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JohnQPublic
20th September 2016, 09:04 PM
8489

ooh, ooohh

Are all Alt-righters white supremacists? Is there a camp that recognizes that the American Indians were here first, that blacks were brought here, and are part of the landscape at this point, etc.?

Rubicon
20th September 2016, 09:11 PM
Stone-age Europeans 'were the first to set foot on North America' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html)

cheka.
20th September 2016, 09:12 PM
race realists is more accurate. whites can build, negroes can run, jews can jew..etc

Neuro
20th September 2016, 09:16 PM
8489

ooh, ooohh

Are all Alt-righters white supremacists? Is there a camp that recognizes that the American Indians were here first, that blacks were brought here, and are part of the landscape at this point, etc.?
I think Alt-righters prefer the term racial realists, or racialist. They realize races are not equal. Black skin need more sunlight to produce sufficient amounts of vit D, that should be a clue to where they should be... American Indians were not there first probably, but I think they could stay.

JohnQPublic
20th September 2016, 10:28 PM
According to Milo it is more about Western Civilization (ooh, sounds so Larouchian).

8491

I guess RedIce disagree:


https://youtu.be/IKGBWNGiGMU

Neuro
20th September 2016, 11:13 PM
Did you move all the Alt. Right perceived topics away from general discussion into the containment area?

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mamboni
21st September 2016, 08:01 AM
It's funny how men have devoted countless hours and generations breeding various dogs. Pet owners would be aghast to allow different pure breeds to cross. Yet, if folk wish to preserve their particular racial, ethnic, cultural heritages by staying within their own kind, they are labeled as 'racist' by some. The term 'racist,' like 'anti-semitic' is a highly charged term which has no specific meaning and is at best ambiguous. These terms need to be challenged at their first utterance. These are linguistic first-strike weapons. (((kosher))) and Pepe are natural reactions to the insidious verbal attacks of the vast left wing conspiracy [Hillary!].

JohnQPublic
21st September 2016, 08:55 AM
Did you move all the Alt. Right perceived topics away from general discussion into the containment area?

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No. I saved the discussions from getting lost by placing them in their own conspicuously labeled forum, plus am allowing discussions to happen in General also, comrade. Alt right is a hot topic now, and deserves its own forum.

JohnQPublic
21st September 2016, 08:58 AM
It's funny how men have devoted countless hours and generations breeding various dogs. Pet owners would be aghast to allow different pure breeds to cross. Yet, if folk wish to preserve their particular racial, ethnic, cultural heritages by staying within their own kind, they are labeled as 'racist' by some. The term 'racist,' like 'anti-semitic' is a highly charged term which has no specific meaning and is at best ambiguous. These terms need to be challenged at their first utterance. These are linguistic first-strike weapons. (((kosher))) and Pepe are natural reactions to the insidious verbal attacks of the vast left wing conspiracy [Hillary!].

I agree. Political correctness is the catch phrase that captures a lot of these ideas. Thanks to Donald Trump (regardless of whether he wins or not, and I think he may) a war on political correctness has started, and perhaps an intelligent discussion can start.

Shami-Amourae
21st September 2016, 09:20 AM
8489

ooh, ooohh

Are all Alt-righters white supremacists?

The world "White Supremacist" is meant as a derogatory term. Personally I don't want to accept that though, since I think it's a good thing to be superior. I'd hate to feel or think I am inferior to other people. Most Jews are Jewish Supremacists, but they call themselves "Zionists". This is considered acceptable since only Whites aren't allowed to be proud of who they are. When you live in a world where victimology is power, no one wants to be viewed as successful or superior.

The Alt-Right is racial realist, and do view Whites as the superior race overall, though we are the weakest in the current Politically Correct environment due to our Pathological Altruism. All other races have realized how to manipulate us based on our Pathological Altruism. As our society becomes increasingly less-White, it will become an increasingly low-trust society, and White people will have to evolve/change in order to continue existing. This is the reason for the Alt-Right. This is our solution.

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You'll notice there's a core Alt-Right group, and then there's an outsider/mainstream group forming/adopting around the edges like Milo, Alex Jones, and Breitbart. These people cannot be Alt-Right since they are egalitarians. You must believe egalitarianism is false to trully be Alt-Right since the core philosophy is the rejection of egalitarianism. They want to adopt/hijack the Alt-Right movement since they want to force it back onto the egalitarianism plantation where Whites continue to get subjugated and have to take care of/babysit everyone else while we're openly despised and slaughtered.

