Say goodbye to the US Constitution

[Joshua01]

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/27/richard-posner-no-value-in-studying-us-constitutio/#

The country is lost as not enough people are willing to defend our freedoms and rights by picking up arms and fighting back. It's going to be every man for himself within a year or two

[monty]

A sad day in America when the federal judiciary is composed of a-holes like him.

[Joshua01]

Don't these guys have to swear an other to uphold, protect and defend the COTUS when they're sworn in? What the actual fuck is going on here???

[monty]

I believe they do. Going public with a statement like he made should be sufficient to impeach him.

[singular_me]

thought it died in 1913

[Cebu_4_2]

Judge Richard Posner: ‘No value’ in studying the U.S. Constitution

By Jessica Chasmar (http://m.washingtontimes.com/staff/jessica-chasmar/) - The Washington Times
Monday, June 27, 2016
Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/richard-posner/) sees “absolutely no value” in studying the U.S. Constitution because “eighteenth-century guys” couldn’t have possibly foreseen the culture and technology of today.

In a recent op-ed (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2016/supreme_court_breakfast_table_for_june_2016/law_school_professors_need_more_practical_experien ce.html?wpsrc=sh_all_mob_tw_top) for Slate, Judge Posner (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/richard-posner/), a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, argued that the original Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the post–Civil War amendments “do not speak to today.”
“I see absolutely no value to a judge of spending decades, years, months, weeks, day, hours, minutes, or seconds studying the Constitution, the history of its enactment, its amendments, and its implementation (across the centuries — well, just a little more than two centuries, and of course less for many of the amendments),” he wrote. “Eighteenth-century guys, however smart, could not foresee the culture, technology, etc., of the 21st century.”

He added, “let’s not let the dead bury the living.”

Judge Posner (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/richard-posner/), an outspoken opponent of late Justice Antonin Scalia, also blasted “absurd” posthumous encomia for the late conservative.

“I worry that law professors are too respectful of the Supreme Court, in part perhaps because they don’t want to spoil the chances of their students to obtain Supreme Court clerkships,” he wrote. “I think the Supreme Court is at a nadir. The justices are far too uniform in background, and I don’t think there are any real stars among them; the last real star, Robert Jackson, died more than 60 years ago. I regard the posthumous encomia for Scalia as absurd. Especially those of Harvard Law School Dean Martha Minow and Justice Elena Kagan.”

David Bernstein, who teaches at Antonin Scalia Law School, formerly George Mason University School of Law, called (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/06/27/judge-posners-bizarre-swipe-at-the-late-justice-scalia/) Judge Posner (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/richard-posner/)’s swipe at Scalia “revolting.”

“We all know Posner (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/richard-posner/) doesn’t think highly, to say the least, of Scalia. Judging from what Posner (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/richard-posner/) writes, the distaste seems to stem primarily from jealousy — Posner (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/richard-posner/) thinks he would be a far better Supreme Court Justice than Scalia was, and he resents that as a ‘lower court’ judge, his writings, though highly influential in their own right, will never get the same attention and accolades as Scalia,” Mr. Bernstein wrote.

[Joshua01]

If conservative gun owners were as bloodthirsty and dangerous as the progressive left make them out to be this guy would have been suicided long before this. The leftists are the dangerous bloodthirsty hoard to worry about...not the conservative working class American. Notice how few flaming liberals have these unfortunately accidents compared to people who are not part of their hoard and indeed, threaten said hoard with incriminating evidence the 'suicide' victim alone possessed?

[Ares]

Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner sees “absolutely no value” in studying the U.S. Constitution because “eighteenth-century guys” couldn’t have possibly foreseen the culture and technology of today.

In a recent op-ed for Slate, Judge Posner, a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, argued that the original Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the post–Civil War amendments “do not speak to today.”

That's because you and your kind are fucking idiots. Passing statutes calling them laws and trying to confuse them as actually being legally binding.

[monty]

That's because you and your kind are fucking idiots. Passing statutes calling them laws and trying to confuse them as actually being legally binding.


And bullshitting the public into believing federal statutes have force and effect in the 50 Union-states

[monty]

https://s19.postimg.org/y88230ijn/image.jpg

[madfranks]

Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner (http://m.washingtontimes.com/topics/richard-posner/) sees “absolutely no value” in studying the U.S. Constitution because “eighteenth-century guys” couldn’t have possibly foreseen the culture and technology of today.


Riiiiight, because moral questions, questions on cheating/stealing/property rights are subject to culture and technology. It's scary that people like this have so much power. We underestimate that there are people in great positions of power who think that modern whims and feelings are LAW.

[midnight rambler]

thought it died in 1913

No, actually on 24 April 1863.

[7th trump]

And bullshitting the public into believing federal statutes have force and effect in the 50 Union-states

They do for federal "US citizens" such as yourself.
Have a federal ID number..............SSN?
If you do and use it.....that makes you subject to their laws.
Stop using it like I did by not participating in Social Security.

