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EE_
5th June 2016, 06:00 PM
Alberto R. Gonzales: Trump has a right to ask if Judge Gonzalo Curiel is fair

If judges aren't seen as impartial, the public will lose faith in the rule of law.

By Alberto R. Gonzales June 4

Alberto R. Gonzales served as White House counsel and U.S. attorney general in the George W. Bush administration. He is the dean and Doyle Rogers Distinguished Professor of law at Belmont University College of Law in Nashville, Tenn.
Trump: Judge on Trump University case 'has been very unfair'

Donald Trump suggested this week that U.S. District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel can’t give him a fair hearing. Curiel, who is presiding over a class-action suit against Trump over his former for-profit educational company, Trump University, is a U.S. citizen, born in Indiana to Mexican immigrants. “I’m building a wall” on the U.S.-Mexico border if elected, the presumptive Republican nominee for president told the Wall Street Journal on Thursday. “It’s an inherent conflict of interest.” Earlier in the week, he told a crowd at a rally in San Diego that Curiel was “a hater of Donald Trump, a hater.”

As a private citizen, Trump has a right to his opinions, regardless of whether others agree with them, or whether others consider them wise, foolish or even dangerous. Trump, of course, is more than a private citizen; as the likely nominee for president of a major political party, he speaks with a voice that carries much weight and, if successful in November, will influence millions of people. Because of this, some commentators have condemned Trump’s suggestion that Curiel step down from the case. These voices have, quite rightly, emphasized the importance of upholding our independent judiciary from baseless attacks by high-level persons from other branches of government.

An independent judiciary is extremely important. But that value is not the only one in play here. Equally important, if not more important from my perspective as a former judge and U.S. attorney general, is a litigant’s right to a fair trial. The protection of that right is a primary reason why our Constitution provides for an independent judiciary. If judges and the trials over which they preside are not perceived as being impartial, the public will quickly lose confidence in the rule of law upon which our nation is based. For this reason, ethics codes for judges — including the federal code of conduct governing Curiel — require not only that judges actually be impartial, but that they avoid even the “appearance of impropriety.” That appearance typically is measured from the standpoint of a reasonable litigant.

It is crucial to understand the real issue in this matter. I am not judging whether Curiel is actually biased against Trump. Only he knows the answer to that question. I am not saying that I would be concerned about him presiding over a case in which I was a litigant. And if I were a litigant who was concerned about the judge’s impartiality, I certainly would not deal with it in a public manner as Trump has, because it demeans the integrity of the judicial office and thus potentially undermines the independence of the judiciary, especially coming from a man who could be president by this time next year. But none of these issues is the test. The test is whether there is an “appearance of impropriety” under the facts as they reasonably appear to a litigant in Trump’s position.

Certainly, Curiel’s Mexican heritage alone would not be enough to raise a question of bias (for all we know, the judge supports Trump’s pledge to better secure our borders and enforce the rule of law). As someone whose own ancestors came to the United States from Mexico, I know ethnicity alone cannot pose a conflict of interest.

But there may be other factors to consider in determining whether Trump’s concerns about getting an impartial trial are reasonable. Curiel is, reportedly, a member of a group called La Raza Lawyers of San Diego. Trump’s aides, meanwhile, have indicated that they believe Curiel is a member of the National Council of La Raza, a vocal advocacy organization that has vigorously condemned Trump and his views on immigration. The two groups are unaffiliated, and Curiel is not a member of NCLR. But Trump may be concerned that the lawyers’ association or its members represent or support the other advocacy organization. Coupled with that question is the fact that in 2014, when he certified the class-action lawsuit against Trump, Curiel appointed the Robbins Geller law firm to represent plaintiffs. Robbins Geller has paid $675,000 in speaking fees since 2009 to Trump’s likely opponent, Hillary Clinton, and to her husband, former president Bill Clinton. Curiel appointed the firm in the case before Trump entered the presidential race, but again, it might not be unreasonable for a defendant in Trump’s position to wonder who Curiel favors in the presidential election. These circumstances, while not necessarily conclusive, at least raise a legitimate question to be considered. Regardless of the way Trump has gone about raising his concerns over whether he’s getting a fair trial, none of us should dismiss those concerns out of hand without carefully examining how a defendant in his position might perceive them — and we certainly should not dismiss them for partisan political reasons.

Finally, some have said that Trump’s criticism of the judge reflects on his qualifications to be president. If the criticism is solely based on Curiel’s race, that is something voters will take into account in deciding whether he is fit to be president. If, however, Trump is acting from a sincere motivation to protect his constitutional right to a fair trial, his willingness to exercise his rights as an American citizen and raising the issue even in the face of severe criticism is surely also something for voters to consider.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/04/alberto-r-gonzales-trump-has-a-right-to-question-whether-hes-getting-a-fair-trial/

Neuro
6th June 2016, 04:31 AM
for all we know, the judge supports Trump’s pledge to better secure our borders and enforce the rule of law
Does he? Where did he say that?

cheka.
6th June 2016, 08:06 AM
so the police chief in cali that had his cops stand down and let trump supporters get attacked is la raza......and this judge is a grand dragon of la raza

what's the problem? you're not rayciss are u

EE_
6th June 2016, 08:31 AM
so the police chief in cali that had his cops stand down and let trump supporters get attacked is la raza......and this judge is a grand dragon of la raza

what's the problem? you're not rayciss are u

The problem is most people don't know what La Raza stands for. The media is too afraid to explain it, or doesn't want to.
Just like the liberal media praising the radical extreme racist Muhammad Ali while calling Trump a racist.
note: I commend Ali for being so vocal a racist and I take nothing away from his character, just leave my racist beliefs alone!

