How much more money pediatricians make for pushing vaccinations...

[ximmy]

Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child. If your pediatrician has just 100 fully-vaccinated patients turning 2 this year, that’s $40,000.Yes, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays your doctor a $40,000 bonus for fully vaccinating 100 patients under the age of 2. If your doctor manages to fully vaccinate 200 patients, that bonus jumps to $80,000.

But here’s the catch: Under Blue Cross Blue Shield’s rules, pediatricians lose the whole bonus unless at least 63% of patients are fully vaccinated, and that includes the flu vaccine. So it’s not just $400 on your child’s head–it could be the whole bonus. To your doctor, your decision to vaccinate your child might be worth $40,000, or much more, depending on the size of his or her practice.

https://wellnessandequality.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/bcbs_providerincentiveprogram1.png?w=840
If your pediatrician recommends that your child under the age of 2 receive the flu vaccine–even though the flu vaccine has never been studied in very young children and evidence suggests that the flu vaccine actually weakens a person’s immune system over the long term (https://www.statnews.com/2015/11/11/flu-shots-reduce-effectiveness/)–ask yourself: Is my doctor more concerned with selling me vaccines to keep my child healthy or to send his child to private school?


Full story at link: http://www.stage2omega.com/how-much-money-do-pediatricians-really-make-from-vaccines/

[Cebu_4_2]

The vax schedule is written funny. Now that my kid is over 2 she is exempt from a bunch that she was already supposed to get.

[Dogman]

Not sure now,

But back when

I remember a bunch of people/kids in wheelchairs and or in iron lungs in the 50's and up to the early 70's because of polio..

Also seen a few common childhood illness dam near dissapear because of them being stuck with a needle or such into people.

But seeing people suffering from polio is seared into my mind, anyone reading this ever seen this ?

Most old farts or ones in training probably had, unless they lived a very sheltered life.

Many a kid or adult were wheelchair bound or wearing braces and using crutches to get around..?

The very unlucky were bed ridden that to live HAD to have a machine breath for them and had a very short life..

Just my dos centavos...

In general...

I have always understood that vaccines are not 100% safe for everyone which is a gamble, but who has ever said that life is..

Your roll the dice and deal with what comes up.

Most win, some do not..

[Glass]

I have always understood that vaccines are not 100% safe for everyone which is a gamble, but who has ever said that life is..

Your roll the dice and deal with what comes up.

Most win, some do not..

I staggered you could say this. They should be 100% safe or they should not be sold.

AND they are deliberately making them harmful. The polio vaccine is why cancer is rampant
AND they expect cancer rates to reach 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women.
AND they knew it had cancer in it even before they started distributing it back in the 60's.
AND they decided not to scrap the vaccine because the SPENT SO MUCH MONEY MAKING IT and would LOSE THAT MONEY.
AND they tell everyone they fixed it in 1999 but they only changed the delivery method not the seed source used to manufacture
AND now they try and hide that they put mercury in it STILL.
AND they put cancer treatment blockers in it.
AND the polio vaccine is spreading polio through out the third world - See Bill Gates and Co.
AND the flu vaccine - nasal spray is -ve 23% effective. Negative effective meaning it spreads flu
AND people vaccinated SHED THE VIRUS after they are vaccinated
AND Whooping Cough vaccine is the main vector for Whooping cough in children today. - 40 days contagious after vaccination
AND MMR causes Autism and the UK Government has been covering this one up since the 1970's - I've read their committee minutes where they remove the evidential statistics and the medical reports of injured parties. Nothing to see here.

There may have been good intent but now it's a weapon and to say well it's a crap shoot, life's a gamble, be lucky, is appalling. Say that to the parents of dead and damaged kids. It's ok so long as its not kids.

[hoarder]

I have always understood that vaccines are not 100% safe for everyone which is a gamble, but who has ever said that life is..It is 100% safe for Jews if all the goyim get injected.

[Dogman]

I staggered you could say this. They should be 100% safe or they should not be sold.

