Muhammad Was A Feminist

[Shami-Amourae]

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95241750
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-garrison/muhammad-was-a-feminist_b_12638112.html

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[Shami-Amourae]

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[Twisted Titan]

Great find shami


And those quotes from Buhkari are Sahih.
Sahih means that they are "sound"

when Muslims are confronted with gross inconsistencies of their prophet or Islam in general they fall back on the line
well you are quoting a weak hadith"

So the Muslim is placed in a horrible dilemma
If the hadith is true then the article is lying
if the article is true then the hadith is lying

Thank God I dont have to try and do mental gymnastics to explain away such gaping holes trying to keep my faith.

[Norweger]

Some muslims unfortunately act like the hadiths have higher authority than the Quran even though they are written by people who lived several hundred years after the prophet Mohammed (pbuh).

Regarding this whole feminism issue, you have to consider that the pre-islamic society in the arabian peninsula treated women in a very strange manner. Some burried their daughers alive, prostitution was rampant, men sold their wives to noblemen etc. Women slept around with many men and if she got pregnant she could just choose whoever of the men she had slept with to be the father..

Women does however have a more rebellious nature than men if you consider the fact that they are the ones that break up relationships the most often by far... so i have no problems in believing that there are more women than men in hell. Just look at the current state of the west.. how much of this degeneration is not as a result of so called feminism? Another thing to take into account is that there are more women than men.

[crimethink]

the fact that they are the ones that break up relationships the most often by far... so i have no problems in believing that there are more women than men in hell. Just look at the current state of the west.. how much of this degeneration is not as a result of so called feminism?

"Feminism" is a symptom, not a disease. The disease is cowardice on the part of Western males. Including you. After all, you embraced the Enemy.

To all: the Mooslim's statement above is why Islam continues to stone women to death. The mentality remains.

[Twisted Titan]

Some muslims unfortunately act like the hadiths have higher authority than the Quran even though they are written by people who lived several hundred years after the prophet Mohammed (pbuh).


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The hadiths arose because the koran was completely incoherent and didnt make lick of sense if one was to do a straight reading reading of the text.

some stories are incomplete
some stories stop in the middle and break to another topic
some stories dont make any sense at all

just a quick point to make my case.
In the koran it tells the short tale of Dhul-Qarnayn ( Zul-Qarnain) now where does it say in the koran who he is???

No where.

Its only in Your Hadiths is this man claimed to be Alexander the great.

whom you also claimed was a Great Muslim which is utterly amazing because it is a well established historical fact this man was a unabashed polytheist and ultimately claimed himself to be god and worshiped.

The hadiths arose not out of convenience but necessity

[Norweger]

The hadiths arose because the koran was completely incoherent and didnt make lick of sense if one was to do a straight reading reading of the text.

So you've read the Quran i take it?

[Twisted Titan]

So you've read the Quran i take it?

I am almost complete it but i can say with a 10000 percent honesty.

The reason why it is taking so long is because i have to constantly stop and take it a piece at a time and cross reference it between the Haddiths and yotubes vids for further explanation.


Another thing that blew my mind.

Why do muslims pray 5 times a day?

It the koran it is only 3 times.

So where does the 5 come from?

The Hadiths.

So the Hadith interpetation has been adopted by the mass of the Islamic faith.

I have pointed this discrepancy and had muslims walk off in digust saying i need to read the koran in arabic.

[madfranks]

I have pointed this discrepancy and had muslims walk off in digust saying i need to read the koran in arabic.

Years ago I was having a debate with a moslem and that was his main argument, that I was reading an English translation, and needed an arabic one. So I went out and bought an Arabic/English side-by-side Koran, and I still have it somewhere, it's full of highlights and notes.

[Twisted Titan]

So you've read the Quran i take it?

And I should hope that you have read

The Turat (The Torah)
The Ingeel ( The Gospels)
The Zabul(The Psalms)

Because if you follow The Sunna of The Prophet then YOU MUST have all three and THEY MUST BE READ because the Prophet said that The words of allah are uncoruptable and if you have any problems or questions about what is reavealed in your koran you are COMMANDED to go to the people of THE BOOK and they will clarify it for you.


Well who is That according to your Prophet???

ME.

