The USDA Organic Label Cannot Be Rescued

[singular_me]

again, people who thought they were safe because could afford "organic produces" are in for a shock... don't care about mass poisoning, well too bad... you/we are next. That is how it just works for everything because everything is interconnected. The Law of Correspondence is inescapable.

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The USDA's Synthetic Oversight of Organic Food
As an ongoing lawsuit makes clear, the regulations are a joke. How do we fix them?
October 22, 2016

Last month, a federal judge in California refused to dismiss a lawsuit challenging U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) actions pertaining to its statutory oversight of organic food.

The case, filed last year by more than a dozen groups, challenges changes to the procedures under which the agency determines whether certain synthetic substances may continue to be used in food the agency permits to be labeled as organic.

Under the Organic Foods Production Act of 1990, which gave the USDA authority over organic-food labeling, the agency maintains a list of synthetic substances that may be used in organic products. Decisions about any substance on the list had been forced to sunset after five years unless two-thirds of the agency's National Organic Standards Board (NOSB) recommended a given substance remain on the list.

........... But the USDA changed the rules in 2013, delegating much of the decisionmaking power over synthetic substances to a NOSB subcommittee. Since that time, the plaintiffs in the lawsuit argue that this USDA inaction "has allowed more than 20 synthetic substances to continue being used in organic agriculture."

The lawsuit, which alleges "the USDA promulgated the regulation without providing the public the opportunity for notice and comment and acted in an arbitrary and capricious manner[,]" is just the latest in a string of litigation and controversy surrounding the agency's oversight of organic-food labeling.


http://reason.com/archives/2016/10/22/the-usdas-synthetic-oversight-of-organic


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[Cebu_4_2]

I think Trump will have a look at this. This is a global overreach and from what I read he isn't real pleased with this kind of stuff.

[cheka.]

consider it ALL stepped on

unless you grow/catch/kill your own food....you have to rely on the seller's word. seller has profit motive to lie to you. 90 plus percent of people in the US will lie if a monetary benefit will be realized.

trust the company/guy that is selling food for profit? fools.

[Dogman]

consider it ALL stepped on

unless you grow/catch/kill your own food....you have to rely on the seller's word. seller has profit motive to lie to you. 90 plus percent of people in the US will lie if a monetary benefit will be realized.

trust the company/guy that is selling food for profit? fools.

Has it been anyway else ?

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[Glass]

I bought a good size jar of curcumin powder from the health food shop. Looked ideal. Hard organic on the label etc. When I got it home and unwrapped it from it's shrink wrap I found a huge USDA Approved Organic sticker label on the lid. That sticker had been obscured by the shrink wrapper so I didn't see it.

It remains unopened in the cupboard for about 2 years now. I haven't found another local source of "organic" curcumin powder yet but I keep an eye out.

edit: actually that story might not be 100% right. I might have seen the label and bought it anyway then had second thoughts. I'm not sure now.

[Dogman]

I bought a good size jar of curcumin powder from the health food shop. Looked ideal. Hard organic on the label etc. When I got it home and unwrapped it from it's shrink wrap I found a huge USDA Approved Organic sticker label on the lid. That sticker had been obscured by the shrink wrapper so I didn't see it.

It remains unopened in the cupboard for about 2 years now. I haven't found another local source of "organic" curcumin powder yet but I keep an eye out.

edit: actually that story might not be 100% right. I might have seen the label and bought it anyway then had second thoughts. I'm not sure now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curcumin

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[cheka.]

Has it been anyway else ?

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yes.

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[Dogman]

yes.

sent from my pos puter

Here is an upgrade then !

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;D

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[cheka.]

[QUOTE=Dogman;863553]Here is an upgrade then !

http://s7.computerhistory.org/is/image/CHM/xb93.80p-03-01?$re-medium$

;D

your link no work, but...

i have one of these as a collectible. some cool programs, accessories, etc..

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[Glass]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curcumin

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ah ok, so it's a jar of tumeric. It's yellow. thats for sure. We had some discussion on it here before, benefits of tumeric.

[singular_me]

actually thats a good argument for a money-free society...end result for speculating on life



trust the company/guy that is selling food for profit? fools.

