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JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 11:45 AM
Ask yourself: why is there virtually no discussion here about Darrell Castle?

Don't know much about him. His platform looks real good. But, he is NOT going to get elected, and this is one of those elections that matter. Clinton CANNOT be allowed into the White House. If she gets there, we might end up in a revolution, then all these niceties like platforms really do not matter. If all of a sudden he gets known, who knows, maybe I could support him.

Joshua01
9th October 2016, 11:46 AM
Ask yourself: why is there virtually no discussion here about Darrell Castle?

Because no one except you have ever heard of this guy? He simply hasn't got the fanbase to defeat the Clit. Besides, how do you know he's not fucking the maid after hours?

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 11:51 AM
This kind of sums it up:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuVEBaPXYAU9kc1.jpg:large

Joshua01
9th October 2016, 11:53 AM
Like it or not CT:


http://i66.tinypic.com/1sjcwp.jpg

singular_me
9th October 2016, 11:54 AM
freedom and leadership are incompatible because leadership requires a cult of order followers

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 12:00 PM
freedom and leadership are incompatible because leadership requires a cult of order followers

That is an extremist view. Leadership requires someone that can make decisions others can abide by and that others feel is in their and possibly most people's interests.

Jewboo
9th October 2016, 12:00 PM
Clinton CANNOT be allowed into the White House.



https://66.media.tumblr.com/af12e9e596ee2cb03d2d4cdbd982042b/tumblr_nokg7gOkPp1qb6v6ro2_500.jpg

According to Crimethink it will be ungentlemanly and unChristian to vote for Trump.

:)

osoab
9th October 2016, 12:01 PM
I think he married Melania in Jan 2005. I think this recording is from 2005. I am a little surprised Melania supported him.

The recording was from 2005 but he had to be discussing this in 2004 at the latest. She still had to be married to her 1st husband. Trump could have been engaged.

osoab
9th October 2016, 12:02 PM
Ask yourself: why is there virtually no discussion here about Darrell Castle?

You might be the 1st one to bring him up.

What no links or anything? One heck of supporter there.

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 12:05 PM
According to Crimethink it will be ungentlemanly and unChristian to vote for Trump.

:)

It is not unfair to make that argument. I do not abide by it though. We have no choice but to live in this world, and the worst thing for Christians (in my view) would be to let Clinton into the White House.

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 12:15 PM
Apprentice Producer Warns There Are "Far Worse" Trump Tapes To Come (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-09/apprentice-producer-warns-there-are-far-worse-trump-tapes-come)
Bill Pruitt @billpruitt (https://twitter.com/billpruitt)

As a producer on seasons 1 & 2 of #theapprentice (https://twitter.com/hashtag/theapprentice?src=hash) I assure you: when it comes to the #trumptapes (https://twitter.com/hashtag/trumptapes?src=hash) there are far worse.#justthebegininng (https://twitter.com/hashtag/justthebegininng?src=hash)
2:44 PM - 8 Oct 2016 (https://twitter.com/billpruitt/status/784872190587998209) · McAllen, TX, United States (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A6d032cd232fb02d5)



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Cebu_4_2
9th October 2016, 12:37 PM
Apprentice Producer Warns There Are "Far Worse" Trump Tapes To Come (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-09/apprentice-producer-warns-there-are-far-worse-trump-tapes-come)


Bill Pruitt @billpruitt (https://twitter.com/billpruitt)

As a producer on seasons 1 & 2 of #theapprentice (https://twitter.com/hashtag/theapprentice?src=hash) I assure you: when it comes to the #trumptapes (https://twitter.com/hashtag/trumptapes?src=hash) there are far worse.#justthebegininng (https://twitter.com/hashtag/justthebegininng?src=hash)
2:44 PM - 8 Oct 2016 (https://twitter.com/billpruitt/status/784872190587998209) · McAllen, TX, United States (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A6d032cd232fb02d5)



(https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=784872190587998209)

26,74526,745 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=784872190587998209)

30,33130,331 likes (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=784872190587998209)




Everything prior to this latest tape has bounced and worked in Trumps favor. Not sure how this will play out, think he's saving something for a better time.

vacuum
9th October 2016, 01:16 PM
the worst thing for Christians (in my view) would be to let Clinton into the White House

It would actually be kind of funny if Christians, and Christians alone, were responsible for Hillary becoming president.

