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Ares
7th October 2016, 08:49 AM
https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/324776022-monmouth.pdf
I've downloaded and scanned. Appears to be Legit.
Read through it, you'll LOVE some of the trends they are extremely worried about. :)
Joshua01
7th October 2016, 09:11 AM
https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/324776022-monmouth.pdf
I've downloaded and scanned. Appears to be Legit.
Read through it, you'll LOVE some of the trends they are extremely worried about. :)
Anyone who thinks that polls are real needs to read this document. Trump would be ahead by 50 points (50 points you might ask?) if truthful polling were being done
mamboni
7th October 2016, 09:35 AM
They say that Hillary will lose unless they can convince the electorate that she is not a serial liar and not severely ill.
Good luck assholes.
EE_
7th October 2016, 09:36 AM
Anyone who thinks that polls are real needs to read this document. Trump would be ahead by 50 points (50 points you might ask?) if truthful polling were being done
Without a doubt the polls are rigged.
No one comes to her rallies, no one watches her rallies online, no one votes in online polls for her, she has phony press conferences, she has stacked audiences with pre arranged questions, debates are rigged in her favor, the nigger-in-chief is rigging her investigations...this goes on and on. The whole government is completely corrupt.
Cebu_4_2
7th October 2016, 02:28 PM
Monmouth University Poll
West Long Branch, NJ 07764
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______
From:
Nate Sliver
To:
PATRICK MURRAY
[ EYES ONLY ]
Subject: Change the Narrative
Friday, September 16, 2016
Priority Message
Do Not Copy
Secure Email / Slack Only
NET MESSAGE: HILLARY-RESURGENCE
Key Notes:
Birtherism – “Backfiring”
Trump Unfavorables – “Climbing”
Minority Voices – “support Hillary”
Imply Racism (White Vote = Trump) – “Whites rally/cleave/etc. Trump”
Rubio / Murphy: Poll Accurately [ IMMATERIAL ]
SCREENS
AGE
: Attached screens will move 80% of targets into the 30-50 age range. Use included statistical model
to re-skew for publication.
LOCATION:
The location-call screens will favor south Tallahassee, east and north Gainesville, Central
Tampa, north and west Jacksonville, west and south Orlando, and much of Dade / Broward
counties. Space
Coast regions and similar must be carefully screened for demographic.
DEMOGRAPHIC:
This should be obvious. We are looking at a heavy minority foundation with a
college-white salt. Favored are liberal arts degrees and, especially, sociology. See attached call-files.
EMPLOYMENT:
We prefer polling areas of high unemployment for minority response. More are
available to take calls during working hours and far, far fewer of them support Republican candidates.
EMBEDED NARRATIVE
It is imperative to create a morale boosting narrative in the liberal demographics. Our last
published polling note gave liberals a “week before panic.” We must deliver on a turn-around in
polls or risk collapse of enthusiasm. The data from our call / email sieve as well as legitimate
polling indicates a level of despondency equivalent, roughly, to the Michael Dukakis candidacy.
This is due to (a) Trump’s successful presidential-narrative surge and (b) a massive lack of
enthusiasm on the part of minority and millennial voters who are beginning to view Obama as a
failed president and Hillary Clinton as a ‘lying harpy.’ (word association testing focus groups).
In order to rally the male-liberal base we will need to produce “resurgent” Florida polling. The
conventional wisdom is that Florida will be the fulcrum state for the election and if it is seen as
lost to Trump then we will have domino defections throughout the other swing-states. Presently,
our internal analysis shows the Democratic Firewall in extreme jeopardy.
This week the news cycle MUST show Hillary regaining the lead in Florida.
STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, & THREATS
Strengths
Almost none. The voter-registrations in Florida are balanced but we need to have at least D+3 to
have a credible story. We also need to greatly oversample women. This shouldn’t be hard to
manage as they are more likely to answer the phone and chat.
Liberal self-reporters are tanking (around 12% in real numbers). We are going to have it at around
30% which we can probably get away with. Below are the target demographics our screens
should produce with minimal manual intervention.