[Glass]

This is the one I bought.
https://d13a3sktrrck1g.cloudfront.net/fhd/images/product/m/bio-grape-certifided-organic-bio-curcumin-95-bio-active-turmeric-extra-l7h.jpg
Called: Organic Bio Curcumin. That sicker on the lid says USDA ORGANIC. You can see the same, stamped on the front lower left.

[Cebu_4_2]

This is the one I bought.
Called: Organic Bio Curcumin. That sicker on the lid says USDA ORGANIC. You can see the same, stamped on the front lower left.

The USDA organic means they paid a lot of money to use that USDA stamp on their label. It could infact be organic.

[singular_me]

unless you grow/catch/kill your own food... sorry at some point everything will be so poisoned, that it will be impossible. Individualism and darwinism are deceptions.

human's excrement already is recycling pollution in full circle and monsanto GMOs contaminating everything. Clock is ticking fast and faster.


what people must realize is that non-enforced and decentralized cooperative actions are beneficial to all. The Whole is One, and otherwise. I


(not responding cheka, but thinking out loud)

[singular_me]

proof that regulations are bunk
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Contaminated food from China now entering the U.S. under the 'organic' label

Sunday, October 30, 2016 by: J. D. Heyes

(NaturalNews) The Chinese food production industry is one of the world's least-regulated and most corrupt, as has repeatedly been proven time and again. Now, it appears, there is no trusting anything that comes from China marked "organic."

Natural Health 365 reports that several foods within the country are so contaminated that Chinese citizens don't trust them. What's more, the countries that import these tainted foods are putting their citizens at risk.

U.S. Customs personnel often turn away food shipments from China because they contain unsavory additives and drug residues, are mislabeled, or are just generally filthy. Some Chinese food exporters have responded by labeling their products "organic," though they are far from it.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/055818_tainted_food_organic_label_China.html#ixzz4 OgtkFmsS

[singular_me]

race against time

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America is about to realize just how poisoned conventional food really is ... Lab testing for glyphosate about to go 'viral'

12 November 2016
Good news! Anresco Laboratories in San Francisco just launched their own unique detection system for final food products that reveals even low levels of glyphosate residue, and they're testing soil samples from all around the world! Want food transparency? You got it.
http://sustainablepulse.com/2016/11/01/san-francisco-lab-launches-new-era-of-glyphosate-testing-in-food/#.WCiRoLOpq1u
more
http://www.naturalnews.com/055968_weed_killer_Roundup_glyphosate_testing.html


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Thousands of 'organic' beauty products found to contain banned chemicals
12 November 2016 GMT
As your body’s biggest organ, your skin is covered with thousands of pores, all of which should be thought of as entry points to your body. When you consider the fact that your skin is like a sponge that absorbs everything you put on it, you will quickly realize that being cognizant of everything you put on your skin is every bit as important as paying attention to the ingredients in the food that you eat.’


The Information Age means that people are more aware of ingredients in food and other products than ever before. In his recent book Food Forensics, Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, tested everything from groceries and fast food to nutritional supplements and protein powders. His findings, which included a number of hidden toxins and heavy metals, were disturbing to many people, and a similar examination of beauty products carried out by the Environmental Working Group (EWG) is equally unsettling.

According to the EWG, more than 5,000 beauty products boast an "organic" label or use the term in their name, but many actually contain hidden or risky ingredients. Under their Skin Deep database scoring system that assigns grades from 1 (best) to 10 (worst) in terms of ingredient safety, more than 250 so-called "organic" products were given a poor score of 5 or higher.


http://www.naturalnews.com/055972_beauty_products_organic_labels_chemical_ing redients.html

[singular_me]

BOTTOM LINE: get your garden ready

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‘Could it be true? Could you and your family be paying top dollar for imported foods that aren’t the least bit organic?

According to a report by the Alliance for Natural Health U.S. we have a situation where we are importing food from countries like Turkey and our agencies aren’t inspecting organic claims properly.

The report says:

Organic corn exports from Turkey to the US have exploded. Compared to the same six-month time period in 2015, the dollar value of organic corn imports from Turkey during the first six months of 2016 increased by 500%. Organic soy imports from Turkey in the same period increased by an astounding 3600%.

Unfortunately, there’s a very good chance that these millions of bushels of corn and soy aren’t actually organic at all, and federal regulators—unlike their counterparts in other countries—do not seem concerned in the least.’............

