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singular_me
4th June 2016, 09:24 AM
monetization itself is satanic/archonic as it corrupts nature's own zero sum game: that nobody can profit from nature's generosity.

I read somewhere that there are 3 times more animals being slaughtered than there are humans on this planet. Talk of a massive pagan bloody sacrifice. As a result, to make more profits, animals are being abused, kept on life support with antibiotics, etc... all this because humans cannot understand that eating 1lb of meat weekly is much healthier. Humans have a long intestine, which means that meat will begin to rot before being pushed out. Carnivores have short intestines because of that. The only valid argument against too much meat eating.
http://www.ask.com/science/carnivores-herbivores-longer-intestines-88f3352929160500

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Do you have enough money to kill a black rhino?
Sat Jun 4, 2016
‘If you are interested in helping to extinct an endangered species and have a couple of hundreds of thousand dollars, the Namibian government will sell you the ticket to kill some critically endangered rhinos

On Friday, the Namibian government called on trophy hunters to bid in an auction for killing three endangered black rhinos, with the environment ministry putting an advertisement for three black rhinos available for the hunting season, which ends in November.

The ad offered discounts to Namibian-owned companies or those with a Namibian−registered professional hunter.’
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/06/04/468798/Namibia-sell-license-kill-rhinos

http://217.218.67.233/photo/20160604/a33ae163-e84d-4a6a-bcfc-91ba3a50ee9a.jpg

Shami-Amourae
4th June 2016, 09:29 AM
If it weren't for the hunting industry, these animals would be extinct from African Poachers.

Most of the money spent on trophy hunting goes into wildlife preservation, and is the sole thing keeping many endangered species from being poached into extinction.

Neuro
5th June 2016, 02:16 PM
If it weren't for the hunting industry, these animals would be extinct from African Poachers.

Most of the money spent on trophy hunting goes into wildlife preservation, and is the sole thing keeping many endangered species from being poached into extinction.

I wonder why not people who are concerned with the preservation of the black Rhino's don't buy those hunting licences, and don't exercise their rights to kill a Rhino? The money as you say go to the preservation of them...

Hitch
5th June 2016, 03:42 PM
I wonder why not people who are concerned with the preservation of the black Rhino's don't buy those hunting licences, and don't exercise their rights to kill a Rhino? The money as you say go to the preservation of them...

Smart. Also, the Namibian government should issue licenses to hunt poachers.

singular_me
5th June 2016, 03:47 PM
I honestly think that killing animals in slaughter houses ,or on private farms, should be part of the education in the west. Not mandatory but strongly recommended.

I personally have helped process two elks in my life time and have more respect for the wildlife as a result.


Ivory for example was never seen as a luxury item in africa and meat was always consumed. It is the wall street and art dealers that began to speculate on it. (yeah, many will see the word jew here but the problem is why people from all cultures always fall into the money trap so easily?)

Shami-Amourae
5th June 2016, 03:48 PM
Smart. Also, the Namibian government should issue licenses to hunt poachers.

LOL. That would be fucking great.

Shami-Amourae
5th June 2016, 03:59 PM
I honestly think that killing animals should be part of the education in the west.


I fully agree.

I became a successful hunter a few weeks ago. I had my first kill and ate it, though it was pretty nasty (yellow-bellied marmot.) I went hunting before (quail/pheasant/cottontail) that but wasn't successful. I gutted it, skinned it, cured the hide, boiled the skull to bleach it to keep it as a trophy. I broke down the carcass and cooked it up like fried chicken.

I'm hopefully going to go for big game during this years hunting season.

I'm really getting into hunting now, and take it very seriously. Part of becoming a hunter was taking a hunter education course where I learned a lot about wildlife conservation and hunting. Basically to put things simply most wildlife conservation exists since of the hunting community. Leftist environmental activists don't do shit for the environment, other then blow hot air and drive up prices which benefits major corporations.