The main thing you need to understand is the United States was founded as a White Nationalist country. We had racial quotas on immigration and only allowed Whites from Europe to move to the US. We had these policies up until the 1960s. You cannot believe in the Constitution and the Founding Fathers, and not understand the fact that the greatness of America comes from the fact that it was built by Whites, and not sub-70 IQ Negroes (the average IQ for Blacks, which is considered clinically retarded for Whites.)





Is there a camp that recognizes that the American Indians were here first
That has nothing to do with the Alt-Right. I'm part of a camp that believes Whites were in America first around 30,000 BC, but got wiped out by invading Siberians around 10,000 BC. When the Vikings came over 1000 years ago or so they got wiped out too by the Siberians. Then when the Spanish/Europeans came they slaughtered a ton of Siberians, mostly with biological warfare.

Many of us don't like to call them "Native" Americans though. They didn't build America, and all the bad things we get accused of, they did tenfold (wars, slavery, cannibalism, and so on.)

This subject is highly debatable, and most people in the Alt-Right have different opinions, but they generally don't feel bad for the Siberians, or think we owe them anything.

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that blacks were brought here
Most of the African slaves were captures by Arabs and other Blacks, and the slave trading companies and ships were all owned/run by Jews.
This:
>Let me get this straight, niggers.
>You terrorize and enslave your own people, sell them to the top 1% of wealthy whites in America who feed, bathe and educate them for 300 years, convince 900,000 white Americans to die for the cause of freeing you, force all whites to give you unprecedented attention and privileges in every conceivable form of media and education, demand that white cops stop arresting black people while simultaneously extorting money from the government in the form of welfare, and you're angry when we tell you to move on from history?

Neuro
21st September 2016, 09:25 AM
No. I saved the discussions from getting lost by placing them in their own conspicuously labeled forum, plus am allowing discussions to happen in General also, comrade. Alt right is a hot topic now, and deserves its own forum.

To me it doesn't matter so much, as I am clicking the "new post" button, but I think some only reads what is going on in general discussion. I used to do so myself for a long time, until I discovered the aforementioned button, so if a discussion happens in an obscure forum instead of in general discussion it is like you put a damp cloth on the discussion, because you limit the discussion to those who specifically goes to the obscure forum. And if someone doesn't give an input for a long time it won't show up in the new post list either.

I thought you said you were only going to move threads which hadn't been active for some time. Looking at the threads it seems like most where active very recently. How about having duplicate threads? One that is running in general discussion, and one that is saved for posterity in alt. Right forum?

Neuro
21st September 2016, 09:31 AM
Wow! Star post Shami! ^

Shami-Amourae
21st September 2016, 09:35 AM
According to Milo it is more about Western Civilization (ooh, sounds so Larouchian).

Trust Milo as much as you'd trust Glenn Beck as being a "Conservative".

Sure, he'll bring people into the movement, but he's trying to destroy the core message of the Alt-Right.

Most people on the Alt-Right are against Milo now. There's like a pseudo-Alt-Right movement now forming that believes in egalitarianism and that the "Democrats are the real racist". This is basically the Alex Jones crowd.

Read for yourself on 4chan:
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/milo/

Jews typically try to hijack successful movements they fear will destroy them. The core of the Alt-Right is still strong, but it's just the newcomers they get caught up into it. Ironically Milo isn't taking people away from our side,but we are taking people away from his side. Once you become a racial realist, you can never go back. You're literally acknowledging how nature works.

JohnQPublic
21st September 2016, 09:36 AM
Shami- all that is somewhat academic. My point is not that "Indians" owned America, nor that their presence gives them some rights to it. My only point is that they were here when we got here in the latest wave (say post Columbus). Plus we brought black slaves (against their will). They are here, and have rights under law, regardless of what you think about their intelligence, etc. I am not arguing about western civilization. I would say Western Civilization is a combination of the great pagans (Rome, Greece, etc.) PLUS (and this is important) the influence of Christianity (you may disagree with this part). I think if alt right is going to be successful in the US it has to integrate all people legally here into a movement, but I agree it has to be based on the best aspects of western civilization (and I am not siding with Milo; I am against any special rights for LGBTQKSHFUEMFLOLFKDLFJKDNHFDL, etc.). The movement does not have to embrace total egalitarianism, and we do have the right to decide who to allow to immigrate here based on our values, etc.. I think Christianity is probably a better guiding principle than eugenics or occultism. Just my 2 cents.