Social Security regulation
5usc 552(a)(13)


5 U.S. Code § 552a - Records maintained on individuals

Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
(a)Definitions.—For purposes of this section—
(1) the term “agency” means agency as defined in section 552(e) [1] of this title;
(2) the term “individual” means a citizen of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence;
(3) the term “maintain” includes maintain, collect, use, or disseminate;
(4) the term “record” means any item, collection, or grouping of information about an individual that is maintained by an agency, including, but not limited to, his education, financial transactions, medical history, and criminal or employment history and that contains his name, or the identifying number, symbol, or other identifying particular assigned to the individual, such as a finger or voice print or a photograph;
(5) the term “system of records” means a group of any records under the control of any agency from which information is retrieved by the name of the individual or by some identifying number, symbol, or other identifying particular assigned to the individual;
(6) the term “statistical record” means a record in a system of records maintained for statistical research or reporting purposes only and not used in whole or in part in making any determination about an identifiable individual, except as provided by section 8 of title 13;
(7) the term “routine use” means, with respect to the disclosure of a record, the use of such record for a purpose which is compatible with the purpose for which it was collected;
(8) the term “matching program”—
(A) means any computerized comparison of—
(i) two or more automated systems of records or a system of records with non-Federal records for the purpose of—
(I) establishing or verifying the eligibility of, or continuing compliance with statutory and regulatory requirements by, applicants for, recipients or beneficiaries of, participants in, or providers of services with respect to, cash or in-kind assistance or payments under Federal benefit programs, or
(II) recouping payments or delinquent debts under such Federal benefit programs, or
(ii) two or more automated Federal personnel or payroll systems of records or a system of Federal personnel or payroll records with non-Federal records,
(B) but does not include—
(i) matches performed to produce aggregate statistical data without any personal identifiers;
(ii) matches performed to support any research or statistical project, the specific data of which may not be used to make decisions concerning the rights, benefits, or privileges of specific individuals;
(iii) matches performed, by an agency (or component thereof) which performs as its principal function any activity pertaining to the enforcement of criminal laws, subsequent to the initiation of a specific criminal or civil law enforcement investigation of a named person or persons for the purpose of gathering evidence against such person or persons;
(iv) matches of tax information (I) pursuant to section 6103(d) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, (II) for purposes of tax administration as defined in section 6103(b)(4) of such Code, (III) for the purpose of intercepting a tax refund due an individual under authority granted by section 404(e), 464, or 1137 of the Social Security Act; or (IV) for the purpose of intercepting a tax refund due an individual under any other tax refund intercept program authorized by statute which has been determined by the Director of the Office of Management and Budget to contain verification, notice, and hearing requirements that are substantially similar to the procedures in section 1137 of the Social Security Act;
(v) matches—
(I) using records predominantly relating to Federal personnel, that are performed for routine administrative purposes (subject to guidance provided by the Director of the Office of Management and Budget pursuant to subsection (v)); or
(II) conducted by an agency using only records from systems of records maintained by that agency;
 if the purpose of the match is not to take any adverse financial, personnel, disciplinary, or other adverse action against Federal personnel;
(vi) matches performed for foreign counterintelligence purposes or to produce background checks for security clearances of Federal personnel or Federal contractor personnel;
(vii) matches performed incident to a levy described in section 6103(k)(8) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986;
(viii) matches performed pursuant to section 202(x)(3) or 1611(e)(1) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 402(x)(3), 1382(e)(1));
(ix) matches performed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services or the Inspector General of the Department of Health and Human Services with respect to potential fraud, waste, and abuse, including matches of a system of records with non-Federal records; or
(x) matches performed pursuant to section 3(d)(4) of the Achieving a Better Life Experience Act of 2014; 
1
(9) the term “recipient agency” means any agency, or contractor thereof, receiving records contained in a system of records from a source agency for use in a matching program;
(10) the term “non-Federal agency” means any State or local government, or agency thereof, which receives records contained in a system of records from a source agency for use in a matching program;
(11) the term “source agency” means any agency which discloses records contained in a system of records to be used in a matching program, or any State or local government, or agency thereof, which discloses records to be used in a matching program;
(12) the term “Federal benefit program” means any program administered or funded by the Federal Government, or by any agent or State on behalf of the Federal Government, providing cash or in-kind assistance in the form of payments, grants, loans, or loan guarantees to individuals; and
(13)the term “Federal personnel” means officers and employees of the Government of the United States, members of the uniformed services (including members of the Reserve Components), individuals entitled to receive immediate or deferred retirement benefits under any retirement program of the Government of the United States (including survivor benefits).


Stop participating in that federal government retirement program and they wont have any records about you.
Cant get a drivers license either without a ssn because "We the People" don't ask permission from their subject government.

Everything related to federal revolves around that number....everything!

[palani]

No Treason (1867-1870) by Lysander Spooner (1808-1887)


It is no answer to this view of the case to say that these men are under oath to use their power only within certain limits; for what care they, or what should they care, for oaths or limits, when it is expressly provided, by the Constitution itself, that they shall never be “questioned,” or held to any responsibility whatever, for violating their oaths, or transgressing those limits?

http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm

Kindly note that the above text predates the social security number by 70 years.

[7th trump]

No Treason (1867-1870) by Lysander Spooner (1808-1887)


It is no answer to this view of the case to say that these men are under oath to use their power only within certain limits; for what care they, or what should they care, for oaths or limits, when it is expressly provided, by the Constitution itself, that they shall never be “questioned,” or held to any responsibility whatever, for violating their oaths, or transgressing those limits?

http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm

Kindly note that the above text predates the social security number by 70 years.

