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midnight rambler
13th June 2016, 07:46 PM
Crisis actors...?

http://www.tomatobubble.com/id1018.html

Dogman
13th June 2016, 07:47 PM
Us post-materialists realize that what we perceive as *reality* is a result of each of our own constructs that each of us is responsible for the creation of. Dogman it appears YOUR *reality* is all fucked up and YOU are the one in denial. Own it. Take responsibility for it.



You're projecting. You're the small insignificant insect, and you hate that.Komrad.

What ever you want to think,, is good with me. because your thought will make no difference that a guy I knew that tried to piss up wind.. Blow back is a bitch..

Again karma in time I hope will take care of you..

For me I can and do not give a flying shit, my major wishes are that I wake up the next day because in 66 years on this earth that I have walked things are finally getting interesting. So if I wake up the next day....WOW..Fooled them out of a nother one..

So sing your song komrad, because I really do not give a flying fuck, about how you or some others here think..

Enjoy your life..

midnight rambler
13th June 2016, 07:50 PM
Former classmate says shooter was closeted gay, asked him out 'romantically' -

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/

midnight rambler
13th June 2016, 07:51 PM
Again karma in time I hope will take care of you..

Might want to check your bitterness, it's showing.

Dogman
13th June 2016, 08:02 PM
Hell I am a saint compared to what you spew..

And overall I know I am mostly right overall..

Be proud that you and others hold the minority vies, and have to reach and invent your own reality to justify your stances. History (real, not some here want to re wright) is on my side..

But the way my health is , never fear, but while I walk this earth, I will bust your ass now and then , but not all the time, because I do have in a small way a life other than this forum small that it is..

I do get a hoot out of your posts and especially from the nationalist here, trying to make a difference in the echo chamber here in many ways.

Sukufan (know I got your old name wrong, but dam it can not remember the righ one..)

;D

vacuum
13th June 2016, 08:38 PM
Former classmate says shooter was closeted gay, asked him out 'romantically' -

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/


Chris Callen recalled the eventual killer being escorted drunk from the Pulse bar on multiple occasions, including one incident where he pointed a knife at a friend. Said Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”

Mateen’s father emphatically told The Post Monday that his son was not gay.



You can't make this shit up.

vacuum
13th June 2016, 08:46 PM
Former classmate says shooter was closeted gay, asked him out 'romantically' -

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/


Chris Callen recalled the eventual killer being escorted drunk from the Pulse bar on multiple occasions, including one incident where he pointed a knife at a friend. Said Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”

Mateen’s father emphatically told The Post Monday that his son was not gay.

“If he was gay, why would he do something like this?” Seddique Mateen asked.


You can't make this shit up.

Also keep in mind that in Afghanistan they really like young boys dressed up as women and dancing for men's entertainment. But they don't consider that to be "gay".



Afghanistan's dirty little secret

By Joel Brinkley (http://www.sfgate.com/author/joel-brinkley/)
Published 4:00 am, Sunday, August 29, 2010

Photo: Yuri Cortez, AFP/Getty Images

Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli (http://www.sfgate.com/search/?action=search&channel=opinion%2Fbrinkley&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22AnnaMaria+Cardinalli%22) told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department (http://www.sfgate.com/search/?action=search&channel=opinion%2Fbrinkley&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22Defense+Department%22) hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.

For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."

Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.

President Hamid Karzai (http://www.sfgate.com/search/?action=search&channel=opinion%2Fbrinkley&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22Hamid+Karzai%22) is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.

As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."

He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.

In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."

So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?

Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.

"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud (http://www.sfgate.com/search/?action=search&channel=opinion%2Fbrinkley&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22Mohammed+Daud%22) told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."

Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"

That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.

Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.

But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.

"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."

As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."

© 2010 Joel Brinkley (http://www.sfgate.com/search/?action=search&channel=opinion%2Fbrinkley&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22Joel+Brinkley%22)

Glass
13th June 2016, 08:49 PM
You can't make this shit up.


So thats another 3. Going to the bar for at least 3 years.

And
Chris Callen. I've noticed a lot of people using this surname: McLaughlin. Not in this specific event BUT when they go under another more anglosax style name, this one comes up a lot. Sometimes slight spelling variations.

EE_
14th June 2016, 03:05 AM
This is highly related. Must watch if you haven't listened to it already.

Basically it goes over the "bug chasers" community where gay people try to get another infected with AIDs/HIV. This is why people don't why gays to donate blood and why HIV/AID is so common with gays.


It's disgusting how the media...even Trump, praises these despicable vial demented sick group of creatures, because they fear they will be attacked by them.
I hear these sexual deviants being referred to as wonderful people, instead of calling them what they are, very sick, a scourge of society.
Because of their acceptance, society has become very sick.

One day God is going to cleanse the planet, I'm not sure it will be soon enough.

midnight rambler
14th June 2016, 05:50 AM
Ex-wife says shooter had gay tendencies, was told by FBI not to share this insightful detail with the media -

http://nypost.com/2016/06/13/shooter-used-to-visit-orlando-gay-club-use-gay-dating-apps/

cheka.
14th June 2016, 10:06 AM
another wife, kid....and expensive trips to saudi arabia (on security guard wages?)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-14/meet-noor-zahi-salman-orlando-shooters-mysterious-second-wife-knew-his-plans-may-be-

While over the past few days, the media has been ignoring Noor Zahi Salman, the now widow of Muslim terrorist Omar Mateen and instead focusing on his first wife who has accused him of beating her, being bipolar, and generally acting deranged and sociopathic. Like in the San Bernardino terrorist case, Noor Zahi Salman and Mateen had a young child together.

Now attention is slowly shifting on Noor.

According to NBC news, Orlando gunman Omar Mateen's current wife, Noor Salman, has told the FBI that she drove Mateen to the Pulse nightclub on a prior occasion and that she tried to talk him out of conducting any kind of attack, officials told NBC News. As NBC adds, law enforcement officials said authorities are considering filing criminal charges against her for failing to tell them what she knew before the attack, but no decision has been made yet.

Several officials familiar with what she has told the FBI said she was with him when he bought ammunition and a holster. She also once drove him to the nightclub because he wanted to see it in advance, but that she tried to dissuade him from doing anything, the officials said.

NBC also quotes officials according to whom she is cooperating with the investigation.

Some more details on Noor from her public records:

In 2013 Omar Mateen married Noor Zahi Salman (pictured below). They have a 3-year-old son together.



Noor Zahi Salman, age 30, has scrubbed her social media history:

Omar Mateen lived in St. Lucie County, Florida, with his second wife, Noor Zahi Salman, but it is not clear if they were together or separated at the time of the shooting. Mateen sold his sister, Mariam Seddique, the house in April ’16 for $10 (Quit Claim Deed).

Needless to say, this is a confusing situation for a person who was alleged to be gay by his far more media friendly ex-wife.

Furthermore, this is how the WaPo tried to portray the relationship between Mateen and Noor last night: "Mateen later had a son with another woman who also appears to have left him and declined to comment when reached at her current home."

As a reminder, as the WSJ reported yesterday according to a spokesman for Saudi Arabia’s interior ministry, the Orlando shooter, Omar Mateen visited the kingdom twice on pilgrimage. Mateen visited Saudi Arabia in 2011 and again in 2012 to perform umrah, a religious pilgrimage to the holy city of Mecca. The trips lasted eight and 10 days each. U.S. and Saudi officials aren’t sure yet who Mr. Mateen met with during his visits or whether the trips were connected to the shooting.

It remains to be seen if his second wife was linked in any way to these "religious pilgrimages." It also remains to be revealed if, contrary to numerous eyewitness reports, Mateen was in fact not the "lone wolf" the authorities are trying to make him appear to be.

cheka.
14th June 2016, 10:14 AM
wife's surname

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Salman

Last name: Salman

This intriguing and unusual name is of early medieval English origin, and derives from the Middle English and Old French given name "Salmon" or "Saumon", a contracted form of Salomon. The ultimate origin of the personal name is from the Hebrew male given name "Shelomo", a derivative of "shalom", peace.

The modern English surname has many variants, ranging from Salamon, Salaman and Salomon to Salmon, Salman and Salmen.

collector
14th June 2016, 10:21 AM
The plot thickens !!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfufT0F-4_A

Horn
14th June 2016, 03:00 PM
Former classmate says shooter was closeted gay, asked him out 'romantically' -

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/

is this stuff making it into the msm? cant tell from here.

monty
14th June 2016, 04:26 PM
Media Refusing to Cover Numerous Witness Accounts of Multiple Shooters in Orlando Massacre

As mainstream media headlines begin to solidify around the narrative a single shooter was responsible for the carnage at Pulse nightclub in Orlando on Sunday, details calling the now-official story into question must be addressed.


While no doubts can be raised Omar Mateen, indeed, played a role in the attack, eyewitness accounts — while varied and certainly subjective, considering the chaos unfolding at the time — don’t unanimously agree he acted alone.

“I mean, I’m pretty sure it was more than one person,” witness Janiel Gonzalez told a bevy of reporters. “Like I said, I heard two guns going off at the same time,” he continued (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/videos/news/video-witness-describes-orlando-shooting/vDqrY8/?ref=cbTopWidget), gesturing back and forth with his fingers indicating the gunfire emanated from separate directions.

Further, he explained, panicked clubgoers had difficulty locating exits during the shooting, which he estimated lasting eight minutes — plenty of time for the shooter(s) to reload multiple times. When Gonzalez and others finally found a door hidden behind a curtain,

“There was probably like 50 people trying to jump over each other just trying to exit the place, and there was a guy holding the door. The guy was holding the door and not letting us exit.”

When they asked why he was blocking their only way out — as the shooting seemed to be drawing near — Gonzalez said the man told them, “No, you guys have to stay inside. Stay inside.”

Desperate, the group demanded he move to give them safe passage — but the man’s steadfast refusal to do so provoked a serious question.


As Gonzalez explained, the fact there was a semi-automatic rifle, and not a handgun, employed in the shooting, he realized this must be a hate crime — and then he “put two and two together, and I was like, this guy’s trying to prevent us from leaving the club. Maybe they’re working together.”


Fox News’ Megyn Kelly actually interviewed the man, Luis Burbano, who admitted to blocking the exit, asking (http://video.foxnews.com/v/4937892415001/orlando-club-goer-saw-domino-effect-of-people-going-down/?#sp=show-clips), “You were holding the doors so that the shooter could not get out, but was there any concern that, you know, you might be keeping the people fleeing the shooter from getting out?”

“Yeah, um … yeah. That was on my mind. There was banging, there was pushing on the door. That was on my mind; but at that point in time, I just tried doing what I thought would be best at that moment,” because, as he explained, the door opened into an alleyway which was extremely narrow and would have created a juggernaut. Burbano also worried he might be opening the door to the shooter, so felt by holding it shut, he would prevent the attacker’s escape.

So, while Burbano’s actions were perhaps motivated by ‘doing the right thing,’ he directly endangered the lives of others trapped inside. Was he working in concert with the attacker or attackers? Probably not. Should he face consequences for blocking one of the only safe means for people to escape an active shooter? Without a doubt.

As for the description possibly more than one shooter had been involved, Gonzalez actually wasn’t alone.


A second witness described in an interview aired on the Today Show, “It had to have been more than one person, too, because [the gunfire] was just too continuous … It’s like you’re at a gun range and all you hear is just, BOOM, bang, bang … I can’t even describe it.”

In footage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A23fqxJEHE0) captured by multiple witnesses outside the club, police appear to be engaging in an exchange of gunfire with an unknown subject. Mateen, however, was killed inside the club, according to most accounts.

“They’re shooting back and forth,” the person taping video can be heard saying over a volley of gunfire in the background. “Oh. My. God. They’re all shooting back and forth.”


http://youtu.be/A23fqxJEHE0
Could this also lend credence to accounts of multiple attackers?

Yet another eyewitness to the massacre has come forward to describe the events (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/13/orlando-shooting-victim-recalls-killers-behavior-statements-during-nightclub-massacre/) for ABC News’ 20/20 — and his detailed account could be critical. After Mateen collected the hostages’ phones, according to the witness, he called either law enforcement or a news station and said, “America needs to stop bombing ISIS … in Syria.”

“Then he called somebody else that he knew,” the man recalled, “and he mentioned that he was the fourth shooter, and there was [sic] three others, and mentioned, I believe a female name, that was playing dead and she has a bombing vest and he has one, too. And then he said there was three snipers out there waiting for cops to come so the snipers would shoot at the cops.”
And even another witness to the events has described the situation as one of multiple shooters. Noting the sheer number of gun shots ringing out, the witness was asked by Infowars, “So, you believe there was more than one gunman there?”

“I believe that,” the young man replied, “because that’s kind of impossible, to me, for one person with two handguns firing off.” He also described seeing Mateen’s picture on social media, and said the suspect central to the investigation did not appear to have the physical build to employ the two weapons necessary to account for the barrage of gunfire he heard.
“He couldn’t manage to fire off two guns,” he surmised.


http://youtu.be/SS2zMpYepJU

Decide for yourself, as always, what such accounts — which contradict the now-uniform mainstream narrative — might mean.


But remember, as well, questioning what you’re being spoon fed by the government and corporate media is in no way disrespectful of the victims. Rather, it is out of respect for the dead and injured that appropriate parties be held accountable — and factual accuracy is imperative in order that justice be served appropriately.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/media-censoring-multiple-shooter-orlando/

Cebu_4_2
14th June 2016, 05:11 PM
The "shooting" happened after the club closed. The actors took the fake victims the wrong way. There were no amberlanses. There were no dead people. There were no dead people in the club or injured people outside the club except the 'victims' being carried towards the club.

This is how stupid the white people are in this country, they believe the MSM.

vacuum
14th June 2016, 08:58 PM
Real picture of the shooter's dad.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck2E7QuW0AYoCkU.jpg

http://endingthefed.com/the-father-of-the-orlando-shooter-recently-visited-congress-state-department-writes-open-letters-to-president-obama.html

Glass
14th June 2016, 09:39 PM
There was also a video of the police going into the club and then shooting.

They went in with Autofire. The video was posted on liveleak. I saw it played on UKColumn earlier today but I can't find the video at liveleak.
http://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-14th-june-2016

It was completely dark and from a bit of a distance so there was nothing to see.

IF, IF there was anyone in there, then the police would have been the ones who shot all the people. It was many dozens of rounds fired.

Cebu_4_2
15th June 2016, 03:31 AM
It's disgusting how the media...even Trump, praises these despicable vial demented sick group of creatures, because they fear they will be attacked by them.
I hear these sexual deviants being referred to as wonderful people, instead of calling them what they are, very sick, a scourge of society.
Because of their acceptance, society has become very sick.