Anyways hunting really makes you value meat, and where it comes from. I'm convinced the only reason we have protected species and stable animal levels in the US is purely because of hunting.

My frustration is now I think all of hunting is a very good thing for preserving nature, but people are so misled thinking it's an evil practice. I found out most of the money that goes to protect wildlife in Idaho comes from hunters, since hunting is such a huge industry here.

woodman
5th June 2016, 05:00 PM
I fully agree.

I became a successful hunter a few weeks ago. I had my first kill and ate it, though it was pretty nasty (yellow-bellied marmot.) I went hunting before (quail/pheasant/cottontail) that but wasn't successful. I gutted it, skinned it, cured the hide, boiled the skull to bleach it to keep it as a trophy. I broke down the carcass and cooked it up like fried chicken.

I'm hopefully going to go for big game during this years hunting season.

I'm really getting into hunting now, and take it very seriously. Part of becoming a hunter was taking a hunter education course where I learned a lot about wildlife conservation and hunting. Basically to put things simply most wildlife conservation exists since of the hunting community. Leftist environmental activists don't do shit for the environment, other then blow hot air and drive up prices which benefits major corporations.

Anyways hunting really makes you value meat, and where it comes from. I'm convinced the only reason we have protected species and stable animal levels in the US is purely because of hunting.

My frustration is now I think all of hunting is a very good thing for preserving nature, but people are so misled thinking it's an evil practice. I found out most of the money that goes to protect wildlife in Idaho comes from hunters, since hunting is such a huge industry here.

I have a lot of respect for hunting. It is a part of what we are from way back. It should be done responsibly and the whole animal utilized. It's about respect. It helps put one in touch with reality. A lot of people I talk to seem to think that if everything goes to hell, they will still eat fine because there are plenty of deer and other animals around here and they know how to hunt. The fact is though, the animals would be gone very fast through over-exploitation. It was said in many areas after the depression that the way they knew the depression was truly over was because they finally started seeing rabbits and deer.

Oh, and I just wanted to say, this thread is racist. Why won't they ante up for a white rhino? Oh, wait, they are almost extinct.

Hitch
5th June 2016, 05:14 PM
Why won't they ante up for a white rhino? Oh, wait, they are almost extinct.

Actually hunting is what saved the white rhino. A quote from this article..

"Proof that hunting works can be seen in the success of South Africa’s white rhino populations, says Emslie.

“They started hunting in 1968 when there were 1,800 in the country. Now we are looking at 19,400.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-12-09/hunters-paying-150-000-to-kill-an-endangered-rhino-may-save-the-species

singular_me
5th June 2016, 05:19 PM
I agree... there are many hunters in my area, and I have nothing against them because they hunt for their own direct needs

but killing a rhino for 200K is an utterly absurd ego driven practice, just for the photo album. Near extinct species or not, I dont care.



I fully agree.

I became a successful hunter a few weeks ago. I had my first kill and ate it, though it was pretty nasty (yellow-bellied marmot.) I went hunting before (quail/pheasant/cottontail) that but wasn't successful. I gutted it, skinned it, cured the hide, boiled the skull to bleach it to keep it as a trophy. I broke down the carcass and cooked it up like fried chicken.

I'm hopefully going to go for big game during this years hunting season.

I'm really getting into hunting now, and take it very seriously. Part of becoming a hunter was taking a hunter education course where I learned a lot about wildlife conservation and hunting. Basically to put things simply most wildlife conservation exists since of the hunting community. Leftist environmental activists don't do shit for the environment, other then blow hot air and drive up prices which benefits major corporations.

Anyways hunting really makes you value meat, and where it comes from. I'm convinced the only reason we have protected species and stable animal levels in the US is purely because of hunting.

My frustration is now I think all of hunting is a very good thing for preserving nature, but people are so misled thinking it's an evil practice. I found out most of the money that goes to protect wildlife in Idaho comes from hunters, since hunting is such a huge industry here.

