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midnight rambler
14th July 2016, 10:26 AM
http://www.rollcall.com/mike-pence-chosen-as-trumps-v-p-nominee/

Ponce
14th July 2016, 11:00 AM
My name is "Ponce" not PENCE......... GET IT RIGHT GUYS.......every time you read Pence you will think of "PONCE"......lollllllllll

V

EE_
14th July 2016, 11:03 AM
I think it's going to be Omarosa

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/MAXIM+Birthday+Celebration+QAYPg0Zu9Hax.jpg

EE_
14th July 2016, 11:04 AM
My name is "Ponce" not PENCE......... GET IT RIGHT GUYS.......every time you read Pence you will think of "PONCE"......lollllllllll

V

Pence is a Ponce!

skidmark
14th July 2016, 11:50 AM
Wonder if back stabber Nafta Newt is already plotting his revenge.

Dogman
14th July 2016, 12:46 PM
maybe better being a Pence or Ponce as long it is not

penis or pecker !


;D

hoarder
14th July 2016, 01:03 PM
Pence looks like he had a nose job.

cheka.
14th July 2016, 02:07 PM
what demo does he bring in that will win the 4 states that are deciding the thing? florida, penn, ohio...and i forgot the other one

a conservative hispanic may have got florida -- penn and ohio somebody that champions the import tariff so they can start rebuilding

midnight rambler
15th July 2016, 12:39 PM
Pence is HUGE free trade proponent -

http://qz.com/732245/mike-pence-trumps-likely-running-mate-has-backed-every-free-trade-deal-in-the-last-15-years/

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/mike-pence-donald-trump-free-trade (http://qz.com/732245/mike-pence-trumps-likely-running-mate-has-backed-every-free-trade-deal-in-the-last-15-years/)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/14/so-mike-pence-has-been-a-huge-supporter-of-the-thing-donald-trump-says-is-terrible-for-america/

Shami-Amourae
15th July 2016, 12:53 PM
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1468/54/1468542941453.png


It's not Pence until Trump says it is. The fact he hasn't said it probably means it isn't.

EE_
15th July 2016, 02:15 PM
It's Pence, Trump said so. I'm having bumper stickers made up TRUMP/PONCE IN 2016!

What does Ponce bring to the table you ask? Well, he brings Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, Mitt Romney...pretty much everyone we voted against with Trump. The establishment now has a way to support Trump and save face, er I mean save their jobs on the money train.

Ponce
15th July 2016, 02:27 PM
And don't forget.......lots of toilet paper hahahahahhaha....................PONCE FOR TRUMP.

V

Dogman
15th July 2016, 02:39 PM
And don't forget.......lots of toilet paper hahahahahhaha....................PONCE FOR TRUMP.

V

Helpful to help clean any possible mess !

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madfranks
15th July 2016, 03:54 PM
Trump-Pence sounds like Trumpets when said quickly. I wonder if that was planned...?

Ares
15th July 2016, 03:57 PM
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1468/54/1468542941453.png


It's not Pence until Trump says it is. The fact he hasn't said it probably means it isn't.


Donald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump

I am pleased to announce that I have chosen Governor Mike Pence as my Vice Presidential running mate. News conference tomorrow at 11:00 A.M.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/753965070003109888?lang=en

JohnQPublic
15th July 2016, 04:16 PM
Kind of a neutral pick. Nothing to get excited about, nothing out of the ordinary for a Republican.

EE_
15th July 2016, 04:19 PM
Kind of a neutral pick. Nothing to get excited about, nothing out of the ordinary for a Republican.

You can learn more about Ponce tonight on Hannity

Shami-Amourae
15th July 2016, 04:24 PM
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midnight rambler
15th July 2016, 04:37 PM
What a dick.

EE_
15th July 2016, 05:06 PM
What a dick.

None of the republicans, or the conservative media has said this, but Pence IS the establishment!

The good news is all the establishment elite get to keep their jobs, they get some control over Trump and Ryan, Cruz and Rubio can now endorse the party and get reelected in their states. Everyone is happy!

New RNC slogan...Vote for the Establishment, Vote *PENCE* and trump!

Jerrylynnb
15th July 2016, 05:20 PM
I have to throw in my two cents.

BLAST!