(Chats here)
Weaknesses
Weaknesses abound. The first is that the birther message is penetrating: 73% of Americans are
willing to say they don’t know where Obama was born. This was previously locked out via media
shaming. Trump is immune so his followers are immune.
The Florida geography is also working against us. Hillary has 53+ Field Offices and they’re
empty of volunteers. This lack of enthusiasm is showing up in the voting responses and it’s killing
us. The “cell phones” rationale will only hold out for so long.
Opportunities
PPP is burned. There have been too many leaks. Monmouth is less well known and less
disparaged by conservatives. This is a good chance for you to build your brand both with naïve
liberals and with some conservative moderates. The general reputation of Monmouth as a party-
school will work against you here but we think that will be easy to gloss over with the chaos of
the messaging.
We also have a chance to build a White People Are Racist narrative. We’ve got some good story
coming out of The Upshot with the headline that “Whites” are keeping Trump alive in Florida. If
we can double down on that in the cross-tabs we can strongly insinuate that Whites (who code as
racists in the media) like Trump (who codes as racist) and get an Ouroboros-Pattern established
for undecideds.
Finally, while we have been forced by intense public scrutiny to accurately report a Trump Surge,
we think there is an opportunity here for demoralization by reporting a “counter surge” or “Trump
Collapse” that will reduce momentum as the Trump narrative has shifted to talking about the
polls.
Threats
People are leaking a lot. If you don’t want Enten’s gang all over you, we suggest you lock it the fuck down.
There are a lot of people poking around the edges that are on to things and a bunch of
stuff out on the Internet that is more hit-than-miss. PPP’s extremely unwise decision not to
disavow the leaks on Twitter has costs us a great deal of credibility and voters are a lot more
educated about cross-tabs and skewing and we may not have as easy a time of it as we did in
2012. Finally, we know you consider Quinnipiac a “rival school.” Put that aside and stand down
your hackers and arson-units. This is a team effort. If we lose this election we’re all fucked.
Ensure loyalty in your staff by whatever means necessary. Keep appearances up. DO NOT
SCREW THIS UP.
TREND-WATCH
You will be required to do actual polling to give us insight into the information-battlespace. We
are seeing some disturbing things in the cross-tabs from our other arms. Please conduct testing to
validate or invalidate the following trends:
TREND-ANALYSIS
If these results hold, we are seeing a complete fracture in the national narrative. Hillary’s messaging has failed and her
intentions are being read as subtext-for-text. Under these conditions it will be impossible to win a general election. The
Liberal base is demoralized—but will become more enthusiastic the more Hillary is seen as an iconoclast who will overturn
the last foundations of Western Culture (as such, links to corruption and even outright crimes are seen as a positive rather than a negative).
On the reverse side, the media has not been able to convince most of America that these allegations are false (the dual-
channels have, unfortunately, merged and the conservative news firewall has broken down). The messaging to liberals is
being consumed by middle America and they, for obvious reasons, do not like it.
If the above responses hold for major swing states more drastic measures will be needed and we will need to begin
preparations sooner rather than later.
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Santa
7th October 2016, 02:59 PM
Hillary has blood on her hands. She wears blood spattered pantsuits. Untold thousands are dead because of her. All she stands for, and all she's done while holding office makes me sick.
She has a proven track record of...well...for lack of a better word... fucking EVIL.
Cebu_4_2
7th October 2016, 04:38 PM
She has a proven track record of...well...for lack of a better word... fucking EVIL.
I think that's something almost everyone here can agree on. Okay so we dont have many hilary supporters, kinda like we dont have many UK members. Why is that?
Joshua01
11th October 2016, 09:52 AM
Bump! (((Who))) controls your mind?
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Who-Controls-Your-Mind.jpg
madfranks
11th October 2016, 09:59 AM
I found this nugget tucked in there:
EMPLOYMENT:
We prefer polling areas of high unemployment for minority response.Now, if anyone, ANYONE, but a democrat said this, it would be textbook racism.
