Trump NASCAR

[ximmy]

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https://www.facebook.com/reedsorensonracing/

http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/sprint-cup-driver-to-run-donald-trump-car-at-texas-motor-speedway-110216

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[midnight rambler]

The MAGA NASCAR race car is a fucking Toyota. lol

[crimethink]

The MAGA NASCAR race car is a fucking Toyota. lol

First thing I noticed. FAIL.

[ximmy]

Haters!

[ximmy]

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[Cebu_4_2]

Since you can put Trump shit on anything I have a few ideas...

[Shami-Amourae]

AWWOOOOOOOOM~

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[vacuum]

The MAGA NASCAR race car is a fucking Toyota. lol

They employ more americans than most of "our" car manufacturers do.

[cheka.]

toyota makes a lot of cars in US, no? they'll be building more US plants if trump keeps his word on import tariff

[crimethink]

Haters!

Nothing "wrong" with a Jap car per se, except that a real patriot will drive a Ford or Chevy (or GMC). Not even a Fix It Again, Tony Dodge.

[crimethink]

They employ more americans than most of "our" car manufacturers do.

NOPE.

I don't get this Jap car love. It's a Jap name and the profits go to the Japs.

Ford hourly employees in the US: 50,703

GM hourly employees in the US: 50,300

Toyota: a generic "more than 30,000" total employees (no breakdown of hourlies - the above stats for Ford and GM do not include salaried employees)

Why in Hell is anyone supporting Trump and/or attacking "globalism" if you support the globalism of Jap cars?

[crimethink]

toyota makes a lot of cars in US, no? they'll be building more US plants if trump keeps his word on import tariff

Better idea: tell the Japs to go to Hell, and keep the profit here. We need an autarkic economy...if it can be made here, MAKE it here, BY Americans, BY an American company.

[Cebu_4_2]

Jap cars run forever, mostly no major issues vs the US vehicles. FACT
You don't even have to maintain them and they run 200k plus.

Personally I like German BMWs which DO need maintenance or they wont survive.
I like the BMW because of the safety factor incase of an accident.
I have never bought one new and the only ones I bought were 200K plus when acquired.

[crimethink]

Jap cars run forever, mostly no major issues vs the US vehicles. FACT
You don't even have to maintain them and they run 200k plus.

NOT "fact."

Sly marketing has made people believe Jap cars "run forever" and "don't even need maintenance." They "never get recalled" is another myth. These myths exist because of a concerted effort, and are purely illusion, like "all Jews are smart."

If Jap cars "ran forever," Toyota, et. al., would offer 10 year / 100,000 mile warranties.

Police and fire departments and ambulance services don't use Jap chassis/vehicles. Most of the time it's Ford, sometimes Chevy/GM, and increasingly, Mercedes/Dodge Sprinter.

[ximmy]

I found some history on American car manufacturing quality issues and such, and about better Japanese car quality.

http://www.anythingaboutcars.com/1980s-cars.html

It was a reality that the Big Three had to face and the truth was hard to swallow. The Japanese, whose products were being derided by Americans a generation before, had done their homework and were producing cars that outperform American-made ones. It was a slow process that produced reliable, quality cars. In the early 1950s, Japanese automakers visited American plants. They learned what they had from American plants, absorbed the technology and then adapted it to fit their own society. They created massive auto factories where work was broken down into specific operations carried out by teams working together.


This was a departure from the way Americans produce their cars. In the U.S., management and workers didn't get along well. The auto unions fostered a distrust between them and management, hence quality of the cars they make wasn't a priority with them but just a byproduct of their existence as employees. In Japan, there was not only mutual respect between supervisor and worker, there was also constant dialogue. Management valued the input of the assembly-line worker because he was closest to the production process.....


Americans, who shortly before loved their big, thirsty American-made cars, discovered that Hondas, Nissans, and Toyotas were not only fuel efficient, but mechanically sound as well. That was the shift....


The same derision for shoddy "Made in Japan" products turned to affection. Confidence in Japanese cars began to rise dramatically through a combination of advertising and word of mouth. Starting in early 1980s, the greatest recession/depression for the American auto industry happened. On the other hand, the Japanese were doing very well. In the meantime, by 1980 industry observers estimated that for every 100 American cars coming off the assembly line, there were 700 defects.


American drivers of 1980s cars made in Japan were getting used to a different kind of quality standard, the defect-free standard; the vehicle that almost never has to go back to the dealer for a repair.


American car executives finally realized that to be able to compete with imports, they had to raise their quality and productivity, the standard of excellence in car manufacture, or they weren't going to make it in the car manufacturing business. In the early 1980s, Chrysler was in bad shape compared to Ford and GM who had better resources.....

