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JohnQPublic
5th November 2016, 11:31 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3894806/Woman-alleged-raped-Donald-Trump-13-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-DROPS-case-casting-doubt-truth-claims.html

Her account was that on that very first night, she met Donald Trump.

Tiffany said there was a party and she took Johnson to meet Epstein at a mansion on 71st Street in Manhattan, that had belonged to retail magnate Leslie H. Wexner of The Limited and was turned over to Epstein.

Johnson recalls that the house was 'filled with expensive things' and she felt out of place.

It is certainly true that Epstein held parties at the house, and that he is a pedophile. In the course of DailyMail.com's investigations, we spoke to 'Tiffany', who offered a similar account of events, but no actual evidence to back her assertions.

'Tiffany' also decline to provide her own true identity.

In Johnson's version, she told DailyMail.com how Epstein asked her to strip down to her 'panties' during an impromptu interview before requesting that she give him a massage.

Fueled by Tiffany's assertion that she would have to do certain things to make it as a professional model she agreed, she claimed.
Johnson claimed that even at that first meeting Epstein tried to have sex with her but she refused.

He told her at the end: 'You'll do, you've got the job.'

And that night at the party - which she says was filled with men and young girls - she would meet Donald Trump, she claimed.
Johnson acknowledges that she had no idea who Donald Trump was at the time.

But she claims that she would never forget his face and it was only years later when Trump starred in The Apprentice that she recognized the man she says sexually assaulted her.

That may be the crucial flaw in her story.

She claims the businessman, who in the summer of 1994 was 48, saw her and requested her company through Tiffany.

She said: 'He didn't really talk to me at all, he spoke at me, but he was talking to Tiffany more telling her what he wanted me to do. I thought he felt like he was too good to even speak to me.

'Tiffany told me what I needed to do. Anything he did say to me wasn't that great, like "you need some work". I was 13 I didn't know what I was doing.'
Johnson recalls how Tiffany explained how to sexually stimulate Trump.

'Tiffany explained it like it was second nature - like I should have known what those things meant. This night I was supposed to manually stimulate him and I needed to use a glove for whatever reason,' she said.

She added: 'And I did not know what she meant at first, I had only kissed a boy at that point, I didn't know what to do. She (Tiffany) wanted to give me a crash course, the whole time I'm not wanting to do it.

'But she's like, "that's how models get in to the industry", and if I wanted to be a model bad enough then I would do it.'

Johnson says the man she claims to be Trump said very little to her during that first encounter other than she reminded him of his daughter.

After Johnson finished the sex act, she claims, he made a comment that she 'wasn't great', before putting on his pants.

'He left, I don't know whether he went to another girl, but that was the last time I saw him that night,' she said.
Before she left the party Epstein gave her $700.

Tiffany then drove Johnson back to the Port Authority bus terminal and she returned home to Oklahoma in the early hours. During the long journey home she broke down in tears.

'I cried for a while, I didn't know what to do. I was in this dilemma,' she said. 'I can't tell my parents where I went - I didn't think they were gonna understand. It would be more than a grounding.

'I felt that I needed to go back and pretend it never happened.'

But then just a few days later Epstein's recruiter Tiffany called Johnson at home.

Tiffany told her she was mailing her a plane ticket back to New York, there would be money in with it and she also promised to set up a meeting with a director of a modeling agency.

'She promised to get me into modeling, to get me some gigs and organize my portfolio,' she said.

'I felt that at least what happened at the last party wouldn't have been a waste and at least I get to do what I came for.'

Tiffany had told Johnson to keep the encounters secret from her friends and family and made veiled threats that she might get hurt if she lets the secret out because she was dealing with 'powerful people'.

'Within a couple of weeks I was heading back to New York. Tiffany had sent me some kind of buddy pass for the flight and money for a cab,' said Johnson. 'I stayed at Tiffany's apartment. I remember she had a driver who would take us places.

'But when I went back there was a party that night. She (Tiffany) was basically ready when she drove up to the airport to pick me up, my plane had been delayed. I asked her if we could go to her house but basically I changed in the back.

'When I got to the mansion it was basically the same thing, kind of meet people, entertain people, walk around. If someone requests something of you then...
'Again Tiffany said I got requested and it was the same guy as before, it was Trump. And I was to give him oral sex.

'I had never done that to anybody so I was a little nervous, so I walked up to him and moved in that direction and he kind of slapped me away and said, "what are you doing, you need to put a condom on"'.

Tiffany ran over and handed Johnson a condom and apologized profusely to the man she claims was Trump.

'I felt very intimidated, he made a comment that I wasn't doing it right, that I needed to take classes,' she said. 'He continued to let me do it, he didn't tell me to stop. He said something to Tiffany a couple of time, "tell her to go faster".

'Tiffany was close by, then after a little while, I guess he was done with it and he went. I didn't see him again that night.'