I was half expecting Trump to take all 50 states (who, but homos, lesbos. and transjos, would vote for the HAG?), provided he picked a running mate "LIKE HIM!" He is so anti-establishment, and it seemed like his appeal was growing, it looked like *we the public* were finally going to get a champion to run the government. NIX!

By picking an establishment prick, he is somehow kicking those of us, who were falling for his appeal, right in the gut.

This is VERY disappointing - I have to dwell on this for a while, but, I think maybe he just lost a whole lot of supporters - he might even lose to the HAG, as time goes on and this selection sinks in. After all, this was his very first PRESIDENTIAL act - and he demonstrated extremely poor judgement, unless he was just putting on an act for us all along.

EE_
15th July 2016, 05:26 PM
I have to throw in my two cents.

BLAST!

I was half expecting Trump to take all 50 states (who, but homos, lesbos. and transjos, would vote for the HAG?), provided he picked a running mate "LIKE HIM!" He is so anti-establishment, and it seemed like his appeal was growing, it looked like *we the public* were finally going to get a champion to run the government. NIX!

By picking an establishment prick, he is somehow kicking those of us, who were falling for his appeal, right in the gut.

This is VERY disappointing - I have to dwell on this for a while, but, I think maybe he just lost a whole lot of supporters - he might even lose to the HAG, as time goes on and this selection sinks in. After all, this was his very first PRESIDENTIAL act - and he demonstrated extremely poor judgement, unless he was just putting on an act for us all along.

We still have to support him, at least until he's president. After we can attack him for selling out to the establishment. Hillary is not an option!

Campaign slogan: Vote Trump, he's better then Hillary

Watch Hannity tonight, hopefully he will ask Ponce the right questions?

goldleaf
15th July 2016, 05:45 PM
Maybe it was a strategy move to get through the convention unscathed. Who knows what the repukes had planned for the convention. I don't like it but what does the V.P. do anyway, usually not much. Pence wouldn't be much of a threat running as president in 4 years, about like Biden in that department.

EE_
15th July 2016, 05:47 PM
Maybe it was a strategy move to get through the convention unscathed. Who knows what the repukes had planned for the convention. I don't like it but what does the V.P. do anyway, usually not much. Pence wouldn't be much of a threat running as president in 4 years, about like Biden in that department.

A 'never trump' guy was on Fox business news, he said they have one more trick for Trump at the convention.



ALLLLL ABOARD!
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Horn
15th July 2016, 06:08 PM
If they had a photo in the dictionary next to Warhawk, this guy looks enough to fit that bill.

latent homo type.

madfranks
15th July 2016, 06:29 PM
Maybe it was a strategy move to get through the convention unscathed. Who knows what the repukes had planned for the convention. I don't like it but what does the V.P. do anyway, usually not much. Pence wouldn't be much of a threat running as president in 4 years, about like Biden in that department.

I didn't think about it that way, but you may be right!

vacuum
15th July 2016, 11:22 PM
In Trump's mind, he wants to get legislation passed once he becomes president.

Two "Trumps" would be great at giving rallies, but at the end of the day he needs to work with congress cucks if he wants to get laws passed.

Unless we'd prefer him to take us into martial law, he's going to have to work with the system to change it. If his first term is successful, then he will be much more powerful than he is right now. At that point, he could freely pick a Trump republican VP.

Shami-Amourae
15th July 2016, 11:23 PM
In Trump's mind, he wants to get legislation passed once he becomes president.

Two "Trumps" would be great at giving rallies, but at the end of the day he needs to work with congress cucks if he wants to get laws passed.

Unless we'd prefer him to take us into martial law, he's going to have to work with the system to change it. If his first term is successful, then he will be much more powerful than he is right now. At that point, he could freely pick a Trump republican VP.

Pence is in between being a Neo-Con and a Tea Partier, so he's palatable to both factions. Basically Ted Cruz, just less creepy.

hoarder
16th July 2016, 05:54 AM
In Trump's mind, he wants to get legislation passed once he becomes president.

Two "Trumps" would be great at giving rallies, but at the end of the day he needs to work with congress cucks if he wants to get laws passed.