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 01:19 PM
It would actually be kind of funny if Christians, and Christians alone, were responsible for Hillary becoming president.

It would in fact be sad. Unfortunately it is possible.

Ares
9th October 2016, 01:34 PM
I didn't install this regime we have, and I'm not the one who chooses the "lesser of two evils" to sustain it.

No, and neither did anyone living today (well other than maybe Rockefeller). But the want and desire to lead society in direction they "feel" it should be is what causes governments to acquire said power with no way to justify their jurisdiction for it. You want an all powerful government to force your "moral utopia" then don't get bent out of shape when the nominee's are nothing more than sociopaths.


The nuclear family is the foundation of government. But you hate government. Not because all government is evil, but because government sometimes requires standards that get in the way of your libertine goals.

No it isn't. Government is a TOOL. The nuclear family however is the foundation of civilization. Governments come and go, civilization is what can and should stand the test of time. You keep confusing the two for whatever reason. I hate government, it's often corrupt, uneasy to control and most often results in Democide.



Organized government is merely one level of establishing and maintaining peace. If government supports morality, then it is good. If it opposes morality, then it is bad.

Even when reportedly supporting morality it is still bad. How else do you think that dress wearing faggot was able to get the FBI into existence in the 1930s? Corruption. Yes I know the FBI originated in 1908, but it had jurisdiction limitations before 1935.



Since murderers murder and rapists rape, we should repeal statutes against murder and rape. :rolleyes:

Or stop pretending that having them on paper is somehow going to result in moral behavior. :rolleyes:




No, you don't.

Yes I do, stick around long enough and quit pussying out and taking a year long vacation to get a better understanding of where I stand on individual liberty.



Adultery was punished under the Founders, but here, you argue like the Cultural Bolshevist you are that "we cannot legislate morality" and insist we give whoremonger Trump a pass.
Where did I say what Trump said was excusable? Stop putting words in my mouth. Adultery should be punished and not rewarded during a divorce. Death is a bit much, but getting half of a spouses assets after committing said adultery is a bit much as well when in reality they should get nothing and possible loss of parental rights.



Let's get rid of laws against them, they don't work!

They don't, especially when you've given the government the sole authority on prosecuting them and yet get surprised when they refuse to prosecute. Good thing it's on the books right? :rolleyes:



Yet you look the other way when corrosive behaviors damage families and society. Actually, yes, you do wrong your neighbor, by refusing to hold others accountable. "Not your place?" Yes, it is. We are our brother's keeper.

No more than you wrong your neighbor by forcing them at the barrel of a gun to abide by your idea of morality. The irony is you don't understand that forcing someone at the barrel of a gun to follow what you believe to be moral forces them to view you as well as the state as an immoral entity. Yet you still expect them to follow your lead eh? Good luck with that. :rolleyes:


Yes, just like the Founders did.

Why don't you check out the penalties for adultery and fornication the Founders supported, and get back to us? Then tell us again how "unreasonable" I am.

The real kicker is you think the founders government actually prosecuted said crimes. It was up to the people to convene a grand jury with evidence for the grand jury to determine if a crime had been committed. If the Grand jury determined that a crime had been committed, then and only then could it have gone to trial and up to a jury to decide the adulterers fate. Get this, the accuser actually represented him or herself while the plaintiff represented him or herself. I know totally foreign to a statist cuck like you, but that is our history. The founders were not stupid enough to put the sole law enforcement ability in the hands of the government. That's why you do not see the government having any such law enforcement power in the Constitution, even though you and they PRETEND that they do. The legislative body put laws in place, and it was up to the people to police themselves.


Form of government is not the problem. Who runs the government is the problem. When Jews and Cultural Bolshevists - "anything goes" types - run it, the country degenerates.

Spoken like a true statist. "The form of government is not the problem". :rolleyes: sure....... whatever you say.. :rolleyes: The form as well as who run it is a HUGE problem.



The idiot savant thinks he is "smart."