[Twisted Titan]

Years ago I was having a debate with a moslem and that was his main argument, that I was reading an English translation, and needed an arabic one. So I went out and bought an Arabic/English side-by-side Koran, and I still have it somewhere, it's full of highlights and notes.

Which boggles my mind because the arabic of the koran is a 7th centuray dialect and a study was done 80-85% of muslims that recite their daily prayers DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING . They are just repeating empty words they have been taught since they were childeren.

Another thing that blew my mind.

The koran that most muslims carry around was printed under the authority of saudi arabia ( The hauftz)( sp) do you know when that was offically canonized?

1924 !!!!!

The koran that billions of muslims walk around with claiming that is was unchanged is not even 100 years old yet!!!

[midnight rambler]

Dude, do you REALLY expect those who have been severely dumbed down as a result of centuries of inbreeding to comprehend that??


Which boggles my mind because the arabic of the koran is a 7th centuray dialect and a study was done 80-85% of muslims that recite their daily prayers DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING . They are just repeating empty words they have been taught since they were childeren.

Another thing that blew my mind.

The koran that most muslims carry around was printed under the authority of saudi arabia ( The hauftz)( sp) do you know when that was offically canonized?

1924 !!!!!

The koran that billions of muslims walk around with claiming that is was unchanged is not even 100 years old yet!!!

[Twisted Titan]

Dude, do you REALLY expect those who have been severely dumbed down as a result of centuries of inbreeding to comprehend that??

Its not their fault they were born into spritual darkness

But "The Prophet" I follow commands me to bring The Good news to those that have little or no knowlege of it.


One thing i know is this of all the people that come to Yeshua the ones that have the most zeal and love for him are muslims.

Why is that? Because to come to faith you have to leave everything behind and live with the knowelege you can be killed at anytime.

That requires real love.

Love that is sorely lacking about people over hear that claim they live for Yeshua.


I talk hard but i do it in the context that my words will trouble them enough to start digging and find the truth out for themselves.

[7th trump]

Its not their fault they were born into spritual darkness

But "The Prophet" I follow commands me to bring The Good news to those that have little or no knowlege of it.


One thing i know is this of all the people that come to Yeshua the ones that have the most zeal and love for him are muslims.

Why is that? Because to come to faith you have to leave everything behind and live with the knowelege you can be killed at anytime.

That requires real love.

Love that is sorely lacking about people over hear that claim they live for Yeshua.


I talk hard but i do it in the context that my words will trouble them enough to start digging and find the truth out for themselves.

Muslims don't believe in Yeshua
They believe in allah and muhammad.

Are you thinking of converting to islam?

[Shami-Amourae]

On Breitbart now:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/31/huffpo-muhammad-historys-first-feminist/

[7th trump]

Dude, do you REALLY expect those who have been severely dumbed down as a result of centuries of inbreeding to comprehend that??

Ever stop and think that maybe your brain washed and brain washing?

Arabs aren't dumbed down from inbreeding........islam doesn't allow education.

[Twisted Titan]

Muslims don't believe in Yeshua
They believe in allah and muhammad.



They believe Isa is the son of Miriam (Yeshua)
They believe he is the messiah
They believe he is the word of God and Spirit of God
They believe he is in heaven now
They also believe he will come again.

They just need help getting to the rest of the truth.

[crimethink]

They believe Isa is the son of Miriam (Yeshua)
They believe he is the messiah
They believe he is the word of God and Spirit of God
They believe he is in heaven now
They also believe he will come again.

They just need help getting to the rest of the truth.

They also deny Jesus Christ is the Son of a God - a requirement for salvation.

It is very arguable that "Isa" is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible, but merely "another Christ."

Muslims must entirely discard Islam to become adopted sons.

[Twisted Titan]

Im not refuting what you say....my postion is to expose the gaping irreconcilable facts about islam but at the same time provide enough info to bring to the truth about Christ.

Whomever has the ears to hear will want to know more.

Its just now i am in a place where i am much more knoweleable about what islam teaches and can offer rebuttals from their own sources where in the past i would just hurl insults just like everybody else.

Who likes to admit they have been deceived?

My desire is to come across with sound arguments about the truth of Christ and his Diety