And Trump is getting their vote, he even plays along with the false flags... pure genious. How long has it been since we had a smart leader?

mick silver
15th June 2016, 03:10 PM
Media Refusing to Cover Numerous Witness Accounts of Multiple Shooters in Orlando MassacreSource: Claire Bernish (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/media-censoring-multiple-shooter-orlando/)

As mainstream media headlines begin to solidify around the narrative a single shooter was responsible for the carnage at Pulse nightclub in Orlando on Sunday, details calling the now-official story into question must be addressed.
While no doubts can be raised Omar Mateen, indeed, played a role in the attack, eyewitness accounts — while varied and certainly subjective, considering the chaos unfolding at the time — don’t unanimously agree he acted alone.
“I mean, I’m pretty sure it was more than one person,” witness Janiel Gonzalez told a bevy of reporters. “Like I said, I heard two guns going off at the same time,” he continued, gesturing back and forth with his fingers indicating the gunfire emanated from separate directions.
Further, he explained, panicked clubgoers had difficulty locating exits during the shooting, which he estimated lasting eight minutes — plenty of time for the shooter(s) to reload multiple times. When Gonzalez and others finally found a door hidden behind a curtain,
“There was probably like 50 people trying to jump over each other just trying to exit the place, and there was a guy holding the door. The guy was holding the door and not letting us exit.”
When they asked why he was blocking their only way out — as the shooting seemed to be drawing near — Gonzalez said the man told them, “No, you guys have to stay inside. Stay inside.” Desperate, the group demanded he move to give them safe passage — but the man’s steadfast refusal to do so provoked a serious question.
As Gonzalez explained, the fact there was a semi-automatic rifle, and not a handgun, employed in the shooting, he realized this must be a hate crime — and then he “put two and two together, and I was like, this guy’s trying to prevent us from leaving the club. Maybe they’re working together.”
Fox News’ Megyn Kelly actually interviewed the man, Luis Burbano, who admitted to blocking the exit, asking, “You were holding the doors so that the shooter could not get out, but was there any concern that, you know, you might be keeping the people fleeing the shooter from getting out?”
“Yeah, um … yeah. That was on my mind. There was banging, there was pushing on the door. That was on my mind; but at that point in time, I just tried doing what I thought would be best at that moment,” because, as he explained, the door opened into an alleyway which was extremely narrow and would have created a juggernaut. Burbano also worried he might be opening the door to the shooter, so felt by holding it shut, he would prevent the attacker’s escape.
So, while Burbano’s actions were perhaps motivated by ‘doing the right thing,’ he directly endangered the lives of others trapped inside. Was he working in concert with the attacker or attackers? Probably not. Should he face consequences for blocking one of the only safe means for people to escape an active shooter? Without a doubt.
As for the description possibly more than one shooter had been involved, Gonzalez actually wasn’t alone.
A second witness described in an interview aired on the Today Show, “It had to have been more than one person, too, because [the gunfire] was just too continuous … It’s like you’re at a gun range and all you hear is just, BOOM, bang, bang … I can’t even describe it.”
“I don’t think anybody really knew what was going on”: Orlando shooting witness describes the scenehttps://t.co/Ktbkn65nrz
— TODAY (@TODAYshow) June 12, 2016
In footage captured by multiple witnesses outside the club, police appear to be engaging in an exchange of gunfire with an unknown subject. Mateen, however, was killed inside the club, according to most accounts.
“They’re shooting back and forth,” the person taping video can be heard saying over a volley of gunfire in the background. “Oh. My. God. They’re all shooting back and forth.”

Could this also lend credence to accounts of multiple attackers?
Yet another eyewitness to the massacre has come forward to describe the events for ABC News’ 20/20 — and his detailed account could be critical. After Mateen collected the hostages’ phones, according to the witness, he called either law enforcement or a news station and said, “America needs to stop bombing ISIS … in Syria.”
“Then he called somebody else that he knew,” the man recalled, “and he mentioned that he was the fourth shooter, and there was [sic] three others, and mentioned, I believe a female name, that was playing dead and she has a bombing vest and he has one, too. And then he said there was three snipers out there waiting for cops to come so the snipers would shoot at the cops.”
And even another witness to the events has described the situation as one of multiple shooters. Noting the sheer number of gun shots ringing out, the witness was asked by Infowars, “So, you believe there was more than one gunman there?”
“I believe that,” the young man replied, “because that’s kind of impossible, to me, for one person with two handguns firing off.” He also described seeing Mateen’s picture on social media, and said the suspect central to the investigation did not appear to have the physical build to employ the two weapons necessary to account for the barrage of gunfire he heard.
“He couldn’t manage to fire off two guns,” he surmised.

Decide for yourself, as always, what such accounts — which contradict the now-uniform mainstream narrative — might mean.
But remember, as well, questioning what you’re being spoon fed by the government and corporate media is in no way disrespectful of the victims. Rather, it is out of respect for the dead and injured that appropriate parties be held accountable — and factual accuracy is imperative in order that justice be served appropriately.


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mick silver
15th June 2016, 03:13 PM
"How America’s Afghan crusade came home to Orlando" (http://www.blacklistednews.com/%22How_America%E2%80%99s_Afghan_crusade_came_home_ to_Orlando%22/51932/0/38/38/Y/M.html)

There are many threads to this tragic, horrifying story of a gay American son of an Afghan mujahid. There’s the question of blowback: the deep politics of short-sighted military interventions and the self-defeating profiteering of the military industrial complex. There’s the escalating clash of cultures and the crisis of multiple identities that is becoming evermore fractious as Western wars have brought unresolved chaos to foreign shores, and invited foreign refugees from theatres of war to the homeland. And ultimately, there’s the destructive force of repressed sexuality. This investigation throws light on the complex political, cultural, religious and personal forces that likely nurtured the Orlando terrorist into a man capable of tremendous violence. The story opens up from an exclusive analysis of the network of companies surrounding Omar Mateen’s father http://blacklistednews.com/

mick silver
15th June 2016, 03:19 PM
Police Admit Officers May Also Be Responsible For Gunning Down Orlando Nightclub PatronsSource: Jay Syrmopoulos (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-admit-officers-orlando-shooting/)

Orlando, FL – New details have emerged that may shed more light on the extreme casualty count in the Orlando nightclub killings. On Monday, Orlando Police Chief John Mina intimated that some of the victims may have been killed by officers trying to perform a rescue operation.
“I will say this, that’s all part of the investigation,” Mina said. “But I will say when our SWAT officers, about eight or nine officers, opened fire, the backdrop was a concrete wall, and they were being fired upon.”
A confidential law enforcement source close to the investigation said a crowd of up to 300 people within the club — combined with the complex layout of the structure — may have resulted in numerous patrons being struck by gunfire from officers, according to WFAA-ABC 8 (http://www.wfaa.com/news/nation-now/officers-may-have-shot-orlando-club-patrons/243700448).
Mina stood by his decision to employ a tactical strike amidst the rising likelihood that a number of the dead were the result of “friendly fire” from officers.
“It was a hard decision to make, but it was the right decision,” he said. “Our No. 1 priority is on saving lives, and it was the right decision to make.”
Details of the investigation are a being pieced together by local, federal and state investigators, as they continue to process the gruesome scene from a number of law enforcement mobile command units.
Authorities have determined that Mateen, 29, walked to the club at 2:02 a.m. armed with a semi-automatic long rifle and a Glock handgun.
An off-duty police officer working security at the club was outside investigating an underage drinker when he heard gunshots inside the club. The off-duty officer then proceeded to run inside the club and exchange gunfire with Mateen, with three additional officers soon arriving to back up the off-duty cop, law enforcement sources told WFAA-ABC 8. As the officers fired at Mateen, he retreated into a bathroom toward the rear of the club with a number of hostages.
“Those additional officers made entry while the suspect was shooting,” Mina said. “They forced him to stop shooting and retreat to the bathroom where we believe he had several hostages.”
While in the bathroom Mateen called 911 three times, pledging his allegiance to the Islamic State during one of the calls, although currently he has no known affiliation with any specific terrorist group. Mateen has been linked with American suicide bomber Moner Abu-Salha — who drove 16 tons of explosives into a Syrian government facility on behalf of Al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front in late May of that year. The men had also attended the same Eastern Florida mosque.
It has since come to light that he was a regular at the gay club, which raises serious questions about the credibility of his Islamist “terrorist” connection, and raises the possibility that Mateen suffered from severe identity issues that manifested in violence. The FBI confirmed that Mateen had been on their radar and had been interviewed on 3 separate occasions.
“He was in one bathroom fortified with hostages,” Mina said. “There were people in the opposing bathroom, about 15 or 20 people. And the details are unknown, they’re part of the investigation.”
Orlando police crisis negotiators that spoke with Mateen said he remained calm during the talks, but that he intimated that he intended to kill more people, Mina said.
“Based off statements made by the suspect and based on information we received by the suspect and from the hostages and the people inside,” Mina said, “we believe further loss of life was imminent. I made the decision to commence the rescue operation and do the explosive breach.”
The SWAT team attempted to topple the exterior wall leading to the bathroom that held 15 to 20 people, but failed, so Mina decided to use a Bearcat to break a hole in the wall. The vehicle rammed the wall, creating a small opening — about 3 feet wide and 2 feet off the ground — that captives could use to escape.
“We were able to rescue dozens and dozens of people who came out of that wall,” Mina said. “The suspect came out of that hole himself with a handgun and a long gun and engaged in a gunbattle with officers where he was ultimately killed.”
Mateen engaged officers immediately (http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crime/orlando-shooter-killed-by-police-in-hail-of-gunfire-as-he-was-trying-to-escape-through-hole-rescuers-382673091.html), striking one of them in his helmet, as officers returned fire striking the assailant several times.
The exterior concrete wall where the siege occurred is dotted with dozens of bullet holes, evidence of a shootout that included dozens of rounds fired by officers that likely hit and killed many hostages.
The final exchange of gunfire Mateen had with law enforcement occurred at 5 a.m., ending the three-hour ordeal. Officers then walked into the nightclub and found the dead bodies of club patrons strewn about the club, with more bodies were found in a nearby bathroom.
There is a strong likelihood that we will never find out how many of the victims were ultimately killed by “friendly fire”.





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midnight rambler
15th June 2016, 03:22 PM
There is a strong likelihood that we will never find out how many of the victims were ultimately killed by “friendly fire”.


Nonsense. The po-po know precisely what ammo (e.g. Gold Dot and/or the Federal T3 projectile) they were using and can distinguish between their ammo and the shooter(s) ammo.

Joshua01
15th June 2016, 03:24 PM
Nonsense. The po-po know precisely what ammo (e.g. Gold Dot and/or the Federal T3 projectile) they were using and can distinguish between their ammo and the shooter(s) ammo.

One word...ballistics.

mick silver
15th June 2016, 03:27 PM
Orlando Gun Store Owner Tells Media: Do Some Truthful Reporting Source: Truth Out (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/orlando-gun-store-owner-tells-media-do-some-truthful-reporting)


Ed Henson, the owner of the gun store that sold firearms to the Orlando shooter, held a press conference yesterday (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2016/06/13/florida-gun-store-owner-schools-media-how-buying-gun-works) and made a request of the media.
“I just hope that you do some truthful reporting and get to the facts and stay focused, at least for the incident and say your prayers for the victims. It is horrific and we all feel that same pain.”
Henson explained to the media the measures in place to purchase a firearm in Florida.
“An evil person came in here and legally purchased two firearm from us,” he stated, “And if he hadn’t gotten them from us, I’m sure he would have gotten them from another local gun story in the area.”
“If a law enforcement officer walks into this gun store, in full uniform with a firearm on their side, that officer cannot make a purchase on a firearm. If you can believe that. If that officer has a concealed carry permit in addition to his credentials he can make a purchase. There is a full back ground check done on that officer at that time. Hard to believe, but that’s the truth. If the officer has no concealed carry permit, that officer has a three-day wait, and that doesn’t include the day he purchased the gun or any holidays and weekends. ”
Henson also stated “I would like to avoid any political issues and stick to the facts regarding this case.”
As for body armor, Henson stated that he did not sell body armor to the shooter nor has his store ever sold body armor.



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Cebu_4_2
15th June 2016, 03:38 PM
3 words...
wheres the bodies
wheres the pictures
wheres the videos

osoab
15th June 2016, 03:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIhb5GEqWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIhb5GEqWA

Horn
15th June 2016, 03:59 PM
huh? also known for his work in this movie

Love City, Jalalabad (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3004140/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt) (2013)
Full Cast & Crew

cheka.
15th June 2016, 04:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIhb5GEqWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIhb5GEqWA

that's him. part of a documentary on oil spill

Norweger
15th June 2016, 05:23 PM
Just read that one of the "survivors" is named Angel Colon. What a mockery.

Joshua01
15th June 2016, 06:40 PM
Wow! This guy even had time to Facebook post while he was fucking alone with a single rifle shooting over 100 people.


This guy was good!!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/15/orlando-terrorists-chilling-facebook-posts-from-inside-club-revealed.html?intcmp=hpbt1

Joshua01
15th June 2016, 06:41 PM
Just read that one of the "survivors" is named Angel Colon. What a mockery.

Sounds like a perfect asshole to me

PatColo
15th June 2016, 06:48 PM
Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2016.06.14
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2016/06/jeff-rense-radio-show-20160614.html

Re the 1st hour with devvy I commented,



...

Thanks for coming back into action zap. Rense's shows are what i missed most from the old mami's...the other shows I could find elsewhere, but not JR's! :(

That said, really disappointed to hear JR & Devvy regurgitate all that dinjoo-spew about scary moozlemismists, like a turbocharged version of the dinjooz media.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?33073-zio-shill-Devvy-Kidd-Scary-Moozlemism-A-cancer-oozing-across-America

And all that devvy/JR dinjoospew about eeeevil moozlemismists, triggered by their (supposed...) blind faith in the sudden, anomalous veracity of dinjooz.media.gov's account of (their) Orlando HomoHoax!
https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/14/orlando-nightclub-shooting-questions-and-anomalies-surround-worst-mass-shooting-in-u-s-history

Add devvy/JR's bit about moozlemismist female genital mutilation... I'd bet JR himself is dinjoo-ritually male genitally mutilated (aka "circumcised") as around 95% of US born males were after WW2?! No talk about that; only about the scary moozlemismists and their primitive barbarity!

PatColo
15th June 2016, 07:06 PM
Orlando Gay-Club Shooting: The pieces that don’t fit
http://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/15/orlando-gay-club-shooting-the-pieces-that-dont-fit

Joshua01
15th June 2016, 07:22 PM
Orlando Gay-Club Shooting: The pieces that don’t fit
http://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/15/orlando-gay-club-shooting-the-pieces-that-dont-fit

The comments at the end are great

PatColo
15th June 2016, 07:49 PM
^ that's what's nice about http://memoryholeblog.com -- high quality commenters, often independent researchers themselves offering new bits. Check that homepage; there's abouf a half dozen different Orlando HomoHoax entries now all with great commenters.

PatColo
15th June 2016, 08:19 PM
YTs inside:

Orlando Shooting Hoax - Ambulances? What Ambulances? Orlando Don't Have Ambulances. 16mins
http://whoolisblog.blogspot.com/2016/06/orlando-shooting-hoax-ambulances-what.html

Orlando Shooting Hoax Busted Wide Open 16m
http://whoolisblog.blogspot.com/2016/06/orlando-shooting-hoax-busted-wide-open.html

The Dude Drops Orlando Shooting Hoax Truth Bomb LIVE on TV!!! 6m
http://whoolisblog.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-dude-drops-orlando-shooting-hoax.html

Shami-Amourae
15th June 2016, 09:00 PM
Based Steven Anderson...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ4YL_R7Bvc

Neuro
16th June 2016, 12:29 AM
Based Steven Anderson...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ4YL_R7Bvc

"This video have been removed for violating youtubes policy on hate speech."

Shami-Amourae
16th June 2016, 12:37 AM
"This video have been removed for violating youtubes policy on hate speech."

It's a mirror of a mirror.

You can just type "Steven Anderson Orlando" into YouTube.

I posted another mirror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxj8y5ctmiE

Neuro
16th June 2016, 01:17 AM
It's a mirror of a mirror.

You can just type "Steven Anderson Orlando" into YouTube.

I posted another mirror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxj8y5ctmiE

He said the devil loves these kinds of events... Maybe the 'devil' staged it too then?