Yeah you do think of yourself as an "educated man", but I have yet to see any of it.


Did you know that adultery was once a hanging offense? Under the Founders who you idolize.

Yes I did, and if you bother to read history outside of the (((Jewish))) boogie man you'll see that the founders personal feelings rarely resulted in actually any being punished because of how the system was initially set up.


I merely demand that our "leaders" be held accountable, with the punishment of being driven away from office.

Good luck getting the government to police itself. :rolleyes:

Just like the government would recognize your citizens grand jury to hold them accountable right? :rolleyes:

Once you give the behemoth the power to do as it pleases to enact your form of morality, don't get butthurt when it no longer holds itself accountable to you or anyone else.



When people like you argue against morality, yeah, that certainly won't work. When your "anything goes" mindset is the norm, no, it sure won't work.

I argue against government or legislated morality. As I have said repeatedly yet you completely fucking ignore for whatever reasons. Morality starts at the local level. It never has and NEVER FUCKING WILL begin with government.





The government isn't going away, no matter how much you wish for it.

Yet you want to remove all moral influences from it. No pressure on it to promote morality as opposed to immorality.

That's the agenda of the Cultural Bolshevists. And it's been so for a century.

How long have you been an ACLU member?

Yep I know it's not going anywhere, too many fools keep justifying it's existence thinking they know how to keep it in check when throughout history have been unable to do so. Good luck statist cuck. :rolleyes:

How long have you sucked the Jewish state that you love so much? Good luck getting a Jew to push your version of morality. LOL

crimethink
9th October 2016, 02:02 PM
Supporting Trump is not a lesser of two evils choice.


Of course it is! You're lying to yourself to say otherwise.



we CANNOT LET CLINTON become president under any circumstance.


OK. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8B00f4PSs

I supported him on that comment, and we all know exactly what he meant.




If I chose to use absolute criteria, I would never vote, period.

Who would Jesus vote for?

crimethink
9th October 2016, 02:03 PM
Clinton CANNOT be allowed into the White House. If she gets there, we might end up in a revolution

Then revolution it is. I cannot and will not support evil...including the lesser thereof.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 02:05 PM
This kind of sums it up:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuVEBaPXYAU9kc1.jpg:large

Trump has demonstrated he is willing to do anything to "succeed." His moral compass is "success." He hasn't been in a position of governmental power; she has. If he wins, let's check in again in a year or two.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 02:06 PM
That is an extremist view. Leadership requires someone that can make decisions others can abide by and that others feel is in their and possibly most people's interests.

Trump has already compromised on the Second Amendment.

Trump is a rabid supporter of "Israel."

Trump will take America to war when his bankster allies maneuver him there.

PatColo
9th October 2016, 02:07 PM
CNN, feigning righteous indignation, is trying to whip up hysteria over DT's not withdrawing from the race over the comments, oh what a bad man! lolz :D

In last night's ren roundtable they were joking about how esp men should adopt the expression "you know what really grabs my pussy? (Answer: something annoying)"; or, "You know, that really grabs my pussy!!"

http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/renegade-roundtable-kyle-hosts-10-8-16/

crimethink
9th October 2016, 02:07 PM
According to Crimethink it will be...unChristian to vote for Trump.


That is correct.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 02:09 PM
It would actually be kind of funny if Christians, and Christians alone, were responsible for Hillary becoming president.

Everyone who votes gives their consent to the System. Everyone who votes is responsible for whomever is selected.

madfranks
9th October 2016, 02:30 PM
This, this is what we get when the entire political environment follows along with the feminization of our culture. No longer is monetary policy, national defense, manufacturing, taxes, infrastructure, etc. of national importance. Now it's a man who said mean things and hurt someone's feelings that makes for the topic of greatest importance. Our forefathers would rightfully be ashamed of us. And for sure, the rest of the world is laughing in deep contempt, now understanding that all it takes to upset the national base of the modern USA is to call someone a mean name.

madfranks
9th October 2016, 02:31 PM
Everyone who votes gives their consent to the System. Everyone who votes is responsible for whomever is selected.

I still believe this as well. Complying and participating equals consent.

osoab
9th October 2016, 02:32 PM
That is correct.

Thanks.