Writer Brandon Turbeville, author of Codex Alimentarius and 7 Real Conspiracies offered this commentary on the situation in an interview:

People seem confused as to why the USDA would allow products that don’t actually fit the organic standards on to the market because they believe that the USDA has the health of the consumer at heart. But remember that the USDA has a history of approving materials and products that are actually dangerous to human health.

The USDA essentially has a revolving door with Big Ag. There are two reasons, beyond basic corruption, I would suggest is behind the USDA looking the other way in the face of tainted organic goods. First, allowing foreign produced organic goods into the market serves to push American farmers out of the organic business due to low production costs and the lack of appropriate import controls, namely tariffs. Once again, we see the benefits of Free Trade in that the cheap products coming from overseas push out the American producer and force them to rely on Big Ag. And the imports are cheap for the same reason most other imports are cheap – because of low production standards and cheap labor.

Second, by allowing tainted “organic” products on the market, consumers are unknowingly consuming food that is of lower quality and thus are comparing the results of what they believe to be an improved diet against their standard diet. Even if the stuff coming from Turkey is probably still better than Big Ag GMO food produced in the States but it still muddies the waters. By this I mean that, if people who are eating what they believe to be organic food are not seeing any improvements in their health as compared to the people eating conventional Big Ag produced food, then the results will be presented as their being no difference between conventional and organic agriculture....

http://www.naturalblaze.com/2017/02/are-fake-organic-foods-flooding-the-u-s.html

[Dachsie]

Just totally forgiddabout that whole certified organic label game. The only way you can have reasonable assurance of safety and efficacy of anything you intend to ingest is to grow your own or truly know your supplier, and even that is dicey these days when we are being heavily chem trailed every day and our neighbors are putting all kinds of chemicals into the soil and water table.


http://turmericpillreviews.com/

find the best price somewhere on the brand of curcumin, the active ingredient in turmeric, that is rated high in that study. Swansons, Walmart is where I buy Jarrow 500 mg curcumin and is rated fairly high.

You have to consume huge amounts of powdered turmeric in your food to equal 500 mg pill of curcumin. Also I don't like taste of large amounts of any of those Indian herbs and powders but do like good curry and smaller amounts, but thats not enough to get medicinal benefits.

Can grow your own turmeric. Just be careful to get your initial root stock from a trusted person who grows their own turmeric in truly no chemicals way. This is where networking in local community with people you personally know plays in. There is much to learn about growing healthy herbs and plants and processing the roots after harvesting. That is why I say just find the lowest price best brand of the concentrated real stuff first and now and maybe at same time get your growing your own turmeric thing going.

I have tried to grow maringa and tree collards and it does not at all work out as simply and nicely as advertised. Even the most organic clean looking youtube homesteaders and such make everything look very easy and often do not give the real ifs, ands and buts.

I say just go at first as an experiment and do it containers and find all the tricks you need for your situation to get the growing going well.

My maringa and tree collards did beautifully as long as I had them on the inside kitchen window box with good southern exposure sun. When I gradually moved them to outside, all went to hell. They just have to stay growing in a green house. Don't know if that it is the way it will play out with turmeric but don't be surprised if it does. Marketing ploys are used by some of our most trusted and admired youtubers.

[singular_me]

very most likely why they are deteriorating the organic label.... exodus from conventional food growing

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Organic items appear in 82% of American households
March 27, 2017 -

WASHINGTON — A Nielsen survey revealed organic items were found on the shelves of kitchen cupboards and in the refrigerators of 82.3% of American households in 2016, the Washington-based Organic Trade Association said March 23. The national average climbed 3.4% from 2015 to 2016.

North Dakota had the highest jump, increasing 14.2% from 2015 to 2016 to reach 85.6% of households. Following North Dakota in the ranking of biggest increases were Rhode Island, up 12.3% to 88.3%; Wyoming, up 10.8% to 90%; South Dakota, up 10% to 68.9%; and Wisconsin, up 9.1% to 77.6%.

The nationally representative Nielsen study involved 100,000 households in 48 states and did not include Alaska or Hawaii.

http://www.foodbusinessnews.net/articles/news_home/Consumer_Trends/2017/03/Organic_items_appear_in_82_of.aspx?ID=%7BBB10FBAA-9AC2-459E-9C0B-7A319896DE04%7D&cck=1

[Dachsie]

Dr. Bharat B. Aggarwal, PhD

has been on Joyce Riley Power Hour GCNlive.com show many times, one date below. Can search her archives or maybe get on her email list or contact them and see if they can give you dates so you can get free archived shows to listen to. He is interesting and is most qualified to say all that can be said about curcumin etc. but he has to watch the words he says very carefully to keep his professional position. Also he is NOT an M.D. so cannot give medical advice of any kind.



