The final defeat of White America

[crimethink]

White America took a blade in the gut twice, in 2008 and 2012, with the selection of Barack Obama.

In November, the coup de grace, a blade to the heart, will be inflicted upon White America.

The "election" is the final battle between White America and the "New America." The latter being an "America" of Cultural Bolshevism and increasing Third World character.

Even if White Americans could muster the numbers to elect Trump, which is demographically unlikely given the coalition of White Fifth Columnists and non-White invaders who simply outnumber us nationally, the real rulers of this country and the world cannot allow a "White victory."

I know many of you want to "hope" for a victory. Even if Trump is for real, his election cannot - and will not - be allowed.

White America must be defeated. What Trump is perceived to represent cannot be permitted to win. The mistake of allowing the Brexit win shall not be repeated.

[cheka.]

quite a run they are on. able to put a hussein obama in the prez...while muzzie hypefest of hussein + osama was still raging 8 years ago

now they double down with the most hated woman in america

on the bright side...the good side is growing. imo the controllers have to be questioning their decision to let the internet out of the bag. it is the best spying tool ever...but dangerous truths are growing. most of us here are old-timers (me included) of truth segment. we've seen spectacular growth (on a percentage basis).

some topics we have/are killing the propaganda: federal reserve, 9/11, aerial spraying, vaccines, gmo, main stream media, federal gov criminality (false flags, hoaxes,etc)

we need to continue to foster this growth -- even if it's just one person at a time. the thing is multiplying to the good.

seems it's a race -- the controllers plantation slave inflaming - negroes, mexicans, sjw, fags, etc versus the growing good side.

is this why trump? to help the controllers inflame/motivate their plantation slaves to take on the growing good side?

[Ares]

quite a run they are on. able to put a hussein obama in the prez...while muzzie hypefest of hussein + osama was still raging 8 years ago

now they double down with the most hated woman in america

on the bright side...the good side is growing. imo the controllers have to be questioning their decision to let the internet out of the bag. it is the best spying tool ever...but dangerous truths are growing. most of us here are old-timers (me included) of truth segment. we've seen spectacular growth (on a percentage basis).

some topics we have/are killing the propaganda: federal reserve, 9/11, aerial spraying, vaccines, gmo, main stream media, federal gov criminality (false flags, hoaxes,etc)

we need to continue to foster this growth -- even if it's just one person at a time. the thing is multiplying to the good.

seems it's a race -- the controllers plantation slave inflaming - negroes, mexicans, sjw, fags, etc versus the growing good side.

is this why trump? to help the controllers inflame/motivate their plantation slaves to take on the growing good side?

I often thought about that back in 2008. I envisioned TPTB joking amongst themselves that they were able to put someone who has a Muslim name in the white house, post 9/11.

[7th trump]

White America took a blade in the gut twice, in 2008 and 2012, with the selection of Barack Obama.

In November, the coup de grace, a blade to the heart, will be inflicted upon White America.

The "election" is the final battle between White America and the "New America." The latter being an "America" of Cultural Bolshevism and increasing Third World character.

Even if White Americans could muster the numbers to elect Trump, which is demographically unlikely given the coalition of White Fifth Columnists and non-White invaders who simply outnumber us nationally, the real rulers of this country and the world cannot allow a "White victory."

I know many of you want to "hope" for a victory. Even if Trump is for real, his election cannot - and will not - be allowed.

White America must be defeated. What Trump is perceived to represent cannot be permitted to win. The mistake of allowing the Brexit win shall not be repeated.

America isnt going anywhere and certainly not going the way of the animal. Too many whites and I mean too many whites still around.
The negro will not do anything....they havent yet and never will. Just look at Africa today and tell me they will take over. Most dont have eighth grade logic or a 6th grade education.

Trump will most likely be the next president too.

You just bring more fear is all....no faith in anything and fall for everything.

[Jewboo]

America isnt going anywhere and certainly not going the way of the animal. Too many whites and I mean too many whites still around.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8niCPJgEiJI/VVO0mmeR17I/AAAAAAAAAQA/AGcZWCx6OyM/w800-h800/Campaigning.jpg

WHITEY elected Obama. Twice.


:rolleyes: look at all dem WHITE adoring faces

[Hitch]

Obama's administration has lead to some of the worst racial tensions we've ever experienced as a country...and he fuels it. Trump, I think would bring racial tensions to an end. Hard working blacks, hardworking mexicans, and whites, can, and should work together. His speech last night in WI is trying to show support for that.

Everyone, should be able to be proud of their background and heritage. It's all the by design it's the way it is now, social engineering at it's finest. They want us to hate and fear each other, because when we do, they profit and maintain control.

Trump is our hope to blast right through all that.

One of the best pieces of advises I've heard, and I try to follow. Is to live a happy fulfilling life, you need to remove the bad people from your life, and allow the good people into your life. If you can do that, you've done one thing right, at least. I believe that's what Trump wants to do for all of us, as Americans.

[cheka.]

WHITEY elected Obama. Twice.


:rolleyes: look at all dem WHITE adoring faces

let me be clear

women elected it twice. the welfare force is strong amongst the xx

[EE_]

America isnt going anywhere and certainly not going the way of the animal. Too many whites and I mean too many whites still around.
The negro will not do anything....they havent yet and never will. Just look at Africa today and tell me they will take over. Most dont have eighth grade logic or a 6th grade education.

Trump will most likely be the next president too.

You just bring more fear is all....no faith in anything and fall for everything.

Trump is winning and will win, it is a done deal! I know a movement when I see it.

Perhaps Mr. CT should be looking at what the elite will do just before, during, right after, his/our victory?

I believe the elite will not go quietly. I don't believe Trump will sell out to them, so that leaves the other options...1. crash the financial system creating chaos and the need for UN troops to restore order...'their' kind of order. 2. set off a war with Russia, on top of the war in the middle east. 3. review the JFK tapes 4. pandemic

[cheka.]

