Hillary Clinton Opens Up Double-Digit Lead on Trump in New Poll

[Cebu_4_2]

A new national poll from Bloomberg shows Hillary Clinton holding a 12-point lead on Donald Trump.

The former First Lady, after officially clinching the Democratic nomination and gaining the endorsement of President Obama, garnered 49 percent support in the survey, with Trump at 37 percent and libertarian candidate Gary Johnson picking up nine percent. Only four percent said they were undecided.

The poll of likely voters, taken from June 10-13, found that 55 percent of respondents said they would "never" vote for the presumptive GOP nominee, with 43 percent expressing that negative sentiment about Clinton.

Bloomberg said that it added additional questions on terrorism and gun control on June 13, after the Orlando terror attack.

Trump outperformed Clinton by a margin of 45 to 41 percent on the question of which candidate a voter would have more confidence in if a terror attack similar to the one in Orlando unfolded a year from now.

Trump also edged Clinton by five points on a question about whether the phrase "would combat terrorist threats at home and abroad" better describes Trump or Clinton.

Americans remain evenly divided on whether there should be a ban on the sales of "semiautomatic or automatic rifles" to civilians, with 50 percent opposing such a ban and 48 percent supporting it.

Bloomberg said this telephone survey was the first major poll taken "since the mass shooting, heightened furor over Trump's statements about the judge, and Clinton’s June primary victories in California and other states that cemented her status as the presumptive Democratic nominee."

Heather Childers discussed the new numbers with Fox News political experts Joe Trippi and Ed Rollins.

Ed Rollins said that Trump's "unfavorable" ratings - which reached 70 percent in a recent ABC News-Washington Post poll - are unprecedented in modern politics.

"I've never seen that number in my 50 years in politics. He clearly has to get that down. At the end of the day if people don't like you, they're not gonna vote for you," said Rollins.

He also noted that Trump is losing some support among men, which has been his major advantage over Clinton. Rollins said Trump's numbers could improve in upcoming polls taken after the Orlando terror attack.

Trippi said Trump "tends to overstep" on some of his arguments and that could be turning off voters. He noted that this is only one poll and could be an aberration or signal "real trouble" for Trump.

Watch the America's Newsroom discussion above.

[Joshua01]

I've said this before...polls mean shit. They're manipulated and are only a weapon used by the MSM to project falsehoods to the people

[mamboni]

I don't believe it. There is no enthusiasm for Hilldebeast amongst the women. Trump will win by a landslide. In the end, many will pull for Trump because security trumps all other concerns that women have.

[Joshua01]

I don't believe it. There is no enthusiasm for Hilldebeast amongst the women. Trump will win by a landslide. In the end, many will pull for Trump because security trumps all other concerns that women have.

I'd agree with you except for one thing. Voting is just as rigged as polls are. If you think we can believe in the voting process the way it is today you're sadly mistaken IMHO. Once they went all electronic voting machines the game was over

[Half Sense]

Bloomberg poll is all we need to know.

[Ares]

It's why the establishment (democrats in particular) fight tooth and nail against Voter ID laws. It makes rigging a little more complicated if the district shows 500 people voted but there are 22,000 votes that were "counted".

Voting would be the PREFECT avenue for block chain technology. Cannot fake the vote, cannot switch the vote, and cannot vote without a unique ID.

[collector]

let's have a REAL poll. Both candidates should hold a rally in the same state - free admission, side by side network coverage with the same camera angles including wide panning.
Shillary and Trump can negotiate and choose the location

[Ares]

let's have a REAL poll. Both candidates should hold a rally in the same state - free admission, side by side network coverage with the same camera angles including wide panning.
Shillary and Trump can negotiate and choose the location

For large states like California, New York, ect. It's unfeasible to have millions of people attending the same venue to cast a ballot. Congress, if it actually followed the constitution would be the size of a stadium (20,000 representatives if I can remember correctly). But instead they capped it at a little over 400. We no longer have representation. 400 people cannot possibly represent 300,000,0000.

[mamboni]

I'd agree with you except for one thing. Voting is just as rigged as polls are. If you think we can believe in the voting process the way it is today you're sadly mistaken IMHO. Once they went all electronic voting machines the game was overI share your concern.

[Dogman]

I vote to return to paper ballets.