PatColo
16th June 2016, 01:34 PM
This 2 hr JFetzer show starts off with some sandy hoax talk before getting into the HomoHoax in the 1st 1/2 hour somewhere. The good shit starts at 43m with Gary King's presentation.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0uo-fxH3AMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uo-fxH3AMI

The Real Deal Ep # 209 Another Staged Shooting in Orlando with Gary King (Edited version)
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PatColo
16th June 2016, 01:48 PM
5 YT parts inside for about 1 hr total,

http://www.renegadetribune.com/race-reality-tv-program-dr-william-pierce-guns-race-freedom/
Race and Reality TV Program: Dr. William Pierce on Guns, Race and Freedom
June 16, 2016 renegade 0 Comment

Dr. William Pierce was on Richmond’s Race and Reality TV Program in 1990 to discuss the jewish push for gun confiscation, their reasons for it, and how races ties in.

osoab
16th June 2016, 03:04 PM
t
http://youtu.be/A23fqxJEHE0

The guys taking the vid are what, 1000+ ft from the club? I think all the shots heard are from the cops at the begging. Near the end, the barrage of shots is the "breach" of the building I believe. At the very end it is a methodic rhythm. I count 27 shots in the sequence and one outlier at the end.

Why would the video be posted out of sequence?

Shami-Amourae
16th June 2016, 09:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWWArz0V-4k

Steven Anderson is calling to support Verity Baptist Church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5eVY6tY698

4153 Northgate Blvd Suite #1
Sacramento, CA 95834

vacuum
16th June 2016, 09:48 PM
Husband and wife were texting each other during the shooting.

http://pamelageller.com/2016/06/orlando-jihadi-and-wife-texted-each-other-during-shooting.html/

osoab
17th June 2016, 05:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_QTIJTLaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_QTIJTLaE

http://crisiscast.com/clients/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJiUGukxZLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJiUGukxZLQ


http://crisiscast.com/blog/how-to-simulate-a-terrorist-atrocity-the-guardian/


CrisisCast was pleased to be interviewed by Emine Saner for the Guardian who wanted to add context around how large scale immersive scenarios are planned, designed, prepared and executed with the maximum possible impact for learners. For us it’s all about the learning objectives and outputs. Every element planned into an exercise should serve that one end and the only way of thoroughly ensuring an insight-changing outcome for learners is to make absolutely sure you have the story right.




https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/90d57557d1362fdb9178af726520d0a47d412c46/0_142_3346_2008/master/3346.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&


No blood on the floor.
How to Simulate a Terrorist Atrocity – The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/13/how-to-simulate-a-terrorist-atrocity-trafford-centre-manchester-drill?CMP=share_btn_link)

PatColo
17th June 2016, 08:45 AM
RSJ just released this mini docu, 26m:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sWrqwi4DTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sWrqwi4DTA

PatColo
17th June 2016, 09:55 AM
Orlando Gay-Club Shooter Is Also An Actor! (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/16/orlando-gay-club-shooter-is-also-an-actor/)

This post was originally published on Fellowship of the Minds. The deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history seems to be populated by professional actors. First, Luis Burbano, a much-interviewed eyewitness who claims to have been in the Orlando gay nightclub, Pulse, at the time of the shooting, … Continue reading 》https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/16/orlando-gay-club-shooter-is-also-an-actor

June 16, 2016 7 Replies

Horn
17th June 2016, 10:06 AM
I remember watching the local Orlando news from here on the day, they have a link to a CBS Florida channel here for some reason. I thought it were highly suspect how some local U.S. senator were mincing very freely amongst the "casualties" (or stated casualties) and news coverage. He had a real "rolled up sleeves hands on approach" to the entire situation.

Very little security around him for being amidst an "ISIS strike point"

This guy carries the message that Shami is looking for.. video at link. He wants a "Common denominator of Americans", all of them considered Islamic Extremists no doubt.



Orlando club shooting: US must dig down deep, says Senator

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36513018

singular_me
17th June 2016, 11:30 AM
HAHAHA. ROFLOL

------------------------


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19YlwQPYEjk


Orlando Shooter's Wife: The FBI Told Me Not to Tell the Media He Was Gay
17 June 2016 GMT

............... Dias told the Brazilian television station SBT Brazil Tuesday that Yusufiy believed Mateen was gay and that his father called him gay several times in front of her. However, “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.” Since the attack, Mateen has been dubbed an “Islamic terrorist” by politicians, senior officials and commentators in the U.S. following reports he had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group. However, the idea that he could have been a closet-homosexual indicates that the Orlando shooting might have been a deeply felt and personal act of hate. The FBI and law enforcement in the United States have so far been pursuing the “Islamist terrorism” angle and their alleged demand from Mateen’s ex-wife to keep mum about his homosexuality suggests they want to downplay the personal and self-hating nature of the attack in favor of the Islamic terrorism-related one.

Since his attack on the Pulse gay nightclub in Orlando, the developing narrative surrounding Mateen’s life is that of a troubled human being who had a history of domestic violence, a struggle with his sexual orientation, as well as an inclination toward a radical version of Islam. However, in addition to recently pledging allegiance to the Islamic State group, Mateen had previously shown support for both al-Qaida and Hezbollah, who have radically different interpretations of Islam and are in fact bitter enemies. This suggests Mateen had an extremely shallow and confused understanding of Islam as he failed to comprehend the social and political differences between the diferent groups. Hezbollah are currently fighting against the Islamic State and other radical Sunni groups in Syria...........
http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relationships/fbi-told-orlando-shooters-wife-not-tell-us-media-he-was-gay

collector
17th June 2016, 01:34 PM
I remember watching the local Orlando news from here on the day, they have a link to a CBS Florida channel here for some reason. I thought it were highly suspect how some local U.S. senator were mincing very freely amongst the "casualties" (or stated casualties) and news coverage. He had a real "rolled up sleeves hands on approach" to the entire situation.

Very little security around him for being amidst an "ISIS strike point"

This guy carries the message that Shami is looking for.. video at link. He wants a "Common denominator of Americans", all of them considered Islamic Extremists no doubt.



Orlando club shooting: US must dig down deep, says Senator

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36513018

I was watching News 6 out of Orlanda (the channel that spins the 6 to look like 666) and I thought it was funny that after Nelson's speech, they had Rubio (the latina ) chime in as well. I'm sure a shooting at a gay nightclub really hits home with him. My first impression was that they played Nelson's remarks just to cover for Rubio - not to imply that he's gay or anything, we just want to hear from both senators (for some reason)

Glass
17th June 2016, 05:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19YlwQPYEjk


just want to point out this video doesn't actually prove it was filmed in a studio. They do often set up lighting or reflectors when filming outdoors. So it is possible that lights are being used to film an outdoor interview.

so I would like to see some anomalies with the back ground or something to be sure

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 05:57 PM
HAHAHA. ROFLOL

------------------------


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19YlwQPYEjk


Orlando Shooter's Wife: The FBI Told Me Not to Tell the Media He Was Gay
17 June 2016 GMT

............... Dias told the Brazilian television station SBT Brazil Tuesday that Yusufiy believed Mateen was gay and that his father called him gay several times in front of her. However, “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.” Since the attack, Mateen has been dubbed an “Islamic terrorist” by politicians, senior officials and commentators in the U.S. following reports he had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group. However, the idea that he could have been a closet-homosexual indicates that the Orlando shooting might have been a deeply felt and personal act of hate. The FBI and law enforcement in the United States have so far been pursuing the “Islamist terrorism” angle and their alleged demand from Mateen’s ex-wife to keep mum about his homosexuality suggests they want to downplay the personal and self-hating nature of the attack in favor of the Islamic terrorism-related one.

Since his attack on the Pulse gay nightclub in Orlando, the developing narrative surrounding Mateen’s life is that of a troubled human being who had a history of domestic violence, a struggle with his sexual orientation, as well as an inclination toward a radical version of Islam. However, in addition to recently pledging allegiance to the Islamic State group, Mateen had previously shown support for both al-Qaida and Hezbollah, who have radically different interpretations of Islam and are in fact bitter enemies. This suggests Mateen had an extremely shallow and confused understanding of Islam as he failed to comprehend the social and political differences between the diferent groups. Hezbollah are currently fighting against the Islamic State and other radical Sunni groups in Syria...........
http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relationships/fbi-told-orlando-shooters-wife-not-tell-us-media-he-was-gay

Do you realize how dumb you make the rest of us look who don't follow your Crisis Actors Cult?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjG-ZA9L-L0
You're taking a dump in the punch bowl.

You're not winning over any normies with this shit. You're making us all look fucking nuts. These are the same people who think they can join the "Illuminati" by listening to Beyoncé.

PatColo
17th June 2016, 06:27 PM
just want to point out this video doesn't actually prove it was filmed in a studio. They do often set up lighting or reflectors when filming outdoors. So it is possible that lights are being used to film an outdoor interview.

so I would like to see some anomalies with the back ground or something to be sure

I find the notion of their needing multiple big square(ish) lighting units like that for an outdoor daytime shot implausible.

I was looking for which way the background shadows were going, to compare to their faces, but don't see shadows anywhere?!

Question: at 1:00 (and elsewhere), vid shows a "basic grèen screen studio package." I'd guess that's shown the way it's supposed to be setup; but that's the question? In the green screen package image at 1:00, the lights are shown with their backs to the gs... maybe dumb Q, but the lights should be the other way around, illuminating the subjects & gs behind them... no? Now guessing the 1:00 image is simply how the rental co displays the package. /blushing :D

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 06:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_QTIJTLaE


What's it like knowing you're extension of the Flat Earther psy-op?
https://s31.postimg.org/dcep3a91n/6_17_2016_7_28_26_PM.png
http://www.flatearthbible.com/fake-orlando-shooting-crisis-cast-omar-mateen-actor-odd-tv/


If you think I'm just cherry-picking, read any of the comment section of these Crisis Actors videos. You'll find people promoting Flat Earth all over the place. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvN5FkyF5mc)
https://s32.postimg.org/kgoenq6vp/6_17_2016_7_33_10_PM.png

The Flat Earthers, Crisis Actors, and Mandela Effect people are all one big psy-op on the Truther community to confuse and destroy us from within.

Glass
17th June 2016, 06:43 PM
I find the notion of their needing multiple big square(ish) lighting units like that for an outdoor daytime shot implausible.

I was looking for which way the background shadows were going, to compare to their faces, but don't see shadows anywhere?!

Question: at 1:00 (and elsewhere), vid shows a "basic grèen screen studio package." I'd guess that's shown the way it's supposed to be setup; but that's the question? In the green screen package image at 1:00, the lights are shown with their backs to the gs... maybe dumb Q, but the lights should be the other way around, illuminating the subjects & gs behind them... no? Now guessing the 1:00 image is simply how the rental co displays the package. /blushing :D

It depends on the situation. The "lights" might be diffusers or reflectors. It's impossible to tell from the reflection in the womans glasses. Light can come from many directions depending on how they set up the lights, diffuser screens and/or reflectors. It's possible to make light glow anywhere you want it to with the right setup.

The only images/video of that interview I have seen is that YT and there is very little of the running video shown. The YT'er has the video frozen for the whole time, except for maybe 5 or 6 seconds. So again, I can't pick up any anomalies that would indicate green screen.

I will say I don't believe the woman. I saw an earlier video and it was clear she was reading cues from a card. Things like the name of a "friend" of her "son".

And because I don't know, haven't watched any interviews with "witnesses" etc, Has this woman shown any photo's of her with her son? I saw a photo in that YT vid of "her son" with other men friends. Does she have one of her self and son?

PatColo
17th June 2016, 07:11 PM
^^ {0} OH NO's, my fellow Dinjooz.gov FF/Hoax/PsyOp Researching Crows! (((Farmer Shalomi-a-MEME-me's))) back agin with his trusty, super-duper-skeery mock/shame gambits agin, warnin us we bitter git our research & posts into compliance with his way-a-thinkin, or git on outa here!!

OH DEAR, WHAT SHOULD WE DO!?!? {0} {0}


(((http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/42500/Raven-s-Revenge-on-George-Bush-Scarecrow--42771.jpg)))

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 07:13 PM
^ {0} OH NO's, my fellow dinjooz.gov FF/Hoax/PsyOp Researching Crows! Farmer Shalomi's back again with his trusty, super-scary mock/shame gambits agin, warnin us to either git our research & posts into compliance with his way of thinkin, or git on outa here!!

OH DEAR, WHAT SHOULD WE DO!?!? {0} {0}

This kind of "everything is a false flag" conspiracy theory style seemed to emerge with Sandy Hook. Before that, conspiracy researchers seemed more methodical, with fairly high standards of proof because they were always being called weak thinkers, non-experts, etc. So they often had to work harder and produce MORE proof to counter the shills. Nowadays, people have been taught to just scream false flag every time there's an event. YouTube is full of channels that make lots of money getting viewers, just by calling everything false flag. Its hard to tell where the misinformation and counter-skepticism begins and ends, or if people are just being retards taking a meme in a stupid directions.

I think it is a combination of both. There is money to be made selling people paranoia, but conspiracies are real and happen all the time. All governments, wealthy men, and businesses are conspiring. Adam Smith even said this.

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 07:31 PM
dinjooz.gov

You NEVER once can name the Jews. Never once.

Is it physically possible for you to say the word "Jew"?

http://www.infostormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/decom_Dr.-Joseph-Goebbels-Identify-the-Jew_56d863945bb43.jpg

You try to twist and corrupt the message of people fighting the Jews, and misdirect it at every turn.

You can't even use the Alt-Right's memes correctly against us. You're like the Bernie Sanders campaign trying to capitalize on meme magic. Only people on the Alt-Right are smart enough to use that kind of artillery. We control the memes.
http://i.imgur.com/7zQJ0yY.jpg

If I'm wrong, please please say the word Jew. Just once. Prove me wrong.

PatColo
17th June 2016, 08:16 PM
Glass: she's playing the part "Christine Leinonen", and is the main focus of this RSJ vid, which also shows a couple images of her & her supposed son, < 8 mins:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V3o_acLkn0I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?vV3o_acLkn0I


Her "interview" clips are all over YT, http://youtube.com/results?q=Christine%20Leinonen

PatColo
17th June 2016, 08:34 PM
(((Farmer Shalomi-a-MEME-me))), I ref you to:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?87801-JOOboo-joospews-about-dajooz-and-why-everyone-must-be-in-compliance

Please tell us Crows: is it still your belief that 19 scary moozlem hijackers commandeered 4 commercial planes on 9/11/01, and flew them into:
- TTs 1 & 2
- the pentagon
- the ground in Shanksville PA

^ only those events please; notice nothing there about said moozlems' dinjoosh manipulators, or how/why the TTs fell. :)

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 08:51 PM
(((Farmer Shalomi-a-MEME-me))), I ref you to:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?87801-JOOboo-joospews-about-dajooz-and-why-everyone-must-be-in-compliance

Please tell us Crows: is it still your belief that 19 scary moozlem hijackers commandeered 4 commercial planes on 9/11/01, and flew them into:
- TTs 1 & 2
- the pentagon
- the ground in Shanksville PA

^ only those events please; notice nothing there about said moozlems' dinjoosh manipulators, or how/why the TTs fell. :)

What is a Shalomi-a-MEME-me?

What is a dinjooz?

What is a moozlem?

Why do you keep flat out lying, and stating that I believe the official story of 9/11? I don't believe it. I never did except for when I was a little kid and didn't know any better. I keep saying that I don't believe it (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?90310-Orlando-HomoHoax-truth-bomb-on-PressTV-6-mins&p=838767&viewfull=1#post838767), and you keep accusing me of believing the official story. You only lie. Anyone can go back in the threads and see that you are lying.

You are PURPOSELY misleading people on this forum, and lying about my record.
https://s31.postimg.org/8q234ux1n/6_17_2016_9_49_05_PM.png

I used to just ignore your "Everything is a False Flag" bullshit as being gullible. Now I understand you're intentionally out to mislead people. Proof is in my posted image above.

Your attacks on me are all ad-hominem based. You can't even use my own quotes, or history against me since it would prove your lying.

