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vacuum
27th June 2016, 09:45 AM
This seems like desperation.


http://static.presspublica.pl/red/rp/pdf/DokumentUE.pdf

TLDR
The European Union is pulling a Chancellor Palpatine and setting up the stage for them to be voted more and more "emergency" powers until they effectively become a super-state. France and Germany are leading the push.

Britain is literally the luckiest country in the world right now.


(http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit) European SUPERSTATE to be unveiled: EU nations 'to be morphed into one' post-Brexit

EUROPEAN political chiefs are to take advantage of Brexit by unveiling their long-held plan to morph the continent’s countries into one GIANT SUPERSTATE, it has emerged today.

By Nick Gutteridge (http://www.express.co.uk/search/Nick+Gutteridge?s=Nick+Gutteridge&b=1)
PUBLISHED: 11:01, Mon, Jun 27, 2016 | UPDATED: 17:20, Mon, Jun 27, 2016























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German Angela Merkel met with European heads today at the EU summit

The foreign ministers of France and Germany are due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do away with individual member states in what is being described as an “ultimatum”.

Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.

Controversially member states would also lose what few controls they have left over their own borders, including the procedure for admitting and relocating refugees.

The plot has sparked fury and panic in Poland - a traditional ally of Britain in the fight against federalism - after being leaked to Polish news channel TVP Info.

The public broadcaster reports that the bombshell proposal will be presented to a meeting of the Visegrad group of countries - made up of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia - by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier later today.

Excerpts of the nine-page report were published today as the leaders of Germany, France and Italy met in Berlin for Brexit crisis talks.

In the preamble to the text the two ministers write: "Our countries share a common destiny and a common set of values ??that give rise to an even closer union between our citizens. We will therefore strive for a political union in Europe and invite the next Europeans to participate in this venture."

The revelations come just days after Britain shook the Brussels establishment by voting to leave the European Union in a move some have predicted could leave to the break-up of the EU.

A number of member states are deeply unhappy about the creeping federalism of the European project with anti-EU sentiments running high in eastern Europe, Scandinavia and France.

Responding to the plot Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski raged: "This is not a good solution, of course, because from the time the EU was invented a lot has changed.

“The mood in European societies is different. Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union over into the hands of technocrats.

“Therefore, I want to talk about this, whether this really is the right recipe right now in the context of a Brexit."

There are deep divides at the heart of the EU at the moment over how to proceed with the project in light of the Brexit vote.

Some figures have cautioned against trying to force through further political integration, warning that to do so against the wishes of the European people will only fuel further Eurosceptic feeling.


A few weeks before the Brexit vote European Council president Donald Tusk warned that European citizens did not share the enthusiasm of some of their leaders for “a utopia of Europe without conflicting interests and ambitions, a utopia of Europe imposing its own values on the external world, a utopia of Euro-Asian unity”.

He added: “Increasingly louder are those who question the very principle of a united Europe. The spectre of a break-up is haunting Europe and a vision of a federation doesn’t seem to me to be the best answer to it.”

His view was backed up by the leader of the eurozone countries, Dutch politician Jerome Dijsselbloem, who added: “In the eurozone some are pushing for a completion of the monetary union by creating a full political union, a euro area economic government or even a euro budget… to me it is obvious.

“We need to strengthen what we have and finish it, but let’s not build more extensions to the European house while it is so unstable.”

Meanwhile Lorenzo Condign, the former director general of Italy’s treasury, has said it is nearly impossible to see Europe opting for more integration at such a time of upheaval.

He said: “It seems difficult to imagine that the rest of the EU will close ranks and move in the direction of greater integration quickly. Simply, there is no political will.
“Indeed, the risk is exactly the opposite - namely that centrifugal forces will prevail and make integration even more difficult.”

But others see the Brexit vote as an opportunity to push ahead with the European elite’s long-cherished dream of creating a United States of Europe.

Spain’s foreign minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo has called for “more Europe” whilst Italy’s finance minister, Carlo Padoan, is advocating a common budget for the eurozone states.

And Emmanuel Macron, France’s economy minister, wants to go even further and set up a common eurozone treasury which would oversee the permanent transfer of funds from wealthier northern Europe to shore up Mediterranean economies.