For dam sure do not trust the electronic ones..unless a paper hard copy is generated at the same time, and the paper is compaired to the electronic vote. If so with such a system, get rid of the electronic votes and machines and keep the paper hard copy. One for the voter and another one for counting, then the voter can Prove who and what they voted for, if any issues come up later.

But that still seems to not help as long as the popular vote is not counted, and delegates can choice their own candidates..

One very nice thing this election cycle is that popular vote vs what the delegates really do has been totally exposed by the msm this time.

Now the question is will the sheep , take notice...Think not because of the personal bubble we all live in, some more so than others. The vast majority think no farther than family/friends and jobs and care less abt who is in office as long as it does not effect them. They are who L.B.J called back in the time the "Silent majority" that do not vote. So the smaller percentage of active ones do vote. Which has gotten us in this total cluster fuck we have today..

Mi Dos Centavos.

[Alex Drone]

I don't know why you guys follow this type of stuff. If you don't know by now that presidents are controlled puppets, then I don't know what to say.

[Ares]

I vote to return to paper ballets.

For dam sure do not trust the electronic ones..unless a paper hard copy is generated at the same time, and the paper is compaired to the electronic vote. If so with such a system, get rid of the electronic votes and machines and keep the paper hard copy. One for the voter and another one for counting, then the voter can Prove who and what they voted for, if any issues come up later.

But that still seems to not help as long as the popular vote is not counted, and delegates can choice their own candidates..

One very nice thing this election cycle is that popular vote vs what the delegates really do has been totally exposed by the msm this time.

Now the question is will the sheep , take notice...Think not because of the personal bubble we all live in, some more so than others. The vast majority think no farther than family/friends and jobs and care less abt who is in office as long as it does not effect them. They are who L.B.J called back in the time the "Silent majority" that do not vote. So the smaller percentage of active ones do vote. Which has gotten us in this total cluster fuck we have today..

Mi Dos Centavos.

Why I suggested voting by Blockchain. All member nodes have to agree on the vote or it doesn't make it to the blockchain. The vote could be validated by the private key the voter has and carries into the voting booth. Once confirmed to the blockchain, it cannot be changed, switched, faked or duplicated.

Paper ballots can be faked, duplicated or not counted at all (Florida circa 2000 etc.) Blockchain technology cannot, and also allows the voter to verify that his or her vote reflects the way they had voted. Paper ballots do not as once it is cast the voter no longer has access to their ballot.

[Ares]

I don't know why you guys follow this type of stuff. If you don't know by now that presidents are controlled puppets, then I don't know what to say.

We all know that, but not discussing ways to resolve it isn't fruitful either.

[Dogman]

I don't know why you guys follow this type of stuff. If you don't know by now that presidents are controlled puppets, then I don't know what to say. Humm..

What would you consider a perfect system ?

Anarchy , which may work on a small scale, but not on anything big, saying because of all forums of gov on a national level has been tried over time and mostly all have failed.

What would you like to see, how any country's gov's on the local/national and international stage work?

So no system of gov has worked perfectly, mainly because we as people are imperfect and that imperfection contaminants everything we "humans" touch.

History has proven this so...!

;D

[Dogman]

Why I suggested voting by Blockchain. All member nodes have to agree on the vote or it doesn't make it to the blockchain. The vote could be validated by the private key the voter has and carries into the voting booth. Once confirmed to the blockchain, it cannot be changed, switched, faked or duplicated.

Paper ballots can be faked, duplicated or not counted at all (Florida circa 2000 etc.) Blockchain technology cannot, and also allows the voter to verify that his or her vote reflects the way they had voted. Paper ballots do not as once it is cast the voter no longer has access to their ballot. Why a voter personal copy needs to be given and taken away with the voter..

Your ideal has high merit.

But also with the thought that , anything created by man can be "gamed" by others, the trick is making the system so secure that the system is so dam hard to game, that it can not be gamed on any large scale.

Any thing created by may can be defeted by men, as "when" there is a will there is a way..

Nothing is really secure, except our own thoughts, as long as those thoughts are never spoken/convayed to any others.

One is secure, two and more not so much.

;D

[madfranks]

Why I suggested voting by Blockchain. All member nodes have to agree on the vote or it doesn't make it to the blockchain. The vote could be validated by the private key the voter has and carries into the voting booth. Once confirmed to the blockchain, it cannot be changed, switched, faked or duplicated.