Horn
17th June 2016, 08:57 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V3o_acLkn0I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?vV3o_acLkn0I


Her "interview" clips are all over YT, http://youtube.com/results?q=Christine%20Leinonen

yeah that video is more evident its a greenscreen than the greenscreen video,

serious chop and hard lines, like when the weatherman stands infront of his greenscreen.

PatColo
17th June 2016, 09:18 PM
^^ I merely wish to clarify your ambiguous opinion re one specific element of dinjooz.media.gov's official 911 CT; namely the "19 Arab hijackers..." element.

Given your constant judgmentalism re other members' lines of research & developing theories; you would do us a great service by clarifying, again:


[...] is it still your belief that 19 scary moozlem hijackers commandeered 4 commercial planes on 9/11/01, and flew them into:
- TTs 1 & 2
- the pentagon
- the ground in Shanksville PA

^ only those events please; notice nothing there about said moozlems' dinjoosh manipulators, or how/why the TTs fell. :)


:(??

Horn
17th June 2016, 09:28 PM
You NEVER once can name the Jews. Never once.

If I'm wrong, please please say the word Jew. Just once. Prove me wrong.


Pat is probably a shade smarter than the rest of us,

we're probably all on Trump's No Fly list already for typing the word into ours cellphones once or twice.

so he uses jooz, dimjoos and the like,{**} I'm all for codespeak, we need gyro decoder mailed every month.

Only a dirty Muslim would speak about the jews in a negative light over the internet to most New Yorkers.

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 09:32 PM
[...] is it still your belief that 19 scary moozlem hijackers commandeered 4 commercial planes on 9/11/01, and flew them into:
- TTs 1 & 2
There definitely looked to be demolition explosives planted in the WTC buildings. I don't know who, or how they were done. I'm unsure what happened with the jets that flew into them. They probably were hijacked, and then landed somewhere, and all the people were lined up and shot, then the planes were remotely flown in as a cover for the controlled demolitions. The problem with this is there's so many possibilities that I really don't know what happened. I don't think though that the buildings could have fallen free fall style from just jets flying into them. That's clearly bullshit. I think there was some sort of Mossad/Saudi Arabian connection going. Saudi Arabia is run by Jews in Turbans. I used to cook for them in real life and can confirm they are Jewish as fuck. My co-workers red pilled me on it and explained how they pulled it off. This is what led me into the conspiracy realm.



- the pentagon


That was hit by a missile from a video I've seen. No idea where the missile came from, but it surely didn't look like it was hit with a jet.



- the ground in Shanksville PA


No idea.

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 09:37 PM
Pat is probably a shade smarter than the rest of us,

we're probably all on Trump's No Fly list already for typing the word into ours cellphones once or twice.

so he uses jooz, dimjoos and the like,{**} I'm all for codespeak, we need gyro decoder mailed every month.

Jews get their power from blending in with society and passing off as White. If White people noticed Jews all the time, they'd notice too that they are undermining us at every turn.

This is why they haven't been able to control/take over East Asia like they have White Western countries.

The worst thing you can do to a Jew is to name them. Jews are at war with people who notice them. It's a war on noticing.

Horn
17th June 2016, 09:58 PM
The worst thing you can do to a Jew is to name them. Jews are at war with people who notice them. It's a war on noticing.


I have No idea what you're talking about, most jews I've ever been in contact with do quite well with being noticed as jewish. Yes, they carry a genetic shame about them, but its worn under the outer sleeve. You may be familiar with half white jews to which there are many, They sometimes hide and try to blend.

The bond between white and jew is reinforced in common enemies, jews are plentiful in providing those as a go between race.

We are talking about those false slavic jews of course, they'll do their best to prop up / blend with their semite forebearers.

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 10:07 PM
I have No idea what you're talking about, most jews I've ever been in contact with do quite well with being noticed as jewish.

They want to be noticed only when you're benefiting them in some way (Christians worshiping Jews for example,) or when they are playing the victim card.

It's like during National Socialist Germany they wore yellow Star of David patches to identify as Jews, then blamed Hitler for doing this to them, when Hitler had nothing to do with it.

Horn
17th June 2016, 10:30 PM
It's like during National Socialist Germany they wore yellow Star of David patches to identify as Jews, then blamed Hitler for doing this to them, when Hitler had nothing to do with it.

Blame games were just strategy to a common goal of a Zionist Mount.

No empathy here for created sympathizers on either side.

cheka.
17th June 2016, 10:56 PM
^^ I merely wish to clarify your ambiguous opinion re one specific element of dinjooz.media.gov's official 911 CT; namely the "19 Arab hijackers..." element.

Given your constant judgmentalism re other members' lines of research & developing theories; you would do us a great service by clarifying, again:




:(??

seems he likes the official stories when they match his view/agenda

we are all probably guilty of that to some degree

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 11:12 PM
member wants the gay club shooting to be a scary gay muzzie because it supports his cause(s). same with other events that have all but been proven to be false flags.

we all have our biases -- and he is quick to jump on official stories that can be used/spun his way

sham - no offense, you are one of the most stimulating posters here.

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1389/37/1389377019873.png

>ok fellow Illuminati
>we're about to pull off one of the biggest false flags this country has ever seen
>we're going to use the same actor as the staged BP cleanup false flag
>the fake club full of fake gays is ready
>everyone knows their lines
>all set?
>WAIT, should we pull down his IMDB page in case anyone gets suspicious?
>...nah

I'm the person who doesn't look to conspiracy first. Most things usually turn out to have the simplest explanations. Like maybe, if you allow a bunch of Muslims into the West, they blow shit up. I don't think the government is that smart/organized. You guys give our enemies way to much credit. We live in a chaotic world where everyone lives based on their own self interests.

I notice a pattern that a certain group of people always say something is a False Flag and starts screaming about Crisis Actors. I have believed some things are False Flag, some aren't, and some might be. A certain group has said EVERYTHING is a False Flag. Every. Single. Terrorist. Attack. That is fucking insane. It's made me question all of the "False Flags" as bullshit, so I take the position that the simplest explanation is the most likely until proven otherwise.

There's a lot of evidence this Omar guy worked with the Feds and went rouge. That doesn't mean it's a False Flag muh Crisis Actors either, it just means the FBI wanted to pull some shit to get more funding and to be relevant, and the guy decided to kill a bunch of Fags since he became radicalized and secretly felt gay.

How does that make me the truly biased one? I mean we're all biased and have an agenda, but I'm the one on this forum giving the other side. Without me you guys would all be circle-jerking each other on Crisis Actor IMDBs and talking about how Silver is going to $5,000 an ounce.

Literally everyone on /pol/ and the Alt-Right are laughing at the Crisis Actors meme. It's literally considered a joke. You guys are dragging down the Truther community, and I'm trying to save you by bringing you into the Alt-Right. The same thing happened to the Libertarians. Now the Libertarians are a bunch of SJWs and all the sane ones moved into the Alt-Right. The Alt-Right is the only right-wing movement that's growing and winning. That's the way forward, not posting tl;dl MP3s on Sandy Hook that no one listens to or gives a fuck about.

cheka.
17th June 2016, 11:18 PM
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1389/37/1389377019873.png

>ok fellow Illuminati
>we're about to pull off one of the biggest false flags this country has ever seen
>we're going to use the same actor as the staged BP cleanup false flag
>the fake club full of fake gays is ready
>everyone knows their lines
>all set?
>WAIT, should we pull down his IMDB page in case anyone gets suspicious?
>...nah

I'm the person who doesn't look to conspiracy first. Most things usually turn out to have the simplest explanations. I don't think the government is that smart/organized. You guys give our enemies way to much credit. We live in a chaotic world where everyone lives based on their own self interests.

I notice a pattern that a certain group of people always say something is a False Flag and starts screaming about Crisis Actors. I have believed some things are False Flag, some aren't, and some might be. A certain group has said EVERYTHING is a False Flag. Every. Single. Terrorist. Attack. That is fucking insane. It's made me question all of the "False Flags" as bullshit, so I take the position that the simplest explanation is the most likely until proven otherwise.

How does that make me the truly biased one? I'm the one on this forum giving the other side. Without me you guys would all be circle-jerking each other on Crisis Actor IMDBs and talking about how Silver is going to $5,000 an ounce.

Literally everyone on /pol/ and the Alt-Right are laughing at the Crisis Actors meme. It's literally considered a joke. You guys are dragging down the Truther community, and I'm trying to save you by bringing you into the Alt-Right. The same thing happened to the Libertarians. Now the Libertarians are a bunch of SJWs and all the sane ones moved into the Alt-Right.


i edited my comment before you posted -- but since you asked...

we all know the official story. there is NO reason to run with that during the early stages of investigation (at gsus). as a political ploy elsewhere....beat your drum all you want

the gsus sheep dogs dig and pick at the official story to see if it is credible. the smart sheep wait and read what the sheep dogs come up with.

the dumbfucks/shills/morons/ take ANY stance before the sheep dogs have done their work

do your agenda thing at the right places....but watch the dogs at gsus so you dont embarrass yourself

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 11:48 PM
i edited my comment before you posted -- but since you asked...

we all know the official story. there is NO reason to run with that during the early stages of investigation (at gsus). as a political ploy elsewhere....beat your drum all you want

the gsus sheep dogs dig and pick at the official story to see if it is credible. the smart sheep wait and read what the sheep dogs come up with.

the dumbfucks/shills/morons/ take ANY stance before the sheep dogs have done their work

do your agenda thing at the right places....but watch the dogs at gsus so you dont embarrass yourself

Here's a sample of /pol/.
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/77672723/#77672723


Read this stuff:


http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1452/58/1452583489906.png

Do you dumbfucks really think they'd be advertising for a super-secret psyop in fucking Craigslist? Are you guys that fucking retarded?
Seriously, believing that every event is a false flag, and nothing actually happens -- why? Wouldn't it be easier to keep secret while guaranteeing success if they simply manipulated patsies to actually shoot people, blow themselves up, create real destruction? If they just manipulated terrorist-types to actually do terrorism -- isn't that how the Mossad made al qaeda, and the CIA/Mossad made ISIS? No, no, just ignore that. You fucks would rather choose the most improbable, complicated, bizarre narrative as your theory... Why, just so you can keep insisting that Muslims dindu nuffin, and nothing bad ever happens with firearms, ever?

>pic related is a real crisis actor for a military/FEMA drill, an iraq war veteran

stop being children, go to the National Security Archive and study up on actual black ops; operations that that involves "Crisis Actors" like you idiots imagine aren't how they do these ops
>They use as few people as possible to create real crisis, then let nature take its course
>they don't use hundreds or thousands of "actors" to pretend to be the public, because you can't control that many people
Jesus, wake the fuck up newfags


Source:
>http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/



Perfect example, the truth never leaked definitively in those cases. There was just an online movement of conspiracy speculation, not hard proof or conspirators coming forward, just clowns with contradictory theories. Project Mockingbird destroyed 9/11 Truth movement early on, by discrediting it. Just like all of you are discredited by the "crisis actor" theories -- you look like retarded schizos when you altch onto the most improbable, illogical shit-tier theories. History will repeat over and over, because people never learn. Enjoy circle jerking your theories, but never solving any actual mysteries.


What's it like knowing I'm one of the youngest members on this forum, and an OldFag. Most of guys are still NewFags.


Pick between OldFags (Morrakiu):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qRKWI9f8eM

NewsFags (David Icke):
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_EQyeZCZyUM/maxresdefault.jpg

Shami-Amourae
17th June 2016, 11:59 PM
The Flagship of the Alt-Right, The Right Stuff has already done an entire podcast exposing the Crisis Actor thing as a fraud.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?90312-The-Daily-Shoah-89-ALLAHU-GAYBAR


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFjdyJwU76I

PatColo
18th June 2016, 12:14 AM
[SIZE=4]There definitely looked to be demolition explosives planted in the WTC buildings. I don't know who, or how they were done. I'm unsure what happened with the jets that flew into them. They probably were hijacked, and then landed somewhere, and all the people were lined up and shot, then the planes were remotely flown in as a cover for the controlled demolitions. The problem with this is there's so many possibilities that I really don't know what happened. I don't think though that the buildings could have fallen free fall style from just jets flying into them. That's clearly bullshit. I think there was some sort of Mossad/Saudi Arabian connection going. Saudi Arabia is run by Jews in Turbans. I used to cook for them in real life and can confirm they are Jewish as fuck. My co-workers red pilled me on it and explained how they pulled it off. This is what led me into the conspiracy realm.


That was hit by a missile from a video I've seen. No idea where the missile came from, but it surely didn't look like it was hit with a jet.


No idea.


^ interesting. So on your 'jets probably hijacked' part, WHO do you figure were the evildoers who done perpetrated such a dastardly deed?! Arabic moozlems??



The worst thing you can do to a Jew is to name them. Jews are at war with people who notice them. It's a war on noticing.


So you figure they hate when they're identified by goyim; however if they're being simultaneously identified AND mocked/laughed-at by goy, as I do with my "Joo/z" and more recent "Dinjoo/z (Nuffins)" names for them-- then they don't mind that?

If that's ^ what you think, then why did (((ADL & Co))) kvetch so hysterically over the (((echo))) ?! :(?? I don’t see the echo saying the j word!? http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-echo-chrome-browser-and-adl-take.html?

Shami-Amourae
18th June 2016, 12:45 AM
^ interesting. So on your 'jets probably hijacked' part, WHO do you figure were the evildoers who done perpetrated such a dastardly deed?! Arabic moozlems??
You keep trying to label me as believing 9/11 was done by Muslims. No matter what I say, no matter how many times I say it, you will always come back like nothing happened and say "Shami-Shlomostein believes 9/11 was done by scary Mooozlems. Wow, just wow." In a few more posts from this you'll accuse me of believing 9/11 was done by Muslims, and you'll do it tomorrow and the next day. It's your only attack you have on me is to lie about me or misusing memes which you have literally no idea about. Maybe you'll Rick Roll me or something at the next gotcha. You can't win any arguments with me except through flat out lying and misleading people to believe things I don't say/believe.

So here we go again: I think it was Jews + Zionist Cryptos/Whites (your McCain types), and then Jewish "Arabs", like the Saudis. There may have been some underling straight up Muslim patsies if there were real hijackers but I don't know. At the upper levels of government there's a fusion of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It's all run by Jews at the level, since all 3 religions are sand nigger religions. Maybe I should just copy and paste this shit every fucking time you claim I think 9/11 was done by the scary Muslims or whatever retarded name you'll come up from them next time.






So you figure they hate when they're identified by goyim; however if they're being simultaneously identified AND mocked/laughed-at by goy, as I do with my "Joo/z" and more recent "Dinjoo/z (Nuffins)" names for them-- then they don't mind that?

If that's ^ what you think, then why did (((ADL & Co))) kvetch so hysterically over the (((echo))) ?! :(?? I don’t see the echo saying the j word!? http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-echo-chrome-browser-and-adl-take.html?

Why are you asking me this? I was the one who first mentioned it on the forum and brought it to everyone's attention. I was the first to post the Echo generator for the browser extension. You still are claiming I'm a Jew too and trying to use the memes I taught you against me. You don't even know how to use them correctly. Don't use memes unless you spend serious time on /pol/.

Dinjooz is bad since no one knows what it is outside of this forum. You're the only one who uses it. If more people were using it and everyone knew what it meant, I'd be all for it. When I was in college I had a Jewish professor part of my mandatory Diversity training course to graduate. The first day she went over offensive words you should never say. On that list was "Jews". I asked her why that was considered offensive. She smiled and literally said "You're bringing attention to us."

This is also why I stopped using the word Dindu, and just flat out use the word Nigger.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofQe17j49DY

PatColo
18th June 2016, 03:07 AM
Shalomi-a-MEME-me 29th February 2016, 05:18 PM:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?88235-Child-Beheaded-in-Moscow-by-Muslim-Nanny&p=820537&viewfull=1#post820537


Jews and Muslims did it together.