Radical ‘Reconquista’ Agenda

Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

MEChA isn’t at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in “El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan” (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

“In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”

MEChA was in fact reported to be one of the main organizers of those street demonstrations we witnessed over the past weeks. That helps explain why those hordes of illegal immigrants weren’t asking for amnesty — they were demanding an end to U.S. law, period. Unlike past waves of immigrants who sought to become responsible members of American society, these protesters reject American society altogether, because they have been taught that America rightfully belongs to them.

MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as “Aztlan” — a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to “La Raza” once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.

This plan is what is referred to as the “Reconquista” or reconquest, of the Western U.S.

But it won’t end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of “Aztlan.”

As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled — opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.”

http://humanevents.com/2006/04/07/em...about-la-raza/

cheka.
7th June 2016, 12:46 PM
funny....several days ago i dug into the surname and posted it here on another thread

now this

http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamericayouprobablycantseethisac3.html

Ok, this evolved a lot today. First I only wanted to track down the fact that Curiel's parents lived in a Jewish community in America. Then Google, once it figured out what I was doing, took Curiel's childhood house and threw it 20 miles north from where it really was and from where it originally showed right in the middle of all the Kosher shops. So I had to ditch that, because Google was not going to play honest. Low and behold, that forced me to dig deeper and as a result I found his prior history.

Curiel is a Sephardic Jewish Marron. His ancestors caused problems in Portugal, and eventually got thrown out of the entire area around the time of Columbus. !! THEY THEN SETTLED IN JAMAICA, WHERE OUT OF KINGSTON THEY RAN THE "PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN" PLOT !! (fancy Disney ever being honest with that little tidbit) until there were no more Spanish galleons filled with their own pirated Aztec gold to be robbed. Obviously it all eventually splintered and perhaps the generation marking his great grandpa settled in Mexico. They then came to America, where his dad lived as an illegal alien up until his death in 1974.

Well, it probably does not matter that his ancestors were pirates other than the fact that proves he is Jewish. WHAT DOES MATTER IS THE FACT THAT HE IS NOT ONLY A KKKIKE, his OWN DAD was an illegal who worked illegally in the U.S. until he died. It is foggy about whether or not his mom was ever legal, but that does not matter anymore because 1. He is a Latino and 2. he is a jew and 3. he is working a lawsuit against a presidential candidate who wants to kick Latinos out of the country all the while the Jews want to keep latinos here. See a conflict of interest there? Never mind the seedy ancestry, which alone should say it all!

REMEMBER: 16th century began in 1501 and ended in 1600. Here it is: The judge presiding over the prosecution of Trump is a sephardic Jew who's ancestors were kicked out of Portugal at around the time of Columbus.

Judge Curiel's ancestors were kicked out of Portugal, and settled in Kingston Jamaica where they ran a massive pirate outfit, and Curiel's family eventually ended up in Mexico after that fell apart. THAT IS THE HISTORY, the fact Google censored where he lived in Chicago is NOW MEANINGLESS.
When you look into his background his parents were not U.S. citizens, they came from Mexico, both were Jewish, and he was an anchor baby. "La Raza" Gonzalo Curiel is a Latino Jewish judge. It may be difficult to pin him as Jewish (he probably is a crypto Jew) but I never checked to see if he openly admits it.
The question is, if a lawsuit is legitimate, how does the judge end up being hispanic, which hates Trump, and Jewish (the entire group also predominantly hates Trump) - this is obviously a trumped up lawsuit which will be presided over by a judge who at best definitely was an anchor baby. Forget about whether or not he can even legitimately be a judge, with his parents being Jewish that won't matter. If there ever was proof this lawsuit is entirely fake and politically motivated JUST LOOK AT THE JUDGE. Forget about him being affiliated with La Raza (another reason to disqualify him) just look at his parent's history and the fact he is Jewish. That ought to say it all.

But you won't ever hear jack squat about this in the MSM, and IT WILL NOT MATTER. WANT TO KNOW WHY? Because the public is waking up to the Jewish shenanegans, and any Trump supporter will clearly see this for what it is. Additionally, Trump University had a high approval rating, and what I have seen "come out against" the university is lacking substance. The only way such a lawsuit would ever succeed is with a scam judge and a jury packed entirely by latinos and others who have been cherry picked, and they will be. Look for the jury to be 100 percent crypto Jew as well.

And even if Trump gets his butt kicked in a frame up, he won't be going to jail, he'll just have to pay out 40 million, which he has. So what?

But there is a problem, and it is this: During all the media play, the Jewish media will be stating that the public support for Trump is waning, even when it is not. And come election time, they will say the public turned against Trump, and then they will squeak hillary in by handing her 100 million "diebold votes" all the while she gets ZERO in New Hampshire. They will wipe out 51 percent of Trump's votes, and transfer them to Hillary. The "victory" will be by a hair, and Hillary will receive her appointment, delivered straight by scamming KKKIKEDOM.