Doesnt matter if it predates it or not. What matters is what legislation is trapping "We the People" (State citizens) into federal subject "US citizens".
Anything else is just a lot of bullshit...get to the root cause and not this half ass conspiracy bullshit you're known for.

[7th trump]

No Treason (1867-1870) by Lysander Spooner (1808-1887)


It is no answer to this view of the case to say that these men are under oath to use their power only within certain limits; for what care they, or what should they care, for oaths or limits, when it is expressly provided, by the Constitution itself, that they shall never be “questioned,” or held to any responsibility whatever, for violating their oaths, or transgressing those limits?

http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm

Kindly note that the above text predates the social security number by 70 years.

And they dont have to because of the 14th amendment....get to your point!
US citizens cannot question the government via the 14th...but "We the People" have that authority.
And kindly note that even though the 14th was ratified there were still state citizens walking among st the federal citizens.

My grandpa never paid a dime in federal taxes until he got a SSN and was never required to get a drivers license until he applied for a SSN. Soon after all sorts of taxes and regulations governed him and my grandma.
And that was in the mid to late 1940's when they started having kids.

[palani]

that was in the mid to late 1940's when they started having kids.

What are you suggesting? Kids are the problem?

[7th trump]

What are you suggesting? Kids are the problem?
wow really?....no the SSN was.
Do you have any clue?

[palani]

wow really?....no the SSN was.
'Was' is past tense. Are you living in the past?



Do you have any clue?
Neither a clue nor a plan have I.


clue (n.)
1590s, spelling variant of clew "a ball of thread or yarn"


We meet Papi at his 1931 trial, being menaced by the prosecutor, Pradel, ineffectually comforted by his lawyer, Hubert, and ultimately judged and sentenced to life by 12 "cheeseheads." (Hands up, who else would see a movie called 12 Angry Cheeseheads?) He is sent to a temporary prison to await his trip to the islands, where he meets up with Dega, a Marseilles man who gives him the invaluable advice to get a plan. A plan is a small metal tube that you keep far up your anus in order to safeguard your money.

Do you have a plan?

[7th trump]

'Was' is past tense. Are you living in the past?



Neither a clue nor a plan have I.





Do you have a plan?

There you go people.....the problems of today. Shouldnt be any doubt on why theres plenty of idiots on medication.

[palani]

Shouldnt be any doubt on why theres plenty of idiots on medication.

What meds are you on?

Had I known you were taking mind altering drugs I would have been kinder to you.

'Course I should have suspected it since you work at Deere. The environment there is toxic.

[7th trump]

What meds are you on?

Had I known you were taking mind altering drugs I would have been kinder to you.

'Course I should have suspected it since you work at Deere. The environment there is toxic.

Its captain douchebag boys and girls.

Any wonder why you barely scrape up anyone to listen to you?
You have never seriously answer one damn question in all the years you've been on GSUS.

When its go time you peter out like limp dick wet noodle....and then make up every excuse. I wish I could be there when you knee if front of God to listen to your pathetic excuse. All you have going for you is pleading a capacity of mental error....how sad!
Hopefully you'll still be charged for your inequities because we both know your playing a game.


That's what you have reduced yourself to Palani. Just two options.
1. You're a fool.
2. You're incompetent.

At least you still have the choice of picking one.

[Joshua01]

Its captain douchebag boys and girls.

Any wonder why you barely scrape up anyone to listen to you?
You have never seriously answer one damn question in all the years you've been on GSUS.

When its go time you peter out like limp dick wet noodle....and then make up every excuse. I wish I could be there when you knee if front of God to listen to your pathetic excuse. All you have going for you is pleading a capacity of mental error....how sad!
Hopefully you'll still be charged for your inequities because we both know your playing a game.


That's what you have reduced yourself to Palani. Just two options.
1. You're a fool.
2. You're incompetent.

At least you still have the choice of picking one.

I read through this particular post and have a pretty good idea who the fool is

[palani]

you still have the choice of picking one.

Perhaps you need to review your dosage?

[7th trump]

Perhaps you need to review your dosage?

You must think that your spreading lies, half truths and conspiracies will not go unpunished after being show the truth.
And at your ripe moldy old age you must have snubbed off the calling we all receive and continued down the path of lies and deception.

Fact: you will eventually die.

Whether or not you believe in a Creator is your choice. Either way we all get our do and just rewards...some are punishment and some are not. All depends on what side of the truth you choose to stand with.
Just a reminder.....satan is the father of all lies....all of them, big and small, significant or otherwise.

Like I say it'll be sweet to witness you in front of the Creator.

[Joshua01]

You must think that your spreading lies, half truths and conspiracies will not go unpunished after being show the truth.
And at your ripe moldy old age you must have snubbed off the calling we all receive and continued down the path of lies and deception.

Fact: you will eventually die.

Whether or not you believe in a Creator is your choice. Either way we all get our do and just rewards...some are punishment and some are not. All depends on what side of the truth you choose to stand with.
Just a reminder.....satan is the father of all lies....all of them, big and small, significant or otherwise.

Like I say it'll be sweet to witness you in front of the Creator.

I'll bet you'd like to be there slapping him upside the head with your bible while the lord is banishing him to the lake of fire for all eternity. That would bring a smile to your face, wouldn't it?

[7th trump]

I'll bet you'd like to be there slapping him upside the head with your bible while the lord is banishing him to the lake of fire for all eternity. That would bring a smile to your face, wouldn't it?