He is THE expert of turmuric and curcumin. He does research with M.D. Anderson cancer hospital in Houston, TX. and does get help for cancer patients with certain Indian herbs and spices.



From what I have learned so far, just get your hands on highest quality best brand good record company you can of curcumin capsules. I take one every day as part of the 6 memory pills I take every day.

Cooking with curry powder as they do in India is supposedly beneficial too. I wonder if people in India have lower cancer rates. Not sure.

I say do not read up too much on this. Just buy some of the pills and get going on it as best you can. Don't get hung up on that organic label thing. There are still some good companies making quality products and you cannnot grow and dry and process your own curry and curcumin. Just no way.

I DO NOT see any specific benefits from taking curcumin, but my memory pill 6-pill pack I take every day is definitely helping my memory. I still forget things and lose things but I see definite improvement.

Here is what I take and I get it from either Swanson Vitamins or Walmart mail order. High quality brand.

Jarrow Formulas, Inc. Curcumin 95
Caps 120 500 mg Caps
Item # JR187
1 $18.76 $18.76



But Katheryn Albrecht takes lots more of those curcumin pills every day and I believe she is still doing OK and still doing her GCNlive show though I have not heard anything about her in a long time. She had brain surgeries for cancer. She alluded to the fact that she thinks her cancer was caused by years of being a vegetarian and eating a whole lot of soy foods which contain plant estrogens which hypes up female homones made her more susceptible to getting cancer. Now soy is said to be bad because it is GMO and sprayed with RoundUp too I think.

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Turmeric root extract health benefit, side effects, supplement dosage, and medical uses -

 What is the right dosage? Ray Sahelian, M.D. Does it play a role as an anti-inflammatory substance? How about its role in cancer prevention and Alzheimer's disease? July 19 2014

Turmeric is a plant (Curcuma longa), native to South India and Indonesia that has many health benefits. The root been used from antiquity as a condiment in Asian cooking such as curries, as a textile dye, and medically as an aromatic stimulant. It is a common ingredient in Indian food, such as curry powder, and yellow mustard.

An extract from turmeric root called curcumin has become quite popular with articles in major magazines and newspapers due to its various health benefits. Pure turmeric powder has a curcumin concentration of 3 percent by weight, however there are other beneficial substances in the powder. Extracts with a higher concentration of curcumin are available. There are estimates that people in India consume about 2 grams of turmeric a day which provides roughly 100 mg of curcumin. Some scientists think that the regular ingestion of this spice is partly to be credited for the reduced rate of Alzheimer's disease in India.

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  May benefit children against leukemia. Curcumin inhibits the multiplication of leukemia cells in laboratory studies and seems to protect against damage caused by cigarette smoke and eating certain processed foods. Alzheimer's disease Scientists found that curcumin was able to reduce deposits of beta-amyloid proteins in the brains of elderly lab mice that ate it as part of their diets. Furthermore, when the researchers added low doses of curcumin to human beta-amyloid proteins in a test tube, the compound kept the proteins from aggregating and blocked the formation of the amyloid fibers that make up Alzheimer's plaques.

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I began taking 1 gram of tumeric curcumin several years ago for possible Alzheimer's™ prevention. Both my father and & father-in-law have it. Recently, I came across several articles about the anti-inflammatory properties being tested for arthritis as well, and decided to increase my dose to 2 gms per day. I had been experiencing arthritic pain in my thumb and hip for over a year, and was concerned about the NSAIDs I was taking at increasing doses and frequency as well as the very limited relief I was getting. I was already taking 1500mg glucosamine 1200mg / chondroitin / MSM daily. After a week or two at the 2 gm dose, my arthritis pain is virtually gone and I haven't taken any other NSAIDs.

Cancer, helping reduce tumors or prevention Increase in plasma concentrations of geranylgeranoic Acid after turmeric tablet intake by healthy volunteers. J Clin Biochem Nutrition. 2010.