Hitch
5th June 2016, 05:32 PM
but killing a rhino for 200K is an utterly absurd ego driven practice, just for the photo album. Near extinct species or not, I dont care.

The 200K is just for the license, so the gov can properly manage the population.

The ego driven practice helps a lot of people, that's the fact. On top of the 200K, the hunter employs several local guides and trackers from the remote village he's hunting from. Then you have cooks, people hauling equipment, people taking care of lodging, travel, etc. All paid for, by the hunter.

Furthermore, an elephant hunt for example, all that meat stays local. The hunter literally feeds the whole village if he's successful. The village throws a huge party at the hunter's success. To them, he's a hero.

The only people who seem to hate these hunters, are liberals who have not done their research.

singular_me
5th June 2016, 05:38 PM
THE 200k sez it all. The evil lies in the small detail. All those african govs are so corrupt, the money will go straight in their pockets. such a speculation must hide a deception.

surely not a liberal because I am not against hunting.




The 200K is just for the license, so the gov can properly manage the population.

The ego driven practice helps a lot of people, that's the fact. On top of the 200K, the hunter employs several local guides and trackers from the remote village he's hunting from. Then you have cooks, people hauling equipment, people taking care of lodging, travel, etc. All paid for, by the hunter.

Furthermore, an elephant hunt for example, all that meat stays local. The hunter literally feeds the whole village if he's successful. The village throws a huge party at the hunter's success. To them, he's a hero.

The only people who seem to hate these hunters, are liberals who have not done their research.

EE_
5th June 2016, 05:48 PM
The 200K is just for the license, so the gov can properly manage the population.

The ego driven practice helps a lot of people, that's the fact. On top of the 200K, the hunter employs several local guides and trackers from the remote village he's hunting from. Then you have cooks, people hauling equipment, people taking care of lodging, travel, etc. All paid for, by the hunter.

Furthermore, an elephant hunt for example, all that meat stays local. The hunter literally feeds the whole village if he's successful. The village throws a huge party at the hunter's success. To them, he's a hero.

The only people who seem to hate these hunters, are liberals who have not done their research.

If the hunter cares so much about managing the rhino population and employing/feeding the village, why doesn't he just donate the money to the Namibian government? Does killing one Rhino have anything to do with managing their population?

One thing that doesn't sit well with me in hunting, everyone that hunts wants to kill the very best of any species. I guess it's no different with humans...all through history, the best and strongest men were always sent to die in battle. Look at what's left in our population...not good.

Shami-Amourae
5th June 2016, 05:53 PM
If the hunter cares so much about managing the rhino population and employing/feeding the village, why doesn't he just donate the money to the Namibian government? Does killing one Rhino have anything to do with managing their population?

There will be fenced off areas/private land where these animals are protected from poachers. The hunters who pay basically get a controlled hunt. This protected area is funded by the high fees, and it allows endangered species to rebound. If it weren't for this super expensive trophy hunting, many of these endangered species would be extinct.

EE_
5th June 2016, 05:58 PM
There will be fenced off areas/private land where these animals are protected from poachers. The hunters who pay basically get a controlled hunt. This protected area is funded by the high fees, and it allows endangered species to rebound. If it weren't for this super expensive trophy hunting, many of these endangered species would be extinct.

So the trophy hunter doesn't really care squat about all that nonsense of management of the endangered species, just the kill and the picture to show friends. Got it!

Hitch
5th June 2016, 05:59 PM
If the hunter cares so much about managing the rhino population and employing/feeding the village, why doesn't he just donate the money to the Namibian government? Does killing one Rhino have anything to do with managing their population?

One thing that doesn't sit well with me in hunting, everyone that hunts wants to kill the very best of any species. I guess it's no different with humans...all through history, the best and strongest men were always sent to die in battle. Look at what's left in our population...not good.

EE, I agree with you. The hunter only cares about himself mostly, the bragging rights of killing dangerous game, the ego boost, etc.