Unless we'd prefer him to take us into martial law, he's going to have to work with the system to change it. If his first term is successful, then he will be much more powerful than he is right now. At that point, he could freely pick a Trump republican VP.We don't need any laws passed, we need laws taken off the books. The kind of laws that revealed the original intention, which were not the same as the stated intention.

Glass
16th July 2016, 06:04 AM
We don't need any laws passed, we need laws taken off the books. The kind of laws that revealed the original intention, which were not the same as the stated intention.

no child not screwed over
universal health system collapse
all the laws spreading "peace"
everything to do with the war of drugs
guns, obviously
and IRS
Noahide laws

and maybe get some laws enforced:
various amendments
the ones about espionage
selling your office for self profit
anti trust laws
corporate income tax
being a pervert
visas

hoarder
16th July 2016, 06:32 AM
and maybe get some laws enforced:
various admendments
the ones about espionage
selling your office for self profit
anti trust laws
corporate income tax
being a pervert
visasMost of those laws are already on the books.

Glass
16th July 2016, 06:36 AM
Most of those laws are already on the books.

yep



and maybe get some laws enforced:

monty
16th July 2016, 02:08 PM
Video at link



Trumps Secret Weapon is Ivanka



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Donald Trump (http://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) has a secret weapon as he seeks to burnish his image in Cleveland: his daughter Ivanka Trump.
A mogul in her own right, Ivanka Trump has become her father’s most effective surrogate, softening the edges of Donald Trump’s brash and often controversial presidential campaign.

And she’s being called upon to play that role again in the spotlight of this week’s Republican National Convention.

“She’s seen much differently than her father — she certainly has a classier, more reasoned reputation, and she’s beloved by a lot of the people her father is not beloved by,” said Robert Thompson, a Syracuse University communications professor.

Expectations are high for her speech, with some seeing it as the presumptive nominee’s best chance to push back on accusations of sexism.
Ivanka Trump, 34, has addressed those charges head on before, calling her father a “feminist” who has been unfairly characterized by the press.
She has won widespread praise in defense of her father, even from some of his critics.

“I think Ivanka Trump has been Donald Trump’s best surrogate,” said Doug Heye, a former Republican National Committee aide who doesn’t support Trump.

“Unlike her father, she always appears poised and thoughtful, so I’m not surprised that she has such a prominent role in the campaign and the convention.”

Like her father, Ivanka Trump was largely a household name well before his meteoric political rise. She played a pivotal role in later seasons of NBC’s “The Apprentice,” graced magazine covers for her work as a model and has her own fashion line.

She’s an active part of the family business and has emerged as a trusted adviser throughout his presidential campaign.

While much of the political world scoffed at the prospect of Donald Trump’s candidacy, it was Ivanka who took the stage in Trump Tower in June 2015 to tout her father as the only man “bold and independent” enough to put the country back on track.

She traveled the campaign trail in Iowa despite being seven months pregnant, reportedly played a central role in her father’s dismissal of former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, and attended high-level meetings last week with the campaign’s vice presidential finalists.

Her visibility prompted a number of Trump allies to only half-jokingly suggest that she should join the ticket.

“His best running mate, by the way, would be Ivanka,” said Sen. Bob Corker (http://thehill.com/people/bob-corker) (R-Tenn.) in an interview with MSNBC this month just after meeting with Donald Trump and withdrawing his name from the vice presidential race.

“I know that wouldn’t pass muster, probably, but I don’t know if I’ve ever met a more composed, brilliant, beautiful-in-every-way person.”
A summa cum laude graduate of the Wharton School — where her father also attended — Ivanka Trump has been described by the media as very much like her dad, though that may not be apparent to the public.

A 2007 New York Times article said Donald Trump’s second-oldest child “inherited her father’s prodigious flair for self-promotion” and is “her father’s daughter to the bone.”

That same year, Marie Claire magazine said “Ivanka has clearly inherited a little of her father’s P.T. Barnum instincts, as well as his liberal way with superlatives.”

But it’s the contrast in style, one that has allowed her to rise above much of the criticism lobbed at her father, that plays to Trump’s advantage.
Her active role in his campaign, Heye said, helps to portray the candidate as a “good parent,” which could help his appeal.
“Whatever else is said about Trump by people who don’t support him, of which I am obviously one, she and his sons speak to the fact that he’s raised a good family, and that’s obviously an asset,” he said.