. Geranylgeranoic acid (GGA) is one of the most potent cancer-preventive acyclic retinoids. GGA has been shown to induce cell death in human hepatoma-derived HuH-7 cells. We have recently reported the natural occurrence of GGA and its related compounds in several medicinal herbs such as turmeric, basil, rosehip, cinnamon and others. In the present study, we performed oral administration of turmeric tablets to healthy volunteers in order to investigate bioavailability of natural GGA. With healthy volunteers, plasma GGA was detected prior to the tablet intake and its concentrations were increased at 2 h after its intake and maintained at higher level until 4 h, suggesting an efficient bioavailability of preformed GGA in the turmeric tablets through oral administration. These results indicated that GGA in the turmeric tablet was absorbed as an intact form from intestinal mucosa.

Bharat Aggarwal of the Department of Experimental Therapeutics at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, says. "What's exciting about this agent is that it seems to have both chemopreventive and therapeutic properties.

Bharat Aggarwal injected mice with human breast cancer cells -- a batch of cells grown from a patient whose cancer had spread to the lungs. The resulting tumors were allowed to grow, and then surgically removed, to simulate a mastectomy. Then the mice either got no additional treatment; curcumin alone; the cancer drug paclitaxel, which is sold under the brand name Taxol; or curcumin plus Taxol. Half the mice in the curcumin -only group and 22 percent of those in the curcumin plus Taxol group had evidence of breast cancer that had spread to the lungs. But 75 percent of animals that got Taxol alone and 95 percent of those that got no treatment developed lung tumors. Earlier studies suggest that people who eat diets rich in turmeric have lower rates of breast cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer and colon cancer.

His team would like to try giving turmeric to women with a high risk of breast cancer -- such as those who have a mother or sister with the disease.

No drug company is likely to develop a natural product that cannot be patented, he said. "There are no companies behind it so our only source of funding is either the National Institutes of Health or the Department of Defense," he said. This study was funded by the U.S. Department of Defense's Breast Cancer Research Program.

Skin cancer Curcumin interferes with melanoma cells.
Tests in laboratory dishes show that it made melanoma skin cancer cells more likely to self-destruct in a process known as apoptosis.

The same research team has found that turmeric helped stop the spread of breast cancer tumor cells to the lungs of mice. The turmeric suppressed two proteins that tumor cells use to keep themselves immortal. People who eat plenty of turmeric have lower rates of some cancers. Heart health, cardiovascular system Protective effects of Curcuma longa on ischemia-reperfusion induced myocardial injuries and their mechanisms. Life Sci. 2004.

 Wistar rats were divided into three groups and received saline orally (sham, control I/R group) and Turmeric 100 mg/kg respectively for one month. On the 31st day, rats of the control I/R and turmeric treated groups were subjected to 45 min of occlusion of the LAD coronary artery and were thereafter reperfused for 1 h. I/R resulted in significant cardiac necrosis, depression in left ventricular function, decline in antioxidant status and elevation in lipid perodixation in the control I/R group as compared to sham control. Myocardial infarction produced after I/R was significantly reduced in the turmeric treated group.

Cardio-protective effect of turmeric likely results from the suppression of oxidative stress and correlates with the improved ventricular function.

 I read about its abilities to help in cases such as arthritis. I have arthritis or I wouldn't™ be asking the most vital question which is, is turmeric safe enough for a heart transplant patient to take?

  I am not sure. It may depend on the types of medications a person is on. I have not seen studies regarding its use in cases of heart transplant patients. Irritable bowel syndrome IBS Turmeric extract may improve irritable bowel syndrome symptomology in otherwise healthy adults:
a pilot study. J Altern Complement Med. 2004. Five hundred volunteers were screened for IBS using the Rome II criteria. Two hundred and seven suitable volunteers were randomized. One or two tablets of a standardized turmeric extract taken daily for 8 weeks. Approximately two thirds of all subjects reported an improvement in symptoms after treatment, and there was a favorable shift in self-reported bowel pattern.

Kidney disease J Nephrol. Jan 31 2014.
Effects of turmeric on uremic pruritus in end stage renal disease patients: a double-blind randomized clinical trial. Uremic pruritus as a symptom that affects hemodialysis (HD) patients can decrease the quality of life and increase morbidity in these patients. The aim of this study was to evaluate the effects of turmeric on uremic pruritus in HD patients. This was a double-blind placebo-controlled trial conducted on 100 HD patients suffering from pruritus.