But, a lot of people benefit from that ego boost. The gov gets funds to hopefully do what they say they will do. Local villagers get employed, get fed on being successful. People do benefit.

Lions, for example. They have no predators, except hunters. If they are not hunted, their population will grow to the point where they could kill all the wildebeests, all the gazelles, etc, then local villagers. Animals will go extinct with out hunting. BTW, it's said you don't hunt lion, they hunt you and you live be defending yourself.

Shami-Amourae
5th June 2016, 06:00 PM
So the trophy hunter doesn't really care squat about all that nonsense of management of the endangered species, just the kill and the picture to show friends. Got it!
Example:

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1464/95/1464958139642.png
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1464/96/1464960168619.jpg

>Old animal
>cant breed it any more
>its gonna die soon
>need money to save other animals in park
>Hunter pays part a literal fortune to hunt it
>Meat goes to local niggers
>Hunter gets trophy
>Park gets to save more animals

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1464/95/1464958875686.png

Threadly reminder big game hunters are the ones financing all animal protection projects in Africa.

Threadly reminder the white man is the one hunting poachers to avoid animal slaughter and the one who trains the inferior black man militias.

God Bless all the vets and operators that join these manhunting organizations and keep the hood safe.

singular_me
5th June 2016, 06:05 PM
the incentive of population management is a moot point... it is well known that when a species overpopulated an area, a disease (or a calamity such as a drought) occurs to address that. Nature has her ways to deal with it and remain balanced..

(scenario not valid for humans)



If the hunter cares so much about managing the rhino population and employing/feeding the village, why doesn't he just donate the money to the Namibian government? Does killing one Rhino have anything to do with managing their population?

One thing that doesn't sit well with me in hunting, everyone that hunts wants to kill the very best of any species. I guess it's no different with humans...all through history, the best and strongest men were always sent to die in battle. Look at what's left in our population...not good.

EE_
5th June 2016, 06:09 PM
the incentive of population management is a moot point... it is well known that when a species overpopulated an area, a disease (or a calamity such as a drought) occurs to address that. Nature has her ways to deal with it and remain balanced..

(scenario not valid for humans)

As long as that species doesn't overpopulate areas that humans inhabit. Then we must manage them.

Shami-Amourae
5th June 2016, 06:12 PM
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1463/64/1463642222946.jpg

>tfw no sweet blonde qt3.14 to cuddle inside your hunting trophy with

why even live

Shami-Amourae
5th June 2016, 06:20 PM
So the trophy hunter doesn't really care squat about all that nonsense of management of the endangered species, just the kill and the picture to show friends. Got it!

MUST WATCH

In all seriousness watch this. It explains how the industry works and why it's a good thing from my interpretation. The documentary is unbiased, like most of (((Louis Theroux's))) documentaries, so you may have a different take.

Important Highlight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVTmt1pa7xI


There's a full episode of this too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvWxyfipCOc

EE_
5th June 2016, 06:33 PM
MUST WATCH

In all seriousness watch this. It explains how the industry works and why it's a good thing from my interpretation. The documentary is unbiased, like most of (((Louis Theroux's))) documentaries, so you may have a different take.

Important Highlight:


Since it's put as an industry, kill away! I wish there was that kind of industry for liberals and illegal's.
Another question comes to mind...are we messing with the natural order of things in nature? Maybe these animals are supposed to go extinct?

Hitch
5th June 2016, 06:43 PM
Since it's put as an industry, kill away! I wish there was that kind of industry for liberals and illegal's.
Another question comes to mind...are we messing with the natural order of things in nature? Maybe these animals are supposed to go extinct?

Good questions.

It's like feminism, EE. The feminists hate men, yet it takes both men and women to repopulate the species, or else we go extinct. They hate hunters, but hunters keep other populations from going extinct.

I'm a big fan of "just see what happens". Naturally, it will all work out. If the liberals think prisons are racist, well, let's just let the prisoners all out and "see what happens". If black lives matter folks hate cops, let's remove cops from their neighborhoods and "see what happens".