Paper ballots can be faked, duplicated or not counted at all (Florida circa 2000 etc.) Blockchain technology cannot, and also allows the voter to verify that his or her vote reflects the way they had voted. Paper ballots do not as once it is cast the voter no longer has access to their ballot.

It is true that we now have the technology to ensure a far more honest and accurate voting system. And this is why we'll never see blockchain voting systems put in place with any existing government on earth.

[Ares]

Why a voter personal copy needs to be given and taken away with the voter..

Your ideal has high merit.

But also with the thought that , anything created by man can be "gamed" by others, the trick is making the system so secure that the system is so dam hard to game, that it can not be gamed on any large scale.

Any thing created by may can be defeted by men, as "when" there is a will there is a way..

Nothing is really secure, except our own thoughts, as long as those thoughts are never spoken/convayed to any others.

One is secure, two and more not so much.

;D

Agreed which is why I advocate computers being the ones that trust the vote, and confirm the vote after it's been cast. But only by utilizing the voters private encryption key can it be confirmed. The public key (which is in the block chain) has to match the private key in order for it to match and be a trusted vote. All of this is seamless in the background and the voter doesn't have to worry about the cryptography.

It's the whole reason that Bitcoin is "trusted" is that you can't lie, cheat, duplicate, or straight out steal coins directly from a wallet. The private key has to match the public key for the transaction to be committed to the blockchain.

There are companies dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into developing blockchain technology outside of Bitcoin. From deeds, to trusts, to even basic contracts between people / organizations. It makes sense to implement it in a system for electing representatives so that it cannot be gamed by either party.

No party will EVER approve of blockchain technology due to the reasons that I've outlined above. It will have to be forced upon them at the local level.

[Dogman]

Agreed which is why I advocate computers being the ones that trust the vote, and confirm the vote after it's been cast. But only by utilizing the voters private encryption key can it be confirmed. The public key (which is in the block chain) has to math the private key in order for it to match and be a trusted vote. All of this is seamless in the background and the vote doesn't have to worry about the cryptography.

It's the whole reason that Bitcoin is "trusted" is that you can't lie, cheat, duplicate, or straight out steal coins directly from a wallet. The private key has to match the public key for the transaction to be committed to the blockchain.

There are companies dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into developing blockchain technology outside of Bitcoin. From deeds, to trusts, to even basic contracts between people / organizations. It makes sense to implement it in a system for electing representatives so that it cannot be gamed by either party.

No party will EVER approve of blockchain technology due to the reasons that I've outlined above. It will have to be forced upon them at the local level. Agree

But then the sticky wicket.

Forget how many years a national id has been proposed.

Which our SS number now serves as such in a defacto way.

Then because of they that are in power because of voter manipulations above a local level, the system is rigged..


All elections should be strictly popular votes that count twords office. Period !

They that gets the most votes gets the office, traceable back to the individual voter.

Hard to game a system like that. Votes only no delegates except representing the real vote to choice the canadate then a national popular vote for the winner.

All traceable back to the individual voter..

Then the gov will truely be a gov of the people.

[Ares]

Agree

But then the sticky wicket.

Forget how many years a national id has been proposed.

Which our SS number now serves as such in a defacto way.

Then because of they that are in power because of voter manipulations above a local level, the system is rigged..


All elections should be strictly popular votes that count twords office. Period !

They that gets the most votes gets the office, traceable back to the individual voter.

Hard to game a system like that. Votes only no delegates except representing the real vote to choice the canadate then a national popular vote for the winner.

That's the best part, for it to be truly anonymous a new ID could be generated every election cycle. So that the voter cannot be tied to a specific ID. :)

[vacuum]

The repubs need to get their act together and support Trump.

And Trump needs to modify his strategy. Rallies are great, but he needs to evolve at this point.

I'm sure after the convention we'll see the game start to change.

[Joshua01]

That's the best part, for it to be truly anonymous a new ID could be generated every election cycle. So that the voter cannot be tied to a specific ID. :)

None of this will happen folks (as we all know). The game is now fully rigged. If voting mattered it would have already been banned

[Joshua01]

The repubs need to get their act together and support Trump.