Patients (mean age 53.3 ± 15.8 years) were randomized into two groups: turmeric and placebo.
The pruritus score and biochemical determinants including high-sensitivity C-reactive protein (hs-CRP) were compared before and at the end of the study between the two groups. The mean decrease in hs-CRP was significantly higher in the turmeric than the placebo group. Also reduction of pruritus scores was greater in the turmeric than the placebo group. No side effect was observed during the study due to the use of turmeric. This study demonstrates the possible efficacy of turmeric in decreasing hs-CRP and uremic pruritus in end stage renal disease patients. Future studies are needed to further evaluate the efficacy and safety of turmeric.

Lupus Oral Supplementation of Turmeric Decreases Proteinuria, Hematuria, and Systolic Blood Pressure in Patients Suffering from Relapsing or Refractory Lupus Nephritis:
A Randomized and Placebo-controlled Study. J Renal Nutr. 2011. Multiple myeloma Turmeric extract may be of benefit in multiple myeloma, a blood cancer, early lab research shows--suggesting yet another health benefit from this long-heralded substance. Adding curcumin to human cells with the blood cancer multiple myeloma, Dr. Bharat B. Aggarwal of the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston and his colleagues found, stopped the cells from replicating. And the cells that were left died.

Rheumatoid arthritis Efficacy and mechanism of action of turmeric supplements in the treatment of experimental arthritis. Arthritis Rheum. 2006.
A curcuminoid containing turmeric extract was administered intraperitoneally to female Lewis rats prior to or after the onset of streptococcal cell wall-induced arthritis. In vivo treatment prevented local activation of NF-kappaB and the subsequent expression of NF-kappaB-regulated genes mediating joint inflammation and destruction, including chemokines, cyclooxygenase 2, and RANKL. Consistent with these findings, inflammatory cell influx, joint levels of prostaglandin E(2), and periarticular osteoclast formation were inhibited by treatment.
Turmeric extracts containing curcuminoids prevent experimental rheumatoid arthritis. J Nat Prod. 2006.

Turmeric side effects, adverse events, caution Various cultures, particularly people living in India, have used turmeric powder for centuries or millennia. Turmeric supplements have been available much less time as medicinal drugs in Western countries. No major turmeric side effects have been reported in the medical literature. Taking too many turmeric capsules may increase body temperature. For long term use, one to three turmeric capsules a day should not present any major problems. Some people may be taking several turmeric curcumin capsules a day for the treatment of a particular medical condition as advised by their health care provider. Side effects of high dose turmeric curcumin use of several months or years is not clear. We also don't know what kind of turmeric side effects would occur when high doses of this herb is combined with prescription medications. There is a possibility that high dose turmeric ingestion leads to high oxalic acid in the urine leading to kidney stones.

Effect of cinnamon and turmeric on urinary oxalate excretion, plasma lipids, and plasma glucose in healthy subjects American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 2008.
Eleven healthy subjects participated in an 8-week, randomly assigned, crossover study that involved the ingestion of supplemental doses of cinnamon and turmeric for 4-wk periods that provided 55 mg oxalate/d. Oxalate load tests, which entailed the ingestion of a 63-mg dose of oxalate from the test spices, were performed after each 4-wk experimental period and at the study onset with water only (control treatment). Compared with the cinnamon and control treatments, turmeric ingestion led to a significantly higher urinary oxalate excretion during the oxalate load tests. There were no significant changes in fasting plasma glucose or lipids in conjunction with the 4-wk periods of either cinnamon or turmeric supplementation. The percentage of oxalate that was water soluble differed markedly between cinnamon (6%) and turmeric (91%), which appeared to be the primary cause of the greater urinary oxalate excretion/oxalate absorption from turmeric. The consumption of supplemental doses of turmeric, but not cinnamon, can significantly increase urinary oxalate levels, thereby increasing risk of kidney stone formation in susceptible individuals.

I take it in a powder form mixed with water when I get boils. My mom has started taking the capsule form and swears by it. I read the study done on correlation with kidney stones:
œThe consumption of supplemental doses of turmeric, but not cinnamon, can significantly increase urinary oxalate levels, thereby increasing risk of kidney stone formation in susceptible individuals.