It wouldn't be Christian otherwise now would it.
Think about it....Christ isn't coming back as wimp. So why should any Christian have to put up with any foolish asshole? Palani isn't innocent with his lies and bullshit. He purposely plays this game. He no longer is categorized as someone who gets a slap on the wrist for being ignorant.

Seriously I think you have been fooled into believing all Christians should be wimps, you're as cucked as cucked can be if you believe that.
Christ has an army, a big freaken mean kick ass army, to lay the law down. Its not going to be pleasant for those like Palani. That is if palani even qualifies to be corrected.
A lot of these idiots will not have that opportunity of being corrected. They will be scheduled for destruction and wait for it while the rest get corrected and tested one more time.

[Joshua01]

It wouldn't be Christian otherwise now would it.
Think about it....Christ isn't coming back as wimp. So why should any Christian have to put up with any foolish asshole? Palani isn't innocent with his lies and bullshit. He purposely plays this game. He no longer is categorized as someone who gets a slap on the wrist for being ignorant.

Seriously I think you have been fooled into believing all Christians should be wimps, you're as cucked as cucked can be if you believe that.
Christ has an army, a big freaken mean kick ass army, to lay the law down. Its not going to be pleasant for those like Palani. That is if palani even qualifies to be corrected.
A lot of these idiots will not have that opportunity of being corrected. They will be scheduled for destruction and wait for it while the rest get corrected and tested one more time.

Actually, I'm an independent thinker. I was Christian once but then reached the age of reason and figured out ALL religions were invented by men to control other men. You can wait around all you like for the Messiah, I'll just continue to live my life since it's the only one I have, try and be righteous to myself and those I love, and continue to resist being controlled by others...that is if you don't mind. I know Christians like to bash people who don't believe what they want them too. You find that behavior in all religious groups. Sad really!

[7th trump]

Actually, I'm an independent thinker. I was Christian once but then reached the age of reason and figured out ALL religions were invented by men to control other men. You can wait around all you like for the Messiah, I'll just continue to live my life since it's the only one I have, try and be righteous to myself and those I love, and continue to resist being controlled by others...that is if you don't mind. I know Christians like to bash people who don't believe what they want them too. You find that behavior in all religious groups. Sad really!

Thank you for that bit of information. What would I have done without you.....ohhhh great independent thinker.
GSUS is so blessed with your extraordinary ability that which the multitudes of biblical scholars, science and history couldn't accomplish over hundreds of years.

Nice sock puppet Hillbilly!
Using the biblical name "Joshua" is a bit ironic isn't it?

You're a hoot Hillbilly

[Joshua01]

Thank you for that bit of information. What would I have done without you.....ohhhh great independent thinker.
GSUS is so blessed with your extraordinary ability that which the multitudes of biblical scholars, science and history couldn't accomplish over hundreds of years.

Nice sock puppet Hillbilly!
Using the biblical name "Joshua" is a bit ironic isn't it?

You're a hoot Hillbilly

You always make me chuckle 7th.

[7th trump]

You always make me chuckle 7th.

Yeah....didn't think Hillbilly's sock puppet would have much to say after that.



He knows everything ya know!

[monty]

https://s19.postimg.org/4yoz60vs3/image.jpg

[Joshua01]

Yeah....didn't think Hillbilly's sock puppet would have much to say after that.



He knows everything ya know!

I could only dream of having the high intelligence and full understanding of every issue and situation the world has to offer that you have. It's a blessing

[7th trump]

I could only dream of having the high intelligence and full understanding of every issue and situation the world has to offer that you have. It's a blessing


Yes, glad you recognized it, I do have a higher understanding than most.
That was the one thing I did ask for from God.
Now, like a few on this site, you'll get what I do understand mixed with being arrogant.
Most people don't like being corrected when they believe they don't need correction....I don't care I will call then out every time. Palani is a very good example with his conspiracy bullshit that he can never explain in detail....hes a damn joke and liar., Nothing more than an old coot who doesn't have any friends in his surround life.

Why is it I don't pay federal taxes? And the IRS leaves me alone? Its because I understand the root cause. Took the necessary time to do research. Palani doesn't do that. He refuses to research the law. His response is the law doesn't apply to him and skirts around questions that his posts bring forth . The fool never answers a damn thing. This makes me appear mean and disrespectful in some the members eyes who voice their silly opinion towards me. They too are stupid idiots responding ONLY to their emotions.....just like niggers of the street (ximmy is the perfect example). Shes a free spirited liberal deep down. None of them have the strength to look at themselves and ask the hard questions. They are not humble but very prideful...and lie to themselves and others. In the eyes of the Creator....nothing He's looking for. Coming out of the gate they stumble over themselves claiming they are awake. heck half if not more are atheists having no moral ground or direction. They'd screw you over without batting an eye.


Crap....why am I explaining this to you...you're Hillbilly's sock puppet.

[Joshua01]

Crap....why am I explaining this to you...you're Hillbilly's sock puppet.

Because the aura of your presence here has me totally memorized and I seek guidance from the Master of all Things. Oh great and powerful trump, guide me to the land of milk and honey

[7th trump]

Because the aura of your presence here has me totally memorized and I seek guidance from the Master of all Things. Oh great and powerful trump, guide me to the land of milk and honey

You error in your foolish prideful ways. I never said I was a master of anything.....just have a higher understanding than most. Humble yourself and maybe He'll give you some insight. What I've come to realize with this understanding is...simplicity! Study nature sometime. Nothing new under the sun and nature in some form or another proves this. Just about everything we think we invented...nature already has it in motion.