JohnQPublic
28th October 2016, 11:57 PM
Monmouth University wishes to engage us in this discussion and share their side of the story. They clearly do not understand that this is a DISCUSSION forum, and that gold-silver.us is not "publishing" articles, but rather those who choose to join are DISCUSSING what they read elsewhere, think, etc., i.e., this is protected first amendment activity. To be fair, I will allow them to present their findings, and I do so by posting their intimidating email to gold-silver.us below. If they wish to JOIN the forum, they may do so and engage in further DISCUSSION with this forum.
Dear XXXXXXXX:
I serve as Vice President and Legal Counsel to Monmouth University. Your website hosts Gold-Silver.us. I write to you about an article published by Gold-Silver.com which relates to Monmouth. Gold-Silver.com published the following misinformation in an article dated October 7, 2016 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?92750-LEAKED-Monmounth-polling-internal-memo-shows-polls-totally-rigged-for-Hillary&p=859369&viewfull=1):
Leaked: Monmouth polling internal memo shows polls totally rigged for Hillary
This article also contains a content purporting to be an internal memo sent by the Monmouth University Polling Institute, which is a total and complete fabrication. It purports to attribute the most egregious bias to Monmouth in the design of a poll of Florida voters conducted in September 2016. A fraudulent document such as the one you are hosting cuts to the very heart of the Polling Institute’s credibility and, thus, causes severe damage to its main asset—its lack of bias.
As you can imagine, the Monmouth University Polling Institute depends upon its reputation for conducting fair and balanced polls. The lack of bias is essential for a poll to be deemed credible. Indeed, the lack of bias is the lifeblood of any legitimate polling organization. Critically, personnel at the University have now received threatening and other inappropriate messages and other communications from persons responding to or citing to this fabrication, and local law enforcement have been brought in. This statement is false and defamatory of the Monmouth University Polling Institute. The University has published factual information directly addressing the work of the Polling Institute, which you can find at: https://twitter.com/MonmouthPoll/status/778680423752667138.
The Washington Post has also run an article debunking the assertions made in this false document on your site. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/21/fake-polling-memo-prompts-the-question-how-much-are-partisans-willing-to-believe/.
I must therefore insist that you immediately CEASE and DESIST from any ongoing publication of this false and defamatory statements and take all steps necessary to take this information off of your website. The University takes its rights seriously and will vigorously enforce its right to prevent the dissemination of false defamatory information.
Sincerely,
John J. Christopher, Esq.
Vice President and General Counsel
Phone: (732) 571-3598 Fax: (732) 263-5140
E-mail: jochrist@monmouth.edu (jochrist@monmouth.edu)
https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=2%5f0%5f0%5f1%5f1%5fAHEaDUwABebPWBIaE AyiYEEbPtU&m=YaDownload&pid=1.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=yahoomail
JohnQPublic
29th October 2016, 12:30 AM
The memo may indeed be fake. So, I went to Manmouth University's Twitter statement (Twitter being the gold standard on factual information), to read about their evidence that it is fake. And that evidence is: they said so. So, there you go.
https://twitter.com/MonmouthPoll/sta...80423752667138 (https://twitter.com/MonmouthPoll/status/778680423752667138)
"For the record, the purported Monmouth Univ poll memo being circulated is a photoshopped fake - and not a very good one at that."
JohnQPublic
29th October 2016, 12:33 AM
There linked Washington Post poll at least attempted a few arguments (I guess having the ability to post more than 140 characters allows a bit of leeway). Still, not convincing. Again, the memo may be fake. LET's DISCUSS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ng-to-believe/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/21/fake-polling-memo-prompts-the-question-how-much-are-partisans-willing-to-believe/).
Joshua01
29th October 2016, 08:02 AM
I must therefore insist that you immediately CEASE and DESIST from any ongoing publication of this false and defamatory statements and take all steps necessary to take this information off of your website. The University takes its rights seriously and will vigorously enforce its right to prevent the dissemination of false defamatory information.
Well, I must therefore insist that the First Amendment is alive and well on GSUS and all your whining and crying is duly noted.I don't believe any of this material originated from GSUS. You would be better served going after the people who actually published the material. It's now in the public domain and fair game to discuss as the First Amendment guarantees.