She has repeatedly been deployed as a counterweight to her father’s most controversial comments, especially involving women.
Ivanka Trump appeared on “CBS This Morning” in May to do damage control after a New York Times story detailed her father’s relationships with women. She swatted aside the “discredited” piece and said he has a history of promoting women in business. And in June, she declared him a “feminist” father who told her she could do anything she set her mind to.

Her husband, Jared Kushner, for whom she converted to Orthodox Judaism before their marriage in 2009, has also become a trusted adviser and defender. He reportedly played an important role in Donald Trump’s speech to a major Jewish Republican group last year and penned an opinion piece lambasting those who labeled Trump as an anti-Semite after he tweeted an image that included a six-pointed star and a wall of money.

This week, she’ll step into her biggest challenge: attempting to convince female voters to have a Trump renaissance.
Her father can use all the help he can get with women. More than three-quarters surveyed by ABC News and The Washington Post said they held an unfavorable view of Trump. And other polls are similarly dismal.

“Her goal is to personalize her father and describe the qualities she sees in Donald Trump that other people have had problems seeing,” GOP strategist Ron Bonjean said.

“There’s no better platform for Ivanka Trump to make the case for her father and gender equality than the Republican convention. This is where Republicans are supposed to come together as a party behind the Republican nominee. Having a message like that to millions of voters would be extremely helpful.”

Despite the praise, some preach caution about Ivanka Trump meeting such lofty expectations, even if she gives a flawless speech.
Because, for all the damage control she has helped with over the past year, it does not appear to have persuaded many female voters.
“That has got to be one rhetorical sleight of hand if she’s going to get a woman who has been slowly but surely simmering about all these things Trump has been saying about women that is offensive, and then have her listen to Ivanka Trump and go ‘Oh OK, maybe I feel differently now. He gets my vote,’ ” said Thompson.

“That’s got to be one whopper of a speech to do that.”

But if his daughter is able to deliver, Donald Trump could have a message to hold on to as he desperately tries to peel female voters away from Democratic rival Hillary Clinton (http://thehill.com/people/hillary-clinton).

“If she makes the right speech,” Bonjean said, “the Trump campaign should bottle her comments up and deploy them in key battleground states to … soften the ground.”

Trump's other adult kids

Eric Trump
Eric, 32, has had an active presence in Trump’s campaign and will speak at the convention.

An executive vice president at The Trump Organization and the owner of Trump Winery, Eric Trump has been a vocal surrogate for his father, appearing regularly on Fox News shows.

Eric Trump has emerged as a vocal attack dog for his father, swatting away questions about Donald Trump’s charitable giving.
Outside of the business world, Eric Trump is active in his own philanthropy, The Eric Trump Foundation, which raises money for St. Jude’s Research Center.

Donald Trump Jr.
Donald Trump Jr., 38, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee’s oldest son, has played a large role in the presidential campaign.
An executive vice president of The Trump Organization, Trump Jr. will also speak this week.

Trump Jr. has joined Eric Trump in sending fundraising letters to supporters and has emerged alongside his siblings Eric and Ivanka as top advisers to their father.

Commercial real estate magazine Bisnow described him as the “calmer Trump.”

Tiffany Trump
Tiffany, 22, graduated this spring from her father’s alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, in the College of Arts and Sciences. She will also speak at the convention.

Raised in Los Angeles by Trump’s second wife, Marla Maples, Tiffany has made a name for herself in social media circles, with 156,000 Instagram followers.

In a November interview with Barbara Walters, Tiffany said of her father, “He’s true to himself. And he speaks in a way that the average person can understand. I think that’s refreshing for everyone.”

— Ben Kamisar




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cheka.
16th July 2016, 02:20 PM
saw a bunch of neocon quotes praising the prick..err pick

Shami-Amourae
16th July 2016, 02:25 PM
saw a bunch of neocon quotes praising the prick..err pick

Race Bannon as VP can't be that bad, can it?

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EE_
16th July 2016, 02:54 PM
I'm warming up to Pence. I understand why Trump had to pull in a staunch conservative, it's because there are still many establishment type repubs attacking him right up to the convention. If Trump picked a maverick outsider, they would have crucified him. Trump had to do it.