Muslims flew the planes into the buildings, and the Jews planned a controlled demolition to happen right after the planes struck.

Both factions use another thinking they'll get an upper hand ultimately by their alliance.


HUH?!?! :|~

I'm just trying to reconcile all your self righteous kvetching about lying liars and such in your reply #328 above, with your 2/29/16 statement which I've quoted above...:(??

Shami-Amourae
18th June 2016, 04:17 AM
"Shami-Shlomostein believes 9/11 was done by scary Mooozlems. Wow, just wow."

I'll just keep posting this image every time you post this shit.

https://s31.postimg.org/8q234ux1n/6_17_2016_9_49_05_PM.png

You keep trying to twist my words. Fine. Just do that. I know you're a Muslim and it offends you when I speak poorly about Islam. I can just copy and paste over and over if you want to do that. In the 8 years or whatever I've been posting with you guys (GiM+GSUS) I've never had a conflict with anyone but you. I'm always nice to people on the forum, even when I disagree. I virtually never call people names, or use ad-hominem attacks. You call me names, you call me Jew, you harp on this retarded 9/11 issue, and try to twist everything I say.

I posted a very short 2 sentence explanation of what I think probably happened, and I still stand by that and it's still consistent with everything I've said. It says in my posts, all of them I believe Muslims were part of it and Jews were at the head of it. I said in my last above posts it was most likely Muslims flew jets into the WTC, but I also laid out another possibility in a longer post that it was possible that they were done remotely. One was a short (2 sentences,) to the point post, and one was a longer better thought out one. I'm still consistent in both. I don't know what the fuck happened. I have multiple theories on what happened, since I don't know all the information (no one on this forum does.) The most likely scenario is Jews mastermind it, planned it, set up explosives in the building, and some Saudi Muslim guys hijacked a plane and flew into the WTC to line up with that. It's also possible it was done remotely. I don't know. If I don't know I tend to side with the official story more by default.

Why are you so obsessed with this? You're turning into Jewboo with his fetish with Hitch's maple syrup. I really don't give a fuck about this issue.

Shami-Amourae
18th June 2016, 04:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_DZbnzKZm0

osoab
18th June 2016, 05:01 AM
I am of the opinion to keep the thread on track. Granted my opinions only count for piss.

Shami-Amourae
18th June 2016, 05:04 AM
I am of the opinion to keep the thread on track. Granted my opinions only count for piss.

I know. I'll fix it.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/77688840

MEANWHILE IN SWEDEN
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1466/24/1466248230728.jpg


Hhahahaahahahahahhahaha the fools actually did it, they tried to have a Pride parade in a Muslim neighborhood.

First they painted some benches in rainbow colors, and put up some stuff.

It all got burned down.

Then the LGBTQ people returned with the parade, and two got assaulted. Also some cars was set on fire.

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/tva-misshandlades-under-pride-evenemang/
http://www.friatider.se/ung-kvinna-misshandlad-och-bilar-i-brand-under-rissne-pride

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1466248383194.jpg


#NotAllMuslims

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1419/10/1419108013468.gif

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1466/24/1466249166484.jpg (http://www.friatider.se/ung-kvinna-misshandlad-och-bilar-i-brand-under-rissne-pride)

singular_me
18th June 2016, 08:18 AM
this cartoon is freaking hilarious, good find shami


but then the possible next step: Orlando Shooting To Start Another War
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/orlando-shooting-to-start-new-war.html

PatColo
18th June 2016, 09:18 AM
RSJ mocking the AC & actress hug "interview"; looks green screeny but I don't spot any obvious anomalies... I'll watch again looking for those square studio lights in her glasses.

6 mins
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GA4V85qMtjk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA4V85qMtjk

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eta, no studio lights in her glasses that I saw; but it'd be moot even if I did see those lights coz the green screen had them "outside at night time" so "of course they'd need lights on them, duh!" Noticed she kept her head/glasses in AC's direction the whole time; if she'd turned toward the cam any more, we'd've seen those studio lights again.

singular_me
18th June 2016, 09:22 AM
I have to say that when in NYC, I was working with a documentary film maker and when on a shoot to interview people, we never had special lighting equipment because we had a sophisticate film editing software that could fix brightness/contrast/exposure almost instantly.

some very fancy cameras have such features embedded. A software isnt even needed. Having lived in the big apple, I saw numerous times mainstream TV broadcasts shooting on the streets, and never saw any lighting equipment.




just want to point out this video doesn't actually prove it was filmed in a studio. They do often set up lighting or reflectors when filming outdoors. So it is possible that lights are being used to film an outdoor interview.

so I would like to see some anomalies with the back ground or something to be sure

Joshua01
18th June 2016, 09:26 AM
If my son was killed you wouldn't see a smile on my face for even a moment. Ask yourself, does THIS behavior pass the sniff test for you? Forget all the distractions of opinion pieces, talking heads and the MSM. Does this look right to you?

Horn
18th June 2016, 09:38 AM
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/77688840

MEANWHILE IN SWEDEN
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1466/24/1466248230728.jpg



This is why I choose to be a Dirty Muslim, rather than a dirty homo.

I refuse to claim that I am in gay support to stay off the No Fly List.

PatColo
18th June 2016, 11:04 AM
Christine L. Last Sunday, bawling her eyes out though strangely without tears... then her Wheel of Fortune audition tape from some time back... funny stuff. 8 mins


https://youtu.be/z0thCKVuWts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0thCKVuWts


Mike king likes RSJ. http://tomatobubble.com/id1018.html

singular_me
18th June 2016, 11:16 AM
I clicked on patcolo's video and went to the youtube page... tons of materials that are a must watch. really.

like this one:
99.9% Orlando Pulse Shooting Hoax - No real evidence but Tweets, FB Post, Police Helmet Prop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJnJuVfkr1E

midnight rambler
18th June 2016, 11:21 AM
Orlando shooter's wife now missing -

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/17/the-orlando-shooter-reportedly-gave-his-wife-access-to-his-bank/21397563/

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-orlando-shooter-fort-pierce-wednesday-20160615-story.html (http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/17/the-orlando-shooter-reportedly-gave-his-wife-access-to-his-bank/21397563/)

Joshua01
18th June 2016, 11:35 AM
I'm not surprised. LE simply doesn't let critical people in an investigation simply go missing. Part of the scam. She got her flight to Costa Rica to live in her new Villa courtesy of the US taxpayer

midnight rambler
18th June 2016, 11:40 AM
I'm not surprised. LE simply doesn't let critical people in an investigation simply go missing. Part of the scam. She got her flight to Costa Rica to live in her new Villa courtesy of the US taxpayer

If you watch the video in the Sun Sentinel link I posted above you'll see the shooter's father, blow dried hair and all, not being forthright. Something very wrong with that picture.

Glass
18th June 2016, 12:18 PM
Glass: she's playing the part "Christine Leinonen", and is the main focus of this RSJ vid, which also shows a couple images of her & her supposed son, < 8 mins:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V3o_acLkn0I

Her "interview" clips are all over YT, http://youtube.com/results?q=Christine%20Leinonen

Yeah I would have thought some photos of him as a child. A birthday photo. Riding his first bike. Christmas time. The whole family, mum, dad etc. Those would be the precious moments you would reach for aren't they? Not some photo where she looks the age she does now and he doesn't look anything like her.

I think Christ-ine and Christ-opher might be a coincidence. Don't you?

Still not seeing any green screen anomalies. I'm just saying that it's not necessary for there to be a green screen for it to be scripted. I did notice the interviewer is fairly shaded. Also you could see when Christ-ine moved into view, she did seem to move into character, with the sad mouth thing. Almost like the Sandy Hook dad.

Glass
18th June 2016, 12:21 PM
I have to say that when in NYC, I was working with a documentary film maker and when on a shoot to interview people, we never had special lighting equipment because we had a sophisticate film editing software that could fix brightness/contrast/exposure almost instantly.

some very fancy cameras have such features embedded. A software isnt even needed. Having lived in the big apple, I saw numerous times mainstream TV broadcasts shooting on the streets, and never saw any lighting equipment.

Been on set for filming ads myself. Seen news stories to tape and live crosses. I know its not necessary in many situations but it can be done if the situation needs its. Just saying, As I said in reply to Pat, it's not a necessary element to prove hoax. I'd like to see more that suggests green screen is being used.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJnJuVfkr1E
This one is interesting. Remembering that there is other footage of the 2 guys carrying the dude with the leg wound, where they get past the camera and then they put the guy down and the man in black starts flexing his leg and arms because that guy was heavy.

Also I look at that video and I wonder to myself, how did that camera crew get into that position. They are well inside the line of police. You can see the dozens of police cars down the road at the road block. Then there is maybe 1 or 2 cars near the camera and no one else.

how did they get inside that perimeter? Why are they still there? Why hasn't the police moved them back behind the lines for their own safety? Where are the damn police? Why aren't there any police or emergency personnel running out to these injured people to shepherd them to safety?

singular_me
19th June 2016, 10:43 AM
Glass, after this being a hoax fully exposed, sure I'd like to have a confirmation of the greens creen myself. Though, thinking they use one isnt much of a strecth at this stage.


we are being taken for idiots AGAIN

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Media Casually Touring Omar Mateen's Apt 24 Hrs After WORSE mass Shooting
TRUTHstreammedia
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/media-casually-tours-orlando-shooters-apartment-24-hrs-shooting.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nFyV7-UY9w

Horn
19th June 2016, 11:27 AM
Well they all appear to have distinct patterns.. 2 or more shooters seen, second guess from original motives into insanity cases...

then many claims of loss from some uncaring devil worshipping relatives.

osoab
19th June 2016, 03:30 PM
I don't know what to make of the reflections off the glasses.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19YlwQPYEjk&amp;feature=youtu.be
https://youtu.be/19YlwQPYEjk

Horn
19th June 2016, 03:58 PM
I don't know what to make of the reflections off the glasses.


As bright as it is in the background there would have to be some other shodows going on there.

All light is from the face in front.

Horn
19th June 2016, 04:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3o_acLkn0I&amp;app=desktop



this ones best for that

go BIG screen and look at the background behind the dudes nose at 1 minute in

Glass
19th June 2016, 04:44 PM
I don't know what to make of the reflections off the glasses.


To me it looks like 2 lights, 1 large 1 smaller. Remembering it is reflecting off 2 surfaces. So it isn't 4 lights. I still think I need to seem more of that video. Looking at the 1 minute mark and the guys nose in the top left. I can be sure it isn't YT compression artifacts. I'd be looking for whole sections of the 2 people to disappear. Like portions of her hair or parts of their faces, ears etc to be blended out to the back ground.

That video is not long enough. There is only a few seconds in it. The rest is freeze frame and that guy talking. I'm interested in the cop in the back ground. I'd like to see what he is dong while the video is rolling AND to see if other background is moving in ways you would expect.

Another thing I wanted to add, was that she is wearing fallen angel / broken cross earrings.

PatColo
19th June 2016, 09:08 PM
Quote Originally Posted by Norweger View Post
Just read that one of the "survivors" is named Angel Colon. What a mockery.

Sounds like a perfect asshole to me


yep, and he "acts" like one too!! :D

Orlando Shooting Hoax - The Most Amazing Miracle Since Lazarus
4 mins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIr_Kg5LLRw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIr_Kg5LLRw

PatColo
19th June 2016, 09:15 PM
portion of a comment made by someone at realistreport; MLBaseball fans can verify:



I turned a major league baseball game on 20 mins ago and what I saw was sickening. The players all wore a patch above their heart that read Orlando but the worst part was small children were waving little rainbow flags. I think T-Shirt were given away or sold. Either way it’s some sick ass stuff.

PatColo
19th June 2016, 09:41 PM
4 mins
Orlando Shooting Conspiracy FACT Fox News Intern is a Crisis Actor EXPOSED (Redsilverj)
TeamWakeEmUP 12,528 views
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gm5jrGM6bjE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm5jrGM6bjE

Glass
19th June 2016, 10:09 PM
4 mins
Orlando Shooting Conspiracy FACT Fox News Intern is a Crisis Actor EXPOSED (Redsilverj)
TeamWakeEmUP 12,528 views


Please get to the point Mr RedsilverJ. Stop grandstanding and do something about that big ego. geez. Anyway. His 2 second point is the girl has an online Bio where she states she is an Actress and Singer. And yes Snopes is a crap source for anyone looking for the truth. I guess thats good info for people who might wake up due to this event. I hope discolored teeth is not a definitive sign someone is evil. Maybe

thanks Pat.

PatColo
19th June 2016, 10:31 PM
^ I mainly wish RSJ would lose the 20/whatever-second noisy self promo he rubber stamps onto the end of every vid now. Rubber stamp that junk into the YT desc of every vid, ok, but I gotta believe he loses more followers than he gains with his current method. :(

as to snopes, I recall the mid '00s (~10 yrs ago), they had a WTC7 page, labeling the claim that it was CD'd on 911, "False", & cited the laughable NIST report. lol :D

I won't even take the time to look up what they're saying about (skepticim regarding) the plethora of hoaxed shootings/bombings we've had. I'd just as soon check with spook a$$ets like James Shermer, or JREF forum lol.

PatColo
20th June 2016, 04:17 AM
Why Did Government Pass a Law That Makes Staged Hoaxes Legal? 10 mins

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xS-ktfaxPb0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS-ktfaxPb0

singular_me
20th June 2016, 09:22 AM
Florida false flag update: 'Man involved in planned attacks on gays asks police for protection from his CIA handlers'
20 June 2016 GMT

https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Untitled-13.jpg

‘The real truth of the story was released to a former Los Angeles County prosecutor who works for Get Off the BS by two Santa Monica police officers that have been issued gag orders under threat of Federal prosecution for talking further talking about the incident.

According to two department sources, Howell called the Santa Monica police on Sunday morning claiming that he needed protection from the CIA. Howell further elaborated to the dispatcher stating that he “had been set up by the CIA – they are going to kill me.”

According to Howell, he was in LA to meet with another person in a collaborated attack on the gay communities in both Florida and Los Angeles.

Howell additionally stated that, “everything has gone south. Dan was gone when I got here. They killed the leader of the Florida attack this morning. They are going to kill me. I need protection.”

According to sources within the police department’s investigation Howell indicated to officers who first made contact with him that Howell claimed he was one of five people involved in a planned Sunday attack on both the east and west coasts.’

Read more: Florida false flag update: ‘Man involved in planned attacks on gays asks police for protection from his CIA handlers’
http://getoffthebs.com/five-suspects-involved-in-planned-attacks/


‘Before Omar Mateen gunned down 49 patrons at the LGBTQ Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, the FBI attempted to induce his participation in a terror plot. Sheriff Ken Mascara of Florida’s St. Lucie County told the Vero Beach Press Journal that after Mateen threatened a courthouse deputy in 2013 by claiming he could order Al Qaeda operatives to kill his family, the FBI dispatched an informant to “lure Omar into some kind of act and Omar did not bite.”

While self-styled terror experts and former counter-terror officials have criticized the FBI for failing to stop Mateen before he committed a massacre, the new revelation raises the question of whether the FBI played a role in pushing Mateen towards an act of lethal violence.’
http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/omar-mateen-committed-mass-murder-fbi-tried-lure-him-terror-plot


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CASTING CRISIS: Orlando’s Actors, Agents and Casualty Role Players
http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/06/18/casting-crisis-orlandos-actors-agents-and-casualty-role-players/


CIA: no 'direct link' between Orlando shooter and Isis – video
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/jun/16/cia-orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-isis-video?CMP=embed_video

cheka.
20th June 2016, 12:12 PM
i just stopped by to post the same thing. there's a thread on here with some more details about the cali thing.

http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamericayouprobablycantseethisae9.html

Howell stated that he was supposed to "hook up" late Saturday night with his contact in LA who was suppose to have more weapons and chemicals to mix with the Tannerite he was in possession of.