AND they are deliberately making them harmful. The polio vaccine is why cancer is rampant
AND they expect cancer rates to reach 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women.
AND they knew it had cancer in it even before they started distributing it back in the 60's.
AND they decided not to scrap the vaccine because the SPENT SO MUCH MONEY MAKING IT and would LOSE THAT MONEY.
AND now they try and hide that they put mercury in it STILL.
AND they put cancer treatment blockers in it.
AND the polio vaccine is spreading polio through out the third world
AND the flue vaccine - nasal spray is -ve 23% effective. Negative effective meaning it spreads
AND people vaccinated SHED THE VIRUS after they are vaccinated
AND Whooping Cough vaccine is the main vector for Whooping cough in children today.
AND it causes Autism and the UK Government has been covering this one up since the 1970's - I've read their committee minutes where they remove the evidential statistics and the medical reports of injured parties. Nothing to see here.

There may have been good intent but now it's a weapon and to say well it's a crap shoot, life's a gamble, be lucky, is appalling. Say that to the parents of dead and damaged kids. It's ok so long as its not kids. NOt a dam thing can be guaranteed in life safe for everyone..

I do the vaccine thing but do admit I sweat it every time I get one, Rolling the dice..

Nothing is universal for everyone, for the majority, probably yes, but all no..

[Twisted Titan]

just had to go the death dealer last week after a 3 year hiatus

first thing out of her mouth was ......... i know you dont do vaccines but I just wanted to show you what she has missed thus far.

and for almost 4 minutes she flapped her gumbs

as a added bonus she offered a script for floride supplements because our local area is not floronated

thanks but no thanks


Im glad I was now able to see what the dollar amount is these jackals place on my kids life.

400 dollars isnnt even a week stay in decent hotel.

dam

[Dogman]

Good or bad ? for they that make choices for for their kids and themselfs.

But long run, if they in time get sick and maybe die, because of your choice it is upon your head..

I have always looked at getting shots as a crap shoot even today for myself. But I have took them and at times searched and demanded them despite , so far they did the job.

Not defendng other than personal, vast majority = no problems but for a minority = hell

Roll the dice to the point that if not you have noone to blame other than your self if things go sideways..


But for most they work, and that is a fact..


There is not a dam thing in life that all can enjoy , always there will be some that just can not be exposed.

Truth..

The big question and mystery is who ?


Roll the dice

Sucks but is very real

posted in my own openion..

[Dogman]

Good or bad ? for they that make choices for for their kids and themselfs.

But long run, if they in time get sick and maybe die, because of your choice it is upon your head..

I have always looked at getting shots as a crap shoot even today for myself. But I have took them and at times searched and demanded them despite , so far they did the job.

Not defendng other than personal, vast majority = no problems but for a minority = hell

Roll the dice to the point that if not you have noone to blame other than your self if things go sideways..


But for most they work, and that is a fact..


There is not a dam thing in life that all can enjoy , always there will be some that just can not be exposed.

Truth..

The big question and mystery is who ?


Roll the dice

Sucks but is very real

posted in my own openion..


Not sure now,

But back when

I remember a bunch of people/kids in wheelchairs and or in iron lungs in the 50's and up to the early 70's because of polio..

Also seen a few common childhood illness dam near dissapear because of them being stuck with a needle or such into people.

But seeing people suffering from polio is seared into my mind, anyone reading this ever seen this ?

Most old farts or ones in training probably had, unless they lived a very sheltered life.

Many a kid or adult were wheelchair bound or wearing braces and using crutches to get around..?

The very unlucky were bed ridden that to live HAD to have a machine breath for them and had a very short life..

Just my dos centavos...

In general...

I have always understood that vaccines are not 100% safe for everyone which is a gamble, but who has ever said that life is..

Your roll the dice and deal with what comes up.

Most win, some do not..Thanks doc, for your thanks...

you for one probably understand which I suspect the majority here do not.