Much more at link.

[crimethink]

I found some history on American car manufacturing quality issues and such, and about better Japanese car quality.

That's history, from the 1970s and 1980s. Ford, GM, and Scheißler put out some real lemons back then. But my, how things have changed...

The reality now is Jap cars have racked up millions of recalled vehicles, including the infamous, multi-phase Toyota "I want to go FASTER" gas pedals, and the across-the-Jap-brands seat belt and then years later (2013-2016) not-as-intended-exploding airbag recalls due to Jap manufacturer Takata (about to file Chapter 11 over it).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/11/03/takata-air-bags/93243110/

I've never had any trouble with my US-made TRW seat belts...how can you fuck those up?

[zap]

Sorry I have always had Nissians ,JAP CARS LOL ! Got 218,000 miles on this one 2006 still going strong the one I parked cause I was tired of driving it had 263000. lol, gave my cousin my deceased moms car Ford Taurus,,,,, trannys going out at 96000.
I wish we could build great cars here in America! WTH

[ximmy]

That's history, from the 1970s and 1980s. Ford, GM, and Scheißler put out some real lemons back then. But my, how things have changed...

The reality now is Jap cars have racked up millions of recalled vehicles, including the infamous, multi-phase Toyota "I want to go FASTER" gas pedals, and the across-the-Jap-brands seat belt and then years later (2013-2016) not-as-intended-exploding airbag recalls due to Jap manufacturer Takata (about to file Chapter 11 over it).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/11/03/takata-air-bags/93243110/

I've never had any trouble with my US-made TRW seat belts...how can you fuck those up?

It appears you have missed the point. Without foreign car manufacturers quality and the choice to buy a better car, the American companies would still be giving us crappy cars.

[Cebu_4_2]

It appears you have missed the point. Without foreign car manufacturers quality and the choice to buy a better car, the American companies would still be giving us crappy cars.


Probably still wouldn't have over drive either.

[ximmy]

crimethink is kind of like the snopes of GSUS... :p

"Attempts to give accurate information about rumors and urban legends on a variety of topics, including war, business, events, toxins, science, military, etc"

[cheka.]

NOPE.

I don't get this Jap car love. It's a Jap name and the profits go to the Japs.

Ford hourly employees in the US: 50,703

GM hourly employees in the US: 50,300

Toyota: a generic "more than 30,000" total employees (no breakdown of hourlies - the above stats for Ford and GM do not include salaried employees)

Why in Hell is anyone supporting Trump and/or attacking "globalism" if you support the globalism of Jap cars?

any backing of 'american' car companies is misplaced. they are in no way american -- see bold below

http://fortune.com/2015/06/29/cars-made-in-america/

Cars.com released its 10th American Made Index (AMI) of the vehicles that qualify as the most American—based on where parts are manufactured (a vehicle must be made of at least 75% U.S. parts to even make the list), where the vehicle is built, and what percentage of the vehicles’ sales are U.S.-based, among other factors.

This year’s AMI yielded a few surprises. The Toyota Camry is, apparently, the most American vehicle on sale in the U.S. Surprise No. 2: Ford fell off the list entirely this year—even though the F-150 pickup topped the list in 2013 and 2014. (A Chrysler hasn’t shown up since 2012.) Surprise No. 3: Ten years ago, when Cars.com began compiling the AMI, 29 vehicles made the cut; this year, only seven did—not even enough for a Top Ten. Globalization is here.

“It reinforces the Americanization story of Toyota,” says Bill Fay, general manager of Toyota Motor Sales, U.S. “We operate ten plants in the U.S., build more than 2 million vehicles here, and 71% of our sales [here in America] are vehicles built in North America.”

The full list of Cars.com 2015 American Made Index winners:

Toyota Camry
Toyota Sienna
Chevrolet Traverse
Honda Odyssey
GMC Acadia
Buick Enclave
Chevrolet Corvette

[Shami-Amourae]

AWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM~

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[ximmy]

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[cheka.]

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Domestic-parts content stems from Congress' 1992 American Automobile Labeling Act, which groups the U.S. and Canada under the same "domestic" umbrella. It's one of the bill's imperfections, but the AALA is the only domestic-parts labeling system car shoppers can find on every new car sold in America.

Other domestic-content ratings — namely those used for the North American Free Trade Agreement and the corporate average fuel economy programs — are unpublished, give a simple over/under indication or lump even more countries, like Mexico, into the "domestic" pool.

https://www.cars.com/articles/the-2015-american-made-index-1420680649381/

[Cebu_4_2]

At least it wasn't a Prius.


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