And Trump needs to modify his strategy. Rallies are great, but he needs to evolve at this point.

I'm sure after the convention we'll see the game start to change.



The Repukes have already shown their true colors. Trump scares the shit out of them and they would much rather he be suicided than to back him.

[Dogman]

That's the best part, for it to be truly anonymous a new ID could be generated every election cycle. So that the voter cannot be tied to a specific ID. :)

Goes back to needing a id..

To prove you are who you calme to be and real..

As most things in life, id is required..

[Ares]

Goes back to needing a id..

To prove you are who you calme to be and real..

As most things in life, id is required..

Thats what the blockchain is for. No need to have an ID to prove who are you. The Public Address (Voter ID) is proof enough that it is a live person. But it would actually require bureaucrats who are registering voters actually doing their job.

I'd say go back to the method that was used when the country was created. You're a land / property owner? You get to vote, here's your voter ID.

You're a worthless communist parasite who doesn't own any property? Sorry you don't get to vote, and no voter ID gets generated.

[Dogman]

The repubs need to get their act together and support Trump.

And Trump needs to modify his strategy. Rallies are great, but he needs to evolve at this point.

I'm sure after the convention we'll see the game start to change. With the resantance to him, think not.. I like many things he (trump) says, but in reallity, plant a dasy on the grave of the republican party, because of trump.

He goes sideways against I think the majority of people in this nation feels.. And they in office that susport him openly, will ride the flaming mess out of office because they did.

Not what we think should be, but what the majority of sheep that vote will do..

And sadly the sheep are being dragged into being awake..

Just my old fart in training thoughts of the highly entertaining crap going on on our national level..

I predict that many republicans that now hold office will lose their jobs, because of supporting trump, which he has a snow balls chance in hell getting elected .

Because he is pissing off so many people, which I suspect are more by a vast number vs they would support him and vote him in office.

Any one want to make a $100 dollar bet ?

Interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_StG5RpA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_StG5RpA4

which is sadly only a trailer..

Cost money to see the full thing..
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_StG5RpA4)

[StreetsOfGold]

A new national poll from Bloomberg shows Hillary Clinton holding a 12-point lead on Donald Trump

The Jesuit controlled media (POLLS) are promoting the ones the Vatican wants INSTALLED as president.

I have been telling you all since last year (if you were paying attention)

Wake up and smell the coffee and you can START by using a little bit of discernment (if you have any) and one thing is 100% CERTAIN and that is the Vatican is THE oldest and BY FAR Richest nation on earth!

Follow the money, stop listening to the idiotic, foolish, Nazi (JesuTWITED) forum losers, you know the ones
they say stupid things like
"it's da joos" "it's da joos"

[madfranks]

Thats what the blockchain is for. No need to have an ID to prove who are you. The Public Address (Voter ID) is proof enough that it is a live person. But it would actually require bureaucrats who are registering voters actually doing their job.

I'd say go back to the method that was used when the country was created. You're a land / property owner? You get to vote, here's your voter ID.

You're a worthless communist parasite who doesn't own any property? Sorry you don't get to vote, and no voter ID gets generated.

It truly is crazy that people who own nothing and have no responsibility for the future can vote themselves the property of those who do.

[Ares]

It truly is crazy that people who own nothing and have no responsibility for the future can vote themselves the property of those who do.

That's Democracy in action, and is the reason why our country was founded as a Republic. It's sad that the vast majority has forgotten that.

[Dogman]

It truly is crazy that people who own nothing and have no responsibility for the future can vote themselves the property of those who do. That chapps my ass also..

But as it stands, those rights are for everyone...I would love it if they that have to pay property taxes/county/school taxes can only vote. Chapps my ass every year, when renters and such can influence the vote with no real skin in the local game..

But such is the system is what we have, and despite the faults, which are many.

Is still the best and greatest s experiment in history on how any nation of people governed them self's..

No other form of gov has worked as long as our screwed up system in historical record other than having kings and queens which has devolved into a constitutional monarchy.

Then we have tyrants, which historically do not last long..

I am for if you own land or pay taxes you have a vote on how your money is spent..

But will be a very very cold day in the hottest hell if that would happen now..

[Alex Drone]

Humm..

What would you consider a perfect system ?