"When I got here, Dan was gone. I went to his apartment and he had cleared out...I tried calling him but he never answered me," said Howell.

My comment: "Dan cleared out" when he found out the CIA killed one of the guys on his team!

When questioned about the other four people involved in the plot, Howell was only familiar with the first names of three of the alleged suspects, naming his contact in LA - Dan and two of the three contacts in Florida, Omar and Brandy

Speaking of the suspect killed in the Pulse Bar massacre in Florida, Howell stated, "Omar was not suppose to be killed. They lied to us - Omar and Brandy were supposed to get away."

When Howell was questioned about how he and his conspirators knew each other, he said that,

"We were all familiar with each other through an online fundamental Islamic knowledge seminary course[1] - we were recruited through the course and trained together at a camp in Virginia - we were taught how to shoot and make bombs - everyone knew their part - something went wrong..."

Before the officers could further question Howell, agents working for the Los Angeles office of the FBI quickly swept in and took over the case. Santa Monica detectives were never allowed to talk with Howell.

In summary, it appears that Howell was on his way to "hook up" with another conspirator (Dan) to set off explosives and shoot people at the gay pride parade in Hollywood California on Sunday.

Finding his contact missing when he got to LA and having heard that Omar Matteen had been killed by a FBI SWAT team in Orlando, Howell determined he had been double crossed by the CIA and feared for his own life.

Howell was taken in to custody by the FBI before Santa Monica police officers could further question him about the motives behind killing gay people on both coasts of the US on Sunday.

However, in absence of further information and or anyone who will officially go on the record, there is no doubt that the American public is not being told the truth about the Orlando Florida shooting and the arrest of Howell on Sunday.

It is a shame that the Fed's got to the Santa Monica police chief on Sunday before she could speak and was silenced, however we are very thankful that at least two officers have risked their jobs and freedom to reveal what she would of most likely Tweeted had the Fed's not got to her.

MY COMMENT: DOES IT WASH?
Well, what are the chances of the police actually miraculously getting a call about a stalker knocking on windows, (as the official lie goes) only to find out he was armed to the teeth, within hours of Mateen dying and connected to Mateen? ZILCH.

This story washes clean, it makes perfect sense, the guy knew the CIA would kill him when they were done with him and CHICKENED OUT. And the MSM then hatched their bullshit.

And I'd also like to add that this just shows what kind of crap people work for the CIA, all was well and he did not care how many people died, as long as it was not his own @ss.

cheka.
20th June 2016, 12:18 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?90293-more-on-the-thwarted-LA-gay-attack&highlight=monica

his bail was at 500k, but then 'special' circumstances were cited to raise it to 2 million

Horn
20th June 2016, 03:47 PM
bail? why would he be interested in bail?

cheka.
20th June 2016, 08:29 PM
bail? why would he be interested in bail?

ha ha. the informative part was the quadrupling to 2mm...for someone that did nothing wrong

PatColo
20th June 2016, 08:51 PM
Sinead McCarthy posted this Mon 6/13, just 1.x day after the "event", pretty funny :)

3.5 mins:
Sinead Investigates the Homocaust in Orlando, FL
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WtOj-TofaSc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtOj-TofaSc

PatColo
21st June 2016, 12:12 AM
latest from Peekay Truth, that Oz dude (channel https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCuQiFhLJ3sJsf3SjJk1cWtw/videos )

Seems they bulloxed one of Angelic StinkHole's balloon props, says "Happy Birthday" lol. And what's Porky doing there on that perfectly photogenic "hospital room" set anyways? Does every injured actor from the O'Homocaust Hoax get their own porky 24/7?

2m 21s
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R3DjN5D4-x4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3DjN5D4-x4

cheka.
21st June 2016, 06:40 AM
nobody saw it coming?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-mosque-omar-mateen-reported-fbi-article-1.2680959

A Muslim man who attended the same mosque as Omar Mateen reported him to the FBI two years before he would commit the worst mass shooting in America

palani
21st June 2016, 07:20 AM
A Muslim man who attended the same mosque as Omar Mateen reported him to the FBI two years before he would commit the worst mass shooting in America

I heard of a vet once who was thinking of suicide. He called the suicide hotline and it was answered by some Arab in Afghanistan. The hotline guy got really excited when told that the vet was suicidal and asked if he could drive a truck.

PatColo
21st June 2016, 03:49 PM
3 most recent at memoryholeblog:


The ‘Zapruder Film’ of the Orlando Mass Shooting Event?
By 'Mark Radziwon' (MHB Commenter) I have been following this event very closely, and am pretty up-to-date on all the videos and ideas that have emerged. First, I believe that the timing of this event - happening precisely the weekend that major US presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and … Continue reading → https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/21/the-zapruder-film-of-the-orlando-mass-shooting-event/
June 21, 2016 25 Replies


San Bernardino ‘Terror Attack’: Did a Major News Company Accidentally ‘Jump the Gun’?
By James F. Tracy Are major Western news media complicit in the staging of so many recent and curious mass shooting and "terrorist attack" events? A simple answer would be "Yes," if only because journalistic outlets collectively (and perhaps intentionally) fail to thoroughly interrogate these … Continue reading → https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/20/san-bernardino-terror-attack-did-a-major-news-outlet-accidentally-jump-the-gun/
June 20, 2016 36 Replies


From Orlando to Charleston – Witnesses ‘Smell the Blood’
Corporate news tout mass shooting events with increasingly gory details alongside no real visual documentation of carnage By Vivian Lee https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/victim-carried-toward-pulse.jpg A “survivor” with no visible injuries, being carried toward the club … Continue reading → https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/19/from-orlando-to-charleston-witnesses-smell-the-blood/

Cebu_4_2
21st June 2016, 04:36 PM
It's all leading to martial law since they can't stop the Trump train... Think about that.

midnight rambler
22nd June 2016, 06:20 AM
(Alleged) Shooter's gay lover says he did shooting for revenge -

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/21/omar-mateen-gay-lover/

Meanwhile the NYC/DC control maintains story that shooter had never visited Pulse nightclub.

mick silver
22nd June 2016, 06:34 AM
Mass Shooting Myth — U.S. Homicide Rate Hits 51-year Low as Gun Ownership Increased 141% Source: Jay Syrmopoulos (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/mass-shooting-myth-u-s-homicide-rate-hits-51-year-gun-ownership-increased-141/)


In the wake of the Orlando nightclub massacre, politicians have attempted to use the tragedy as means of garnering public support for increased gun control measures. Four pieces of knee-jerk gun control legislation were defeated in Congress yesterday, but the debate surrounding gun rights continues unabated.
The new narrative is that “mass shootings,” defined by the FBI as 3 or more people killed in one incident, are at epidemic level and thus require society to increase restrictions on gun ownership as a means of saving lives and lowering the U.S. homicide rate.
However, this narrative flies in the face of reality as the homicide rate in the U.S. is actually at a 51-year low, according to FBI data. The homicide rate in the U.S. for 2014 (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-1), the most recent year available, was 4.5 per 100,000. The 2014 total is part of a long downward trend and is the lowest homicide rate recorded since 1963 (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf) when the rate was 4.6 per 100,000. The last time the homicide rate in the U.S. was lower than it is now was in 1957 when the total homicide rate was 4.0 per 100,000.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/homicide_51yr.jpg
Surprisingly, most Americans are completely unaware of this information, as the media and politicians in the U.S. consistently work to create a circus-like atmosphere surrounding firearms as a means of controlling the fear-based narrative of a public need for additional gun restrictions.
Contrary to what the public has been led to believe; as the homicide rate in the U.S. has fallen to a 51-year low, gun ownership has increased drastically.
According to a report by the Mises Institute (https://mises.org/blog/fbi-us-homicide-rate-51-year-low):

Over a recent 20 year period, the number of new guns in the US that were either manufactured in the US or imported into the US increased 141 percent from 6.6 million new guns in 1994 to 16 million in 2013. That means a gross total of 132 million new guns were added into the US population over that time period.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/guns_manuf.jpg
However one wants to rationalize this information there is one overarching theme – increased access to firearms has not led to a more violent society in the U.S. – and according to the FBI’s data, has actually correlated with a markedly less violent society as indicated by the lowest homicide rate in the past 50 years.
Since the data is so convincingly clear, gun control advocates have now resorted to defining “mass shootings” as a special type of murder, and using the emotion of tragedies like Orlando, as an excuse for further regulate firearms in hopes that peoples’ knee-jerk reactions will overcome data and logic.
“Yes, homicide rates have been going down,” they admit, “but mass shootings are now an epidemic!”This argument fails to acknowledge how absurd it is to attempt to imply that homicides are going up because of mass shootings when there are 49 percent fewer homicides compared to twenty years ago.
This leads us to an interesting question; if the actual goal is to decrease homicides in the U.S., then why would we attempt to abolish the conditions that have strongly correlated with decreasing homicide rates (increased gun ownership) in an attempt to rid a specific variety of homicide that accounts for a very small percentage of the overall homicides in the U.S.?
Regardless of Obama’s claims that “no one wants to take your guns,” there is most certainly an elite-driven agenda that is attempting to slowly regulate guns out of the American public society. The push to further regulate guns isn’t simply about decreasing homicides, as the data clearly reveals an ongoing trend of decreasing homicide rates, which begs the question; if the motive isn’t to decrease homicides, then what is the actual intent of pushing for increased gun control measure?
“When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson


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mick silver
22nd June 2016, 06:45 AM
Before Omar Mateen Committed Mass Murder, The FBI Tried To 'Lure' Him Into A Terror PlotSource: Alternet (http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/omar-mateen-committed-mass-murder-fbi-tried-lure-him-terror-plot)

Before Omar Mateen gunned down 49 patrons at the LGBTQ Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, the FBI attempted to induce his participation in a terror plot. Sheriff Ken Mascara of Florida’s St. Lucie County told the Vero Beach Press Journal (http://www.tcpalm.com/news/special/orlando-shooting/pga-village-residents-question-how-orlando-shooter-went-undetected-35523c28-ee5e-2242-e053-0100007fa-383208751.html) that after Mateen threatened a courthouse deputy in 2013 by claiming he could order Al Qaeda operatives to kill his family, the FBI dispatched an informant to "lure Omar into some kind of act and Omar did not bite."
While self-styled terror experts and former counter-terror officials have criticized the FBI (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/orlando-terrorism-fbi-omar-mateen-213971) for failing to stop Mateen before he committed a massacre, the new revelation raises the question of whether the FBI played a role in shifting his mindset toward an act of violence. All that is known at present is that an FBI informant attempted to push Mateen into agreeing to stage a terror attack in hopes that he would fall into the law enforcement dragnet.
This is the technique the FBI has used to entrap scores of young, often mentally troubled Muslim men and send them to prison for as long as 25 years. As Aviva Stahl reported (http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/fbi-manufacturing-terror-plots-against-jewish-americans-driving-divisions-between) for AlterNet’s Grayzone Project, the FBI recently encouraged an apparently mentally disturbed recent convert to Islam named James Medina to bomb a South Florida synagogue and pledge allegiance to ISIS, a militant group he had no prior affiliation with. Now on trial for planning to commit an act of terror with a weapon of mass destruction, Medina is insisting through his lawyer that he is mentally ill.
Trevor Aaronson, a journalist and author of “Terror Factory: Inside the FBI’s Manufactured War on Terror,” revealed (http://www.motherjones.com/fbi-terrorist) that nearly half of terror cases between 9/11/01 and 2010 involved informants -- many of whom were themselves criminals raking in as much as $100,000 from the FBI. “Is it possible that the FBI is creating the very enemy we fear?” Aaronson wondered.
The revelations of FBI manipulation cast Mateen’s case in a uniquely troubling light. Though he refused to “bite” when an FBI asset attempted to push him into a manufactured plot, he wound up carrying out a real act of spectacular brutality, and allegedly swore loyalty to ISIS in the midst of it. Now the question is whether the FBI was right to pursue Mateen before he could kill, or whether it played an influencing role in shaping his attitude towards politically-motivated violence.
“It looks like it's pretty much standard operating procedure for preliminary inquiries to interview the subject or pitch the person to become an informant and/or plant an undercover or informant close by to see if the person bites on the suggestion,” Coleen Rowley, a former FBI agent and division counsel whose May 2002 memo to the FBI Director exposed some of the FBI’s pre-9/11 failures, told AlterNet. “In the case of Mateen, since he already worked for a security contractor [G4S], he was either too savvy to bite on the pitch or he may have even become indignant that he was targeted in that fashion. These pitches and use of people can backfire.”
To highlight the danger of relying on informants, Rowley pointed to the case of Humam Khalil al-Balawi (https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol.-55-no.-3/the-triple-agent-the-al-qaeda-mole-who-infiltrated-the-cia.html), a Jordanian physician whom the CIA used to gather intelligence on Al Qaeda,. The CIA ignored obvious warning signs like Balawi’s extremist online manifestos and never subjected him to a vetting process. While Balawi claimed to have penetrated Al Qaeda’s inner circle, he was actually exploiting his CIA security clearance to plan a major attack. On December 30, 2009, Balawi strode into Camp Chapman in Khost, Afghanistan, and detonated an explosive vest that killed seven CIA agents and wounded six more -- the deadliest attack on CIA personnel in 25 years.
For his part, Mateen displayed many of the personal vulnerabilities that typify both FBI informants and the fellow Muslims they attempt to ensnare in bogus terror plots. Raised in a troubled home by an abusive mother and an apparently deranged father, Mateen exhibited signs of erratic, violent behavior (http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/news/making-of-a-monster-hints-of-omar-mateens-menace-s/nrh6G/) throughout his life. His ex-wife told (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ex-wife-of-suspected-orlando-shooter-he-beat-me/2016/06/12/8a1963b4-30b8-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html) reporters that he physically abused her and was “unstable and mentally ill.” As he transformed from a chubby adolescent to a burly young man with the help of steroids, he yearned for a career in law enforcement.
Seven months into a job as a prison guard in 2007, Mateen was fired for threatening to bring a gun to class. He settled on a career as a low level security guard for G4S Security Solutions, a global security firm that employed him for nine years. Though Mateen’s applications to two police departments were rejected, he was able to pass a G4S background check and receive several guard assignments. (The world’s third largest private employer, G4S has accumulated a staggering record of human rights abuses (http://www.waronwant.org/g4s), including accusations of child torture (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/04/g4s-complicity-israel-abuse-child-prisoners).)
While the full extent of Mateen’s contact with the FBI is unknown, it is clear that it extended into the realm of planning a bogus terror attack. The question now is whether manipulation by a FBI informant had any impact on Mateen’s deadly decision.
“The FBI should scrutinize the operating procedure where they use undercovers and informants and pitch people to become informants,” said Rowley. “They must recognize that, in this case [with Mateen], it had horrible consequences if it did, in fact, backfire.”





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Neuro
22nd June 2016, 06:54 AM
I think the main reason he dodged the FBI terror plot, was because his handlers at CIA told him they had greater plans for him...