You cant guide a fool now can you Hillbilly? That's like trying and teach a lion how to use a fork. When the lion is ready to learn you then may have a chance.

[Joshua01]

You error in your foolish prideful ways. I never said I was a master of anything.....just have a higher understanding than most. Humble yourself and maybe He'll give you some insight.
You cant guide a fool now can you Hillbilly? That's like trying and teach a lion how to use a fork. When the lion is ready to learn you then may have a chance.

You must be a blast at parties

[7th trump]

You must be a blast at parties

No, really don't care to go to party's...actually cant stand a bunch of people trying to impress each other for what........nothing!
You will never see me with colored hair or have tattoos or dress like a million dollars to impress more idiots of the same. I know people in their late 40's and early 50's that my kids act cleaner than they do. Some just don't grow up......ever!
Kind of like your avator......why would you display a pic of a young girl with big tits? That's so telling of your slutty personality.....childish and immature. I wouldn't trust you around any of my kids that's for sure. That pic is a perfect example of what kind of trash you really are...and your demonstrating it conversing with me. That and your hiding behind another persona...you're Hillybilly.
So tell me ohh independent thinker...think you fooled me? Think you get under my skin? Think you are more intelligent than one who asks and seeks intelligence from the Creator?
Keep fooling yourself Hillbilly because you are only fooling yourself. You lie to yourself...you're not honest in any way.

[Joshua01]

No, really don't care to go to party's...actually cant stand a bunch of people trying to impress each other for what........nothing!
You will never see me with colored hair or have tattoos or dress like a million dollars to impress more idiots of the same. I know people in their late 40's and early 50's that my kids act cleaner than they do. Some just don't grow up......ever!
Kind of like your avator......why would you display a pic of a young girl with big tits? That's so telling of your slutty personality.....childish and immature. I wouldn't trust you around any of my kids that's for sure. That pic is a perfect example of what kind of trash you really are...and your demonstrating it conversing with me. That and your hiding behind another persona...you're Hillybilly.
So tell me ohh independent thinker...think you fooled me? Think you get under my skin? Think you are more intelligent than one who asks and seeks intelligence from the Creator?
Keep fooling yourself Hillbilly because you are only fooling yourself. You lie to yourself...you're not honest in any way.

I find your level of hate for everything you don't approve of amusing. Must be your religious upbringing.

[midnight rambler]

Humble yourself and maybe He'll give you some insight.

Sage advice from the paragon of humility!

[Joshua01]

Sage advice from the paragon of humility!

What can I say about a guy who can't appreciated a set of big boobs?

[palani]

He refuses to research the law.
I presume your ignorance of law drives you to research it? How could anyone be ignorant of law that applies to them?


Ignorance of law, consists in the want of knowledge of those laws which it is our duty to understand, and which every man is presumed to know.

From what source have you saddled yourself with a duty to research the law?

[7th trump]

I presume your ignorance of law drives you to research it? How could anyone be ignorant of law that applies to them?



From what source have you saddled yourself with a duty to research the law?

You're a perfect example of being ignorant of law that applies to you. Actually ignorant of a lot of things.

My source.......to be free of the IRS and any duty to file any return......and I've succeeded.
And with that I'm no longer guilty of government misdoings, lies and murder by financing them. No blood on my hands.

[Joshua01]

You're a perfect example of being ignorant of law that applies to you. Actually ignorant of a lot of things.

My source.......to be free of the IRS and any duty to file any return......and I've succeeded.
And with that I'm no longer guilty of government misdoings, lies and murder by financing them. No blood on my hands.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.....

[7th trump]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.....

I sleep very well knowing I keep all my money when I get a weekly pay check.....thank you!
How about you Hillbilly? Do you sleep well knowing some low life thug gets a cut of your pay check. How does it feel that a worthless public assistance thug has every right to some of your hard earn pay check?
Do you feel kinda stupid because you are ignorant of certain legislation? How about the idea that you have a Constitution that protects you but you haven't the mental strength to stand on your own two feet. The Constitution is there in full force and effect but you cant access it.
You're thirsty but can get a drink....how does that feel?
A punk ass with his ass exposed to the world can reach right in your pocket (before you actually get any compensation from your employer) and take it from you before you get it?
Hahahahahahaha...............and you call me an idiot huh?
Well the idiot is you! You a white guy, more intelligent than any colored race, a race that Christ has come through, has a system set up for you and the inferior colored punk ass thugs triumph over you with your own system....yeah keep listening to that mental case palani.

IRS doesn't have any record of me....why is that?

[palani]

You're a perfect example of being ignorant of law that applies to you.
Sorry. I cannot be ignorant of any law that applies to me.

You did know that as soon as law is written it no longer is unwritten law?

You did know that unwritten law was lex non scripta?

You did know that lex non scripta is also called by the name 'common law'?

Or are you ignorant of these facts as well?