Obama's administration has lead to some of the worst racial tensions we've ever experienced as a country...and he fuels it. Trump, I think would bring racial tensions to an end. Hard working blacks, hardworking mexicans, and whites, can, and should work together. His speech last night in WI is trying to show support for that.

Everyone, should be able to be proud of their background and heritage. It's all the by design it's the way it is now, social engineering at it's finest. They want us to hate and fear each other, because when we do, they profit and maintain control.

Trump is our hope to blast right through all that.

One of the best pieces of advises I've heard, and I try to follow. Is to live a happy fulfilling life, you need to remove the bad people from your life, and allow the good people into your life. If you can do that, you've done one thing right, at least. I believe that's what Trump wants to do for all of us, as Americans.

good luck with that. do my best to be an island...but there's a shithead around every corner. maybe someday it will be different...and i can gtfo out of this third world hellhole known as houston

[EE_]

good luck with that. do my best to be an island...but there's a shithead around every corner. maybe someday it will be different...and i can gtfo out of this third world hellhole known as houston

Sorry to hear about your hellhole :(

[cheka.]

Sorry to hear about your hellhole :(

already scouted my escape. counting down the days...

slave to megaoilcorp for a while longer :(

[EE_]

already scouted my escape. counting down the days...

slave to megaoilcorp for a while longer :(

Slave to the Koch Bros. ?

Where are the greener pastures you may escape to. I've searched to country many times, there's no perfect place.

[cheka.]

Slave to the Koch Bros. ?

they are a customer of ours....as are you

they are a tiny little outfit compared to the thing i'm a slave of

[Rubicon]

This guy nailed it long ago ...

White Surrender (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/cede.htm) <---- the scenario I predict will happen, I hope I'm wrong

Ending the Race Crisis in the 21st Century (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/index.htm)

[Hitch]

good luck with that. do my best to be an island...but there's a shithead around every corner. maybe someday it will be different...and i can gtfo out of this third world hellhole known as houston

Get out of the city, when you can and as fast as you can. Our cities are doomed, unfortunately. Just do what you can to make that happen, find some way. I was able to, if I can get out, anyone can, imo.

[Shami-Amourae]

Get out of the city, when you can and as fast as you can. Our cities are doomed, unfortunately. Just do what you can to make that happen, find some way. I was able to, if I can get out, anyone can, imo.

Any town over 40,000 people is doomed already with the refugee programs. Hillary will increase the Islamic flow by 600%+ so every town will look like Malmo, Sweden pretty soon.

We now have to flee to towns less than a few thousand people or less.

It may turn to an Innawoods situation within a decade at this rate.

[Hitch]

Any town over 40,000 people is doomed already with the refugee programs. Hillary will increase the Islamic flow by 600%+ so every town will look like Malmo, Sweden pretty soon.

We now have to flee to towns less than a few thousand people or less.

It may turn to an Innawoods situation within a decade at this rate.

Which is why we need Trump to win. If Hillary wins, we are doomed, as a nation. While the media shows BLM, which is just a bunch of thugs, the real threat is Islam. They want to conquer the world, worse than any communist movement we have ever seen in our lives. They use religion, brilliantly, to push tolerance, when tolerance of others is not on their goal and their goal is to destroy.

We really do need a wall. And Islam, needs to be sent back on the other side of it.

[Jewboo]

It may turn to an Innawoods situation within a decade at this rate.



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TJSar_hEhAo/TBzSXjDQT_I/AAAAAAAAABo/QZyJQ75BBXY/s1600/b_gear.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LzCxlUS.png

[Jewboo]

This guy nailed it long ago ...

White Surrender (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/cede.htm) <---- the scenario I predict will happen, I hope I'm wrong

Ending the Race Crisis in the 21st Century (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/index.htm)



Scenario 1 - Acquiescence and Surrender.
A Possible Result of the Race Crisis in the USA (2001)

Scenario 1 (whites' acceptance of a non-white America) is the most probable future because it is already the officially enforced and unquestioned orthodoxy of the nation. Despite talk-show skirmishing over minor degrees of social spending, taxes and racial policy, the Republican party today is a carbon copy of the Democratic party. Both fully endorse the core concept of racial integration along with the big-government welfare state to support it. No Republican or Democrat dares question this now-established doctrine. Both alike condemn as "racist" any white resistance to this four-decade-old dogma. Liberal Democrats have always championed non-white immigration to broaden their base; Republicans now copy-cat the same tactics (candidate G.W. Bush blatantly courting the Hispanic vote). Politicians have long since ceased being constitutional statesmen; they cling ever to their own foremost priority, re-election by any means including non-white voting blocs — no matter the long-range consequences for their country. (7 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/007.htm))

Euro-white Apathy
Strangely, or eerily, Euro-whites don't resist this sure path to their own racial extinction, accepting it meekly without a whimper. Indeed, many champion the racial integration policies which guarantee their own demise. Why such apathy when facing one's own racial suicide? First of all, such a fate seems remote, abstract, affecting only unborn far-future grandchildren. Secondly, massive white-flight still protects their own all-white suburban lives and cultural identity. A head-in-the-sand blot-out of remote futures is safe insulation from far-away consequences. Secluded in all-white suburbia for the present, whites can bask in self-righteous atonement for long-ago slavery and noble advocacy of non-white advances — but at a comfortable (or hypocritical) distance. Third is the daily media propaganda of white evil. Naively buying into misinformation and shamed as "oppressors," whites atone with self-sacrificing "Christian" altruism, voting with kind heart and altruistic sentimentality for every non-white agenda (immigration, minority rights, welfare, integration). Historians of the future will dub it the "great white folly" of the 21st century.