Speaking of butthurt...this big dumb baby can't stop crying.

Jeb Bush trashes Trump on eve of GOP convention
Teddy Schleifer
By Theodore Schleifer, CNN
Updated 8:11 PM ET, Fri July 15, 2016

Jeb Bush is carrying his crusade against Donald Trump to the doorstep of the Republican convention
Bush also actively floated supporting the Libertarian ticket in the fall

Washington (CNN)Jeb Bush is carrying his crusade against Donald Trump to the doorstep of the Republican convention, saying that he is not the future of the Republican Party even as it prepares to nominate him.

Bush, once seen as the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, remains one of the most prominent anti-Trump holdouts in the GOP. In an op-ed for The Washington Post published Friday, Bush acknowledged that Trump had capitalized on legitimate frustrations with American politics.

"They have given rise to the success of a candidate who continues to grotesquely manipulate the deeply felt anger of many Americans," Bush wrote, saying the nominee harkened back to an 1850s political party. "Trump's abrasive, Know Nothing-like nativist rhetoric has blocked out sober discourse about how to tackle America's big challenges."

Bush's op-ed continues his vehement opposition to Trump. During the primaries, he and Trump regularly traded shots on the campaign trail, with the real estate mogul memorably labeling him "low-energy." After Bush dropped out following the South Carolina primary, he vowed that he would not vote for Trump and does not plan to attend the Republican National Convention.

Later Friday, he offered a backhanded compliment of Trump's decision to choose Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his running mate, tweeting, "Mike Pence is a good man. He will add value to the ticket."

In his op-ed, the former Florida governor implored Republicans to protect their control of Congress, and called on the party to "reintroduce civility, ideas and optimism back into politics. Let's find ways to campaign and govern inclusively. Let's find ways to ease the angst and fear of people, without cynically feeding it."

Bush, a lifelong Republican from a family that produced two Republican presidents, also floated the idea of supporting the Libertarian ticket in the fall.

"I haven't decided how I'll vote in November -- whether I'll support the Libertarian ticket or write in a candidate -- but I do know there are a lot of things Republicans can do in the coming months to lay the groundwork for rebuilding our party and the foundation for a true conservative renewal in our country."

Bush isn't the first anti-Trump Republican to suggest that he might vote Libertarian this fall. Last month, 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney also said he would consider voting for the Libertarian ticket, though he noted he had policy differences with them.

The Republican National Convention begins Monday in Cleveland.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/jeb-bush-trashes-donald-trump-on-eve-of-republican-convention/index.html

Ponce
16th July 2016, 03:39 PM
Ivanka could very well be the next female president.......Jewish? nawwwwwwwwww.

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StreetsOfGold
16th July 2016, 04:07 PM
Ivanka could very well be the next female president.......Jewish? nawwwwwwwwww.

V

No need to concern yourself about the ethnicity, (irrelevant) LOOK AT THE TRAINING!!
Most likely ALL picks WILL BE JESUIT trained!

vacuum
16th July 2016, 04:20 PM
Pence interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zf2Pewgi9I

PatColo
19th July 2016, 12:33 AM
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(http://www.renegadetribune.com/trump-make-mistake-pence/)
(http://www.renegadetribune.com/trump-make-mistake-pence/)
Did Trump Make a Mistake with Pence? (http://www.renegadetribune.com/trump-make-mistake-pence/)

July 17, 2016 (http://www.renegadetribune.com/trump-make-mistake-pence/) Jeff Wilkerson (http://www.renegadetribune.com/author/jeff-wilkerson/) 5 Comments

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In deference to his over-bearing son-in-law Jared Kushner’s opposition to Gov. Chris Christie as his running mate, and not wanting to alienate himself from his daughter Ivanka, Donald Trump reluctantly chose conservative leader and self-described “evangelical catholic” Mike Pence of Indiana. Pence has described himself as a “pretty ordinary Christian” and as “a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order.”


Christie, who endorsed Trump shortly after ending his own presidential campaigns, is heading the mogul’s transition team. Kushner, who married Trump’s eldest daughter Ivanka in 2009, is a close adviser to his father-in-law.