[midnight rambler]

A punk ass with his ass exposed

There you go again with your obsession with bare asses and sodomy. lol

[Joshua01]

I sleep very well knowing I keep all my money when I get a weekly pay check.....thank you!
How about you Hillbilly? Do you sleep well knowing some low life thug gets a cut of your pay check. How does it feel that a worthless public assistance thug has every right to some of your hard earn pay check?
Do you feel kinda stupid because you are ignorant of certain legislation? How about the idea that you have a Constitution that protects you but you haven't the mental strength to stand on your own two feet. The Constitution is there in full force and effect but you cant access it.
You're thirsty but can get a drink....how does that feel?
A punk ass with his ass exposed to the world can reach right in your pocket (before you actually get any compensation from your employer) and take it from you before you get it?
Hahahahahahaha...............and you call me an idiot huh?
Well the idiot is you! You a white guy, more intelligent than any colored race, a race that Christ has come through, has a system set up for you and the inferior colored punk ass thugs triumph over you with your own system....yeah keep listening to that mental case palani.

IRS doesn't have any record of me....why is that?

Because your real name is Bond....James Bond!

[7th trump]

Because your real name is Bond....James Bond!

No, because I have a higher understanding. I dont just go around the net looking for answers that some other douche bag dreamed up because hes too damn lazy to do any real research. Took that research and applied it.
I wasnt scared to apply it and stand on the Constitution with both feet...it was really easy once you understand it. Didnt have t ogo to court either and saved the employer thousands each year. They like me...I'm very valuable to this company. Both the IRS and the SSA signed off....no problems from either for years now.

The IRS isnt the problem. The IRS isnt who you take to court like all the so called "guru's" out there seem to think (palani included).
The IRS is just a collection agnecy for the federal government.
Like all collection agencies they collect something that is due from another cause or reason.

Would you pay a collection agency if they tried to collect some money for something they made up? Or would you pay the collection agency whats due to them from a bill of a third party.
All these idiots ( including Palani) think and believe just that. They go after the collection agency who's was hired to do a specific job of collecting....and fail in court.....(typical so and so vs the IRS). So what do these idiots do when they fail...they go and cling onto the next conspiracy theory that flutters their heart on the net and put all their eggs in that basket. Just for it to fail again in court. Rinse and repeat.

[mick silver]

http://www.picturesof.net/_images_300/A_Colorful_Cartoon_Boys_Playing_Outside_Watching_T heir_Toys_About_To_Crash_Royalty_Free_Clipart_Pict ure_100706-174037-278053.jpg

[Joshua01]

No, because I have a higher understanding. I dont just go around the net looking for answers that some other douche bag dreamed up because hes too damn lazy to do any real research. Took that research and applied it.
I wasnt scared to apply it and stand on the Constitution with both feet...it was really easy once you understand it. Didnt have t ogo to court either and saved the employer thousands each year. They like me...I'm very valuable to this company. Both the IRS and the SSA signed off....no problems from either for years now.

The IRS isnt the problem. The IRS isnt who you take to court like all the so called "guru's" out there seem to think (palani included).
The IRS is just a collection agnecy for the federal government.
Like all collection agencies they collect something that is due from another cause or reason.

Would you pay a collection agency if they tried to collect some money for something they made up? Or would you pay the collection agency whats due to them from a bill of a third party.
All these idiots ( including Palani) think and believe just that. They go after the collection agency who's was hired to do a specific job of collecting....and fail in court.....(typical so and so vs the IRS). So what do these idiots do when they fail...they go and cling onto the next conspiracy theory that flutters their heart on the net and put all their eggs in that basket. Just for it to fail again in court. Rinse and repeat.

It's clear that in many ways you're a brilliant man. If you could tone down your propensity for being a condescending old coot that brilliance would shine through more and you'll get your message across to more people. But that's just me. It may be that I'm not a good judge of character but I'm not often wrong either in that regard

[monty]

Constitution is dead


http://youtu.be/Q-LXsstfHe0

Two Federal Judges stealing liberty

https://youtu.be/Q-LXsstfHe0


http://youtu.be/UzMQSyAKMVs

[Dogman]

Constitution is dead

Video Link: http://youtu.be/Q-LXsstfHe0 (http://youtu.be/Q-LXsstfHe0)

Two Federal Judges stealing liberty

https://youtu.be/Q-LXsstfHe0

Video Link: http://youtu.be/UzMQSyAKMVs (http://youtu.be/UzMQSyAKMVs)

Been dam near dead for years, the pols running this joint now and the past have done "interpretations" of the Constitution longed than we have both been living!

What it says is what they want it to mean!

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forum runner

[monty]

Been dam near dead for years, the pols running this joint now and the past have done "interpretations" of the Constitution longed than we have both been living!

What it says is what they want it to mean!

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forum runner

True, and since the federal courts have stepped into the states business with a 98% win rate it gets worse by the day.

[monty]

True, and since the federal courts have stepped into the states business with a 98% win rate it gets worse by the day.

Yesterday in Montana


http://montana.redoubtnews.com/2016/07/20/joe-robertson-gets-ambushed-sentencing/

Joe Robertson Gets Ambushed At Sentencing

http://i0.wp.com/montana.redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/07/joe.png?zoom=2&resize=418%2C381Joe Robertson Gets Ambushed At Sentencing

By Shari Dovale (http://www.redoubtnews.com/?s=Shari+Dovale)

A farce of a sentencing trial took place today in Missoula, Montana for Joe Robertson (http://redoubtnews.com/blog/2016/05/13/montana-disabled-veteran-convicted-pond/), the 77 year old disabled veteran that was wrongly convicted of building a stock pond on his property.

