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Twisted Titan
11th November 2016, 10:48 PM
Romans 13:1-2


Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: The powers that be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Twisted Titan
11th November 2016, 10:51 PM
I find this passage being thrown out like candy in the past ....but for some odd reason I havent seen it since the election.

I just want make sure it didn't get memory holed on the Internet

crimethink
11th November 2016, 11:09 PM
Romans 13:1-2


Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: The powers that be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Well then, my friend, you are going to Hell:

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Not really...Romans 13 does not mean what you are implying. For if it did, Stalin, Mao, and impotent imitators like Obama would also be "ordained by God."

The key to understanding the true, Godly meaning of Romans 13 is this: "For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended."

The passage refers to the generic "government," not specifically each government that is in power. Even a bad government can do good, such as keep the peace from common criminals. But government that punishes doing right and rewards doing wrong is not good, Godly government. If Trump protects America and does right, we should follow his lead. If not, then, well...

Twisted Titan
11th November 2016, 11:50 PM
Oh I know..

I just remember a while a ago I think info wars did a story about how Marshall law was going to kick off in major metro centers and part how it was going work was they would coordinate with mega churches in those areas to assist inn the establishment of order and the verse to churches was going to use ally fear and bring compliance was Romans 13

I just had to laugh that because that was turned on its head with the election of DT

StreetsOfGold
12th November 2016, 09:14 AM
I find this passage being thrown out like candy in the past ....but for some odd reason I havent seen it since the election.

I just want make sure it didn't get memory holed on the Internet

You did not. Any leader a nation has is (ultimately) by God's permission.
It may not be his WILL (see Saul Vs. David as an example) but the LEADER (no matter how wicked they may be) is there with God's permission!!

C.Martel
12th November 2016, 10:22 AM
Romans 13:1-2


Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: The powers that be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

During the time that Romans was written, God ordained the Romans to be the power.

During Tsarist Russia, Christendom was the power. God does not ordain the destruction of Christendom. The Russian Orthodox Church decreed that their followers fight the God-hating Jew Communists during the Civil War and after. The ordain that Christians fight the Communists has not been rescinded by the Church of the East. A false Church arose during the persecutions in Russia and said the joys and sorrows of the Jewish Bolsheviks are the joys and sorrows of the "Church". Complete whoredom and heresy. That whore is the present Russian Orthodox Church (it is apart of the World Council of Churches (a Rockefeller creation, among others) and apart of the false Church known as World Orthodoxy). Zionism is worse than Communism. God did not ordain Jewish Communism or Jewish Zionism. That is 'Christian' Zionist nonsense.

What are Christians to do to rebellious Jews? Read Lk 19:27. It is Christ ordained. Demons are not to be served.

St. John Chrysostom: "Does not greater harm come from this place since the Jews themselves are demons?"

JohnQPublic
12th November 2016, 10:26 AM
I did post that earlier this election (as I am sure others have even before). But it always bears repeating.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?92897-Does-America-Deserve-Donald-Trump&p=861338&viewfull=1#post861338

crimethink
12th November 2016, 02:06 PM
During the time that Romans was written, God ordained the Romans to be the power....God did not ordain Jewish Communism or Jewish Zionism.

Your statements are cognitive dissonnance...doublethink. Either God "ordains" evil dictatorships or He does not. I assert He does not...He only allows evil to occur, but does not ordain/endorse it. God ordains generic "government," not specific governments.