In one word, "altruism" is the Euro-white "Achilles heel" — its fatal "hamartia." (8 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/008.htm)) The warm heart blinds the cool head. America's original "age of reason" slides into our new " age of sentimentality (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/signs/chap9.htm)". Among the contributing factors are a soft "feminizing" of America, wild excesses of new "constitutional rights" and high-tech media indoctrination. For a half-century people have been absorbing their information from daily floods of sensation-rich TV images and slogans instead of books and in-depth thought. Feeling and emotion overpower intellect and thinking. In an image-mad media world, logic is smothered, slogans replace substance. The ironic result: whites, only 8% of the world's population — and shrinking, let their altruism run wild in helping non-white races overwhelm their own everywhere. The apathy of many Euro-whites is merely daily rat-race busyness, too busy with demanding careers, earning a livelihood and paying unprecedented taxes to the welfare state. No time to analyze America's suicidal racial transformation. And nightly TV, with its constant racial-diversity propaganda, lulls them into comfortable acquiescence.

A final reason for white apathy: appeasement to angry non-white activists seems a slight price for peace and security. Many remember and fear the enraged race rioting of blacks in the 1960s, burning entire areas of major cities including the downtown heart of the U.S. capital. And, recently, a black activist to a non-white crowd with open arrogance: "Remember, soon there'll be more of us than them;" and California Hispanic leader Mario Obledo: "California will be a Hispanic state, anyone who doesn't like it should leave;" and, at the university brainwashing level, Harvard lecturer and white-liberal Noel Ignatiev widely urging (as in Insight, November 1999) the need to "abolish the white race by any means necessary."

Although Euro-whites are still America's majority race in the year 2000 and could reverse the suicidal trend if they chose to (see Scenarios 2, 3 and 4 below), they probably won't. Or wake up from apathy to their altruistic blunder much too late. By mid-century, two generations of Euro-white young will be fully indoctrinated into Government centralized power and racial dogma. If Euro-whites fail to awaken in time to change the nation's course, the following details of Scenario 1 are logical and readily anticipated projections deep into the next century.

"Big Brother" and Compassionate Martial Law
Well before 2050 the gradual reinterpretation and deconstruction of the Constitution will be completed, totally opposite its original meaning and principles. Centralized Government power and cultural Marxism will be firmly in control of every state, community and individual in America.(2 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/002.htm)) Court rulings and presidential Executive Orders (EOs), already in 2000 authorizing martial law in Government-defined emergencies, will proliferate into a police-state web. The crime waves, school shootings, terrorist bombings, racial tensions and drug trafficking, rampant in the 1990s, provide the pretence for accelerated Government police operations — and the usual tax hikes to finance them. For efficient law enforcement and its central coordination, the U.S. armed services will expand to control, then later replace, civilian police nationwide. This de facto repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (amplifying the 4th Amendment to protect citizens from federal armed might) began in the late 1980s, then accelerated by presidential EOs into a U.S. "protective" police state.(9 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/009.htm))

Federal data bases, especially at the IRS (Internal Revenue Service), FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) and CIA (Central Intelligence Agency), will record every detail of private lives, all subject to Government scrutiny as federal protection of the people requires. Federal agents, powered with high-technology electronics and satellites, will routinely monitor e-mail and Web sites, search homes and businesses for evidence of criminal or seditious activity (as defined by Government), especially computer hard disks. The "Human Genome" project, completed in early century, soon fills government files with the complete genetic DNA code of all citizens, linked to their social security numbers, IRS and FBI files. Encryption in all private communication is outlawed. Tiny video cameras monitor everyone in offices, factories, agencies and targeted private homes suspected of criminal or seditious activity. As dramatized in the Orwellian world of 1984, suspects include everybody.

The creepy feeling of being watched fades into an accepted way of life. The evolution of the nation into benign statism is so gradual, by so small and seemingly do-good increments, that it's scarcely noticed. People slowly "get used to" the harmless trade-off of personal freedoms for universal Government security and protection. Few even recognize the radical transformation unfolding; then everyone is inadvertently a part of it. In this crawling and novel form of statism, chipping away slowly at liberties (best termed "totalitarian democracy" as voters support a "Big Brother" saviour), early group-think mind-training of the young in Government schools embeds a trusting love for the all-caring, paternalistic "Uncle Sam, protector of the people."(10 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/010.htm))

With private ownership of firearms long ago outlawed and prompt prosecution of "enemies of the state" routine, crime rates will decrease sharply as will all other dangerous behaviour, especially political dissent. Government-controlled media and propaganda in schools condition the public to accept regimentation as protection against crime and sedition.

But Government never ignores the need of people, even if not truly free, to at least feel free. Thus superficial but satisfying illusions of freedom and choice satiate this need in well-stocked malls, food stores, welfare perks and non-stop escapist entertainment, especially high-hyped TV sports specials and musical extravaganzas. Even long-entrenched sexual freedoms since the 1990s are tolerated in a wide variety of "alternative lifestyles" (a citizen's preoccupation with his pornography, fetishes or a "gay" marriage is no threat to core Government doctrine and a convenient distraction from its central goals).However, genuine and core freedoms, such as political dissent, can not be tolerated. All such are incompatible with a safe and stable nation — and are ended. Especially freedom of speech.

Freedom of Speech Muted
"Hate-crime" laws of the 1990s expand into "hate-speech" laws punishing all "politically incorrect" criticism of core Government policies, especially its civil-rights and racial-integration dogmas. "Racist," defined by federal laws, broadens to include any reference to "white rights" of any sort or resistance to anti-discrimination norms (for example, a white father discouraging white-black dating is instantly a racist suspect; so is his daughter for declining the date). The many traditional groups of the 1990s, arguing for fair pro-white solutions such as peaceable separation of the races, will be harshly equated with "white supremacists" and similarly criminalized. The more vocal and leading dissidents will be assigned by Government doctors to psychiatric wards for rehabilitation as "mental health victims" (a benign version of the former USSR's Gulag). Any talking or speech perceived by Government as "racist," even in one's own home, is outlawed. Such speech became criminalized in Britain and parts of Europe as far back as the 1990s.(11 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/011.htm))

Freedom of speech and thought will disappear into a public atmosphere more sophisticated but identical in effect to the 17th-century Salem witch hunts when fear of prohibited words or associations silenced everyone into doctrinal uniformity. No one dared speak up to defend an accused witch (fearful of being branded a witch himself). In 21st-century America, no one will defend anyone branded a "racist" for fear he will be so branded himself and lose his career — or worse. School children will routinely be coaxed in "patriotism" sessions to report any "un-American" talk heard at home (children in Salem often indicted their own parents by merely and grimly pointing at them). In a labyrinthine web of surveillance and intimidation, countless civil-rights compliance units will monitor all citizens and organizations to detect and purge any political deviance.