The 3-1/2 hour hearing was, obviously, designed to upset the crowd that showed up to support Robertson. Over 3 dozen citizens (http://redoubtnews.com/blog/2016/06/06/plains-montana-rally-brings-patriots-together/) traveled from many states to stand by him today, showing solidarity.


http://i1.wp.com/montana.redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/07/crowd1.png?zoom=2&resize=309%2C211

The judge had several pages of speeches already written that were designed to upset (http://redoubtnews.com/blog/2016/06/08/hits-just-keep-coming-joe-robertson/) and offend the spectators and Joe. The hearing began with an hour long discussion of motions that were never truly considered by the judge, as he read his pre-written responses.


While describing the trial, the judge made statements that were derogatory and inflammatory against Joe, including saying that Joe’s comments about his “beautiful ponds” were non-responsive to the court. Judge Malloy also said that Joe was only attempting to gain sympathy with the jury through those statements, as if it were wrong for Joe to want the jury on his side.


Malloy commented on Joe’s attempts to bring evidence into the trial showing the EPA agents blatant manufacturing of evidence as “just not true” and that Joe’s “antics” were just making everyone’s job more difficult.


Malloy went on to say that one day when Joe was late for court, this just showed that Joe had a complete disregard for the law.


http://i1.wp.com/montana.redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/07/sasha2.jpg?zoom=2&resize=164%2C226
Sasha, Joe’s Service Dog, after the sentencing hearing.

Prosecutor Nelson had his turn next, and stood at the dais and completely maligned Joe and the spectators. At one point, Nelson turned to look at the crowd, waving his hands around at them, and implied that we were there because Joe flat out lied to them, and that was another reason that Joe should be locked up.


When he first started referencing the crowd, there was an audible commotion, as it was designed to do. Calls were heard of “incitement” and “offensive” and Judge Malloy decided it was time to start throwing people out of the courtroom. I was the second person removed as I “inappropriately coughed” when the people in the gallery were referenced as Joe’s “Malheur Friends.”


Additionally, Nelson referenced an interview with John Jacob Schmidt, from Radio Free Redoubt (https://radiofreeredoubt.com/), and said that Joe had threatened the Forest Service and the court with statements on the show saying that he (Robertson) will avail himself of his 2nd amendment rights.
Nelson said that the Forest Service Officials heard the threats and they had a “chilling effect on them.” This was to imply that Joe was a danger to society, all over a few stock ponds for fire prevention.


Nelson continued on with Robertson’s statements that the public defender was not doing his job. The prosecutor proceeded to defend the defense attorney for doing such a wonderful job, (and losing on every point). Don’t forget that Mike Donahoe, the defense attorney, refused to submit evidence of an environmental impact report that exonerated Robertson. There was an expert witness, Ray Kagel of Kagel Environmental (http://redoubtnews.com/blog/2016/06/03/kagel-environmental-epa-robertson/), on hand today to testify on Joe’s behalf. The Judge refused to allow not only the testimony, but the admittance of the report that Kagel prepared for him.


http://i1.wp.com/montana.redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/07/sasha1.jpg?zoom=2&resize=224%2C187
Sasha, still looking for her Master after they took him away in handcuffs.

The defense attorney, Mike Donahoe, must have been basking in this bliss because he never once made a single objection to the slanderous statements the Judge and the prosecutor were making. Not a single objection. He also did not attempt to have Kagel’s report or testimony admitted into the record, leaving that to Joe and the spectators to question.



The results of the hearing had Joe sentenced to 18 months in prison and 3 years of probation. They also fined him $130,000 to repair his “damage”, $12,000 in attorney fees, and other various fines.
They also stripped him of his second amendment rights for life, told him he was not to be with anyone that had guns, and he is not allowed to have any surveillance equipment, recording devices, or other protection at his home or on his person as they might interfere with the police.


They took him straight from the courtroom in handcuffs without even allowing him to say goodbye to his wife, Carri, or reassure his service dog, Sasha.


http://i0.wp.com/montana.redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/07/banner1.png?zoom=2&resize=300%2C171

This was a Kangaroo Court show that was worthy of an Oscar. It was an ambush from before it began. The Department of Homeland Security was in a building across the street, second floor, making every show of recording the protesters. The FBI made a huge presence for intimidation only.
The protesters, however, were expecting them, and did not feel the scare tactics. It takes Patriots like Joe and Carri Robertson, as well as the people that traveled to be with them today, to stare down this out-of-control government.


They have gone full Monty on the citizens and exposed the naked truth. The citizens of this country are under tyranny (http://redoubtnews.com/blog/2016/07/19/bundy-judge-composting-constitution/). We must take our country back!


The Americans Are Coming!


http://youtu.be/CKjyozhdpkU

[monty]

https://s19.postimg.org/8nmiyei8z/image.jpgc

Any decent judge who questioned the law would have dismissed the case.

[Joshua01]

https://s19.postimg.org/8nmiyei8z/image.jpgc

Any decent judge who questioned the law would have dismissed the case.

Welcome to the new Amerika comrade. Tow the line, pay your taxes and keep your mouth shut and you may not be procecuted

[monty]

I notice you say "may not" rather than shall not . . .

What happened to the America I grew up in?