I guess I will vote for trump. :)

crimethink
9th October 2016, 02:47 PM
Thanks.

I guess I will vote for trump. :)

Of course you will. Good Goy.

osoab
9th October 2016, 02:55 PM
Of course you will. Good Goy.

I had only decided to vote on tax referendums until your wonderful anti-endorsement was posted.

Jewboo
9th October 2016, 03:18 PM
I still believe this as well. Complying and participating equals consent.

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1465/50/1465505718418.gif

:rolleyes:

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1471/02/1471028115203.jpg

midnight rambler
9th October 2016, 03:30 PM
Of course you will. Good Goy.

You know what I find so fucking funny and deliciously ironic is that Fred is on a crusade about Trump being bad and 'unChristian' yet Fred puts his faith in someone who is a moral relativist with serious ethics issues. lol

Many thanks for the yuks Fred! Every time I think about this post of yours I literally break out in laughter.




Closer to reality:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh2lT0J19DM

midnight rambler
9th October 2016, 03:32 PM
Everyone who votes gives their consent to the System. Everyone who votes is responsible for whomever is selected.

Just like everyone who lines up for National Sheep Shearing Day annually to burn that pinch of incense for Caesar, like you Fred.

midnight rambler
9th October 2016, 03:35 PM
Trump was coming on to a married woman and that was disrespectful to her, her husband and their marriage. The proper response for her husband would be to beat the living shit out of Trump and warn him to never do it again. That's the proper response for a man with testosterone running through his bloodstream.

The problem very well could have been that Nancy was married to a beta.

midnight rambler
9th October 2016, 03:47 PM
It is not unfair to make that argument. I do not abide by it though. We have no choice but to live in this world, and the worst thing for Christians (in my view) would be to let Clinton into the White House.

Precisely. The 'Christian' thing to do is to do everything in one's power to prevent all Hell breaking loose should that witch to become POTUS.

Neuro
9th October 2016, 04:01 PM
Precisely. The 'Christian' thing to do is to do everything in one's power to prevent all Hell breaking loose should that witch to become POTUS.

So you'll vote Trump? Or will you vote be to not give consent to be governed no matter which candidate win?

midnight rambler
9th October 2016, 04:07 PM
So you'll vote Trump? Or will you vote be to not give consent to be governed no matter which candidate win?

In order for one to become a 'registered voter' one must swear under the pains and penalties of perjury one is a 'US citizen'. Haven't done that since '88.

What's far more important than one's single, solitary vote is swaying 'public opinion' and several years ago I hit a homer in that respect. Learned some lessons there.

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 04:14 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by JohnQPublic http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?p=859950#post859950)
Supporting Trump is not a lesser of two evils choice.





Of course it is! You're lying to yourself to say otherwise.

Ok. Corrected: Supporting Trump is not just a lesser of two evils choice. :)

In a sense you are correct. Still, I am not framing it that way. My point is more along the lines of #NeverHillary. As I said elsewhere, all my life voting there has not been an electable candidate that I felt I could actually support, so in that sense there is an element of lesser of two evils in any vote cast for a mainstream candidate.


Who would Jesus vote for?

Jesus may say that he is not beholden to Caeser, and thus would not vote. You can take that same view also, but will have to live under Clinton.

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 04:15 PM
So you'll vote Trump? Or will you vote be to not give consent to be governed no matter which candidate win?

The nation will continue to be governed, and I still choose to live in this nation, so it is in my interest to help guide the nation in the right direction.

Neuro
9th October 2016, 04:17 PM
In order for one to become a 'registered voter' one must swear under the pains and penalties of perjury one is a 'US citizen'. Haven't done that since '88.

What's far more important than one's single, solitary vote is swaying 'public opinion' and several years ago I hit a homer in that respect. Learned some lessons there.

You "hit a homer", what does that mean?

So you swore you were a US citizen in 1988, does that mean you still are one, or did you swear it erroneously back then, under perjury? How could one get out of something one has sworn one is?

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 04:18 PM
Everyone who votes gives their consent to the System. Everyone who votes is responsible for whomever is selected.