Again thanks

For the unwashed in time they may regret their choices, but the choices are theirs to make for themselves and offspring..

And in the long run will have to suffer or not because of those choices..

BYW Doc I do have a high medical training...nuff said..!

I love the internet and also hate it because of the dis info..

The hard part is making the right choices as being informed on the risk and or benefit..

To do or not IS a crap shoot, but if not then live with what may come later..

Nuff said.

Life is a crap shoot, live or die....

depends on how the dice rolls.

Truth !

[Ares]

It's always nice to have even more ammunition to present to doctors on why I refuse to vaccinate.

[Cebu_4_2]

There is no way in hell I would toss the dice when it comes to my child. I don't gamble on stupid shit and I wont take it shoved into their bodies either. For you dogman you got lucky, or did you? Don't seem to be quite stable the past... well as long as I know you. You go poison your kids, thats fine, just leave me and mine the fuck alone.

[Dogman]

There is no way in hell I would toss the dice when it comes to my child. I don't gamble on stupid shit and I wont take it shoved into their bodies either. For you dogman you got lucky, or did you? Don't seem to be quite stable the past... well as long as I know you. You go poison your kids, thats fine, just leave me and mine the fuck alone. he he

nice so of both of you and ares chimming in..
I was just relating what my life experiances have been and seen.

good for you both, but also think most things that kids can get over quickly, if adult could kill them if they are exposed..

Yes life in general does in many ways boils down to something as a cosmic roll of the dice..

Unstable ? Compared to you I am rock stable, except that what I hold goes sideways to what you do in some ways but not all ways.

shit walk my life in my shoes and tell me that again..

again just trying to do input from personal experiance and life..

If it goes sideways to both of your thoughts, that is cool..

But in the years later than now, I doubt u will remember this post.

Micro bugs are here and now and most are not your friend, other than the ones that live in your gut, do u know that close to !/4 of your body weight is the critters that live in your gut ?

Day in and day out..?

I have no problem on adults saying no, but I feel sad for parents that say the same, because sooner than maybe later their kids may or will suffer and maybe die because of the parents choices, when they were young..

I pray to what ever god one believes or not..


Life is a crap shoot...!

Major truth !

[Jerrylynnb]

When I have had trauma (accidents), then doctors and hospitals are life-savers - thanks millions.

But, other than that, I have zero faith in modern medical practice.

Two former MD's (Dr. Daniels and Dr. Deagle - RBN radio), both advise that they were drummed out because the drug companies kept tabs on how zealous they were (or WEREN'T, in their cases) in prescribing pharmaceuticals, and, after being warned, they found themselves falling out of favor and losing their "license" to "practice" medicine (the dispensing of pharmaceuticals). We, the patient public, are not aware of the pressure put upon MD's to push those deadly drugs.

Five years ago. less than three hours after her birth, I held my little granddaughter in my arms at the hospital. It was a truly spiritual moment, holding the future, so tiny and helpless, in my hands. My son and I did NOT get along for most of his life, and, he paid no attention to my admonishment that he ought to dodge attempts by his doctors to inject drugs into her tiny body. As usual, he paid me no mind. Shortly after her first birthday, where she was coming along wonderfully, she was given her full battery of vaccinations. Right away, she began to withdraw, avoiding looking at anyone (including her mother) and creating her own little world. Over the years she proved she was plenty smart (working puzzles, and, last year working an IPAD I got her), but, she wanted nothing to do with communicating with ANYONE. She is autistic, which, according to Dr. Lorraine Day, jumped up multi-fold after the push a few years ago for full-battery vaccinations of one-year-olds. The special classes are prohibitively expensive, and, they don't usually help at all anyway. The heartbreak of my granddaughter turning autistic right after that massive battery of shots - well, it shouldn't be hard to sympathize with my reaction down to my inner bone marrow.