Have a great day and be careful out there Monmouth!
Spectrism
29th October 2016, 10:08 AM
I would kindly ask them to swear under oath that the "leaked" article is false and we would be glad to put that on our discussion forum as the antidote for any perceived injustices.... assuming they also provide substantial credentials that they are in authority and have sure and demonstrated knowledge of such a falsehood being propagated. As a discussion forum, we are glad to entertain proven facts, allegations, news reports, rumors, etc.
singular_me
29th October 2016, 11:01 AM
NOT SUPPORTING ANY OF THEM BUT FACTS ARE FACTS
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crimethink
29th October 2016, 02:05 PM
NOT SUPPORTING ANY OF THEM BUT FACTS ARE FACTS
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You forgot Clinton's voter base:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thetiethatbindsour/van_cem/park_lawn_cemetery/ParkLawnCemeteryView.JPG
Glass
29th October 2016, 04:53 PM
seems like a poorly written impersonation to me. no depth of methodology and uses bias language. Perhaps it was written and then retracted? I'd expect to get further correspondence until it's discussion is removed.
Cebu_4_2
29th October 2016, 04:56 PM
seems like a poorly written impersonation to me. no depth of methodology and uses bias language. Perhaps it was written and then retracted? I'd expect to get further correspondence until it's discussion is removed.
She just failed. Her daughter will be implicated also taking the cliton empire down. To down, just watch. Think Trump is into bullshit? He don't need that kind of shit.
Glass
29th October 2016, 05:34 PM
She just failed. Her daughter will be implicated also taking the cliton empire down. To down, just watch. Think Trump is into bullshit? He don't need that kind of shit.
I spent a couple hours chatting with people on line yesterday. There were a lot more people openly saying they were going to support Trump. In the past it has been slight majority in favour of Hillary because we just can't have him. I don't think the Hillary people have gone away so much as they are just not saying anything any more. I think a lot of fence sitters have decided now. It was definitely noticeable change in the overall attitude of the group now as compared to a couple months ago.
Cebu_4_2
29th October 2016, 06:01 PM
I spent a couple hours chatting with people on line yesterday. There were a lot more people openly saying they were going to support Trump. In the past it has been slight majority in favour of Hillary because we just can't have him. I don't think the Hillary people have gone away so much as they are just not saying anything any more. I think a lot of fence sitters have decided now. It was definitely noticeable change in the overall attitude of the group now as compared to a couple months ago.
Liquid death vs solid fight.
cheka.
29th October 2016, 06:03 PM
yeah....let's not talk about the rigging. let's focus on the memo's veracity
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wow-monmouth-refigures-poll-trump-comes-lead-hillary-clinton/
Monmouth Refigures Poll After Trump Comes Out With Lead Over Hillary Clinton
Jim Hoft Aug 22nd, 2016 6:27 pm
WOW! These people are sooo corrupt!
Monmouth University released a poll today that had Donald Trump defeating Hillary Clinton.
Trump was up 41-39 so they weighted the poll with more Democrats to give Hillary the lead.
WOW!
The original unweighted poll had 33 Republicans to 35 Democrats – with Trump leading.
The revised poll had 29 Republicans to 37 Democrats… And, Wallah! Hillary has the lead.
WOW! Monmouth Refigures Poll After Trump Comes Out With Lead Over Hillary Clinton
Jim Hoft Aug 22nd, 2016 6:27 pm 265 Comments
WOW! These people are sooo corrupt!
Monmouth University released a poll today that had Donald Trump defeating Hillary Clinton.
Trump was up 41-39 so they weighted the poll with more Democrats to give Hillary the lead.
WOW!
The original unweighted poll had 33 Republicans to 35 Democrats – with Trump leading.
The revised poll had 29 Republicans to 37 Democrats… And, Wallah! Hillary has the lead.
trump thumbs
Conservative Treehouse reported:
Today, Monmouth via Patrick Murray presents a presidential poll of Ohio voters. The actual raw data (pdf available here – see pg, 6 and 7) showed Donald Trump with a lead in the result; however, Murray changed the data through weighting to show Hillary Clinton with a lead.