Government as Parent and Teacher
Early in the next century most parents and adults, male and female, will be fulltime in the workforce. This becomes Government policy aimed at national economic strength, enhanced tax revenue and generously subsidized prosperity for citizens. A nationwide federal system of day-care centers and K-12 schools fills the parenting void, training the young in "political correctness" and the skills needed for the economy. Behavior-modification methods and mental-health screening, initiated in the 1990s, insure orthodox thinking.(12 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/012.htm)) Homeschooling, soaring exponentially about 2005, is banned as disguised teaching of early-age discrimination, meritocracy and racial inequality. Private schools disappear except for a select few Government-approved and closely monitored.

The original right to equal opportunity for academic or economic success and social status is converted into the right to actual egalitarian outcome (equality of results, all citizens provided equal standards of living in a non-discriminating society). Government civil-rights policy continues to be reinforced lifelong by mandatory diversity and sensitivity training courses in all work places.

Many Hues of Brown
The most drastic transformation of America in Scenario 1 is its population. By century's end, America will be a non-white nation, Euro-whites relatively few — or none.

America in the 1950s was 90% Euro-white. Demographic experts agree on the following projections and future look of America. In 2025 62% will be Euro-white, 38% non-white. Of non-whites, Hispanics (18% of the U.S.) with high immigration and birth rates will outpace blacks (13%) and Asians (6%). By 2050 whites will fade to about 50% of the population. At century's end the process of racial reversal will be completed, the U.S. a fully non-white nation.(13 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/013.htm))

By subtle indoctrination (such as black-boy-white-girl intimacies increasingly woven into TV sit-coms and constant commercials), interracial marriage and partnerships will become the norm. Whites discard the age-old natural instinct to marry within one's own race and the desire to have children that look like themselves. Most children will be neither black nor white but, as in Brazil, hundreds of shades of brown. Commenting on the mishmash of languages and third-world cultures in the border states, Rep. Reyes (D-Tex) says "if people want to see what the country is eventually going to look like, they should come to the border." The same is true today of fully multi-racial areas like New York City and Washington, D.C.(14 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/014.htm))

Even today, throughout mainstream America, a common sight in stores and malls is white mothers with their brown children; in 1999 10% of blacks are married to non-blacks; 30% of Hispanics and Asians marry outside their race or ethnic group. As every non-white marriage to a white produces brown and genetically altered offspring, the Euro-white gene pool will disappear in America. It will vanish worldwide as well. Today, whites are only 8% of Earth's population, non-whites an overwhelming 92%. With race-mixing patterns normalized worldwide, the white gene pool will continue to disappear — or become entirely extinct.(15 (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/note/015.htm))

:o Rubicon hit this one out of the ballpark. Follow that link!

[crimethink]

let me be clear

women elected it twice. the welfare force is strong amongst the xx

It was more than just the "welfare force."

The females were getting wet at the thought of the Magic Negro:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_omk7dxCwoak/TDX9DZYbLhI/AAAAAAAADhE/v7sR0VMGkd4/s1600/obama%2520supporters.jpg

https://coxrare.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ap-obama-young-supporters-ll-110706-wgjpg-a776b3fe19714340.jpg?w=640&h=321&crop=1

But there were plenty of White males - can't call them "men" - who voted for the Nigger, as well, out of White guilt or fellow travelership:

http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/

[crimethink]

Trump is winning and will win, it is a done deal! I know a movement when I see it.

Perhaps Mr. CT should be looking at what the elite will do just before, during, right after, his/our victory?

I believe the elite will not go quietly. I don't believe Trump will sell out to them, so that leaves the other options...1. crash the financial system creating chaos and the need for UN troops to restore order...'their' kind of order. 2. set off a war with Russia, on top of the war in the middle east. 3. review the JFK tapes 4. pandemic

OK, it's put up or shut up time.

If Trump wins, I send you a shiny, new 2016 Gold American Eagle.

If Hillary wins, you send me a shiny, new 2016 Gold American Eagle.

Do you agree to this wager?


(Trump is "the elite"):

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_20/1542681/160519-trump-clinton-0014_43b68e75ee8a5e932bc0b4007dccfc02.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg

[crimethink]

This guy nailed it long ago ...

White Surrender (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/cede.htm) <---- the scenario I predict will happen, I hope I'm wrong

Ending the Race Crisis in the 21st Century (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/index.htm)

And years before...

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oeg9HTPM5uI/VgugykZKWjI/AAAAAAAAiFE/SfyaA3wjWH8/s1600/001.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/www.educationviews.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/camp-of-the-saints-cover.jpeg

[crimethink]

First of all, such a fate seems remote, abstract, affecting only unborn far-future grandchildren.


Or not...

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/3ad0a7bf32a042499f63a411b6a25bb8/painet-jo6298-grandpa-grandchildren-interracial-family-hispanic-latinos-at2g5k.jpg

https://66.media.tumblr.com/ce0e5914a2ce88be2cee28945228935f/tumblr_mt9v3afojk1sus43jo1_1280.jpg

Grand-Cuckolds

[Jewboo]

Or not...



http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/index.htm

Gonna take me a few days to absorb Rubicon's link. A treasure trove...

:D

[crimethink]

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/index.htm

Gonna take me a few days to absorb Rubicon's link. A treasure trove...