[Joshua01]

I notice you say "may not" rather than shall not . . .

What happened to the America I grew up in?

In yesterday's America the rule of law was followed much more consistently. Today, not so much. The first ammendment has been circumvernted by a 'crime' termed 'hate speech'. The second ammendment has been circumvented by something called 'common sense gun control' I could go right down the list but I'm sure most people here know the drill. When I typed 'may not' it was intentional to reflect the way things are today in our police departments, our courts and our legislature. It has never been this easy in American history to get arrested, jailed and sentanced by simply minding your own business (Japanese internment camps in the US during the late 1940's not withstanding). What you and I remember is long gone from Amerika I'm afraid

[monty]

"We the People" Against Tyranny: Seven Principles for Free Government ~ John W. Whitehead

https://scontent.fbog2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11215505_10201175831033849_1508061155244900448_n.j pg?oh=bd43079302fe5beb5580a935e8f6e2fd&oe=594F512E

Karl P. Koenigs (https://www.facebook.com/Capt.Karl)‎Solidarity for Ninth and TENTH Amendments Coalition (https://www.facebook.com/events/1464895897101312/?acontext=%7B%22ref%22%3A%22106%22%2C%22action_his tory%22%3A%22null%22%7D)

September 14, 2015 · Edited (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201175831033849&set=gm.1624088831182017&type=3&theater#) ·

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http://youtu.be/VEwbMPM07ro

https://youtu.be/VEwbMPM07ro

[monty]

What does a long haired Harley rider have to say about the Constitution?

https://freedomfactor.org/


WHO WE ARE? WHAT WE DO?

In an increasingly divisive and high-tension political climate, our mission is to unite Americans on the 3 things the US Constitution was designed to protect: peace, prosperity, and freedom. Our goal is to distribute 100 million Pocket Constitutions, will you join us?


http://youtu.be/tuCgyUN9-Jk

https://youtu.be/tuCgyUN9-Jk


Join the Freedom Core Team. A group of Americans who have committed to do 3 things:

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[crimethink]

"The Constitution" has failed. Time to invoke the Declaration instead.

[monty]

"The Constitution" has failed. Time to invoke the Declaration instead.


yes, very true

[collector]

"The Constitution" has failed. Time to invoke the Declaration instead.

The SCOTUS has been compromised beyond repair, and there re no penalties for violating the supreme law of the land

[Dogman]

Funny seems like the hard right are doing most of the crap, but what he hay, this crowd here, is many ways are beyond the hard right into ludicrous right, that in the real world would last probably less than a nanosecond.

High entertainment.

[crimethink]

The SCOTUS has been compromised beyond repair, and there re no penalties for violating the supreme law of the land

There are - the clause for treason - but no one will to apply it, in part because those of the greatest guilt would be involved in applying justice.

Any black-robed pervert who makes war on the Bill of Rights or the main Constitution should suffer death for treason.

It's the reason I distinguish between "unconstitutional" and "anti-constitutional." The former is based on honest but flawed logic; the latter on deliberately perverted intention.

[crimethink]

Funny seems like the hard right are doing most of the crap, but what he hay, this crowd here, is many ways are beyond the hard right into ludicrous right, that in the real world would last probably less than a nanosecond.

The illuminated one from the Lodge speaks!

[Dogman]

Tick, chigger or misquote..

That is the ultimate question.... I need to dig some toe jam out and see what it says..

;D

[monty]

Dr. Edwin Vieira sheds some light on the Constitution. . . . the video cleary illustrates how the police state we are living in today evolved simply because We The People failed to maintain the Constitutional Militia the founders said is necessary to the security of a free state



http://youtu.be/lrD9ZpaPtTo

https://youtu.be/lrD9ZpaPtTo

[ziero0]

We The People failed to maintain the Constitutional Militia the founders said is necessary to the security of a free state

"The constitution" is a charitable trust. It is not the function of the beneficiary to maintain a trust. That function belongs to the fiduciary(s). The federal government was never about any sort of state whatsoever either. The beneficiaries of the trust established are 'the several States'. To proclaim this view at this point in time in the twenty-first century is to invite the criticism of being a nationalist or attempting 'Balkanization'.

[Cebu_4_2]

^ Fred.

[JDRock]

I said goodbye.... in 1865

[monty]

I said goodbye.... in 1865

Quoted for truth

[midnight rambler]

I don't agree with the 1865 date, my take is that the end was on 24 April 1863. However some may make a reasonable case for the date being in 1861.

[ziero0]

I don't agree with the 1865 date, my take is that the end was on 24 April 1863. However some may make a reasonable case for the date being in 1861.

Even earlier. The year 1812 comes to mind when the British captured the capital and burned it.

[JDRock]

It was 1865 when lee surrendered to the drunken athiest Grant. Government of the people by the people and for the people perished from the earth that day. Oh and btw the very sword he surrendered was inherited from his maternal grandfather the very sword of geo washington. Still want to change the date?

[monty]

The Death of the Constitution, Let’s Make America Free Again, John W. Whitehead ~ Rutherford Institute.

Mainly under attack is the Bill of Rights which is supposed to hold the government at bay, but in the police state we are living under the Bill of Rights is nearly completely shredded. Probably this is not news to the membersp here, but to the masses it should be shocking.



http://youtu.be/2uZo8Te9yuM


https://youtu.be/2uZo8Te9yuM