I disagree. My vote is often strategic. I feel no remorse for that. In the Soviet Union there was one name on the ticket, much like there is in North Korea today. If you vote you are responsible for the winner, but if you do not vote, you are responsible for it because you did not vote.

midnight rambler
9th October 2016, 04:19 PM
You "hit a homer", what does that mean?

So you swore you were a US citizen in 1988, does that mean you still are one, or did you swear it erroneously back then, under perjury? How could one get out of something one has sworn one is?

I came to realize I had been hornswoggled. Fraud is fraud ab initio.

For you foreigners, hitting a homer means hitting a home run. Got tens of millions of people to move in one direction, if only momentarily.

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 04:23 PM
Then revolution it is. I cannot and will not support evil...including the lesser thereof.

Personally, I feel Trump could be the first small step to a bloodless revolution of sorts. I prefer that route if it is possible. If Trump does not deliver then we may still get a revolution (in fact it may be more likely under that scenario then if Killary wins). I he does, then he will have succeeded in breaking into a rigged system, and initiating the fissure that can give patriots an opportunity to rebuild the country. Fortunately, the collapse is far from complete, and I think we have the ability to reverse the rot if we start soon.

Neuro
9th October 2016, 04:25 PM
I came to realize I had been hornswoggled. Fraud is fraud ab initio.

For you foreigners, hitting a homer means hitting a home run. Got tens of millions of people to move in one direction, if only momentarily.

I figured it meant that most likely, what I was most interested in was how you specifically moved public opinion?

Shami-Amourae
9th October 2016, 04:41 PM
They can always release the tape of Trump saying "Nigger" if it looks like he'll win.

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 04:44 PM
They can always release the tape of Trump saying "Nigger" if it looks like he'll win.

I'm sure they will (if they have such). Maybe they're saving it for the third presidential debate.

Donald needs to act like a successful businessman/negotiator tonight and turn his liabilities into an asset, and I guarantee you it is possible. The ONLY reason he has these liabilities is that Killary has bigger ones. Get it?

vacuum
9th October 2016, 04:46 PM
We have to use the rational part of our brains, not the emotional part.

Thats why skype always wins and facebook always loses. Skype thinks in terms of numbers, ideologies, and cause and effect. Whereas us facebooks are emotional and act like idiots. Look at what all that emotional compassion is doing to europe right now. Then we get angry like a bull at some point, and skype just points us in a direction that ends up hurting us even more.

We will have to stop being emotional at some point. Either by choice or by a large percentage of us dying off. Which do you prefer?

JohnQPublic
9th October 2016, 04:49 PM
I sent a variation of this message to Trump on Twitter about 10 times. As a businessman/negotiator, he will understand (if he sees the message). Do the same:

You need to turn your liabilities into assets. Only reason you have them is Hillary's are much bigger. Got that?

Neuro
9th October 2016, 04:49 PM
We have to use the rational part of our brains, not the emotional part.

Thats why skype always wins and facebook always loses. Skype thinks in terms of numbers, ideologies, and cause and effect. Whereas us facebooks are emotional and act like idiots. Look at what all that emotional compassion is doing to europe right now. Then we get angry like a bull at some point, and skype just points us in a direction that ends up hurting us even more.

We will have to stop being emotional at some point. Either by choice or by a large percentage of us dying off. Which do you prefer?

Stoopid doesn't have a choice!

Shami-Amourae
9th October 2016, 04:49 PM
I'm sure they will (if they have such). Maybe they're saving it for the third presidential debate.

Donald needs to act like a successful businessman/negotiator tonight and turn his liabilities into an asset, and I guarantee you it is possible. The ONLY reason he has these liabilities is that Killary has bigger ones. Get it?

Hillary already called Arabs "Sand Nigger" and no one cares.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18539

https://s21.postimg.org/skyf15b8n/Cu_SY0_Hq_UEAAhk_SZ_jpg_large.jpg

Spectrism
9th October 2016, 05:14 PM
Everyone who votes gives their consent to the System. Everyone who votes is responsible for whomever is selected.


I have news for you! You give your consent when you use the federal reserve note, pay taxes, and observe the laws of the land. You give your consent when you do not operate a one-man revolution shooting key political devils who are unlawfully enslaving many people.