Shami-Amourae
21st September 2016, 09:50 AM
I think Christianity is probably a better guiding principle than eugenics or occultism. Just my 2 cents.
First off, a majority of the 3rd world shit flooding into America are Christians. Most Mestizos from Central and South America are Catholic.

Anyone can claim to be Christian to come here. It's like having the "refugees" that are coming in to say they aren't terrorists or part of ISIS.

Also this:
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Christianity is one of the the fastest growing religions among East Asians.







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Christianity is quickly becoming a non-White religion. This is why the Pope is currently pro-refugee/tsunami-immigration.

White "Christianity" is dominated by Marxist cuckolds who care more about feeding Nigger kids in Africa and adopting Nigger kids to prove they aren't "racist".
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You can NOT ever EVER EVER have Libertarian style government and Liberty with colored people. Non-Whites/Asians are almost all collectivists and will demand GibsMeDat as long as a White person is around.



Christianity is no longer the basis for forming a civilization. It's officially a cuckold religion. I'm sorry, but that boat has long sailed.

Shami-Amourae
21st September 2016, 10:02 AM
Shami- all that is somewhat academic. My point is not that "Indians" owned America, nor that their presence gives them some rights to it. My only point is that they were here when we got here in the latest wave (say post Columbus). Plus we brought black slaves (against their will). They are here, and have rights under law, regardless of what you think about their intelligence, etc. I am not arguing about western civilization. I

They should have been completely wiped out. All of the Americas were conquered by White Europeans, but it was the United States who carried out genocide on them. If this had not happened our country would have been a shithole full of meztizo mud people like all of the countries in South America.

Nature is about the strong wiping out the weak. If you do not allow this to occur, and aren't unapologetic about it all that happens is the weak wipe out the strong.

You cannot have 2 competing civilizations in the same landmass without one wiping out the other. There is NO peaceful solution where everyone will get along. That's not how nature or society works, or has ever worked.

Kill or be killed.

Shami-Amourae
21st September 2016, 10:09 AM
I think if alt right is going to be successful in the US it has to integrate all people legally here into a movement, but I agree it has to be based on the best aspects of western civilization (and I am not siding with Milo; I am against any special rights for LGBTQKSHFUEMFLOLFKDLFJKDNHFDL, etc.).

There's a fairly peaceful solution.

Simply stop paying welfare to new immigrants/refugees/illegal aliens. Start cutting benefits and watch them go to the next White nation instead of ours since they wont get GibsMeDat here.

Most of these non-Whites are breeding like rats, and immigrating to our countries since we pay them to do so. They are otherwise unproductive, and cannot maintain civilization without White people supporting them.


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Watch this micro-documentary on the history of Haiti to understand my point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJLh3QCNgM

Neuro
21st September 2016, 10:57 AM
Plus we brought black slaves (against their will).
No you didn't, unless you are a Jew. The transatlantic slave trade was an internal Jewish business.

Shami-Amourae
21st September 2016, 11:12 AM
No you didn't, unless you are a Jew. The transatlantic slave trade was an internal Jewish business.

Lincoln was planning on sending them all back to Africa, but got mysteriously assassinated too.
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>Trusting the Jew with his sale on Farming Equipment

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Joshua01
21st September 2016, 11:33 AM
Lincoln was planning on sending them all back to Africa, but got mysteriously assassinated too.
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>Trusting the Jew with his sale on Farming Equipment

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Attempting to combat the racial SJWs with facts is a fruitless effort. These people haven't got an objective logical cell in their bodies. They're drones, white apologists and black thugs. Not a recipe for success IMHO

Shami-Amourae
21st September 2016, 11:36 AM
Attempting to combat the racial SJWs with facts is a fruitless effort. These people haven't got an objective logical cell in their bodies. They're drones, white apologists and black thugs. Not a recipe for success IMHO


This isn't Facebook.

Joshua01
21st September 2016, 11:37 AM
This isn't Facebook.

That's for shit sure :)

JohnQPublic
21st September 2016, 07:35 PM
First off, a majority of the 3rd world shit flooding into America are Christians. Most Mestizos from Central and South America are Catholic.

I would rather be flooded by Christians, rather then people from very different cyultures that want to kill us. But my point about Christianity was not to address immigration issues.