The solution is really to just give what insane people want and ask for.

EE_
5th June 2016, 06:50 PM
Good questions.

It's like feminism, EE. The feminists hate men, yet it takes both men and women to repopulate the species, or else we go extinct. They hate hunters, but hunters keep other populations from going extinct.

I'm a big fan of "just see what happens". Naturally, it will all work out. If the liberals think prisons are racist, well, let's just let the prisoners all out and "see what happens". If black lives matter folks hate cops, let's remove cops from their neighborhoods and "see what happens".

The solution is really to just give what insane people want and ask for.

I've always said, if you leave a problem alone long enough, it will fix itself.

EE_
5th June 2016, 07:07 PM
Should I post this here? It kind of falls under 'species management'...

‘Screw for Denmark’ sex campaigns produce baby boom in months
Published time: 5 Jun, 2016 18:37

A racy ad campaign, started only nine months ago, has really hit the spot for Denmark's campaign for more baby-making. The country now expects booming birth rates this summer.
According to research by Denmark’s Politiken newspaper, the summer months of June-August this year will produce 1,200 more Danes than last summer. In total, some 16,200 babies are due to be born.

“I’ve never experienced a boom like this in my time as a midwife,” said Ann Fogsgaard, who’s been on the job 33 years.

“Normally, there are more births during the summer compared to the winter, but an increase like this is crazy.”

It all started with cute appeals by Spies Travel to “give the world more babies” and “Do it for mom!” – which gave quite good data on how people tend to get groovier during a seaside vacation, as opposed to an alpine hike. The sad Danish grandmother who anxiously unhooks her own daughter’s bra as she’s about to get down with her boyfriend is made happy. Even the stereotypical, creepy introverted online gamer guy gets some at the end.

Do it for Denmark! Low birthrate kicks campaign urging Danes to have more sex
After the guilt-card ad, the capital emerged with its own campaign. The City of Copenhagen took a mildly more serious approach, saying you won’t be fertile forever. And the broadcaster DR hopped aboard the baby-making wagon with the aptly-named “Screw for Denmark” (Knald for Danmark) campaign.

“You probably can’t ascribe the increase in births to our campaign, but it’s definitely a feather in our cap if the campaign has had a positive effect,” Copenhagen’s deputy mayor for health, Ninna Thomsen, told TV2 News, adding that she was actually surprised to begin with that so many campaigns for procreation emerged at once.

Denmark is one of those societies where people like to have fun and really enjoy life – the problem is they like to have kids late in life, too, according to the campaigns.

But the efforts are paying off. Danes will have an average 14 percent more in offspring this summer than last, according to Cphpost, and according to Danmarks Statistic – the official national statistics bureau – 1,000 more babies were born in the first quarter of this year compared to the same period in 2015.

The annual birth rate could top 60,000 for the first time in six years, if the Danes continue feeling frisky. The latest bad year for Denmark was 2013, with 4,000 less births than that, which is the lowest figure since 1987.

Things were a flop since 2010, when the average age for a first-time parent was 29.1, a full five years more than the 1970 average.

The ad campaigns join a host of other groovy measures to get things on track, such as introducing changes to the school sex-ed curriculum, as well as somehow coercing parents into pledging to have more sex so that there are enough children to fill schools.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrO3TfJc9Qw

Some success was achieved in Jutland, with pregnancies up by a whole third in 2015, according to a local hospital cited by The Local. It was a shock to residents when public officials said they were considering backing out of the measure. This was in the midst of an increasing number of asylum seekers arriving to the area.

https://www.rt.com/news/345499-denmark-baby-boom-sex/

Hitch
5th June 2016, 07:10 PM
I've always said, if you leave a problem alone long enough, it will fix itself.

I would love to hear a police chief say "We have listened to the complaints and hatred from the public about cops. We will no longer patrol the city. If you need assistance, call 911. By calling 911, you no longer have any reason to complain about us, and we will show up with superior firepower and take control of the situation. If you don't want that, don't call 911. We will be taking it easy, and drinking coffee in the break room from now on."