(http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit)

vacuum
27th June 2016, 09:59 AM
EU must stop others following Britain out of the door, Merkel warns amid market fears bloc is 'no longer governable' after Brexit



German Chancellor says it is necessary to prevent others copying Britain
Financial markets fear EU is 'no longer governable' after Brexit (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/eu_referendum/index.html), she said
Merkel is due to meet with French President Francois Hollande later today


By Julian Robinson for MailOnline (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Julian+Robinson+for+MailOnline) and Associated Press (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Associated+Press)
Published: 11:09 GMT, 27 June 2016 | Updated: 15:52 GMT, 27 June 2016

Angela Merkel (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/angela_merkel/index.html)has said the EU needs to stop other countries following Britain out of the door amid market fears that the bloc is 'no longer governable' after Brexit.
The German Chancellor told her conservative party board in a conference call that it was necessary to prevent other European Union members going down the same path as Britain.

Merkel is also said to have revealed that international financial markets are concerned the EU is 'no longer governable' in the wake of Britain's exit vote.


She added that it was not the right time to pursue a quick deepening of cooperation between euro zone member states.
The EU should instead act on popular concerns such as securing the bloc's borders, creating jobs and improve internal security, she said.


Her comments were reported by two sources who took part in a telephone conference of the board of the Christian Democratic Union.

A German government spokesman said today there will be no informal discussions between Britain and the European Union before the British government has invoked formal divorce proceedings.

Steffen Seibert, spokesman for Chancellor Angela Merkel, said the UK first needed to make the formal Article 50 request - the legal mechanism for the withdrawal of a member state from the EU.

'One thing is clear: before Britain has sent this request there will be no informal preliminary talks about the modalities of leaving,' he said.


'Only when Britain has made the request according to Article 50 will the European Council draw up guidelines in consensus for an exit agreement,' he added.
Guenther Oettinger, a German member of the EU's executive European Commission, also issued a warning.

'Every day of uncertainty prevents investors from putting their funds into Britain, and also other European markets,' he told Deutschlandfunk radio. 'Cameron and his party will cause damage if they wait until October.'

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has taken a softer line. She says she will not battle now over the timeframe and has underlined the need to continue a positive trade relationship with Britain, a big market for German carmakers and other manufacturers.

But a Merkel ally, Volker Kauder, made clear the exit negotiations would not be easy. 'There will be no special treatment, there will be no gifts,' Kauder, who leads Merkel's conservatives in parliament, told ARD television.


Speaking on the Today programme, German MP Michael Fuchs, a senior ally of Chancellor Angela Merkel, made it clear things were going to have to change.

He said: 'Either you are in a club or you are out of a club. If you are in a club you have to follow the rules. If you are out of the club, there will be different rules.

When asked whether it would be possible for Britain to retain access to the single market, he added: 'It will be possible, of course, but not for free.

'You have to see with Norway, with Switzerland, you have to pay a certain fee. And the per capita fee of Norway is exactly the same as what Britain is now paying into the EU. So there won't be any savings.'

Today, Merkel said she understands that Britain may need 'a certain amount of time to analyse things' regarding its departure from the EU but adds that a 'long-term suspension' of the question wouldn't be in either side's economic interest.


She wouldn't comment on whether it's acceptable for London to wait until October, as David Cameron plans.

It comes as a poll showed most Germans back their country's membership of the European Union and do not want a U.K.-style referendum - and they also do not expect other EU member states to follow Britain's example in voting to leave the bloc.

Germany, the EU's economic powerhouse, has been shocked by British voters' decision in last Thursday's referendum to back Brexit.

Eurosceptic parties across Europe have called for their own countries to hold referenda on EU membership, but a Forsa poll published in Monday's edition of the Handelsblatt newspaper showed little public support for this in Germany.

Eighty two percent of Germans polled by Forsa said they would vote to remain in the EU and only 14 percent would back withdrawal. Seventy one percent were opposed to a U.K.-style referendum in Germany, while 27 percent said they backed one.


The Forsa poll, which canvassed the views of 1,005 people on June 24, the day after Britain's referendum, also showed that a narrow majority of Germans, 51 percent, did not expect other EU member states to quit the EU against 42 percent who did.

Some Europeans have expressed concern that 'Brexit' may trigger a wave of votes that could destroy the EU.