Anyone can claim to be Christian to come here. It's like having the "refugees" that are coming in to say they aren't terrorists or part of ISIS.

Immigration is an issue in itself.



Christianity is one of the the fastest growing religions among East Asians.



Christianity is quickly becoming a non-White religion. This is why the Pope is currently pro-refugee/tsunami-immigration.

Interesting. Christ said to get and spread the Gospel to all nations, not all "white" nations. So I guess God's plan is working!


White "Christianity" is dominated by Marxist cuckolds who care more about feeding Nigger kids in Africa and adopting Nigger kids to prove they aren't "racist".

Politocal correctness effects everybody. That is why it needs to be eliminated.



You can NOT ever EVER EVER have Libertarian style government and Liberty with colored people. Non-Whites/Asians are almost all collectivists and will demand GibsMeDat as long as a White person is around.

That is true for some white people too. Look at that place, what is it called? Oh, yea, Europe.





Christianity is no longer the basis for forming a civilization. It's officially a cuckold religion. I'm sorry, but that boat has long sailed.



I have to disagree. Everything, including much of Christianity is off the rails, and needs to be corrected.

JohnQPublic
21st September 2016, 07:38 PM
There's a fairly peaceful solution.

Simply stop paying welfare to new immigrants/refugees/illegal aliens. Start cutting benefits and watch them go to the next White nation instead of ours since they wont get GibsMeDat here.



We can try that. I suspect a lot of whites will follow. If Trump is elected some whites may go to Canada (stay clear of the border gate as it swings shut), or at least that is what they are saying.

cheka.
21st September 2016, 09:42 PM
doc said it as concise as possible -- end the fed

if the nyc.dc fucktwits had to pay with gold/silver coin none of this shit would be going on

Shami-Amourae
22nd September 2016, 02:12 AM
doc said it as concise as possible -- end the fed

if the nyc.dc fucktwits had to pay with gold/silver coin none of this shit would be going on
The Gold and Silver thing is LARPing at this point and will never happen as long as we have virtual reality and Internet.

Everything is moving to the virtual world.

By the way, that doesn't mean they aren't good investments, I'm just saying it means they won't be used as money. The only shot we have for them to be used as money is if cash is banned and drug dealers move to gold and silver as an untraceable form of money.

Shami-Amourae
22nd September 2016, 02:27 AM
I would rather be flooded by Christians, rather then people from very different cyultures that want to kill us. But my point about Christianity was not to address immigration issues.


Do you really think the Founding Fathers would allow Mestizos to invade our nation like this? These people were almost all White Nationalists, as we call them today. The Left is actually completely correct to call them all racists, because they were, but I view this as a good thing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZE3dtRaDvM

The Founding Fathers are what I'd call National Libertarians. This is on a different economic spectrum as Europe, who will go National Socialist. Most of the right-wing red-blooded Libertarian type White people have already moved to America in the 1600-1900s. Our ancestors saw the shit going down in Europe and left everything to build a better life. All the new immigrants just want free handouts, and few actually want to work.

Most people on the Alt-Right in America are basically ex-Libertarians who have woken up to the race issue and reality that our civilization will crumble if it's not dealt with. The European ones seem to gravitate towards National Socialism though.

JohnQPublic
22nd September 2016, 09:03 AM
You missed this quote in your responses:


You can NOT ever EVER EVER have Libertarian style government and Liberty with colored people. Non-Whites/Asians are almost all collectivists and will demand GibsMeDat as long as a White person is around.

That is true for some white people too. Look at that place, what is it called? Oh, yea, Europe.



Do you really think the Founding Fathers would allow Mestizos to invade our nation like this? These people were almost all White Nationalists, as we call them today. The Left is actually completely correct to call them all racists, because they were, but I view this as a good thing.

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The Founding Fathers are what I'd call National Libertarians. This is on a different economic spectrum as Europe, who will go National Socialist. Most of the right-wing red-blooded Libertarian type White people have already moved to America in the 1600-1900s. Our ancestors saw the shit going down in Europe and left everything to build a better life. All the new immigrants just want free handouts, and few actually want to work.

Most people on the Alt-Right in America are basically ex-Libertarians who have woken up to the race issue and reality that our civilization will crumble if it's not dealt with. The European ones seem to gravitate towards National Socialism though.