PatColo
22nd June 2016, 07:48 AM
Peekay Truth has been a busy bee-- see these 4 most recent at his channel:



3:45
BOMBSHELL!!! Mainstream Media Busted Changing Times on Orlando Shooting Hoax
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Orlando Hospital Staffers being FORCED to Sign Non-Disclosure Agreements
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Is There Anyone in Orlando Who Can Help Me?
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The Triviality of Terrorism
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find them at https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCuQiFhLJ3sJsf3SjJk1cWtw/videos

mick silver
22nd June 2016, 08:41 AM
Loretta Lynch Admits That Federal Authorities Have Lost The Orlando Shooter's Wife Source: Zero Hedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-21/loretta-lynch-admits-federal-authorities-have-lost-orlando-shooters-wife)

According to CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/us/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen/), Federal investigators are trying to find out more specifically what Omar Mateen's wife, Noor Salman (profiled here (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-14/meet-noor-zahi-salman-orlando-shooters-mysterious-second-wife-knew-his-plans-may-be-)), knew about the planned attack at the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando. The intent is to bring evidence before a federal grand jury to determine whether or not charges will be brought against Salman.
As US Attorney General Loretta Lynch said today, federal authorities are going back and looking at all of the contact with Omar Mateen, as well as those around him in order find out if there is anything that was missed.

AG Loretta Lynch on #OrlandoShooting (https://twitter.com/hashtag/OrlandoShooting?src=hash) gunman: "We're going to go back and look at all of our contact with him" https://t.co/bLFolbaCcK (https://t.co/bLFolbaCcK)
— CNN (@CNN) June 21, 2016 (https://twitter.com/CNN/status/745329652063952896)
However there is one rather large problem with one key person in the investigation, it appears that Noor Salman is missing and may not even be in the state of Florida anymore. In an interview (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-orlando-shooter-fort-pierce-wednesday-20160615-story.html)the Sun Sentinel conducted with Seddique Mateen, the shooter's father, Seddique said that Salman was "not around here."
"If you're looking for Noor, she's not here. I cannot say where she's gone, but she's not around here." Seddique said.
The Sentinel went on to report (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-orlando-shooter-fort-pierce-wednesday-20160615-story.html) that while reporters were outside Seddique's house, St. Lucie County sheriff's deputies arrived, went into the house for a few minutes, and then left without comment.


And perhaps most disturbing of all, according to Breaking911 citing CNN, US Attorney General Loretta Lynch says that she doesn't know if Salman has left the state or not.

Attorney General Loretta Lynch Says She Doesn’t Know if Orlando Shooter’s Wife Has Left the State of Florida -CNN
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 21, 2016 (https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/745347327196536832)
We believe the source to CNN's assertion that Lynch doesn't know where Salman is came from a press conference held today (http://www.msnbc.com/live-online/watch/live-lynch-comments-on-nightclub-shooting-709806147531?cid=sm_tw_msnbc) whereby Lynch said the following in response to an inaudible question: "right now I do not know exactly the answer to that, I believe she was going to travel but I do not know exactly her location now"
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If this is accurate, how it's possible that Noor Salman has given federal authorities the slip is beyond our comprehension. Perhaps the department needs more funding, that always seems to do the trick.

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Cebu_4_2
22nd June 2016, 12:15 PM
PHOTO: Tim Tebow Visits Ex-Teammate Wounded in Orlando Attack






Man Says He Was Omar Mateen's Ex-Lover: Attack Was 'Revenge, Not Terrorism' (http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/21/former-islamist-orlando-attack-was-against-lgbt-community-and-west)








The former Denver Bronco paid a visit to Rodney Sumter Jr., one of his former high school teammates.

Sumter, 27, is recovering after being shot three times in the June 12 attack on the Pulse nightclub, where he worked as a bartender.

Sumter caught passes from Tebow as a wide receiver at Nease High School in Ponte Vedra, Fla.

Sumter went on to play college football at Jacksonville University, while Tebow went on to win two national titles and a Heisman Trophy for the Florida Gators.

"My high school quarterback left the Bahamas to come and see me. Tebow has always been an awesome person," Sumter wrote on Instagram.

Sumter, a father of twin girls, was shot in the back and in both arms as he tried to escape the mass shooting.

A nursing student, Joshua McGill, noticed Sumter lying on the floor and used his shirt as a tourniquet to help slow the bleeding.

With no available ambulance to transport Sumter, McGill laid underneath Sumter in the back of a police car as he was rushed to the hospital.

"The instructions they told me were pretty simple. I had to lay on my back in the backseat. They laid him on top of me, and I had to wrap my arms around him and put pressure on the gunshot wound on his back, and hold him on the way to the ER,” McGill told Action News JAX.

cheka.
22nd June 2016, 03:43 PM
great article here - lots of info and links in one place

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2016/06/orlando-shooting-false-flag.html

Down1
22nd June 2016, 05:42 PM
Sheeeeeeeit !
She done be losted now.
Where she be at ?

Glass
22nd June 2016, 07:51 PM
Sheeeeeeeit !
She done be losted now.
Where she be at ?

Easy to lose something that never existed

PatColo
22nd June 2016, 08:40 PM
fresh off the peekay press, 17m:

Orlando Shooting Official Story is Nothing But a Pile of COW DUNG
32 views
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9DMhNPEbPOc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DMhNPEbPOc

PatColo
23rd June 2016, 05:47 AM
couple more new ones from Peekay Truth... I'm not aware of another investigative youtuber who's so prolific in bringing the O'Homocaust anomalies to light-- maybe RedSilverJ,
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCqRScKbESN0th-TdlmaQ6oQ/videos
but Peekay's turned out way more Homohoax vids than RSJ. Another one is Jeff C of "New World Agenda" channel;
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC9vrYkPaH1D60jr4jwGDIlg/videos
but his vids are more roundtable discussion based, not short & to the point anomaly clips like Peekay's.

2nd one appears to be a summary of hospital anomalies, more of a mini-docu, haven't watched yet.



3:53
SpotCrime (Crime Website) Has NO Record of USA's Biggest Gun Massacre in History on 12th June 2016
790 views
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vvsljhmWglw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvsljhmWglw

28:45
Something Stinks to High Heaven at the ORMC (Orlando Regional Medical Center)
746 views
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cU1x80yc-wQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU1x80yc-wQ

mick silver
23rd June 2016, 08:08 AM
Orlando Shooter Spent Final Days Obsessing Over Psychotropic Drugs — Feds Suppressed This Info Source: Matt Agorist (http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/orlando-shooter-psychotropic-drugs-feds-suppressed.html)

The deranged psychopath responsible for the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history may have been on dangerous psychotropic drugs according to a report (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-mateen-idUSKCN0Z82LH) out of Reuters on Thursday. What’s more, government officials knew this information but told a witness to not to say anything about it.
In their mad rush to use this tragedy further the American police and warfare state, the federal government has been steering the narrative to further their own agenda — truth and facts be damned.
Last week, we reported that Marco Diaz (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi-tells-orlando-shooters-ex-wife-u-s-media-mateen-gay/), the current fiancé of Orlando shooter Omar Mateen’s former wife Sitora Yusufiy, told Brazilian television station SBT Brazil (http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/FBI-Told-Orlando-Shooters-Wife-Not-to-Tell-US-Media-He-Was-Gay-20160616-0002.html) that Yusufiy believed Mateen was gay and that she had witnessed Mateen’s father call him gay several times, but that “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.”
Yesterday, we reported on a man claiming to be Mateen’s lover (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/47835-2/), who explained the reason for the shooting was not based on Islamic fundamentalism, but rather a form of “revenge.”
Now, we are finding out that investigators had knowledge Mateen could have been on psychotropic medication, knew it was affecting him, and chose to cover it up.
Speaking with anonymity to Reuters, an acquaintance, who frequently ran into Mateen at work, said they watched him drastically change just prior to the shooting. According to the source, who saw Mateen the day of the shooting, he dramatically changed his appearance that fateful day. Mateen shaved his head and face and seemed agitated and surly just before he went on a killing spree.
But that is not all; the acquaintance said that Mateen was infatuated with anti-psychosis medication in the days before the shooting. Mateen told the acquaintance that he was tired from staying up all night researching the drugs.
According to the report in Reuters, the acquaintance passed the gate where Mateen worked as a security guard for years, and the two became friendly, making small talk several times a week.
About three weeks before the attack, he noticed Mateen seemed agitated and asked him if he was all right, according to the report. (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-mateen-idUSKCN0Z82LH) Mateen said he was worn out from staying up all night to research psychiatric medication, although he did not say he was taking specific drugs.
“He’d been real worried about whether or not he’d slipped into psychosis,” the acquaintance said. “He wasn’t as friendly. He was obsessed with researching medication online.”
“The last month, he looked worried, he looked upset, he looked confused,” the acquaintance said. “He didn’t seem himself.”
Approximately 18 hours before Mateen would walk into Pulse nightclub, the acquaintance would see him for the last time. In the early morning hours of June 12, the acquaintance drove up to the gate, but Mateen was not there.
After waiting for a few minutes, Mateen finally appeared — silent, with a transformed look, shaved head and face, and without his glasses.
When the acquaintance asked if he was okay, the usually polite Mateen responded, “What’s it to you, anyway?”
As Clinton, Trump, and the rest of the blowhards in Washington use this tragedy to push for gun control and more war, they are grossly misleading the public.
As Jay Syrmopoulos pointed out this week, the U.S. homicide rate has hit a 51-year low as gun ownership has increased 141% over that same period. America does not have a gun problem — however, we most certainly have a drug problem.
To discount Mateen’s potential use of anti-psychotic drugs would be grossly irresponsible.
Suicide, birth defects, heart problems, hostility, violence, aggression, hallucinations, self-harm, delusional thinking, homicidal ideation, and death are just a few of the side effects caused by the medication Mateen was researching.
There have been 150 studies (http://www.cchrint.org/psychiatric-drugs/antidepressantsideeffects/) in seventeen countries on antidepressant-induced side effects. There have been 134 drug regulatory agency warnings (http://www.cchrint.org/psychiatric-drugs/antidepressantsideeffects/) from eleven countries and the EU warning about the dangerous side effects of antidepressants.
Despite this deadly laundry list of potential reactions to these medications, the use of antidepressants has skyrocketed by 400% since 1988. (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db76.htm)
Currently, 11 percent of all Americans 12 years of age and over (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db76.htm) take antidepressant medication, this is a higher rate than all other countries in the world.
There are most certainly people of all ages that can benefit from certain prescription medication. However, the most worrisome aspect of Mateen’s ties to anti-psychotic medication is that the majority of mass shooters in recent U.S. history have links to these same meds.
This is not some conspiracy theory either. The side-effects listed by the drug companies themselves include delusional thinking, suicide, and homicidal ideation.
One single psychiatric medication prescribed to help people quit smoking has been tied to an epidemic of aggression and suicide.
In only five years, 544 suicides and 1,869 attempted suicides were reported to the FDA as “adverse events” in connection with the drug Chantix, according to documents (http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/america-tonight-blog/2013/11/21/fda-anti-smokingdrugchantixlinkedtomorethan500suicides.html ) obtained by America Tonight under the Freedom of Information Act.
The website SSRIstories.org (https://ssristories.org/) has also been documenting the link between selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) and violence. On the site is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.
As the establishment continues to scramble for a narrative on the Orlando shooting that fits their agenda, a very severe potential cause for this man snapping and murdering people is not only being ignored, it is being actively suppressed.


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Glass
25th June 2016, 05:45 AM
This is an interesting read on the Orlando events.

http://rosettedelacroix.com/?p=2040

was it actually a ritual slaughter event, covered up as a lone gunman shooter? makes interesting reading, also considering the Friday the 13th event at the Eagles of DM concert. We saw what were apparently dead bodies that had been dragged all over the place. Perhaps it did happen but was a satanic ritual slaughter/sacrifice.

This is a weird photo
http://rosettedelacroix.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/angel-colon-300x169.png

Remembering he was shot in the hand and miraculously it healed in just 3 days. Perhaps it was a knife cut? If an injury at all.


I AM
I AM is the phrase used by the Satanists, Aleister Crowley and the Masons. From the Mason’s book, Morals and Dogma, it says, “I AM the First, and I AM the Last; and besides Me there is no other God. I AM Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last. I AM Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, which IS and WAS, and IS to come; the Omnipotent.”
Crowley’s character LAM, is really code for I AM… HE is THE WAY, HE is THE PATH….

cheka.
27th June 2016, 07:50 AM
couple of videos at link

http://yournewswire.com/orlando-smoking-gun-nobody-died-until-the-swat-team-entered/

Orlando Smoking Gun: Nobody Died Until The SWAT Team Entered

Posted on June 26, 2016 by Baxter Dmitry

Judge Andrew Napolitano has appeared on national TV and said that the official FBI transcript summary of the Orlando shooting shows that nobody in the Pulse nightclub died until 5:13am, throwing the official narrative peddled by the mainstream media into disarray.

According to the official narrative, Omar Mateen entered the club around 02:00am and began his killing spree. However, as Judge Andrew Napolitano points out in the video below, that story doesnt tally with what the FBI have in their official transcript summary.

“Here’s what is news in the summary – nobody died until 05:13 in the morning, when the SWAT team entered. Prior to that no one had been killed. The 53 that were injured, and the 49 that were murdered all met their fates at the time of, and during, the police entry into the building,” Judge Napolitano said.

This could be the smoking gun which unravels this entire mystery. Why has the FBI issued gag orders to local police, fire, and emergency medical personnel? Why has the 911 audio and emergency scanner archives between the hours of 12:00am and 03:00am EST been erased or physically requisitioned by the FBI?

Horn
27th June 2016, 11:02 AM
by the size of the holes in the back wall, its hard not to believe at least half of the casualties were caused by those blasts.

Why? cause no fool can hit that many people with a AR-15

cheka.
27th June 2016, 09:00 PM
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/06.16/schmoozed.html

How close was presumed killer Omar Mateen to the bizarre world of Washington politics?

Close enough to raise your hackles about what is really going on.

Mateen’s father, Seddique Mateen, apparently visits the Capitol frequently, take pictures in front of the State Department and White House press room, and likes to pose with Congressmen, especially from the Foreign Affairs Committee.

There are also rumors, though they are unconfirmed, that Seddique Mateen has also met with President Obama.

His activity at the State Department and Foreign Affairs Committee also suggest possible liaisons with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and current Secretary of State John Kerry, along with other U.S. politicians.


more at link, including pics of dad with multiple dc criminals.....

singular_me
1st July 2016, 11:17 AM
truth better than fiction AGAIN???

the article is long, have no time to read it right now.

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Failed Trump Assassin Michael Sandford Trained With Omar Mateen
1 July 2016 GMT

Recent information has come to light stemming from a recent Fox News Story and interview with James Wesley Howell, that links Omar Mateen, James Wesley Howell and Michael Sandford as members of a large U.S. terror organization that targets emotionally troubled young men and women to commit terrorist acts in the U.S.

Preceding the police shooting of Mateen in Orlando Florida and the arrest of Howell in Santa Monica prior to his participation in a planned attack on the Gay Pride Parade in Hollywood California, Get off the BS learned and reported that both Mateen and Howell had been recruited though an online social media course dubbed, “Fundamental Islamic Knowledge Seminary” course.’
http://getoffthebs.com/fbi-agents-posing-as-islamic-terrorists/
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What Are They Hiding? FBI Tells Florida Cops To Deny Public Records Requests On Orlando Attack
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/fbi-tells-florida-cops-to-deny-public-records-requests-on-orlando-shooting.html

PatColo
1st July 2016, 07:50 PM
too many new O'Homohoax vids at Peekay Truth's site to list, check it at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuQiFhLJ3sJsf3SjJk1cWtw/videos

and last James Tracy show, guest is the youtuber who called the "angelic colon" actor which there's another gsus thread about:



June 29, 2016 (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/29/its-a-staged-terror-world-after-all/)
It’s a Staged Terror World After All 29 (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/29/its-a-staged-terror-world-after-all/#comments)

by MHB Administrator (https://memoryholeblog.com/author/truthgulag/) • Home (https://memoryholeblog.com/category/home/), Interviews (https://memoryholeblog.com/category/interviews/), podcast (https://memoryholeblog.com/category/interviews/podcast/) • Tags: alternative media (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/alternative-media/), false flag terror (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/false-flag-terror/), FBI (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/fbi/), HONR Network (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/honr-network/), HowISee the World (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/howisee-the-world/), Lenny Pozner (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/lenny-pozner/), news media analysis (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/news-media-analysis/), Orlando mass shooting (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/orlando-mass-shooting/), police state and civil rights (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/police-state-and-civil-rights/), propaganda (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/propaganda/), terrorism

https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/robin-histw.png?w=149&h=150
(https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/terrorism/)
Citizen journalist Robin from Honr.info (http://honr.info) and YouTube channel HowISee the World (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC85FErR-Kn_IX-xrpBpIkMQ) joins James this week to discuss the Orlando mass shooting event and other related “terrorist” narratives now commonplace in the corporate media terrain.