You can roll the dice, if you wish, but seeing a healthy child, surely destined for a successful life, saddled with a loss of communication skills, I ain't got time nor inclination to argue with anybody about it - these medical and pharmaceutical bastards don't give ONE DAMN DIME about anybody's health - just the bottom line to all the money they rake in fooling the gullible who like to have faith (and I do mean blind faith), and for no good reason.

And if you want a documented case, go read about thalidomide and what it did to a sizeable percentage of german babies back in the late 60's (we had a visiting troupe of German programmers visit for a few days back in the 80's and one fellow was super genius but his right hand was attached to his right shoulder due to an absence of a right arm from thalidomide poisoning of his mother during his formation in the womb) - anybody willing to roll the dice with these bastards creating frankenstein potents in their devil-fested laboratories - well, you get to reap the consequences of too much gullibility and blind faith. But leave the rest of we the skiddish ALONE - thankyou.

Good night.

[Cebu_4_2]

My sentiments exactly although you put it in much better understanding than I could. It simply is not a worthy choice for me and my family. I used to think some vax may have merit until they passed laws saying that the med industry can not be held responsible. Big red flag there.

I had the full vax regimin long ago and developed a strange reaction that of course had nothing to do with the shots. My son also had the same type of bad reaction after the same shots. No cure just remove parts til they get it right, or never at all.

I lived through this with my son and the stress of being helpless is unbelieveable. When the treatments stopped working and we were left with no option but to start removing parts I got very serious and figured temporarily how to fix the symptoms. Symptoms under control I went further and succeded in keeping him out of the med industries grip. He is not cured but 90% better with no need for the industry.

There is no way I could consiously let this happen to the little one because I have been through it and know that what I can do on my own with herbs surpasses the med industry by 100 fold.

Med Ind. has benefits for broken parts etc but to me besides emergency care they are useless.

Just got out of the Med trap myself due to an accident. No one followed up, no one knew what tests were given let alone results. Never saw any x-rays or results of the tests etc. There was no plan just protocal and the information was never looked into, pretty much compartmentalized. I was held captive until I woke them up and left, kinda on their terms but none the less I got out before shit started spiraling out of control.

OT: I sit here in the dark trying to type the best I can since I cant see the keyboard along with 3 fractured ribs, a partially collapsed lung which also has blood in the lower portion. Very hard to be mobile but I did manage to finish up the final x-ray so whatever team was the last gets closure to get paid. Over a mile worth of walking to finish what they started plus a 45 minute drive each way... Once I get results I'll be posting this in the lounge with pics.

[Jerrylynnb]

Cebu_4_2, we share identical resolve about the medical mafia. Your history is heartbreaking but very instructive at the same time. When you say:

"Med Ind. has benefits for broken parts etc but to me besides emergency care they are useless."

you express my sentiments EXACTLY.

I too make use of herbs and other methods, but, mostly, I accept the conditions of my advancing age (74) graciously as I have already outlived my parents and older brother. I've had a good life. I ain't afraid of death, and I sure don't want to go through it all over again.

Peace.

[jaybone]

We just had our 4 year "wellness" visit after skipping the 3-year. Our wonderful son has not had anything beyond a sniffle in over 18 months, while all those around him have had severe colds and a few bouts of flu, he has boogers and fatigue for a day then all better. He of course has a 100% natural immune system, unfortunately the rest of us do not.
LOL about the fluoride vitamins! they offered those to us too because we are on a well. I'm in water treatment and happen to know that the local municipal supply is also not fluoridated, surprise the doc was unaware of that. I dont let them get into the vax pitch, just say "this matter has been settled and is not open to discussion" they can play ball or kick us out. I am my child's doctor in the end. What it boils down to for me is a tiny risk of lifelong autoimmune problems from vax damage versus a tiny risk of complications from routine childhood illness, when in doubt, I go the more conservative route.

