What would you do if?................... V

[Ponce]

You woke up one morning and there was NO MORE Social Security checks?........ I would be fine, but, how about you? what would you do???

When I say that I would be fine I simply mean that I would stop paying for anything.......Ponce on strike.

V

[madfranks]

I am a working man, so I don't collect social security. If what you say happened, I would rejoice because then (presumably) the government wouldn't be stealing the money out of my paychecks every week.

[crimethink]

No more Social Security = Civil War

No more welfare checks = Civil War

The System will continue them as long as possible, as open warfare is a wildcard, even possibly a Black Swan, they can't control.

[Jewboo]

No more Social Security = Civil War

No more welfare checks = Civil War

The System will continue them as long as possible, as open warfare is a wildcard, even possibly a Black Swan, they can't control.

Many Social Security geezers have other income and children to fall back on. When the EBT foodstamp cards stop working niggers only have this to fall back on:

https://latimesphoto.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/0430-riots04.jpg

[monty]

I am a working man, so I don't collect social security. If what you say happened, I would rejoice because then (presumably) the government wouldn't be stealing the money out of my paychecks every week.


I think they would continue stealing your money so long as you have a signed W-4 on file regardless of whether they are able to pay or not.

[madfranks]

No more Social Security = Civil War

No more welfare checks = Civil War

The System will continue them as long as possible, as open warfare is a wildcard, even possibly a Black Swan, they can't control.

I don't think they can just stop them outright, but they will be means-testing social security as it gets tighter and tighter. Raise the retirement age, reduce benefits or lower the annual adjusted increases; whatever it is, they will push slowly and gauge resistance, making sure they don't cut too much at once. By the time I retire, if there's even a country left, I either won't be getting SS or it will be so small it will be no good.

[Camp Bassfish]

I am a working man, so I don't collect social security. If what you say happened, I would rejoice because then (presumably) the government wouldn't be stealing the money out of my paychecks every week.

Beat me to it....

[Ponce]

Only need 1/3 of my SS to live with........I planned in the past for the future, even took into account my retirement point.

But of course I really don't know for how much longer will I live......the Dr says that for a long time but in the shape that I am in I really don't want it to be much longer....will see, you wont get rid of me that easy......long live Ponce .......

V

[palani]

There is a dichotomy.

1) Freedom
2) Social welfare (SSN)

I know for a fact that without a SSN or some form of tax ID number you will be unable to become a plaintiff in any court case.

I suspect that this means if you cannot be a plaintiff you also cannot be named a defendant.

Lack of a SSN is a form of civil death similar to the status enjoyed by monks of any religious order in the middle ages.

This does not mean if they stop sending you a social welfare check that you are catapulted into the status of 'free'. What Hitler did to the Jews by tattooing a number on the arm is what your government did to you by tattooing a number on the brain. As long as you are asked for a number and you provide one you are going to fit into the less than free category.

[Hitch]

I am a working man, so I don't collect social security. If what you say happened, I would rejoice because then (presumably) the government wouldn't be stealing the money out of my paychecks every week.

I wouldn't rejoice, I would be pissed off because I've been paying into it for the past 25 years. If they cancelled it, I would expect a paycheck for ever dollar they took. Add to how many working Americans, 150 million? and that's one big lawsuit against the .gov.

They will never cancel SS, even if it's technically insolvent. They would go into even further debt and crash the dollar first. Or, do a 10% haircut on all 401K's and pensions out there to float SS for longer.

Too many retired folks, who've worked their whole lives paying into, need SS to get by. What they will do, is keep extending the age limit to start collecting it.

[Neuro]

I wouldn't rejoice, I would be pissed off because I've been paying into it for the past 25 years. If they cancelled it, I would expect a paycheck for ever dollar they took. Add to how many working Americans, 150 million? and that's one big lawsuit against the .gov.

They will never cancel SS, even if it's technically insolvent. They would go into even further debt and crash the dollar first. Or, do a 10% haircut on all 401K's and pensions out there to float SS for longer.

Too many retired folks, who've worked their whole lives paying into, need SS to get by. What they will do, is keep extending the age limit to start collecting it.

They can work on the other side of the timeline too, by decreasing the average age the last payment is done! People only have egoistic motives to live after 75 anyway after all. They legalize and popularize euthanasia as a first step! Then those who are irresponsible and doesn't make the good rational choice deserves a swift death penalty...

[Jewboo]

People only have egoistic motives to live after 75 anyway after all. They legalize and popularize euthanasia as a first step!



Ponce is around 75...lol.

:D

[Hitch]

They can work on the other side of the timeline too, by decreasing the average age the last payment is done! People only have egoistic motives to live after 75 anyway after all. They legalize and popularize euthanasia as a first step! Then those who are irresponsible and doesn't make the good rational choice deserves a swift death penalty...

Dang, now that's being pessimistic! I never thought of that, but the way media and .gov can program our societies into willing follow each other off a cliff, you might be right. They will find a way to demonize old people, for being old. Just like white folks are demonized for being white. It's all our fault.

What a world we live in. Vote trump and buy more ammo, and food, and other preps.

[Ponce]

Hehehehehehehehehe 76

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[crimethink]

Dang, now that's being pessimistic! I never thought of that, but the way media and .gov can program our societies into willing follow each other off a cliff, you might be right. They will find a way to demonize old people, for being old. Just like white folks are demonized for being white. It's all our fault.

The correlation between > 75 and White is very high, still.

When I did geriatric social work, we were literally the difference between life and death for most of our clients. Out of home care is the quick way to the undertaker for people. The longer we could keep them in the home, with supports, the longer they'd live. Sick and/or elderly folks die sometimes in months in a SNF (nursing home).

In the last several years, more and more pressures have occurred to make that in-home care more difficult to sustain. It's more costly to put someone in a SNF per diem, but if they only live three to six months instead of years, there is "cost-benefit" to both corporations and government.

Much of the funding and limited social work resources are being directed away from Americans to non-Americans, especially "children" (anchor babies & rapefugees). Who wouldn't want to help "a child" over an old person anyway, right? Obama's "Medicaid Expansion" (part of Obama"care") was funded largely by directing Medicare funds to Medicaid. And that was for coverage for, more often than not, non-White adults (including "youths" over 18).

Involuntary euthanasia isn't going to happen for at least a generation, say, when the Millennials become dominant. Millennials are overwhelmingly anti-life, being brought up nihilists without grounding in ancient values that have sustained us for so long. Until then, American old folks will be given bare minimum to make it look better than outright offing them - slop for "Meals on Wheels," low-wages for caregivers (and a consequent level of "care"), sardine-can "care" in SNFs with horrendous staffing ratios - so that they die more quickly, but not "quickly enough" for the anti-humans. Think the VA is bad for care? Try most any SNF.