Spectrism
9th October 2016, 05:17 PM
Grow a set, will ya? Jezzzus!


A set of what, horns?

Cebu_4_2
9th October 2016, 06:15 PM
A set of what, horns?


Lol

Joshua01
9th October 2016, 06:20 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuN7W-wWgAAApvA.jpg

osoab
9th October 2016, 06:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gQiRmlnTiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gQiRmlnTiA

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:17 PM
I had only decided to vote on tax referendums until your wonderful anti-endorsement was posted.

You don't have to answer to me. You have to answer to God.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:21 PM
yet Fred puts his faith in someone who is a moral relativist with serious ethics issues.

I'm sorry your intellect is impaired to the point you can't discern that posting a video of a speech is not the equivalent of an unqualified endorsement of the speakers' character.

Tumbleweed
9th October 2016, 07:34 PM
The problem very well could have been that Nancy was married to a beta.

That's not the issue. What is the issue is a guy without morals, no respect for a married woman, her husband or their marriage trying to get her to have sex with him.
Trump is showing his true character and he appears to me to be just like the filthy, sleazy Jews that surround him now, always have and always will.

midnight rambler
9th October 2016, 07:36 PM
That's not the issue. What is the issue is a guy without morals, no respect for a married woman, her husband or their marriage trying to get her to have sex with him.
Trump is showing his true character and he appears to me to be just like the filthy, sleazy Jews that surround him now, always have and always will.

NEWSFLASH: women have minds of their own, and they are subject to doing ANYTHING at ANYTIME - refer to video explaining hot/crazy matrix

ETA: as was posted earlier, Nancy O'Dell supposedly had an affair with Michael Bolton in 2003 while still married.

Tumbleweed
9th October 2016, 07:38 PM
NEWSFLASH: women have minds of their own, and they are subject to doing ANYTHING at ANYTIME - refer to video explaining hot/crazy matrix

This ain't about the woman it's about Trump.

midnight rambler
9th October 2016, 07:40 PM
This ain't about the woman it's about Trump.

It takes two to tango. Note edit to previous post.

Ares
9th October 2016, 07:43 PM
This ain't about the woman it's about Trump.

It takes two, unless you're Bill Clinton and can get away with rape while your wife silences them. :-D

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:46 PM
My point is more along the lines of #NeverHillary. As I said elsewhere, all my life voting there has not been an electable candidate that I felt I could actually support, so in that sense there is an element of lesser of two evils in any vote cast for a mainstream candidate.


The "mainstream" candidates are, by definition, evil, since the "mainstream" is purely a product of the satanic System.




Jesus may say that he is not beholden to Caeser, and thus would not vote. You can take that same view also, but will have to live under Clinton.

We will live under the System that America's collective morality deserves. God "bless" America? Why?

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:47 PM
The nation will continue to be governed, and I still choose to live in this nation, so it is in my interest to help guide the nation in the right direction.

Not the "right" direction, but rather, how fast our country is flown into the ground. Full-throttle or a less-frightening half-throttle.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:49 PM
if you do not vote, you are responsible for it because you did not vote.

Nope. If you are given a fraudulent "choice" of evil vs. "lesser" evil, and told you "must" choose, you have a moral imperative of a third, real choice: no, I refuse.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:50 PM
Personally, I feel Trump could be the first small step to a bloodless revolution of sorts. I prefer that route if it is possible. If Trump does not deliver then we may still get a revolution (in fact it may be more likely under that scenario then if Killary wins). I he does, then he will have succeeded in breaking into a rigged system, and initiating the fissure that can give patriots an opportunity to rebuild the country. Fortunately, the collapse is far from complete, and I think we have the ability to reverse the rot if we start soon.

I understand your position, and respect your logic, but I don't have the faith in Trump to agree with it.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:53 PM
We have to use the rational part of our brains, not the emotional part.

Thats why skype always wins and facebook always loses. Skype thinks in terms of numbers, ideologies, and cause and effect. Whereas us facebooks are emotional and act like idiots. Look at what all that emotional compassion is doing to europe right now. Then we get angry like a bull at some point, and skype just points us in a direction that ends up hurting us even more.