Robin’s online research and analysis of such poorly-understood incidents suggest how easy it should be for journalists and news organizations to examine the storylines presented by government agencies and spokespersons. Over the past several years he has made dozens of recorded calls to the very official parties whose feet need to be held to the fire, including the FBI and medical personnel, yet who are rarely held to account in any meaningful way by salaried reporters.

Podcast: Download (https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/6-27-16-robin-of-howisee-the-world-its-a-staged-terror-world-after-all-6_26_16-1-44-pm.mp3)| (Duration: 59:59 – 27MB)

Robin’s activities have unsurprisingly made him a target for harassment and numerous bogus copyright infringement claims from those directly involved in such events His Honr.info site is especially designed to direct inquisitive minds to some of the most informative research on the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre, which he argues was designed to undermine the Second Amendment.

https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/29/its-a-staged-terror-world-after-all/




check his YT channel too; many vids questioning many things! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC85FErR-Kn_IX-xrpBpIkMQ/videos

cheka.
2nd July 2016, 04:03 PM
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2016/07/02/why-pulse-nightclub-shooter-never-ided-himself-as-omar-mateen-lawyers-told-him-not-to/#more-38060

Do you want the real smoking gun from the Pulse nightclub shooting? Do you want to know why the Justice Department and even President Obama himself are asking a Florida judge to deny the release of the 911 and negotiation audio files from that night?

The answer to those questions is hidden in the text of the FBI release from June 20th, 2016 (found in JPEG format at end of article).

And it’s the most startlingly obvious confession through omission that I have ever seen. It’s so obvious, I’m disappointed I didn’t see it sooner.

It has been reported that Omar Mateen sent his wife a text or two during the standoff somewhere around 4am. He said “do you see what is going on?’ It is reported that she said she loved him. Also reported is the fact that she tried to call him on that same phone, but he refused to answer. Apparently at no point did he describe himself to her during the texts as “Omar Mateen”. The texts coming from his phone were identification enough.

And he didn’t answer the phone when she called.

Why wouldn’t he pick up the phone? He was calling everyone else that night from 911 to the cops to a local TV station. So why not his wife when she called?

Because of all four of those potential conversation partners, she’s the only one who would have recognized his voice.

His voice by the way, is a matter of public record thanks to that documentary he was in. That’s probably why it’s so important for certain folks to keep the audio files of it from public scrutiny.

But that’s not the smoking gun. This is:

TV reporter: he said “Do you know about the shooting? It’s me… The shooter… blah blah blah (in “Arabic”)… I did it for “ISIS””
911 call: “My name is I pledge allegiance to {whatever}“
Crisis negotiator: “In these calls, the shooter, who identified himself as “an Islamic soldier”“

He never says his name is “Omar Mateen”

Why is that? (psst… because the lawyers told him not to…)

Because we know by now based on the efforts to keep the audio files from public scrutiny it probably wasn’t Omar Mateen and that opens up a huge can of legal worms which SOMEBODY was paying close attention to.

Follow me on this: if someone calls pretending to be “the shooter” and gives some fake info (like bombs in cars outside and suicide vests) during a standoff, what is the max penalty for that?

It can also be written off as some crackpot just trying to be important for the day or some Islamaphobe trying to gin up some hate to make his day go better.

There are a lot of ways out of that problem if the audio track is released and someone tracks the call down to a different location than the Pulse nightclub.

Even if someone is found to have made those calls, what is the actual penalty? Someone saw the news and played a prank. Easily whitewashed with the right prank calling patsy.

Now. What happens if the caller doesn’t identify himself in generic terms? What happens if he says “I’m “OMAR MATEEN”

What happens then?

No one knows who Omar Mateen is. No one is supposed to know who the shooter is in the Pulse nightclub.

So if someone with a different voice makes these calls and they get out to the public and people know it’s not Omar Mateen, but the guy said he was “Omar Mateen” hours before anyone could have known that name…

Then what is that person facing in terms of criminal charges?

Conspiracy to commit murder?

Terrorism?

Mass murder?

He would have to be because he knew the name of the assailant BEFORE the crime ergo, he had to have knowledge of the crime BEFORE the crime. And that makes him an accessory to terrorism and mass murder.

That’s why he never picked up the phone when his wife called.

That’s why he never identified himself to ANYONE as “OMAR MATEEN”

Plausible deniability.

Someone with a really good legal team helped script this event. That’s for sure.

And that’s the smoking gun: his name. It’s as simple as that.

UPDATE: As they still search for a plausible motive for this American Gladio event, consider this: if it was Mateen and he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, wouldn’t he want people to know who it was that did it? Isn’t that always the M.O. of the mass casualty shooter? That he want’s the attention, the recognition, to live forever in history? Isn’t that part of the psychosis? So why wouldn’t that kind of suspect reveal his name? It doesn’t make sense. And if it doesn’t make sense, like so many of the American Gladio events don’t, something is wrong with the official story.

UPDATE 2: As was the case in the San Bernadino shooting event, we have a suspect who was doing what he (they) would naturally do in the course of their lives (in his case, going to the gay nightclub, in theirs, attending a social work function with friends and co-workers) who then leaves that event for a couple hours, only to return and open fire for no apparent reason. In the case of San Bernadino, witnesses describe the small brown couple as “three large white men” and in the case of the Pulse shooting, witnesses say there were several people involved, not just one.

I think the leaving and coming back to launch the attack is important. I think these individuals were tracked to a location, someone planned the timing of it all because they had access to their phone communications or emails or social media outlets, and when they left, they were rounded up, gotten out of the way and made ready for their presentation later after the mass casualty event ended.

In the case of San Bernadino, someone was driving the two in a vehicle practically begging cops to follow behind them until that person stopped the car at what appears to have a predetermined location and then fled the vehicle, never to be mentioned again leaving the couple to get shot-up by authorities.

In my best case guess as to what happened at the Pulse nightclub, Mateen left 2 hours prior to the event, someone came back around 2am, crept around to the back, went in one side door, other doors were held closed, started shooting and chased folks out of the club and then came back in and retreated to the bathroom. That would have provided plenty of time for someone to bring a disabled Omar in from the back door and dump him in the bathroom on the floor in front of the stall (as many reported happened to one guy) only to be shot dead by the assailant.

I think the reason they couldn’t get the story straight as to which bathroom the shooter was in is because he wasn’t in either.

Whatever you think of that theory, in my opinion, two things really stand out in this story: the fact that he never says he’s Omar Mateen and those two hours the feds have to admit Omar left the club. They are damning to the official story like the laws of physics are to the official story of 9/11.

PatColo
2nd July 2016, 10:33 PM
8 mins,
Orlando Shooting HOAX UPDATE Money+ False Flag Agenda Exposed (Redsilverj)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB5V63gx5C0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB5V63gx5C0

PatColo
4th July 2016, 02:16 AM
a Peekay flurry past 2 days,


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ylsq0p1y1SM/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=196&h=110&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=fFrTUNd51AEkjSIYbI8giYY_pEk
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylsq0p1y1SM) 4:41
The Movements of Orlando Shooting's No. 1 Crisis Acting Fraud (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylsq0p1y1SM)



234 views
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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu0Pwlgd6uM) 1:52
Central Park Bomb Victim...They Never Learnt From Boston (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu0Pwlgd6uM)

472 views
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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGXqkUcUIU) 8:22
Orlando Shooting Hoax - What in Blazes is Going on Here? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGXqkUcUIU)

813 views
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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWUgQ760s6I) 2:04
Orlando Shooting Hoax's Christopher Hansen BUSTED Taking Cues In Interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWUgQ760s6I)

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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZCxSUmmDSw) 12:05
Orlando Shooting Hoax - More Crisis Actors Contradicting Official Story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZCxSUmmDSw)



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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZS4O7mfx2A) 1:27
The Best and Funniest Orlando Shooting Hoax Video On Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZS4O7mfx2A)

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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZp2oWMVwlU) 2:23
Orlando Shooting Hoax - Surely This Is Impossible If This Event Was Real (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZp2oWMVwlU)

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PatColo
4th July 2016, 09:25 AM
2m 25s:
4 Gun Control Measures Fail in Senate - What it Means (Redsilverj) (http://whoolisblog.blogspot.com/2016/07/4-gun-control-measures-fail-in-senate.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip449866VbA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip449866VbA

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip449866VbA)6m 34s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAftKgyL040
*Every Gun Control Argument For Orlando Shooting HOAX DEBUNKED (Redsilverj)
(http://whoolisblog.blogspot.com/2016/06/every-gun-control-argument-for-orlando.html)

PatColo
5th July 2016, 01:49 AM
couple more Peekays; nails AJ/infowhores asses for pretending the O'Homohoax was real...



https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U_Lj2Piwou8/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=196&h=110&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=bL0g6NdIqtBIfrXDqLsOkGOuvhs
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Lj2Piwou8) 5:34
Truth Bomb Hits Alex Jones and his Orlando Lies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Lj2Piwou8)

2,167 views
5 hours ago





https://i.ytimg.com/vi/n-qbnVWAuU0/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=196&h=110&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=sPmlfAuHB3yYb8YiIlWdfzeTHtE
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qbnVWAuU0) 3:53
From Boston to Orlando With a Flag and a Hat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qbnVWAuU0)

1,400 views
6 hours ago

cheka.
7th July 2016, 08:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRvfEePBmPY

singular_me
8th July 2016, 08:19 AM
hard to believe anything we hear about any shooting/bombing after this one
-------------------------

Media Mockery - Man Who Died in Three ‘Terror Tragedies’ Still Alive
8 July 2016 GMT

‘The new revelations concerning a man known only as Alfonso, were first published at the international news agency France 24.

Alfonso was said to have died and rumored to have died, in the EgyptAir crash, the Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting and Istanbul’s Atatürk Airport, from a combination of reports and posts now believed to be untrue.

This story comes after all three terror related incidents presented a number of questions that have still gone unanswered by officials. 21WIRE covered the thread of these highly suspicious events here, here and here, with in-depth analysis revealing a host of anomalies in the aftermath of each event.’

http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/35FCE2B000000578-3676217-Pranked_Alfonso_real_name_unknown_whose-m-28_1467770119046.jpg
‘MEET ‘ALFONSO’ FROM MEXICO?’ – Images of the man pictured above made the rounds on major media outlets and social media posts immediately after the EgyptAir crash, the Orlando Pulse shooting attack and the again after the heavily coordinated attack in Istanbul.

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/07/07/media-mockery-man-who-died-in-three-terror-tragedies-still-alive/

singular_me
8th July 2016, 08:22 AM
lol... they could have at least given her a teleprompter.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRvfEePBmPY

Joshua01
8th July 2016, 08:29 AM
lol... they could have at least given her a teleprompter.

They all look the same to me

PatColo
2nd August 2016, 04:37 PM
Peekay's YOUTUBE channel has been terminated (http://whoolisblog.blogspot.com/2016/08/peekays-youtube-channel-has-been.html)

10 mins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePaSLcLFHx8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePaSLcLFHx8

Shami-Amourae
11th August 2016, 10:41 PM
Down at the Pulse Night Club:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he_85jNvM2E

Check out all the holographic Crisis Actor Memorials.

cheka.
11th August 2016, 11:00 PM
the doctor of caumin sents....how do you explain the duals from nyc media covering for rad iz terror? answer - it's their boys doing it. the battlefields are being extended from the middle east into western countries via muzzy ops

too much focus on if/how these things happen --- it's much more important to diagnosis the who. hoax or no hoax is secondary - either way, hunting down those behind the operation is the most important task

PatColo
28th August 2016, 10:14 AM
memoryholeblog.com; looks like Angelic Colon's shot up ass gets to skate on the bill... :D



August 28, 2016 (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/08/28/orlando-hospitals-wont-charge-pulse-nightclub-shooting-victims-for-services/)
Orlando Hospitals Won’t Charge Pulse Nightclub Shooting Victims For Services (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/08/28/orlando-hospitals-wont-charge-pulse-nightclub-shooting-victims-for-services/) 12 (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/08/28/orlando-hospitals-wont-charge-pulse-nightclub-shooting-victims-for-services/#comments)

by MHB Administrator (https://memoryholeblog.com/author/truthgulag/) • Home (https://memoryholeblog.com/category/home/), News (https://memoryholeblog.com/category/news/) • Tags: false flag terror (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/false-flag-terror/), Orlando mass shooting (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/orlando-mass-shooting/), Pulse Nightclub (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/pulse-nightclub/)

One provider even foregoes insurance reimbursement

https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/orlando-victim-being-carried-away.jpg?w=474

Pulse Nightclub shooting victim being carried to scene of crime on June 12, 2016

The Orlando Sentinel reports (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-health-wont-bill-pulse-victims-20160824-story.html):

Orlando Health and Florida Hospital will not bill survivors of the Pulse nightclub massacre for out-of-pocket medical expenses, officials announced Wednesday.
Instead, the hospitals will write off an estimated $5.5 million or more in care.

“The pulse shooting was a horrendous tragedy for the victims, their families and our entire community,” Orlando Health President and CEO David Strong said. “During this very trying time, many organizations, individuals and charities have reached out to Orlando Health to show their support. This is simply our way of paying that kindness forward.”

MORE… (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/08/28/orlando-hospitals-wont-charge-pulse-nightclub-shooting-victims-for-services/#more-33714)

cheka.
30th August 2016, 04:22 PM
shooter wife has israeli ties

http://www.timesofisrael.com/orlando-gunmans-wife-has-palestinian-roots-was-married-before-in-west-bank/

Orlando gunman’s wife has Palestinian roots, was married before in West Bank

Noor Zahi Salman’s parents listed as being born in ‘Palestine’; police believe she knew about the plot ahead of time

Horn
30th August 2016, 11:53 PM
Down at the Pulse Night Club:


Check out all the holographic Crisis Actor Memorials.

That's alot of crisis actor memorials, not holographic

Down1
16th January 2017, 09:52 AM
Wifey was busted today.

FBI agents from the bureau's San Francisco field office picked up Noor Salman outside her California home, the law enforcement sources said. Included in the charges against her, according to these sources, will be at least one count of obstruction. More charges are expected.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/16/fbi-reportedly-arrests-wife-orlando-nightclub-killer-omar-mateen.html


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/16/fbi-reportedly-arrests-wife-orlando-nightclub-killer-omar-mateen.html

Down1
27th January 2017, 04:38 PM
Wife of a man accused of aiding San Bernardino shooters who killed 14 people admits her marriage is a sham
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4162396/Wife-man-tied-terror-attack-admits-marriage-sham.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4162396/Wife-man-tied-terror-attack-admits-marriage-sham.html

PatColo
27th January 2017, 09:15 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4162396/Wife-man-tied-terror-attack-admits-marriage-sham.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4162396/Wife-man-tied-terror-attack-admits-marriage-sham.html


you're getting your Operation Gladio B (https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio/B) FF/hoaxed "ter'st shoot'em ups" mixed up-- I know, easy to do, with so many of them. :(??

but the above belongs in the san bernardino hoax thread.

Down1
28th January 2017, 07:27 AM
Oops.