:D


I've been reading several pages on that site, and, like you, find much of it quite valuable. However, be careful:

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/moral2/test.htm

For example, as head of the Nazi church as well as leader of the people, Hitler had infallibility conferred upon him but not sanity, which made the Nazi regime insane and won disaster.

The site's primary author needs to examine his own sanity by his own rules, as Hitler and his people & allies were the only ones actively resisting Bolshevism of Europe and the world. It would have been insane to not make war against the entities aiming to enslave and exterminate Christian civilization. He is using his feelings* rather than reason reflecting on traditional morals to weigh Hitler and National Socialism.


* The author can be forgiven for his emotionalism on Hitler, due to the fact he is an Englishman born of a British army officer in the immediate wake of World War II.

[Joshua01]

I've been reading several pages on that site, and, like you, find much of it quite valuable. However, be careful:

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/moral2/test.htm

For example, as head of the Nazi church as well as leader of the people, Hitler had infallibility conferred upon him but not sanity, which made the Nazi regime insane and won disaster.

The site's primary author needs to examine his own sanity by his own rules, as Hitler and his people & allies were the only ones actively resisting Bolshevism of Europe and the world. It would have been insane to not make war against the entities aiming to enslave and exterminate Christian civilization. He is using his feelings* rather than reason reflecting on traditional morals to weigh Hitler and National Socialism.


* The author can be forgiven for his emotionalism on Hitler, due to the fact he is an Englishman born of a British army officer in the immediate wake of World War II.


As soon as I saw the word church I knew the rest was bullshit

[EE_]

OK, it's put up or shut up time.

If Trump wins, I send you a shiny, new 2016 Gold American Eagle.

If Hillary wins, you send me a shiny, new 2016 Gold American Eagle.

Do you agree to this wager?

I don't want to give you my address, so how about this...loser is a ball sucking faggot and has to leave GSUS forever. This should be easy for you, because you come and go anyway. I have been here steady for years.

Do you agree to this wager?

[Jewboo]

I've been reading several pages on that site, and, like you, find much of it quite valuable.



About the author: http://www.ourcivilisation.com/author.htm

[Jewboo]

...so how about this...loser is a ball sucking faggot and has to leave GSUS forever....I have been here steady for years.



You'll just pull a Liquid/Solid/Hitch name change and remain...probably quietly return as FF_.

:D

[Spectrism]

I don't want to give you my address, so how about this...loser is a ball sucking faggot and has to leave GSUS forever. This should be easy for you, because you come and go anyway. I have been here steady for years.

Do you agree to this wager?

Anyone who would wager this already sees himself as a ball-sucking faggot. I never thought of you that way in the past. Interesting revelation.

[EE_]

You'll just pull a Liquid/Solid/Hitch name change and remain...probably quietly return as FF.

:D

Funny
Yer pal, FF_

Hillary spent $100 million on ads - Trump $0
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqIel9qVIAAiad9.jpg:medium

[Spectrism]

As soon as I saw the word church I knew the rest was bullshit


Seems to be your standard answer based on your ignorance. Like bullshit, do yuh?

[EE_]

Anyone who would wager this already sees himself as a ball-sucking faggot. I never thought of you that way in the past. Interesting revelation.

I'm not going to lose the wager, so not a ball sucking faggot Mr. Smarty Pants!

Are you getting in on the wager?

http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/smarty_pants_funny_geek_bumper_stickers-r51a5d305dd4c40ccbc2049e89807261f_v9wht_8byvr_512. jpg

[crimethink]

I don't want to give you my address

Coward. You don't really believe Trump is going to win. Like a pansy liberal, you only wish he would win. Feelings > reason.

You are part of the Problem of America's downfall.

[Joshua01]

Coward. You don't really believe Trump is going to win. Like a pansy liberal, you only wish he would win. Feelings > reason.

You are part of the Problem of America's downfall.

What's your address? I'm sure you're brave enough to tell us that. You're not a coward, are you?

[Joshua01]

Seems to be your standard answer based on your ignorance. Like bullshit, do yuh?

There's plenty of it here and I like stirring it up and watching you guys get all defensive and condescending toward anyone who disagrees with you. Being labeled ignorant by you and others here is something I wear as a badge of honor

[crimethink]

Did someone fart in here? I smell something...

This message is hidden because Joshua01 is on your ignore list.

[Joshua01]

Did someone fart in here? I smell something...

This message is hidden because Joshua01 is on your ignore list.

Not surprised at all. When a certain kind of person has nothing else to offer they go hide in their safe place. Who's next?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Whosnext.jpg

[EE_]

Coward. You don't really believe Trump is going to win. Like a pansy liberal, you only wish he would win. Feelings > reason.

You are part of the Problem of America's downfall.

So are you accepting the wager? We will ask the Mod's to permanently ban the ball sucking faggot loser's IP.

[cheka.]

So are you accepting the wager? We will ask the Mod's to permanently ban the ball sucking faggot loser's IP.

bet something else! maybe avatar change to killary/trump?......or the worst, michael obomba?

[Jewboo]

We will ask the Mod's to permanently ban the ball sucking faggot loser's IP.



You will just reappear as FF_

:rolleyes:

[EE_]

bet something else! maybe avatar change to killary/trump?......or the worst, michael obomba?

Like this? The loser has to use this as his permanent avatar.

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/hey-im-a-faggot.png

[Jewboo]

...I like stirring it up and watching you guys get all defensive...I wear as a badge of honor...



https://dontgiveupworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/0000-two-faced-people-quotes-580x330.jpg


http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?88143-quot-I-m-proud-to-be-a-racist-and-make-sure-people-understand-just-where-I-stand-quot&p=819582&viewfull=1#post819582

Meanwhile over at GIM2 you suck Scorpio's balls and never say anything impolite.

:D two-faced fuck

[Joshua01]

https://dontgiveupworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/0000-two-faced-people-quotes-580x330.jpg


http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?88143-quot-I-m-proud-to-be-a-racist-and-make-sure-people-understand-just-where-I-stand-quot&p=819582&viewfull=1#post819582

Meanwhile over at GIM2 you politely suck Scorpio's balls and never say anything impolite.