We will have to stop being emotional at some point. Either by choice or by a large percentage of us dying off. Which do you prefer?

I have made a rational decision to refuse to participate. If I governed my decisions by emotion, I would rabidly support Donald J. Trump. Trump is purely based on hope.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:54 PM
I have news for you! You give your consent when you use the federal reserve note, pay taxes, and observe the laws of the land. You give your consent when you do not operate a one-man revolution shooting key political devils who are unlawfully enslaving many people.

We take it you are giving your consent to the System every minute of every day?

Tumbleweed
9th October 2016, 07:55 PM
It takes two to tango. Note edit to previous post.

Trump pretends he's a nice guy and has respect for those that work for him or around him. He showed no respect for that womans husband so he's a liar and shows his lack of morals. I've been around for quite a few years now and I've seen some guys like Trump have life changing experiences after doing what he did. One of them I heard about recently is pushing up daisies in a grave yard now.

Joshua01
9th October 2016, 07:58 PM
I understand your position, and respect your logic, but I don't have the faith in Trump to agree with it.

Was that hard????????

crimethink
9th October 2016, 07:58 PM
I'm going to make something clear:

If Her Majesty Hillary Clinton were installed into the White House, I would definitely want to see her "take a ride through Dealey Plaza" as soon as she could.

If Trump were installed into the White House, I would simply deal with it, and do not wish him ill, despite his immorality.

I have no illusions that she is far, far more evil than Trump. But that doesn't make Trump saintly.

Ares
9th October 2016, 08:01 PM
I'm going to make something clear:

If Her Majesty Hillary Clinton were installed into the White House, I would definitely want to see her "take a ride through Dealey Plaza" as soon as she could.

If Trump were installed into the White House, I would simply deal with it, and do not wish him ill, despite his immorality.

I have no illusions that she is far, far more evil than Trump. But that doesn't make Trump saintly.

That sums it up for a lot of people here. I included.

crimethink
9th October 2016, 08:01 PM
Was that hard????????

Those who support Trump and those who don't support Trump but still love real America are differentiated by this: Hope. Faith in Trump. I don't have it. I can't.

Joshua01
10th October 2016, 12:33 PM
Those who support Trump and those who don't support Trump but still love real America are differentiated by this: Hope. Faith in Trump. I don't have it. I can't.

No one here (certainly not me) has said Trump is a saint. Who is?? You said it better than I could have and that's my stance as well:

I'm going to make something clear:

If Her Majesty Hillary Clinton were installed into the White House, I would definitely want to see her "take a ride through Dealey Plaza" as soon as she could.

If Trump were installed into the White House, I would simply deal with it, and do not wish him ill, despite his immorality.

I have no illusions that she is far, far more evil than Trump. But that doesn't make Trump saintly.

-crimethink

You're angry, I'm angry....we're ALL angry. The only way to have any hope of getting the country back is to stop Clinton and take a (huge) chance on a political outsider. Like him or not, loath him or love him, Trump IS the last best hope for crushing the progressives, backed by Dark money, and start tearing down the black protectionists, remove the weight of federal regulations from businesses so they can freakin hire people, and make our country strong again.

Sure, if Trump is lying and he gets in we're fucked. Alternatively, we already KNOW Hillary will lie about everything and anything and if she gets in we're fucked. That is beyond dispute among any objective thinkers.

JohnQPublic
10th October 2016, 12:38 PM
Those who support Trump and those who don't support Trump but still love real America are differentiated by this: Hope. Faith in Trump. I don't have it. I can't.

What do you have to lose? :)

osoab
10th October 2016, 04:13 PM
Those who support Trump and those who don't support Trump but still love real America are differentiated by this: Hope. Faith in Trump. I don't have it. I can't.

It's more about a big middle finger to Hillary and the gang.

osoab
10th October 2016, 04:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=3NcPmrljQ3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=3NcPmrljQ3c


https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2016/Oct/9/LiveLeak-dot-com-69e_1476036630-index_1476036579.jpeg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039 332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd0904c47d2d37e f9&ec_rate=230



Looks like Trump is at it again.
Liveleak vid. No embed. :(
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e76_1476034700

EE_
10th October 2016, 04:56 PM
No one here (certainly not me) has said Trump is a saint. Who is?? You said it better than I could have and that's my stance as well:

I'm going to make something clear:

If Her Majesty Hillary Clinton were installed into the White House, I would definitely want to see her "take a ride through Dealey Plaza" as soon as she could.