Trump’s reluctance adds credence to rumors that his children and political advisors sparred over the VP appointment. The buzz is that Paul Manafort favored Pence while influential son-in-law Kushner favored former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Donald favored Christie but Jared was vehemently against that choice. It appears that Governor Christie had sent his father, Charles Kushner, to prison in Alabama for two years. As a result of this, as revenge, the young Kushner blocked Christie from becoming Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee.


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Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner

So the story goes, back in the summer of 2004, Chris Christie, then-U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, negotiated a plea agreement with Charles Kushner, the head of a $2 billion real estate company and one of the most cunning and ruthless men in the state. Were it not for Christie’s investigation, Kushner, a close ally of then-governor Jim McGreevey, would likely have been appointed the chairman of the New York-New Jersey Port Authority—a position that would have given him influence over billions of dollars in government contracts.


The elder Kushner was accused, among other things, of blackmailing his brother-in-law—a federal witness—by setting him up with a call-girl and filming their sexual exchanges. In August 2004, he pleaded guilty to 18 felony counts of tax fraud, election violations, and witness tampering and for these misdeeds; he was sentenced to two years in federal prison in Montgomery. Jered would fly down every Sunday to visit him.


These events do not show the Trump campaign in a good light. The selection of a running-mate is a very important event for both Trump, himself, and the course of the country’s political events. These back-room antics and petty family vendettas should not be a part of this selection process. Vice President Pence might be a good addition to the Trump administration, and for that matter, for America, or, he might be a “bad fit” or maybe even part of a nightmare. Who knows?


In choosing Mike Pence as his running mate, Donald Trump has shored up the GOP’s religious base. Given that evangelical Christians comprise 48 percent of Republican primary voters, that is important. The Republican voter base is comprised of three sectors: You have the establishment conservatives, the so-called RINOs, these are people who are fiscal conservatives and are socially moderate or secular in orientation (e.g., Mitt Romney, the Bushes, Henry Kissinger), you have the right-wing, which is comprised of populists, nationalist, and racialists. This is the sector that Romney ignored in ’12 and it cost him the election—the white male voter didn’t come out in enough numbers–and then you have the evangelicals.


Trump has sort of marginalized the party establishment—he’s sent the Bushes packing. This leaves us the two remaining sectors: the populists and the evangelicals. The anti-establishment Trump energized his right-wing base during the primaries and now has chosen an evangelical as his running-mate. Everything looks great, right?


Not necessarily, for these two groups—the populists and the evangelicals–don’t always see eye-to-eye. One bone of contention is Israel and America’s relationship with this Jewish state.


Trump, early in the primaries, alienated himself from this wealthy and influential group. Speaking at the Republican Jewish Coalition Forum in Washington, back on December 2, 2015, Trump was booed when he declined to state whether he believed Jerusalem was the “undivided capital” of Israel. His speech also contained a few interesting quotes. He begins by saying: “You just like me because my daughter happens to be Jewish,” then, “The only bad news, I can’t get her on Saturday!”, next, “Is there anyone in this room who doesn’t renegotiate deals? Probably 99% of you. Probably more than any room I’ve ever spoken in.” and then: “I’m a negotiator, like you folks,” and finally: “Stupidly, you want to give money. . . But you’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money.” “You want to control your own politicians,” he added. This insolence and many other examples of it has gotten him in “hot water” with the Jewish community and has prompted accusations of anti-Semitism.


Mike Pence was raised Catholic and later attended an evangelical megachurch. Growing up in an Irish Catholic family that reportedly revered the Kennedys, he served as an altar boy and went to parochial school in Columbus, Indiana.


Pence has said he made that “commitment to Christ” while taking part in a non-denominational Christian student group in college. He had told The Indianapolis Star that he and his family attended Grace Evangelical Church in the 1990s, but by 2013, he told another media outlet, that they were “kind of looking for a church.”


Pundits have said one reason Trump picked Pence is that the governor’s strong pro-Israel sentiment would shore up Trump’s shaky relationship with Jewish voters. Speaking before AIPAC in 2009, then-Rep. Pence linked his support for Israel with his faith:



Let me say emphatically, like the overwhelming majority of my constituents, my Christian faith compels me to cherish the state of Israel.