Ok. I agree some of the founding fathers (if not most or even all) were racist to some degree. But, many did not want slavery on US soil, but had to compromise to bring the southern colonies in. Also, George and other fathers actually freed their slaves at some point, so they at least understood in principle the evil of slavery. Again, this does not mean they felt slaves were their equals.

But practically speaking, what the founding fathers thought (and in some instances this is unfortunate) does not dictate our reality today. We are involved in many foreign entanglements. Gold and silver are not money, etc. (this is even in the constitution itself).

At the time that the US was founded I suspect that most did not envision taking over the entire continent. They were thinking in terms of the 13 colonies, and maybe some expansion from that. As the US expanded, it expanded into territories that included many non-white populations (the West, Hawaii to name a couple). The west was Spain, then Mexico. When it was annexed to the US, many in the existing populations stayed. Many were of European descent, but many were mixed also.

So, again, the practical issue is how to get closer to a constitutional republic of the sort outlined in the our current constitution, and what role does race play in that? If, as you propose, we end welfare, etc., you are right that may lead to a lot of immigrants (illegal or legal) leaving. But the blacks are not going to leave. A lot of Hispanics are not going to leave (I assure you that in the West, they work, support their families, etc.). The Asians are not going to leave- in fact they are doing better than many whites. Many whites want to be financial planners or contractors or involved in sales or business, work 9-5 at more cush jobs and watch sports on the weekends, while the Asians are studying engineering, science, etc. and taking over difficult well paying technical fields. I visit a lot of companies in my job, and I can tell you Asians (and Indians) have taken over as engineers. In Detroit Middle Easterners are a huge component (a lot of whites are still engineers in Detroit, a few blacks, but whites are not a majority anymore). A lot of this has to do with our immigration policies. But it does illustrate that race is not as major a factor as you imply, in fact whites are no longer on top everywhere, and this is their fault. They are not having children, and they are less willing/able to study and work at hard jobs. It is also the case that many whites are being disenfranchised from the university systems, and even if they wanted to study engineering, etc., they have to compete with Asians (primarily) and their full tuition offerings (as well as their "Asian Mom" upbringing that forces them to study 7/24 while American kids play sports and enjoy their life).

Where are the blacks going to go? Liberia? They may suffer, or they may start working harder, become more responsible, take care of their families, etc. Some do already, so it is possible. The real issue is in the Democrat controlled (and the Republicans have done nothing to counter this) inner cities. In the suburbs and better parts of cities there are blacks that are more or less the same as the whites (basically pathetic bread and circus robots, but at least working and responsible for their families to some degree). In the inner cites things are bad, no question. In rural areas I suspect the situation with blacks is mixed (I have less experience in rural areas).

When you talk about race, I think you need to talk about race/ethnicity/culture. These are some observations from my limited experience.

Whites- were on top; took it for granted. Still control the political process to some degree. Still on top at the very top (CEOs, etc.). Middle and lower class whites are losing it, partially because they want/expect an advantage in a political system that has sold them down the river by removing any concept of nationalism.

Middle class Hispanics- very much like whites. Less achieving academically historically, but still close. Are part of the landscape in the west as the west was Spain/Mexico (numbers wise most are immigrants).
Lower class Hispanics- stuck in ghettos, etc. Take jobs from blacks. Work harder then blacks, and try to achieve middle class or more. Some do succeed.

Asians- Work much harder than many whites. Dominating good paying technical fields for middle class whites by starting much younger (Asian Mom Syndrome). Mostly immigrants and here because of our stupid immigration system. I am not against Asians, but the visa waiver program does disadvantage a lot of American middle class people (all categories).

Blacks- Know only America as a home. Stuck in inner cities, some rural. A smaller black middle class indicates they can succeed if they have the opportunity. Require some cultural changes and to stop being coddled by Democrats for their votes. They are here and practically have nowhere else to go.

Muslims- still a minority except in some local areas (i.e., Detroit/Dearborn for instance). Tend to be smarter and work hard. They tend to succeed in occupations such as engineering, and thus some have good paying middle class jobs. Obama would love to increase this category, but their cultural issues are glaring, and thus we have Trump.

crimethink
24th September 2016, 07:14 PM
Everything is moving to the virtual world.


You've based your livelihood and future on that, and want to believe it.

However, soon people will learn all that can be turned off with the click of a button. Deliberately or inadvertently. You cannot eat iTunes. The technocratic Car Salesmen will be unable to function when their iPhones shut down and Starbucks closes up for good.