. Sure there are many magnitudes of difference between being banned from a forum to losing a world war, but it is the same idea.



http://im.rediff.com/sports/2016/may/08box-amir.jpg

Nuero is logical. Hoarder's result=intent nonsense is just that. Nonsense. Makes no sense.

All losers intended to lose.

Many losers intended to lose.

Some losers intended to lose.


Here Hoarder is now demanding proof but whenever asked to prove his claim that Hitler intentionally lost WWII his "proof" has always been...wait for it...drum roll..........................................."the result reveals the intent".

:D that ain't proof

[Neuro]

http://im.rediff.com/sports/2016/may/08box-amir.jpg

Nuero is logical. Hoarder's result=intent nonsense is just that. Nonsense. Makes no sense.

All losers intended to lose.

Many losers intended to lose.

Some losers intended to lose.


Here Hoarder is now demanding proof but whenever asked to prove his claim that Hitler intentionally lost WWII his "proof" has always been...wait for it...drum roll..........................................."the result reveals the intent".

:D that ain't proof



If Hitlers intent was to lose, the 3rd reich would have crumbled a lot earlier. For certain he made a lot of strategic and tactical mistakes, but he kept the German people motivated until the end. If your intention is to lose, you don't do that.

[Jewboo]

If Hitlers intent was to lose, the 3rd reich would have crumbled a lot earlier. For certain he made a lot of strategic and tactical mistakes, but he kept the German people motivated until the end. If your intention is to lose, you don't do that.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NfrHWyydLiI/UT-42Yic2-I/AAAAAAAAC-c/lAJ4hYckQKE/s1600/The+last+known+picture+of+Adolf+Hitler,+April+30,+ 1945.jpg

This last known picture of Hitler was taken approximately two days prior to his death as he stands outside his Berlin bunker entrance surveying the devastating bomb damage. With Germany lying in ruins after six years of war, and with defeat imminent, Hitler decided to take his own life. But before doing so, he married Eva Braun and then penned his last will and testament. The next day in the afternoon on April 30, 1945 Braun and Hitler entered his living room to end their lives.

Later that afternoon the remaining members of the bunker community found Hitler slumped over, and blood spilled over the arm of the couch. Eva was sitting at the other end. Hitler had killed himself by biting down on a cyanide capsule while shooting him self in the head. Eva only used the cyanide capsule. Hitler committed suicide two days before the surrender of Berlin to the Soviets on 2 May, and just over a week before the end of World War II in Europe on 8 May.
Interesting facts:




When Hitler asked his physician to recommend a reliable method of suicide his doctor suggested combining a dose of cyanide with a gunshot to the head.



On the morning of 1 May, thirteen hours after the event, Stalin was informed of Hitler’s suicide. General Hans Krebs had given this information to Soviet General Vasily Chuikov when they met at 04:00 on 1 May, when the Germans attempted to negotiate acceptable surrender terms.





:) No...Hitler started WWII always intending to munch on that cyanide capsule while shooting himself in the head. He planned suicide from the beginning the clever bastard! The end result proves his original intent...don't you see?

[hoarder]

http://im.rediff.com/sports/2016/may/08box-amir.jpg

Nuero is logical. Hoarder's result=intent nonsense is just that. Nonsense. Makes no sense.

All losers intended to lose.

Many losers intended to lose.

Some losers intended to lose.


Here Hoarder is now demanding proof but whenever asked to prove his claim that Hitler intentionally lost WWII his "proof" has always been...wait for it...drum roll..........................................."the result reveals the intent".

:D that ain't proof

That "all" word.


If Hitlers intent was to lose, the 3rd reich would have crumbled a lot earlier. Rule #1: The purpose of war is to kill the goyim. How do you do that if the war stops? War has to last for a while.

[Jewboo]

http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/files/2012/01/thomas-paine-arguing-600x305.jpg

Hoarder still fails to provide us any PROOF that Hitler intentionally lost WWII.

:)

[hoarder]

http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/files/2012/01/thomas-paine-arguing-600x305.jpg

Hoarder still fails to provide us any PROOF that Hitler intentionally lost WWII.

:)
You aren't using reason, you're using information.

[Jewboo]

You aren't using reason, you're using information.

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1439/38/1439386993542.png

Just the opposite. I'm asking for information. I again ask you to provide proof that Hitler intentionally lost WWII. Your response quoted above contains neither reason or information. All you have are a few nonsensical PLATITUDES (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platitude) you keep repeating.

:rolleyes: You just lay down truisms and platitudes...lol

[hoarder]

Just the opposite. I'm asking for information. I again ask you to provide proof that Hitler intentionally lost WWII.You think information is proof and I think reason is proof. Those who think information is proof are at the mercy of those who manufacture it, the Jews.



Your response quoted above contains neither reason or information. All you have are a few nonsensical PLATITUDES (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platitude) you keep repeating.[/SIZE]

:rolleyes: You just lay down truisms and platitudes...lolModus operandi is proof and it is reason.