[Ares]

We just had our 4 year "wellness" visit after skipping the 3-year. Our wonderful son has not had anything beyond a sniffle in over 18 months, while all those around him have had severe colds and a few bouts of flu, he has boogers and fatigue for a day then all better. He of course has a 100% natural immune system, unfortunately the rest of us do not.
LOL about the fluoride vitamins! they offered those to us too because we are on a well. I'm in water treatment and happen to know that the local municipal supply is also not fluoridated, surprise the doc was unaware of that. I dont let them get into the vax pitch, just say "this matter has been settled and is not open to discussion" they can play ball or kick us out. I am my child's doctor in the end. What it boils down to for me is a tiny risk of lifelong autoimmune problems from vax damage versus a tiny risk of complications from routine childhood illness, when in doubt, I go the more conservative route.

Exactly, we've been asked to leave doctors offices when we refused to allow them to vaccinate our daughters. I just packed up our things and told the doctor if she sends a bill to me, or to my insurance that I will charge her with fraud because there were no services rendered.

Outside of my kids going, I myself have not seen a doctor in probably 10-12 years. I did have a work site accident back in 2004 which did require my nasal passage to be cauterized with silver nitrate because it wouldn't stop bleeding, and even then they pushed a tetanus vaccine and I just said no. So far so good, I'm in good health, refuse the flu vaccine whenever it's presented at work and barely get sick.

Man can only repair the creators design (to an extent), they cannot make it better.

[Neuro]

Not sure now,

But back when

I remember a bunch of people/kids in wheelchairs and or in iron lungs in the 50's and up to the early 70's because of polio..

Also seen a few common childhood illness dam near dissapear because of them being stuck with a needle or such into people.

But seeing people suffering from polio is seared into my mind, anyone reading this ever seen this ?

Most old farts or ones in training probably had, unless they lived a very sheltered life.

Many a kid or adult were wheelchair bound or wearing braces and using crutches to get around..?

The very unlucky were bed ridden that to live HAD to have a machine breath for them and had a very short life..

Just my dos centavos...

In general...

I have always understood that vaccines are not 100% safe for everyone which is a gamble, but who has ever said that life is..

Your roll the dice and deal with what comes up.

Most win, some do not..

I had a couple of patients born in late 40's early 50's that got polio in the last epidemic in mid 50's, mildly handicapped from it. I have another patient born 2001 quadriplegic from getting a polio vaccine in 2002, 12 months old, he was developing normally until that fateful shot. He was then crying incessantly for 3 months or so, and at the end was unable to crawl any more. He can use his fingers but is unable to lift his arms against gravity, trunk muscles are exceedingly weak, and because of this he developed a 70-80° scoliosis, a lung infection could kill him because of his respiratory muscles are so weak he can't cough. His parents take him south every winter, to protect him from chest infections. He's a creative kid who is a skilled drawer, but because of his vaccine injury his life is very limited. He needs a surgery for his scoliosis (one of very few cases of many were I agree with it), but his parents are afraid, that the surgery will take energy from him and he contracts a flu or something...

Contrary to popular belief polio was erradicated by modern plumbing, not vaccines, it is still rampant in India despite massive vaccine programs. There are still cases in the west such as the one I described above, caused by the polio vaccine,very rarely they are even recognized by mainstream medicine as polio.
The big difference is if you get the infection via normal route or via the injection direct into the bloodstream. Natural polio usually only affect 1 spinal level motor neuron, if any lasting effects. Injections are different.

[Twisted Titan]

I just had to take my daughter back to death dealer today ...because she is at the very tail end of potty training

So she was complaining of discomfort down there and few episodes of a false urge to urinate.

I agreed to the visit it was definitely a valid concern.

We went into a different room that was stacked from floor to ceiling with hazardous bottle service and climate control refrigerator.

It was the vaccination room.

I just looked around in disbelief knowing what I knew....I almost wanted to be like Jesus in the temple and destroy the place

Anyway...the visit went smoothly and it just turned out to be discomfort and nothing requiring medications just some topical stuff will have to suffice.

[Twisted Titan]

I'm just glad I never got nasty with the doctor about vaccinations or tried to "educate" her cause that was the perfect scenario to insinuate something that can take on a life of it so own at the speed of light.