However, Germany's constitution only foresees a referendum being held if the borders of the country's 16 federal states are to change or if any of them are to fuse, a spokesman for the justice ministry said. If two states were to merge, for example, a referendum would only be held in those two states, he added.

Germans are not keen on popular plebiscites at the federal level after a referendum in 1934 combined the posts of chancellor and president, cementing Adolf Hitler's grip on power. But referenda are sometimes held at the state level.

Volker Kauder, a close ally of Merkel, told public broadcaster ARD on Monday that he was not in favour of Germany holding a referendum on its EU membership.

'I think we have shown in our post-war history that our representative democracy is successful,' he said.

Meanwhile, French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel are meeting in Berlin today with EU President Donald Tusk and Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, ahead of an EU-wide summit Tuesday and Wednesday.


US Secretary of State John Kerry today warned the other 27 European Union nations not to be revengeful toward Britain despite last week's referendum vote.

After meeting with his EU counterpart Federica Mogherini, Kerry said anger would not help anyone solve the fundamental issue of the break-up.

He said it was 'absolutely essential that we stay focused on how, in this transitional period, nobody loses their head, nobody goes off half-cocked, people don't start ginning up scatterbrained or revengeful premises.'

There has been growing anger in the EU that despite the UK's decision to leave, the British government could wait for months before starting the complicated process of disentanglement.

Instead, Kerry said both sides must 'look for ways to maintain the strength that will serve the interests and the values that brought us together in the first place.'

The United States has said it is disappointed by Britain's vote, but also says Britain will continue to have a special relationship with Washington.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3662027/EU-stop-following-Britain-door-Merkel-warns-amid-market-fears-bloc-no-longer-governable-Brexit.html

cheka.
27th June 2016, 11:23 AM
maybe this is the answer we've been waiting for

Horn
27th June 2016, 02:20 PM
Holy Repeat Holy Roman Empire, Batman!

midnight rambler
27th June 2016, 03:35 PM
This seems like desperation.

I don't see this as desperation, more like their ultimate dream come true. Now is as good a time as any to unveil it.

Horn
27th June 2016, 04:07 PM
You can be sure if this makes any headway, that Trump is a shoe in for the U. K.

collector
27th June 2016, 05:51 PM
I don't see this as desperation, more like their ultimate dream come true. Now is as good a time as any to unveil it.

Good point - from what I remember, the Queen supported this

osoab
27th June 2016, 07:30 PM
I don't see this as desperation, more like their ultimate dream come true. Now is as good a time as any to unveil it.

Especially if they tank all markets and flood propaganda claiming "Brussels has the Answers".

Horn
27th June 2016, 08:23 PM
They need some sort of new Unifying avatar.

http://hisheavenlyarmies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/000116540reich_eu.jpg

vacuum
27th June 2016, 09:43 PM
I don't see this as desperation, more like their ultimate dream come true. Now is as good a time as any to unveil it.

The other possibility is that they needed Britain out of the EU in order to move forward with their goal of a complete superstate. They would have never gotten Britain to agree to everything they want, so its better to remove them and then consolidate all the rest.

cheka.
28th June 2016, 05:10 AM
The other possibility is that they needed Britain out of the EU in order to move forward with their goal of a complete superstate. They would have never gotten Britain to agree to everything they want, so its better to remove them and then consolidate all the rest.

at this point that's the best explanation imo. city of london, bank of england, crown would not let voters decide their fate. the same voters they railroad every day from every direction?

not buying the little people revolting and breaking up the eu meme. doesnt pass the learned smell test

Blink
28th June 2016, 10:15 AM
The other possibility is that they needed Britain out of the EU in order to move forward with their goal of a complete superstate. They would have never gotten Britain to agree to everything they want, so its better to remove them and then consolidate all the rest.

I think England bailed so they (bankers) can still be the independent world banking centre when this fiasco all comes apart/together. They will be free to deal with the new emerging world superpower, China. And they won't be hampered by the new EUSS (European Union of Socialist States, or SS for short)......

Horn
28th June 2016, 03:40 PM
yeah they were designated as the gobetween third party to eurozone and china awhile back.

why there was ever any question idk, unless the U. S. were volleying for the position?