:D two-faced fuck




Now see JB? You couldn't resist waking up the sleeping bear could you? You really don't think you're safe behind that keyboard do you? Don't get me angry...you won't like me when I'm angry, motherfucker! You have no idea what anyone on the internet is capable of, including me! Get out of my personal life!! :)

[crimethink]

So are you accepting the wager? We will ask the Mod's to permanently ban the ball sucking faggot loser's IP.

Just as soon as you agree to my wager, I will agree to yours.

[EE_]

Just as soon as you agree to my wager, I will agree to yours.

Mine is simple and anonymous. I'm not in the habit of giving my address/personal info to a nutcase like you. Try again

[crimethink]

Mine is simple and anonymous. I'm not in the habit of giving my address/personal info to a nutcase like you. Try again

Cowardly cop-out. You are a pussy. Admit it. You could have it sent to a PO Box addressed to "Boxholder," but you know you will lose the wager.

Your faggy proposal has no meat...as Jewboo has correctly pointed out, you can just reappear at will. "IP ban," LOL. My wager is for real money, and you're not man enough to put it up.

[crimethink]

Actually, EE_, I've been unfair to you. I guess I assumed you could sell that motorcycle to another gay biker to come up with the money to afford the Gold American Eagle. After all, we know your EBT card won't be able to buy a GAE.

How about we wager a $100 instead? Trump wins, you get a Ben Franklin FRN. Hillary wins, and you send me one instead.

[Rubicon]

Gonna take me a few days to absorb Rubicon's link. A treasure trove...


As CT said, be careful, some of the info. is questionable. 2nd paragraph from the bottom promotes the "official" 911 story (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/theend.htm)

[EE_]

Actually, EE_, I've been unfair to you. I guess I assumed you could sell that motorcycle to another gay biker to come up with the money to afford the Gold American Eagle. After all, we know your EBT card won't be able to buy a GAE.

How about we wager a $100 instead? Trump wins, you get a Ben Franklin FRN. Hillary wins, and you send me one instead.

So you want me to set up a PO box for 3 months for someone who can't be trusted to pay off a bet? I'm nobody's fool.

I don't usually give loud mouth little pricks like you the time of day and I've already given you way too much time.

You really do sound like a flake with a little man complex...I've seen your type plenty.

Look at all your angry posts, you are clearly mad at the world. Did you mother not give you enough love?

If you want to come up with a bet that can be trusted to be completed on this site, I'm game. Other then that, you're wasting my time.

[crimethink]

So you want me to set up a PO box for 3 months for someone who can't be trusted to pay off a bet? I'm nobody's fool.


Weasel, weasel, weasel. Anything to avoid manning-up and putting real money where your cockholster is.




You really do sound like a flake with a little man complex...I've seen your type plenty.

Ready to accept my wager? Surely you can spare $100 from your EBT cash? After all, you're such a "big man." :rolleyes:

[EE_]

Weasel, weasel, weasel. Anything to avoid manning-up and putting real money where your cockholster is.




Ready to accept my wager? Surely you can spare $100 from your EBT cash? After all, you're such a "big man." :rolleyes:

I don't know where in your warped little man mind, you think you can be automatically trusted to make and pay off a bet for money with someone you don't know?
Do you see what a kook you look like?

[Joshua01]

I don't know where in your warped little man mind, you think you can be automatically trusted to make and pay off a bet for money with someone you don't know?
Do you see what a kook you look like?

EE, why are you bringing yourself down to this guy's level? It's clear he has this hair across his ass and he's joined at the hip with Book (yeah, I got me a little history lesson this afternoon about the Jooboo and did a lot of research from there....knowledge is power) :)

[crimethink]

I don't know where in your warped little man mind, you think you can be automatically trusted to make and pay off a bet for money with someone you don't know?


Still don't have the balls to admit you're afraid you will lose the bet?

I never expected you to pay up, but was still willing to extend the wager, merely to show what a pathetic groupie cultist you are. A low-brow, low-down faggot like yourself who declares "Trump will win by a landslide" is someone so mentally & morally defective I would be the fool to believe you'd ever pay up when (not if) you lose.

[Jewboo]

If you want to come up with a bet that can be trusted to be completed on this site, I'm game. Other then that, you're wasting my time.



Simple. Loser sends the AGE to our moderator MADFRANKS and he forwards it to the winner.

:rolleyes: out of excuses now FF_

[Hitch]

Here's an idea. How about deciding on a bet, whomever loses, sends the GAE, $100, whatever to madfranks. Then madfranks forwards it on to the winner. That way you both keep your private info, private. Of course, this would be providing madfranks agrees, I believe everyone here trusts madfranks, don't know if he has a PO box though.

I remember years ago, ponce and artbarman had a bet over a roll of tp, for the silver price. They decided it wasn't worth shipping a roll of tp and the loser said publicly he lost, and they shook hands, online so to speak.

[Hitch]

Book, how'd you do that. You took my idea, while I was typing it, and posted it 1 minute before I was able to finish typing it and posting it.

You must be a God on ebay auctions.

[Jewboo]

Book, how'd you do that. You took my idea, while I was typing it, and posted it 1 minute before I was able to finish typing it and posting it.

You must be a God on ebay auctions.




:rolleyes: you copied my idea and now claim it...lol

[Hitch]

:rolleyes: you copied my idea and now claim it...lol


It was my idea. As I was typing it....you snuck in a quick post before I was done typing. .Gov monitoring at it's best. Well done!

[EE_]

Okay, here's my offer. We will each send $100 to madfranks right now via paypal, if he will be a party to this bet. Because of trust issues, I want crimethink to send his first.

Once I get confirmation from madfranks he has CT's money, I will immediately send mine. In 80 days the winner will be sent $175 and $25 will be left with madfranks to fund the site.