Well, there is no perfect system. My point is that the elites want your mind focused on this circus known as the "election". Obviously they want to deflect attention away from the fact that there is a ruling class and they are the ones actually in control. If you can't change those whom are at the very top pulling the strings, you can't get real change. The system is a fraud by nature and why I choose not to participate in it. From the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (#10):

The chamber of deputies will provide cover for, will protect, will elect presidents, but we shall take from it the right to propose new, or make changes in existing laws, for this right will be given by us to the responsible president, a puppet in our hands. Naturally, the authority of the presidents will then become a target for every possible form of attack, but we shall provide him with a means of self-defense in the right of an appeal to the people, for the decision of the people over the heads of their representatives, that is to say, an appeal to that same blind slave of ours—the majority of the mob.

[Jerrylynnb]

The reason I think Trump will win is because of JOBS. Jobs, jobs, jobs.

Too many people have lost their jobs, can't find jobs, and, are losing their sense of self-esteem. Probably most people know a loved one or friend who has lost a job, and can't find another one.

Of course, we can't know whether or not Trump will actually cause new jobs to be created and really put people back to work, but, at least he says he will.
It might be out of desperation, but, if I were still of working age (as are my children, nephews, and others close to me), I'd warm up to any politician who promises there will be jobs and proposes a way to make that happen (prohibitively high tariffs on imported goods that could have been made here using american labor).

In the end, voters will vote their pocketbooks, no matter what they say to pollsters. And these days, too many pocketbooks are empty with no plan for any relief by any of the other politicians (especially Hillary - the demo's and other current insiders have had decades and what we got is the best they can do - no jobs).

When I graduated from college, the companies came like eager suitors to the college and had gobs of interviews with graduating seniors, all trying to outbid each other for new workers. I got to pick and choose, and, looking back, what made that situation so good for workers was TARIFFS. These companies HAD to hire american workers because if they closed a plant here in the states and opened up the same plant in another country where they had cheap labor, they would have had to pay back-breaking tariffs so they just tried to make sure they had a solid core of american workers here to make their products. Tariffs. And that is what Trump described early on in his bid for the nomination and he keeps hammering that home, so, look for a landslide victory for Trump.

And no, I'm not making any bets. I just don't see how anybody (save the die-hard extremists) can find a good reason to vote for Hillary. Ordinary americans don't hold anything more dear to their hearts than they do THIER JOBS!!!! I remember well during my working years that my image of myself was tied intimately with what I did for a living and the company I worked for - it is so deeply embedded into our self-image that the failure of the recent politicians to safeguard our jobs leads to a total disaffection from ordinary americans with the leadership - we are primed to throw the bums out and bring in new leadership that at least SAYS they will safeguard our jobs. If any company wants to sell anything here in the states, they'd better make damn sure it is MADE IN AMERICA BY AMERICANS! ! ! ! ! Otherwise they can expect to pay so much in tariffs that whatever they thought they would save by using cheap overseas labor will be topped many times over by such high tariffs. That will convince these unpatriotic companies to see the wisdom in keeping a solid core of good american labor under hire to make their products.

That is a winning ticket, and Trump laid claim to it from the beginning of his run.

[Spectrism]

The problem I see with any future job creation is a bit complicated. They have squandered decades of manufacturing loss to China. China now has the cheapest and most developed raw material processing in the world. Supply chains, refineries, infrastructure..... these don't change over night. Technology has been freely given to them as if they will be honest trading partners. They won't.

To begin clamping down would require a heavy-handed protectionism of Tariffs and tax policy for corporations that makes it painful for them to remain outside the American market, but enjoyable to have plants in America. The last economic power of America is its market but that has been drained over the last 30 years- almost to death.

When (if) there is a change in policy, China will wage war on America. They have gotten that powerful- worse, they have gotten that proud and arrogant. This makes them dangerous. The US administrations under the control of governing elite is also arrogant. This makes 2016 a most dangerous time.

[Neuro]

For large states like California, New York, ect. It's unfeasible to have millions of people attending the same venue to cast a ballot. Congress, if it actually followed the constitution would be the size of a stadium (20,000 representatives if I can remember correctly). But instead they capped it at a little over 400. We no longer have representation. 400 people cannot possibly represent 300,000,0000.

Those 400 congressmen instead represent about 20 or so Jew plutocrats.