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crimethink
12th November 2016, 04:52 PM
Is a Muslim from the Midwest set to take over the Democratic National Committee?

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-is-a-muslim-from-the-midwest-set-to-1478901281-htmlstory.html

He's a Muslim from the heartland and he could be the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota is slowly raking up support from some key figures within the party, such as Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and New York Sen. Charles Schumer, who want him to be the next leader, following the party’s humbling presidential loss earlier this week.

Citing more than 250,000 signatures in support of Ellison on a petition posted to his website, Sanders said the congressman is the future of the party.

"The Democratic Party needs to look itself in the mirror and work tirelessly to become once again the party that working people know will work for their interests," Sanders, who amassed a youthful, liberal following during the Democratic primary, said in a statement. "Keith is one of the most progressive members of Congress, and he was an early supporter of our political revolution."

Twisted Titan
12th November 2016, 05:59 PM
And the serpent swallowed its tail just a wee bit more

cheka.
12th November 2016, 07:58 PM
as i posted before, this african muzzie is getting a lot of nyc.dc hype. i guess they figure that since they got a saddam hussein osama elected for 8 years at the height of muzzie fearmongering that they can push that same breed again. fading that notion...

Joshua01
12th November 2016, 08:15 PM
We've already had a muzzle president. My great hope is he leaves without causing any more pain and suffering so the healing can begin.

Neuro
12th November 2016, 11:50 PM
Somehow I don't think this will please the Hispanic population...

cheka.
17th December 2016, 01:16 PM
keef supports blm, reparations, separatism

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/01/potential-dnc-leader-keith-ellisons-controversial-law-school-columns-show-anger-not-bigotry/

When Ellison ran for Congress in 2006, he told the Washington Post that he was initially drawn to Farrakhan because he saw him standing up for African-Americans — but that he didn’t approve of bigotry against Jews or others. “My perspective was a tunnel vision; I was mostly concerned about the welfare of the African-American community,” he explained to the Washington Post.

“I never said anything that was anti-Semitic, racist, homophobic in any way.” But he also admitted to being slow to pick up on the hatred espoused by Farrakhan.

The student newspaper columns he wrote as a law student seem to confirm his story. They also help illustrate a serious, lifelong commitment to social justice.

The conservative World Net Daily and Daily Caller websites recently ran articles decrying Ellison, who used the pen name “Keith Hakim” for one particular column they read as advocacy for a separate nation for black Americans — which is indeed an extreme policy proposal.

But that call was part of a longer, thoughtful discussion of the failures of affirmative action. In the February 2, 1990, column, titled “Affirmative action does not make up for past injustice,” he argued that America’s social programs were failing to truly address injustices committed against African-Americans, while also unfairly burdening working class white Americans.

“Conservatives have a point concerning affirmative action,” he wrote. “Why should marginally qualified white college students and blue-collar workers shoulder over 400 years of white supremacy alone? … Let’s face it — liberal social programs, including but not limited to affirmative action, foist the burden of brutal white savagery on the most marginally qualified whites, usually students or the white working class.”

This brought him to propose not a genuine alternative, but a thought experiment of sorts: “I have a challenge for all fair-minded middle- and working-class white people: I will urge black people to abandon white-dominated, integration-oriented, give-away programs if you urge white people to justly compensate black people for 250 years of slavery, 90 years of Jim Crow and 25 years of neo-Jim Crow.”

In that scenario, he suggested reparations in the form of cash compensation and giving blacks “the option of choosing their own land base or remaining in the United States.” Five states in the Deep South would become “the black state,” although neither whites nor blacks would be compelled to move, he explained.

The school columns also provide insight into how Ellison distinguished between being opposed to Israeli imperialism and being anti-Semitic.

In 1990, black students at the University of Minnesota invited Kwame Ture — the black activist more commonly known as Stokely Carmichael, a former leader of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee — to address the school. Ture was under fire for comments he made disparaging Zionism, the founding philosophy of the state of Israel.

The university’s president, Nils Hasselmo, defended Ture’s right to speak but exclaimed that he found Ture’s views to be “deeply offensive.”

Ellison perceived Hasselmo’s comments as an attack on black students’ right to free speech, responding with a column titled “Blacks struggle for freedom of speech.” In that column, Ellison defended the invitation to Ture, but also separated criticisms of Zionism from those of the Jewish people. “If Zionism is nationalism — and not religion — then it is necessarily a political matter,” he wrote. “Political matters are always subject to debate, which means support or criticism. Those who opt to criticize Israel are not necessarily anti-Jewish.”

......he is an outspoken supporter of Black Lives Matter, but also believes that engaging in tactics that turn people away rather than build coalitions is the wrong approach to create justice.

monty
7th January 2017, 07:27 PM
. . . . http://www.westernjournalism.com/thepoint/2017/01/02/dems-show-their-true-colors-with-sick-move-theyve-prepared-for-trump-any-attempt/



Dems Show Their True Colors With SICK Move They’ve Prepared For Trump: ‘Any Attempt…’

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Remember when Democrats thought that “obstructionist” was the worst thing that a Capitol Hill lawmaker could be?