Can't get any easier then that.

Let me know CT when you are ready to send your half of the deal.

[Jewboo]

Okay, here's my offer. We will each send $100 to madfranks right now via paypal, if he will be a party to this bet. Because of trust issues, I want crimethink to send his first.

Once I get confirmation from madfranks he has CT's money, I will immediately send mine. In 80 days the winner will be sent $175 and $25 will be left with madfranks to fund the site.

Can't get any easier then that.

Let me know CT when you are ready to send your half of the deal.

Both send it now...Madfranks personally keeps the $25 for HIS trouble. No reason why JQP pockets the $25.

:(??

[EE_]

Both send it now...Madfranks personally keeps the $25 for HIS trouble. No reason why JQP pockets the $25.

:(??

Don't muck up the deal mister, I don't care what happens to the $25. I'll be happy to spend CT's $75 :)

[Neuro]

Historians of the future will dub it the "great white folly" of the 21st century.
Historians will not exist in a non-white future...

[Hitch]

Good on you guys...but madfranks needs to agree to this. There shouldn't be any pressure placed on him as well, should he not want to be a part of this wager.

Also, a lot can happen between now and the elections. Plus, accounting for rigged elections, such as Trump wins the vote, but the system gives it to hillary because she's in bed with the globalists. There may be a false flag event, martial law, and Obama decides to postpone the elections until our "safety"...aka, freedoms, have been secured.

[Joshua01]

Good on you guys...but madfranks needs to agree to this. There shouldn't be any pressure placed on him as well, should he not want to be a part of this wager.

Also, a lot can happen between now and the elections. Plus, accounting for rigged elections, such as Trump wins the vote, but the system gives it to hillary because she's in bed with the globalists. There may be a false flag event, martial law, and Obama decides to postpone the elections until our "safety"...aka, freedoms, have been secured.

Why would MF even want to get involved in this cluster fuck to begin with? It could go south in a heartbeat. He seems quite intelligent however; I would not go so far as to speak for him or anyone else.

[cheka.]

whites used to be needed to accomplish higher level things - designing and executing big projects, etc. but they are the biggest threat to the matrix of control...

now they have puters and robots for those white tasks

it makes sense to eliminate the threat of whites now that they are not needed. the subhumans are still needed as prostitutes, child sex slaves, pool cleaners, etc. the threat to the matrix drops to near zero as whites fade away

[Ares]

whites used to be needed to accomplish higher level things - designing and executing big projects, etc. but they are the biggest threat to the matrix of control...

now they have puters and robots for those white tasks

it makes sense to eliminate the threat of whites now that they are not needed. the subhumans are still needed as prostitutes, child sex slaves, pool cleaners, etc. the threat to the matrix drops to near zero as whites fade away

Yeah... Critical thinking gets you in trouble.

[EE_]

Bump!


Okay, here's my offer. We will each send $100 to madfranks right now via paypal, if he will be a party to this bet. Because of trust issues, I want crimethink to send his first.

Once I get confirmation from madfranks he has CT's money, I will immediately send mine. In 80 days the winner will be sent $175 and $25 will be left with madfranks to fund the site.

Can't get any easier then that.

Let me know CT when you are ready to send your half of the deal.

[Neuro]

Take the money Madfranks, and then pretend you never got any. That should be fun!

[crimethink]

Okay, here's my offer. We will each send $100 to madfranks right now via paypal, if he will be a party to this bet. Because of trust issues, I want crimethink to send his first.

Once I get confirmation from madfranks he has CT's money, I will immediately send mine. In 80 days the winner will be sent $175 and $25 will be left with madfranks to fund the site.

Can't get any easier then that.

Let me know CT when you are ready to send your half of the deal.

My original and second offers have been made, and stand as originally stated. You are too chicken shit to accept either of them.

There is zero reason I need to send any money, since I won't be losing the wager.

[Neuro]

Semicryptojew Trump is the designated loser!

[EE_]

My original and second offers have been made, and stand as originally stated. You are too chicken shit to accept either of them.

There is zero reason I need to send any money, since I won't be losing the wager.

I've met you half way and now you're punking out?

http://cdn2.debtroundup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/do-you-feel-lucky-punk.jpg

[ximmy]

Lets bet a ASE... I want in... I'm for trump

[EE_]

Lets bet a ASE... I want in... I'm for trump

You are a smart cookie! Trump is going to win, it's a good bet.

CT is the kind of guy that only collects bets from strangers, he won't pay and will disappear like all the other times he's left.

[Joshua01]

You are a smart cookie! Trump is going to win, it's a good bet.



All things being equal I would agree with you....problem is....well, you know...

[Hitch]

I'll bet an ASE for a Trump win as well.

Maybe we need to get some sort of pool going.

[crimethink]

I've met you half way and now you're punking out?


Uh, no, you didn't. I offered a GAE, and you refused. I offered a $100, and you refused. Then you tried to change the rules, and now claim I'm the problem?

Accept one of the first two offers, or admit you are not man enough to put money on your "sure win" candidate.

[EE_]

My original and second offers have been made, and stand as originally stated. You are too chicken shit to accept either of them.

There is zero reason I need to send any money, since I won't be losing the wager.

The reason you have to send the money now is because the bet is being made now. A lot can happen in 80 days and you could change your mind.
The only way to guarantee the bet, is to have the money deposited with a neutral party now. Plus no worry about exchanging addresses.
I'm not worried about getting your address, but I do have a problem with giving you mine when it's time for you to pay me.

[EE_]

Uh, no, you didn't. I offered a GAE, and you refused. I offered a $100, and you refused. Then you tried to change the rules, and now claim I'm the problem?

Accept one of the first two offers, or admit you are not man enough to put money on your "sure win" candidate.

You're sounding like a real punk now. You want to take my money and I'm ready to put it up. The bet is now, put up or shut up.

[crimethink]

You're sounding like a real punk now. You want to take my money and I'm ready to put it up. The bet is now, put up or shut up.