EE_
5th June 2016, 08:21 PM
I would love to hear a police chief say "We have listened to the complaints and hatred from the public about cops. We will no longer patrol the city. If you need assistance, call 911. By calling 911, you no longer have any reason to complain about us, and we will show up with superior firepower and take control of the situation. If you don't want that, don't call 911. We will be pumping iron, using steroids and drinking protein drinks in the gym from now on."
............

Hitch
5th June 2016, 08:35 PM
............

Actually the opposite is true. While the public likes to think they are eating donuts. They are not.

http://proteinfart.com/cops-steroids-testosterone-growth-hormone-law-enforcement/

EE_
5th June 2016, 08:46 PM
edit....


Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
I would love to hear a police chief say "We have listened to the complaints and hatred from the public about cops. We will no longer patrol the city. If you need assistance, call 911. By calling 911, you no longer have any reason to complain about us, and we will show up with superior firepower and take control of the situation. If you don't want that, don't call 911. We will be pumping iron, using steroids and drinking protein drinks in the gym from now on."

Neuro
6th June 2016, 02:05 AM
Some success was achieved in Jutland, with pregnancies up by a whole third in 2015, according to a local hospital cited by The Local. It was a shock to residents when public officials said they were considering backing out of the measure. This was in the midst of an increasing number of asylum seekers arriving to the area.
How about that. Denmark has a campaign to encourage Danes to have more babies. Miraculously a bunch of Africans and Arabs appear, and the birth numbers increase. Denmark will be filled up, just not with Danes...

singular_me
6th June 2016, 07:54 AM
Another question comes to mind...are we messing with the natural order of things in nature? Maybe these animals are supposed to go extinct?

the NWO thinks this way about us... as above so below... this is the 2nd most important natural law.
Respect Nature, quit monetizing her, and you address the "all seeing eye pyramid" by the same token. As long as the NWO can induce hypercconsumerism and fights between people, we ask the NWO to wage war on us, physically and economically.

Believe or not in ETs, if we dont change our mindset, we'll get cannibalistic and parasitic ETs to deal with.... the Principle of Correspondence always wins over.

We are in this mess because the majority ignore the 7 immutable cosmic laws at play. There is no such a thing as the sky is the limit in term of speculation.

Today the meat industry wants us to believe that eating 1lb/day of meat is ok... as a result animal suffering has reached an all time high. And so is which of humans.

200K to kill a rhino... LOL. Have your license to kill... and kill yourself (along with your beloved ones) by the same token.

this is a mind/psychic/spiritual battle raging and nothing else
https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/download-2-2.png

singular_me
6th June 2016, 10:29 AM
what is the value of a lion? That's just a commodity... just as we are!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40W_hc_q8XU

managing nature... managing the climate... managing the economy

how did the wildlife manage, say 3000 years ago, when the number of humans was very low? big money into the hunting business just encourages (elite) corruption, as usual.

managing world populations soon around the corner

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But many conservationists say that without trophy hunting there would be no lions at all.

“The land would be used for farming and this would accelerate the loss of wildlife. We don’t like trophy hunting but it slows the rapid decline of populations. It is a necessary evil,” said Guy Balme, director of the leopard programme in Africa for US-based conservation group Panthera.

“Lions are grossly over-hunted in Zimbabwe concessions, lured out of national parks and there is corruption. Quotas are exceeded. It is highly unsustainable,” said a spokesman for Lion Aid, following the illegal killing of a 12-year-old lion known as Cecil who was lured out of Hwange national park by an American hunter.

The theory is that when hunting is well managed, the jobs and money generated give local people an incentive to suppress poaching and keep animals alive. “Unfortunately the benefits do not always go to people on the ground,” said Balme.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/29/trophy-hunting-just-part-story-behind-declining-lion-numbers-africa