I heard recently how calcium can help prevent the formation of stones. I wonder if I could mix the turmeric powder with milk when I take it and have less chance of kidney stones

“ I think they might run in my family. Alas, that brings us back to the traditional method of consumption of curries“ mixed with yogurt!
We westerners have so much catching up (or rather back tracking) to do. Thank you for the information you provide.

   It is difficult to predict the effect of this supplement if combined with milk. I am not aware of any actual human studies with turmeric pills that led to the occurrence of kidney stones. I think if people drink enough water there should be no problems, except perhaps in those who are very susceptible to stone formation. I will await results of studies on this topic.

History Turmeric is botanically known as Curcuma longa, derived from the old Arabic name for the kurkum. In some areas of the Far East, the fresh root is used and stored much like ginger. This Asian spice that makes French's mustard and Hindu priests' robes yellow is a promising potential weapon against several cancers, Alzheimer's, cystic fibrosis, psoriasis and other diseases.

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Q. Does taking tumeric affect warfarin, 5 mg./day that I take. In other words: Will the INR be affected by using the usual dose of turmeric.
  A. This is a good question. We have not seen any studies regarding the interaction of turmeric or curcumin and warfarin so it is difficult for us to predict. If you are planning to use turmeric along with Coumadin, then under medical supervision you could try one turmeric capsule a day and test your inr to see if there is an effect.

My mother in law used turmeric supplement for a few weeks and now has itching. She has melanoma.
  This is the first we have heard of this possible relationship between turmeric and itching. The best option is to stop the turmeric for a couple of weeks and under medical guidance to reintroduce it in small amounts to see if the turmeric was the cause or whether it was something else coincidentally causing the itching, perhaps other supplements she is taking or medicines, or a medical condition.

In general terms, do the anti-inflammatory benefits of turmeric act as NSAIDs do in terms of compounding hypertensive issues?
I understand that NSAIDs affect hypertensive people by rendering their anti-hypertensives ineffective.
Does Turmeric either act in this manner, or contribute to elevated blood pressures in the non-medicated person? If those people with variety of arthritis problems plus hypertension could take Turmeric, it would be such a blessing. This is one issue that I do not see discussed in my turmeric research, and would be very helpful if published.
  We have not come across any meaningful research regarding the role of turmeric in blood pressure.

Can a person with Hepatitis B or Hepatitis C take a turmeric supplement?
  Probably, if their doctor approves. But I don't know how it interacts with liver cells in those with hepatitis.

Could you please tell me if 'ground turmeric spice will work just as well as the capsules? I have been mixing it and ginger and drinking it, for quite some time (yuck, but I'll do anything to help the IBS & prevent cancer, as it is raging in my family.
   Ground turmeric is very beneficial and would be similar to the that ingested as a capsule. However, the curcumin / turmeric product by Physician Formulas has a 95% turmeric extract for curcumin which provides a high amount of this beneficial substance. Ground turmeric used as a condiment usually has 5 percent or so of curcuminoids. However, if a high amount of ground turmeric spice is used, it could be just as good as taking a curcumin / turmeric capsule.

I am a 70 year old male and have had psoriasis for over 40 years. It has progresses to approximately 20 percent coverage. I began having minor arthritis symptoms in my shoulder and hands about 3 years ago. I began taking 2 grams of turmeric in capsule following one 10mg of Bioperine 3 times per day 5 months ago. My arthritis is practically non existent. I was taking 800 mg of Ibuprofen each morning to alleviate the pain. I take none now! My psoriasis has improved probably 70 percent with practically no scaling, a great reduction in redness and almost no itching. ( I sometimes catch myself itching out of habit alone since I clawed myself daily for years). There is continued noticeable improvement. I take no medications. I am blessed that I have never been hospitalized. I wish the benefits of turmeric could be trumpeted to all.
Of course, we know that the many medical studies that could prove the benefits of turmeric will never be done because there is no way for the huge money hungry drug companies to benefit from a non patented cure or at least greatly beneficial product. You are authorized to use my experience in any manner you see fit in order to make others aware of Turmeric. I applaud your internet postings as to the known and possible benefits of turmeric.