Tears welling in her eyes, Johnson added: 'I knew it was wrong, I didn't want to do it, I was scared. I wanted it to be over.
'I was worried what my dad was gonna think, I didn't want him to ever find out, I felt pretty horrible.'

She was again enticed back to New York for a third time that summer with the promise of a photo shoot and a hook up with a modeling agency.

She claims: 'It was within a few days of the second visit Tiffany called me and said, "You've been requested for a fantasy role play". You could tell she was being pushed at her end.'

Johnson was told she wouldn't have to participate in another party because it was a private set up with another girl.

'I agreed, I got the ticket and I did the whole thing of "going to grandma's" and got a cab.

'I got to New York and was taken to Jeffrey Epstein's house. I was taken to a room and it was me and another girl were cleaning and we would have an encounter and he [Trump] would come in.'

She described a sordid role play in which her and another underage girl were dressed as maids and she claims they were forced to 'make out' with each other.
She alleges Trump - or the man she claims was Trump - entered the room and feigned surprise at seeing the two girls.

'She told me it was a role play but she didn't tell me what kind until I got there. And so I'm freaking out, I'm like, so you want to tie me to a bed and play out a rape scene with a man.

Johnson said: 'Maria was around the same age as me, it was pretty obvious. I felt she was going through the same thing as me, in that she was being forced to be there somehow.

'So we cleaned and then very clumsily kissed and Trump caught us making out on the job as part of the role play.'

She claims 'Trump' ordered the two girls to carry out a string of sex acts on each other and on him.

'Again he finished and said we both could have done it better and then left. We never saw him again that night.'

She added: 'At that point, after these three encounters, the type of man he was, I thought that he was a creepy guy, a molester who wanted sex with these girls. He's older than my dad, I felt like he was evil, I was scared of him.'

Again she went home to Oklahoma in tears but there was to be one final trip to New York.

'Tiffany would call me and check on me. Then she was like, "Hey I have something", but she was like, "this is the time though, if you can do this we will set you up. You'll be getting a contract tonight".

'She didn't say what agency but she said I would be signed by an agency that night if I decided to go.

'I was like, "well what's the worst that could happen", I thought the worst had already been happening.'

'She [Tiffany] told me it was a role play but she didn't tell me what kind until I got there,' she recalls. 'And so I'm freaking out, I'm like, so you want to tie me to a bed and play out a rape scene with a man.

'It was just going to be that and that's what he [Trump] wanted.'

Johnson made sure Tiffany stayed in the room and says 'Trump' agreed reluctantly to allow her.

'He was pretty rough with me, I was already tied to the bed. I didn't really know it was gonna be that, he pushed me around and tore off my clothes,' she alleges.
She says she thought she would have to stimulate the real estate mogul orally or manually as had happened before.

'It was like he was going for one thing, it was basically to have intercourse and I started crying and I asked him to stop and I asked Tiffany to come over, but he kept on,' she claims.

Johnson, who says she was a virgin, said Tiffany tried to intervene, but she was pushed away.

She says: 'It was basically like he was doing it, he was like, "what did you think this was gonna be?" He was very abrasive and I just started crying and I screamed and said "please don't", and he slapped me and told me to shut up and then he ripped my panties off.

'He had sex with me without me wanting to. He was disgusted by the fact I was crying.

'He got up and started putting on my clothes and basically he was disgusted by the fact I was crying.'

Johnson says she recalls saying to Tiffany in ear shot of the man she claims was Trump that she could get pregnant because he didn't use a condom.
As much as I try to forget about everything that happened, it always affects everything in my life.

But she said: 'Trump basically said that I should be proud that he would even allow me the opportunity and if I got pregnant I could get an abortion.'
With that, she says, 'Trump' threw $400 on to the floor in her direction.

'Tiffany made clear she wasn't happy with him and then Jeffrey Epstein came in and he saw that there was money on the floor and got mad, he asked if I had asked for the money and said that he was gonna be the one to pay me and said it wasn't mine to take.'

Johnson said that Epstein also tried to have sex with her but she says she managed to 'fight him off' and he got really angry and made a series of threats to her.
According to the lawsuit Epstein also raped her on that occasion.

The woman identified only as Tiffany Doe in the lawsuit, a 'trusted employee' of Epstein's,' corroborated Johnson's' allegations in a telephone call with DailyMail.com, but she refused to reveal her full identity.

Cebu_4_2
5th November 2016, 11:51 AM
4th different story on this, all are different. I think a total hoax all the way around.

JohnQPublic
5th November 2016, 12:01 PM
4th different story on this, all are different. I think a total hoax all the way around.

Pretty racy, though.

Dogman
5th November 2016, 12:08 PM
Pretty racy, though.

Lmfao !
Yep !

Reads like a historical fiction story/paperback that women love to read !

Hoot !