This statement confirms the criticism that has been made of evangelicals that they are old-testament bound and feel the Jews are god’s chosen and are to reign supreme among other men and other races of the world—a sort of supremacism if you will.


He backed that up last December at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s conference when he said:


Israel’s enemies are our enemies, Israel’s cause is our cause. If this world knows nothing else, let it know this: America stands with Israel.



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Pence and Bibi


Pence has maintained a strong relationship with AIPAC, the Washington-based pro-Israel lobbying organization. A political conservative, he was a member of the House in 2001-13, where he advocated strong military defense aid for Israel. This year he signed a bill that would divest his state from local businesses that take part in the anti-Israel BDS (boycott, divestment, and sanctions) movement. Despite coming from a state with a small Jewish population (about 17,000), he was a vocal critic of the nuclear accord the United States signed with Iran last year, calling it “deficient” and a threat to Israel.

Has Trump made a mistake in picking this man for his running-mate? Is he trying to consolidate his base? Does he feel he’s in over his head with this populist stuff and wants to appear more Republican? Will these two men’s vision clash or will they find common ground? Will Trump still be the Populist hero that we need, and if he decides to be, will Pence come along? One thing he needs his running-mate to do if and when he falls is pick-up his banner. Will Pence fly a populist banner?

http://www.renegadetribune.com/trump-make-mistake-pence/ < see reader comments there :)

monty
14th August 2016, 11:51 AM
Politicians, like used car salesmen are not to be trusted be trusted.


Proof That Trump’s VP Mike Pence Has KIDNAPPED an Innocent Man Under the Jesuit’s NDAA “Law”

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i.imgur.com/XJrN6Du.png?1

So the question has been raised. Has Governor Mike Pence suspended the writ of Habeas Corpus in the state of Indiana?

To properly assess the validity of this question, we must first look at the scenario presented. Meet Brent Swallers:
https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p206x206/13015516_989786091057611_7165007260577451660_n.jpg ?oh=0b2fbe1389361e6a8114f97fd1266c48&oe=582CBBCA

Please understand, this is not “Doxing”, as I have been asked to make sure this man’s story gets known.

From what one can see, it is possible that Brent Swallers was at some point a Mike Pence supporter. I do not know Brent personally, so I cannot confirm or deny this. Based on his facial expression in the image, I would ASSUME the man is happy to be standing next to Governor Pence.

Well, Brent was very much trying to get involved in his daughter’s life because of some confusion that had come about due to the Department of Childcare Services, and in the process Brent reached out to Governor Pence. Well, based on the picture and the interactions I have seen with my own eyes, I can assume that initially Governor Pence was responsive to Brent.

The issue at hand is that Brent is part of the “Father’s Rights Movement”

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p206x206/13102775_994199250616295_2978309668969740988_n.jpg ?oh=5793175e321eec3fe7aa64fea819afb0&oe=5814A88A

Brent was fighting to be a part of his daughter’s life. He felt that he was unfairly lumped into the system as one of the “bad fathers” due to court mishandling of documents. So as any good father would do, he fought back against the system. In the process, it became pretty clear that his case had been mishandled. Rather than attempt to fix the problem, Governor Pence decided to get rid of the problem and Brent with it.

Currently Brent is being held with no right to council, and is potentially going to be moved to another state away from his family and friends, without them having any access. I know first hand and have the documented evidence that Brent filed a civil suit against Governor Pence in 2014, and since being named as Vice Presidential Candidate, Governor Pence has seemingly approved the indefinite detainment of Mr. Swallers to ensure that this issue does not make it out before the election.

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/tabalitigi/pence%20document_zpsd2mobbtg.jpg

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/tabalitigi/Brent%20Taken%20and%20Carried%20Away%20_Page_1_zps exn45ifr.jpg

https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/tabalitigi/Brent%20Taken%20and%20Carried%20Away%20_Page_2_zps ljahmocr.jpg

As I gather more information, and learn more about this issue, I will release what I know and can objectively find. Please do not forget Mr. Swallers.

He deserves right to fair trial and council, and is not receiving it.


https://patriotnewstwo.wordpress.com/2016/08/14/proof-that-trumps-vp-mike-pence-has-kidnapped-an-innocent-man-under-the-jesuits-ndaa-law/?blogsub=confirming#subscribe-blog