Which of my original proposals do you accept then? The GAE or $100? Winner will pay on November 9th.

[Ares]

Can I offer Bitcoin as a solution? A TRUSTED 3rd party would be the holder of the wallet, EE and Crimethink can send a bitcoin to the trusted 3rd party. Both can see the funds in the wallet and know that it is there. No personal or identifiable information will be seen by either party. Come November 9th the winner gets the funds in the wallet.

Hey just putting that out there. :)

[EE_]

Which of my original proposals do you accept then? The GAE or $100? Winner will pay on November 9th.

I'll take the $100 bet because I don't want madfranks to hold a gold eagle for 80 days. Let's see if he will do this?
Maybe Ares might be willing to be the neutral party? Ares is a stand up guy I believe we can trust too.

[Ares]

I'll take the $100 bet because I don't want madfranks to hold a gold eagle for 80 days. Let's see if he will do this?
Maybe Ares might be willing to be the neutral party? Ares is a stand up guy I believe we can trust too.

But that means I have to give you guys my personal identifiable information. LOL

[ximmy]

I don't have any bit coins.. I'd have to use a Bit-O-Zimmy

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5706&d=1385157348

[EE_]

Can I offer Bitcoin as a solution? A TRUSTED 3rd party would be the holder of the wallet, EE and Crimethink can send a bitcoin to the trusted 3rd party. Both can see the funds in the wallet and know that it is there. No personal or identifiable information will be seen by either party. Come November 9th the winner gets the funds in the wallet.

Hey just putting that out there. :)

You know it. It's the only way for this bet to be fair, is to have the money held by a third party now.

[crimethink]

You know it. It's the only way for this bet to be fair, is to have the money held by a third party now.

You are not rewriting the rules. You either take one of my two original offers, or you don't.

[Ares]

You are not rewriting the rules. You either take one of my two original offers, or you don't.

Could be $100 worth of BTC.

There is no sales tax on btc. :)

[Rubicon]

https://media.8ch.net/awyattmann/src/1468126654629-1.jpg
https://media.8ch.net/awyattmann/src/1468126848105-1.jpg

[Hitch]

I don't have any bit coins.. I'd have to use a Bit-O-Zimmy

A warm hug from ximmy is worth more than all the bit coins created. I wager a Hug-O-Zimmy, and an ASE, for a Trump win in Nov.

[vacuum]

lol, you guys.

I suggest both of you donate $1000 to Trump's campaign RIGHT NOW, and don't worry about the wager.

Trump's already earned it with the issues he's brought up and the fact that he's uncucking white america every single day.

[cheka.]

lol, you guys.

I suggest both of you donate $1000 to Trump's campaign RIGHT NOW, and don't worry about the wager.

Trump's already earned it with the issues he's brought up and the fact that he's uncucking white america every single day.

great point. just like ron paul and frbny awareness. the win is already won. prez election is icing

[crimethink]

Can I offer Bitcoin as a solution? A TRUSTED 3rd party would be the holder of the wallet, EE and Crimethink can send a bitcoin to the trusted 3rd party. Both can see the funds in the wallet and know that it is there. No personal or identifiable information will be seen by either party. Come November 9th the winner gets the funds in the wallet.

Hey just putting that out there. :)

Thanks for the ideas, but the "other party" wants it his way, and I'm not going to budge.

[crimethink]

lol, you guys.

I suggest both of you donate $1000 to Trump's campaign RIGHT NOW, and don't worry about the wager.

Trump's already earned it with the issues he's brought up and the fact that he's uncucking white america every single day.

I have no intention of voting for him, so there's no way I'm giving him $1, let alone $1000.

And no, I'm not voting for Her Majesty, either, of course. I'm not registered to vote, since registration is agreement with their crooked game. Voting is consent, and I most certainly do not consent.

[EE_]

You are not rewriting the rules. You either take one of my two original offers, or you don't.

Your offers?...hardly. You threw down a challenge to me. I met you halfway and you punked out.
It's a good thing you did punk out. It was a losing proposition and a bad bet from the get.

1. you would have lost your ass and had to run away from GSUS in shame, as a welcher
2. you would be rooting for Hillary to win for the next 80 days (what kind of piece of shit would do that)
3. you would be rooting for the destruction of our country and for the globalist to succeed (pure evil)
4. you would look like a bigger dickhead then you already are

That's what I call a bad bet all the way around.

[crimethink]

Your offers?...hardly. You threw down a challenge to me. I met you halfway and you punked out.
It's a good thing you did punk out. It was a losing proposition and a bad bet from the get.

1. you would have lost your ass and had to run away from GSUS in shame, as a welcher
2. you would be rooting for Hillary to win for the next 80 days (what kind of piece of shit would do that)
3. you would be rooting for the destruction of our country and for the globalist to succeed (pure evil)
4. you would look like a bigger dickhead then you already are

That's what I call a bad bet all the way around.

I'm sorry your limited intelligence doesn't allow you to understand my original post.

You don't understand this: I do not gamble. I'm would not be the one losing the wager, so, no, I wouldn't be "rooting for Hillary" or the "destruction of our country." I guess I should have realized your double-digit IQ cannot fathom that Trump is not going to win any more than George Wallace was going to win.

Even if Trump had the votes, which he does not, what Trump is perceived to represent cannot and will not be permitted to have any victory. His defeat will be another mindfuck in the carefully-managed Psychodrome, which arguably began when Kennedy took his ride through Dealey Plaza, "killing America" in the mass consciousness. This time, Trump's defeat will be "killing White America."

You claim to have absolute confidence in Trump's victory, but zero courage to put hard money down showing you really believe it. You whined like a pansy liberal about "muh privacy."

In reality, it is you who are rooting for the destruction of America, subconsciously, by supporting non-"solutions" like Trump, in the same "voting can change things" mentality that has failed, and failed, and failed again for decades. You place your hope in an idol instead of actual solutions that could have worked, and maybe, in theory, could still work.