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Neuro
5th November 2016, 12:59 PM
Trump was very well known in 1994, when this supposedly happened. This 13 year old was supposed to have 4 sexual encounters with Trump, with weeks in between, but she didn't figure out who it was until the Apprentice aired? She never looked through gossip magazines, other magazines, newspaper front page pics, television news.

Fail!

Joshua01
5th November 2016, 01:03 PM
Trump was very well known in 1994, when this supposedly happened. This 13 year old was supposed to have 4 sexual encounters with Trump, with weeks in between, but she didn't figure out who it was until the Apprentice aired? She never looked through gossip magazines, other magazines, newspaper front page pics, television news.

Fail!
That's what I keep saying. Trump would have been exposed by now given he's been a billionaire all his adult life and no one has come forward to take advantage of that?

Pure, unadulterated bullshitt!!

EE_
5th November 2016, 01:04 PM
Trump got all the top shelf poon he wanted, he didn't need little girls to get his rocks off.
His whole life was in the spotlight, I doubt he would risk it all that way and think no one would ever say anything.

Neuro
5th November 2016, 01:38 PM
Trump was very well known in 1994, when this supposedly happened. This 13 year old was supposed to have 4 sexual encounters with Trump, with weeks in between, but she didn't figure out who it was until the Apprentice aired? She never looked through gossip magazines, other magazines, newspaper front page pics, television news.

Fail!
I just googled Apprentice to see when it was produced first (2004), and "The Apprentice" came up, but the first 8-9 links was the BBC produced U.K. Apprentice... possibly because I am googling from Sweden, but I suspect it is anti-trump Google bias responsible... As the US Apprentice with Trump that was the first and most well known also in Sweden, by magnitudes!

That this women remembered the face of DT perfectly, but didn't realize who it was until at earliest 10 years later when The Apprentice aired first is utterly absurd.

Neuro
5th November 2016, 03:26 PM
Woman drops lawsuit claiming Trump raped her at age 13
https://www.rt.com/usa/365401-woman-drops-lawsuit-rape-trump/

Dogman
5th November 2016, 03:31 PM
Due to growing up during the cold war I trust anything said by any organ or source from Russia with high smelly suspicion, but they are anti american to the max as some members here are , so go for it.. The story may be true, but most news is a bending is a mix of a tad of truth mixed with a dash of aggenda. Especially from russia, and hehe fox news . ;D

Joshua01
5th November 2016, 04:03 PM
Woman drops lawsuit claiming Trump raped her at age 13
https://www.rt.com/usa/365401-woman-drops-lawsuit-rape-trump/
That was the plan all along. She dropped the suit because of 'death threats' presumably from the deplorable. It makes great drama and no harm was done (that is if you dismiss Trump's options going forward). I hope she's been paid well. She's going to need a lot of dough to dig herself out of what comes next!!

Hitch
5th November 2016, 04:05 PM
What he needs to do is turn around and sue her for defamation.

The fact is, the media, the only thing they have on Trump, is he says mean things. He's one of the few in the spotlight that seems to have a happy healthy family. I bet this gal got a nice check from Soros to come out and lie like she did.

Joshua01
5th November 2016, 04:10 PM
What he needs to do is turn around and sue her for defamation.

The fact is, the media, the only thing they have on Trump, is he says mean things. He's one of the few in the spotlight that seems to have a happy healthy family. I bet this gal got a nice check from Soros to come out and lie like she did.
Oh he will, win or lose, and if Trump has some kind of tragic accident his wife and family will sue x10!!!

Neuro
5th November 2016, 05:16 PM
Due to growing up during the cold war I trust anything said by any organ or source from Russia with high smelly suspicion, but they are anti american to the max as some members here are , so go for it.. The story may be true, but most news is a bending is a mix of a tad of truth mixed with a dash of aggenda. Especially from russia, and hehe fox news . ;D
You really have low energy Jeb! The mainstream politicians you supported since the end of the Cold War was anti-American, but you don't care, because you only get the information you trust on Jewish Owned (anti-)American mainstream media, that has managed to convince you that truth are lies and vice versa...

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama. These guys sold America, and made a fortune doing so. But surely the problem is Russia...

Joshua01
5th November 2016, 06:53 PM
You really have low energy Jeb! The mainstream politicians you supported since the end of the Cold War was anti-American, but you don't care, because you only get the information you trust on Jewish Owned (anti-)American mainstream media, that has managed to convince you that truth are lies and vice versa...

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama. These guys sold America, and made a fortune doing so. But surely the problem is Russia...
Yep!!!

Cebu_4_2
5th November 2016, 10:51 PM
You really have low energy Jeb! The mainstream politicians you supported since the end of the Cold War was anti-American, but you don't care, because you only get the information you trust on Jewish Owned (anti-)American mainstream media, that has managed to convince you that truth are lies and vice versa...

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama. These guys sold America, and made a fortune doing so. But surely the problem is Russia...



Jeb LOL... will remember this...