“GOUSAAMER114” pointed out the manipulation:
Monmouth just announced that Clinton leads Trump 43-39 in Ohio. But Pollster Patrick actually laid out what he did on pages 6 and 7 of the PDF.
He sampled 402 voters. In the unweighted sample, the split was 33.3R/29.3D/35.6I. With that split, Trump leads Clinton 41-39 in Ohio. But Pollster Patrick re-weighted it to a 29R/33D/37I split. Nothing else was re-weighted.
It’s obvious Murray didn’t expect to be called out on it – because when confronted with what he did, pollster Patrick Murray flat out lied.
@MonmouthPoll @PollsterPatrick In your actual poll, Patrick, Trump led 41-39. But you re-weighted solely by Party ID. PDF pg 6, 7. You dawg!
— GOUSAAmer114 (@GOUSAAmer114) August 22, 2016
JohnQPublic
29th October 2016, 06:09 PM
yeah....let's not talk about the rigging. let's focus on the memo's veracity
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wow-monmouth-refigures-poll-trump-comes-lead-hillary-clinton/
Monmouth Refigures Poll After Trump Comes Out With Lead Over Hillary Clinton
Jim Hoft Aug 22nd, 2016 6:27 pm
WOW! These people are sooo corrupt!
Monmouth University released a poll today that had Donald Trump defeating Hillary Clinton.
Trump was up 41-39 so they weighted the poll with more Democrats to give Hillary the lead.
WOW!
The original unweighted poll had 33 Republicans to 35 Democrats – with Trump leading.
The revised poll had 29 Republicans to 37 Democrats… And, Wallah! Hillary has the lead.
WOW! Monmouth Refigures Poll After Trump Comes Out With Lead Over Hillary Clinton
Jim Hoft Aug 22nd, 2016 6:27 pm 265 Comments
WOW! These people are sooo corrupt!
Monmouth University released a poll today that had Donald Trump defeating Hillary Clinton.
Trump was up 41-39 so they weighted the poll with more Democrats to give Hillary the lead.
WOW!
The original unweighted poll had 33 Republicans to 35 Democrats – with Trump leading.
The revised poll had 29 Republicans to 37 Democrats… And, Wallah! Hillary has the lead.
trump thumbs
Conservative Treehouse reported:
Today, Monmouth via Patrick Murray presents a presidential poll of Ohio voters. The actual raw data (pdf available here – see pg, 6 and 7) showed Donald Trump with a lead in the result; however, Murray changed the data through weighting to show Hillary Clinton with a lead.
“GOUSAAMER114” pointed out the manipulation:
Monmouth just announced that Clinton leads Trump 43-39 in Ohio. But Pollster Patrick actually laid out what he did on pages 6 and 7 of the PDF.
He sampled 402 voters. In the unweighted sample, the split was 33.3R/29.3D/35.6I. With that split, Trump leads Clinton 41-39 in Ohio. But Pollster Patrick re-weighted it to a 29R/33D/37I split. Nothing else was re-weighted.
It’s obvious Murray didn’t expect to be called out on it – because when confronted with what he did, pollster Patrick Murray flat out lied.
@MonmouthPoll @PollsterPatrick In your actual poll, Patrick, Trump led 41-39. But you re-weighted solely by Party ID. PDF pg 6, 7. You dawg!
— GOUSAAmer114 (@GOUSAAmer114) August 22, 2016
Interesting. Maybe when they come on to apologize, they will also explain the statistical rational for doing that. Maybe to match US distribution of party members? Seems dangerous in such a small poll. Also, I do not this k the independent distribution is in any way representative (seems very high- larger than either Republican or Democratic. Was this adjusted?).
Horn
29th October 2016, 06:31 PM
They ain't gonna apologize,
if its fraudulent or copyright infringement you should be notified by some 3rd party to remove any such referenced content from the site.
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29th October 2016, 06:52 PM
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