If Trump were installed into the White House, I would simply deal with it, and do not wish him ill, despite his immorality.

I have no illusions that she is far, far more evil than Trump. But that doesn't make Trump saintly.

-crimethink

You're angry, I'm angry....we're ALL angry. The only way to have any hope of getting the country back is to stop Clinton and take a (huge) chance on a political outsider. Like him or not, loath him or love him, Trump IS the last best hope for crushing the progressives, backed by Dark money, and start tearing down the black protectionists, remove the weight of federal regulations from businesses so they can freakin hire people, and make our country strong again.

Sure, if Trump is lying and he gets in we're fucked. Alternatively, we already KNOW Hillary will lie about everything and anything and if she gets in we're fucked. That is beyond dispute among any objective thinkers.

Even if Trump turned out to be a bad president, he'd still be 100% better then the Clinton cartel.

mamboni
10th October 2016, 05:58 PM
I recall watching a documentary about George Washington. In brief, the father of our country had a legendary sailor's tongue. He could out curse any man. Fact is, you might wonder what type of language would motivate men to fight the most powerful empire in the world, all while freezing in the wilderness, often with rags for boots, and basic armaments, and sometimes starving. Washington never gave up on them. Year after year, battle after battle, mostly defeats, Washington forged onward to Yorktown.

By all accounts, Washington would have made The Donald blush with his flair for obsenities. But for me, he is without doubt the bravest, most honest, most humble yet noble American who ever lived. So in a way, Trump is in very good company.

Spectrism
10th October 2016, 06:34 PM
I recall watching a documentary about George Washington. In brief, the father of our country had a legendary sailor's tongue. He could out curse any man. Fact is, you might wonder what type of language would motivate men to fight the most powerful empire in the world, all while freezing in the wilderness, often with rags for boots, and basic armaments, and sometimes starving. Washington never gave up on them. Year after year, battle after battle, mostly defeats, Washington forged onward to Yorktown.

By all accounts, Washington would have made The Donald blush with his flair for obsenities. But for me, he is without doubt the bravest, most honest, most humble yet noble American who ever lived. So in a way, Trump is in very good company.

Brave- yes. Humble.... not yet.... but he is getting there. But that is not his job. His job is to be a large stone. He will force people to go left or right around him. Those that seek to go through him will be broken. You will see Hillary broken, just like the pussies that tried to fight him and still do. They will be smashed like glass thrown against granite.

Trump is being used to judge Amerika. The people of this fallen nation judge themselves at the point of decision. Trump is not the savior, but he is a tool to break the evil ones. The foolish things of this world bring down the mighty. Trump is foolish. It is his lure and trap to destroy those who would seek to hoist themselves above him. Trump is not the messiah but he is a type of messiah. A leader who will blaze through an impossible path, he will take the people only so far. Moses did this. Noah did this.

Some see Trump as a Cyrus. What I see is a world on a collision course with destruction. We are near the end. Choices are not so genteel or preferential anymore. Now they are basic survival.

crimethink
10th October 2016, 09:42 PM
What do you have to lose? :)

I know most people think of it as "just a vote," just a mark on a piece of paper - or even a click on a computer screen. But me, it's my good name, my integrity, to cast a vote for someone. I've made voting mistakes in many years past. I'm done doing that.

osoab
14th October 2016, 08:47 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CusJ0VWWYAAnWUS.jpg

Joshua01
14th October 2016, 09:18 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CusJ0VWWYAAnWUS.jpg

She's an idiot!

Joshua01
14th October 2016, 09:48 AM
http://goldismoney2.com/attachments/obamapussy-jpg.85568/

osoab
14th October 2016, 09:53 AM
She's an idiot!

If she was 20 years younger, you would be volunteering.

Joshua01
14th October 2016, 09:57 AM
If she was 20 years younger, you would be volunteering.

But she's not. She's about 100 cheeseburgers beyond that