Does the curcumin capsules you provide contain more curcuminoids than the turmeric you purchase from stores? How many tsp's (or another unit of measure) do the capsules equal compared to turmeric powder? Is it higher quality or it it the same? If it is higher quality, before i order, i still need to know how many capsules would equal how much turmeric to get my dosing correct.
   This supplement has 250 mg of turmeric extract and 250 mg of turmeric powder. The turmeric extract is 95% curcuminoids, therefore, 95% of the 250 mg turmeric extract is curcumin, which is about 238 mg. Turmeric powder itself is only 5% curcumin. Therefore 5% of 250 mg of the turmeric is curcuminoids, which makes it about 12 mg. in total, this curcumin-turmeric supplement has a total of 500 mg of which about 250 mg is pure curcumin. We provide the highest curcumin quality we can find.

Read your stuff on curcumin. Do you know if turmeric is equally effective, and if so what dosage is correct (for general cancer and brain protective functions)?
I live in Cambodia where turmeric is easy enough to find, but I doubt if anyone has ever heard of curcumin extract capsules or the like. (And there is no mail delivery.)
   Turmeric contains small amounts of curcumin and other substances. Most curcumin supplements have a very high extract of turmeric. Even though the turmeric extract curcumin is much more potent that turmeric alone, turmeric itself has health benefits. The appropriate dosage to prevent or treat various health conditions is not clear. Practically speaking one should use turmeric to the extent that it makes their food palatable. It is also possible to perhaps mix some in juice and ingest it that way.

Is it alright to take turmeric with Lipitor or a statin drug if so how much I can get the spice powder not sure of tablets.
   Although small amounts of this spice should be safe with Lipitor, Zocor or any statin drug, it is not easy to give blanket statements since each person is different in their response and reaction.

Given that many herbs such as tumeric have been used in large doses for thousands of years by millions in India, isn't that a better safety criteria than a six month clinical drug trial by some pharmaceutical company who has a vested interest in the outcome?
   Yes, the historical use of an herb needs to be seriously taken into account as part of a holistic understanding of the benefits and harm.

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first big crack into the field of conventional farming??

"for the love of money" eventually all laws are meant to be broken ;D

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Farmers are now forced to hack into their own tractors to bypass draconian manufacturer controls
3 April 2017 GMT Activism, Corporate Crime

‘American farmers reluctantly find themselves resorting to the black market because of a legally binding licensing agreement imposed by John Deere and other similarly situated manufacturers.

Given this restriction, which John Deere apparently crafted to circumvent an agricultural vehicle exemption in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, many heartland farmers believe that they have no alternative but to download jailbreaked or bootlegged software or firmware for their John Deere tractors. The farmers purchase the software from Eastern European hackers operating in clandestine online forums.

Self-hacking comes into play because the contract requires farmers to use often distant John Deere tractor dealerships or authorized repair shops for any and all repairs, rather than an independent mechanic that may be just down the street and whose services are less expensive.’
http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-04-02-farmers-are-now-forced-to-hack-into-their-own-tractors-to-bypass-draconian-controls.html

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www.naturalnews.com/2017-04-02-farmers-are-now-forced-to-hack-into-their-own-tractors-to-bypass-draconian-controls.htm

The original, legitimate source:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware

Another example of why I not only condone but encourage "intellectual property piracy." AARRRGH!!!

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no idea, concept is 100% original and that is why I am anti copyright, patents, etc. I have myself written columns inspired by other articles. As long as the sources are mentioned, there is nothing wrong. The knowledge exists embedded in the fabric of the universe


but here we go



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGC27ZZGJI
Massive ORGANIC FRAUD, science fraud and label fraud across the food industry
TheHealthRanger

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no idea, concept is 100% original and that is why I am anti copyright, patents, etc. I have myself written columns inspired by other articles. As long as the sources are mentioned, there is nothing wrong. The knowledge exists embedded in the fabric of the universe


but here we go



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGC27ZZGJI
Massive ORGANIC FRAUD, science fraud and label fraud across the food industry
TheHealthRanger
15 minutes long

Dude could have spit out the info in 2 minutes instead of an infomercial 12 minutes long. This is why many of the earthen folks choose to decide to skip this bullshit. He could have info but then again he might be all full of shit promoting his bs.

Why bother. Scour through the BS and make up your own mind.

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not all his vids are like that... but yes in this one the infomercial is kinda long but he also explains the frauds taking place in labs while talking about his, so it is a smart infomercial

but one can stop the video as soon as it starts @ 3 mins