[Jewboo]

Modus operandi is proof and it is reason.



http://images.nymag.com/news/crimelaw/madoff100614_1_560.jpg
Madoff INTENDED to spend the rest of his jew life in goy prison.



https://www.flexyourrights.org/app/uploads/Jury.Box_.jpg
Ladies and gentlemen...Hoarder INTENDED
to get banned from GIM2. The end result
reveals his original intent.

:rolleyes: if you say so Hoarder

[Neuro]

You think information is proof and I think reason is proof. Those who think information is proof are at the mercy of those who manufacture it, the Jews.Modus operandi is proof and it is reason.

We just agreed that it wasn't ALWAYS so, so why don't you provide supporting evidence to prove your contention?

[hoarder]

We just agreed that it wasn't ALWAYS so, so why don't you provide supporting evidence to prove your contention?We've been through this a half dozen times. Everything fell into place so perfectly for the Jews. Hitler hardly woke anybody up while he was in power, warmonger herded the rest to their deaths, killed the brownshirts who knew, placed Jews in many key positions all around him, destroyed his family cemetery to conceal his ancestry, faked his death which was not questioned by Jews. I could go on and on with information based proof but Schickelgruber worshippers will show Jew-provided information refuting all that.

What is more important than the information is the logic. Jews have established controlled opposition as their modus operandi by placing Marranos in key positions before major events. They did so in this case too, in England and US so why not Germany? Pied Pipers are always good at leading, then make so many mistakes on purpose when they get into power. Everything is decided behind the scenes and scripted when the stakes are high. But nooooooooo, not Hitler. He as the "Great White Hope" that flushed your hopes down the toilet.

[Jewboo]

We've been through this a half dozen times...Hitler...faked his death which was not questioned by Jews. I could go on and on with information based proof...



http://i.imgur.com/n8uhn89.jpg


Ok. Go on with your "proof" that Hitler faked his death.

http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/popcorm1.gif You never provided any before

[hoarder]

Ok. Go on with your "proof" that Hitler faked his death.

The body did not even look like him, yet Jews didn't even question it. Besides, who the hell orders his body burned after suicide and what was it supposed to accomplish?

[Jewboo]

http://i.imgur.com/n8uhn89.jpg


Ok. Go on with your "proof" that Hitler faked his death.

http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/popcorm1.gif You never provided any before

Bump for actual "proof" not your opinion.

:rolleyes:

[hoarder]

Bump for actual "proof" not your opinion.

:rolleyes:
You remind me of the philo-semites who constantly demand "proof", never disclosing what kind of "proof" is acceptable.

[Jewboo]

http://i.imgur.com/n8uhn89.jpg


Ok. Go on with your "proof" that Hitler faked his death.

http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/popcorm1.gif You never provided any before



Bump #2 for actual "proof" not your ad hominem.

[hoarder]

It is impossible to prove something when proof itself is not first defined.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/dispelling-internet-disinformation-tactics-debunking-the-debunkers/



– DEMANDING IMPOSSIBLE PROOF

Disinformation shills sometimes pose as a supporter of the truth, or “friendly folks on the fence” politely asking simple questions, in a sly attempt to later discredit the movement. Often trolls posing as friendly allies will resort to posting long, incoherent diatribes (usually on fake blogs & articles) for the purpose of associating the movement with insanity; or other times to act as a “the voice of reason” and create a debate (where none exists) to make it appear as though the data isn’t strong enough, and they offer to play “devil’s advocate” to “help the movement”, then render any and all data as invalid regardless of how legitimate the source. They will “demand proof” then ignore it when it’s presented, or continue to demand impossible proofs. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, they will deem the material irrelevant and demand unattainable proof that is virtually impossible for the opponent to retrieve; for the purpose of detracting focus from the mounds of legitimate data available for those of us that take the time to do some real research beyond the disinformation site links.

[Jewboo]

We've been through this a half dozen times...Hitler...faked his death which was not questioned by Jews. I could go on and on with information based proof...



So I ask Hoarder to go on and post his information based proof and his response is:




It is impossible to prove something when proof itself is not first defined.






http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1439/38/1439386993542.png

How jewey is that?

:rolleyes:

[7th trump]

So I ask Hoarder to go on and post his information based proof and his response is:






http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1439/38/1439386993542.png

How jewey is that?

:rolleyes:



Another "no answer" Palani style!
I feel for ya....frustrating to say the least

[hoarder]

So I ask Hoarder to go on and post his information based proof and his response is:






http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1439/38/1439386993542.png

How jewey is that?

:rolleyes:

Demanding and ignoring proof is pretty jewey, especially when "information based" proof is demanded, knowing full well that they dominate the source. Been through this with you Hitler admirers for years.

[mick silver]

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[mick silver]

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