When Republicans in Congress refused to go along with President Obama’s agenda, the o-word was dragged out and slung around endlessly. For instance, in a February, 2016 op-ed for The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/reid-to-gop-for-the-good-of-the-country-stop-your-nakedly-partisan-obstruction/2016/02/15/07f225e8-d42d-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html?utm_term=.0ab07cf00a3b), Harry Reid said that by the GOP not voting on Merrick Garland’s nomination to the Supreme Court, “they will ensure that this Republican majority is remembered as the most nakedly partisan, obstructionist and irresponsible majority in history. All other impressions will be instantly and irretrievably swept away.”

So, after losing the presidency and remaining the minority party in both houses of Congress, the consistently principled individuals in Democrat leadership said that they weren’t going to obstruct the new president in any … no, wait, sorry. What I actually meant to say
was, they plan to do something unprecedented with Trump and his cabinet pi (http://www.westernjournalism.com/trump-reveals-he-gets-input-from-obama-on-potential-cabinet-picks/)cks
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According to The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/01/01/here-are-the-8-trump-cabinet-picks-democrats-plan-to-target/?utm_term=.7157a13dd355), Democrats are ready to show their true colors by engaging in “an unprecedented break with Senate tradition.”
Democrat leaders have targeted eight Trump administration nominees whom they plan to obstruct as long as possible, thus denying Trump a full cabinet. The claimed reason is that they want the appointees to disclose financial information that they aren’t required to submit.
However, since they’re in the minority, filibustering and delay tactics are the only way the roadblocking Democrats can stall or deny the picks unless some Republicans join the effort to impede.

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According to The Post, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has told Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) that he plans to focus fire on secretary of state nominee Rex Tillerson (http://www.westernjournalism.com/thepoint/2016/12/13/trumps-latest-cabinet-pick-shows-hes-still-ready-for-a-fight-even-with-republicans/), attorney general nominee Sen. Jeff Sessions, (R-AL), Department of Education nominee Betsy DeVos, and Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC), who has been selected to serve as the head of the Office of Management and Budget.

However, they also plan to fight Health and Human Services nominee Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), labor secretary nominee Andrew Puzder, a restaurant executive, treasury secretary nominee Steve Mnuchin and Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, who has been tapped to head the EPA.

“President-elect Trump is attempting to fill his rigged cabinet with nominees that would break key campaign promises and have made billions off the industries they’d be tasked with regulating,” Schumer said in a Sunday statement. “Any attempt by Republicans to have a series of rushed, truncated hearings before Inauguration Day and before the Congress and public have adequate information on all of them is something Democrats will vehemently resist.”

Yes, apparently, what presidents have generally done is a “series of rushed, truncated hearings.” One also wonders how one “rigs” a cabinet, but I’ll just chalk that one up to Schumer’s verbal infelicity.

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At the very least, when Republicans were being “obstructionist,” they were doing so at the behest of America’s voters, who had returned them to majorities in both houses of Congress. The Democrats have no mandate, no vote of confidence from the American people — nothing at all, really, except an axe to grind.

And that’s the thing — there’s absolutely no intellectual consistency in this move, only ideological expediency. If this had been done to any of President Obama’s nominees, the hue and cry would be deafening. Yet, because Hillary Clinton didn’t win, the Democrats feel perfectly entitled to do this.

This sick opportunism needs to be opposed. The Democrats are standing up for nothing more than the toxic culture of the Washington establishment — and that’s the real obstructionism.

crimethink
24th January 2017, 07:02 AM
https://news.grabien.com/story-dnc-chair-candidates-bash-white-people-racially-charged-foru

Democrats must provide “training” that focuses in part on teaching Americans “how to be sensitive and how to shut their mouths if they are white,” urged the executive director of Idaho’s Democratic Party, Sally Boynton Brown, who is white.

(...)

“It makes me sad that we’re even having that conversation and that tells me that white leaders in our party have failed,” Brown said. “I’m a white woman, I don’t get it. … My job is to listen and be a voice and shut other white people down when they want to interrupt.”

JohnQPublic
24th January 2017, 07:56 AM
Is a Muslim from the Midwest set to take over the Democratic National Committee?

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-is-a-muslim-from-the-midwest-set-to-1478901281-htmlstory.html

He's a Muslim from the heartland and he could be the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota is slowly raking up support from some key figures within the party, such as Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and New York Sen. Charles Schumer, who want him to be the next leader, following the party’s humbling presidential loss earlier this week.

Citing more than 250,000 signatures in support of Ellison on a petition posted to his website, Sanders said the congressman is the future of the party.

"The Democratic Party needs to look itself in the mirror and work tirelessly to become once again the party that working people know will work for their interests," Sanders, who amassed a youthful, liberal following during the Democratic primary, said in a statement. "Keith is one of the most progressive members of Congress, and he was an early supporter of our political revolution."

As a tolerant American I support this COMPLETELY. Yes, let the Democratic party show exactly who they are. This is a bold move and we ought to ENCOURAGE all Democrats to support it. They will certainly reap what they deserve. Once the full house and senate are republican, we may have a chance of reversing some of the damage (though this may not be a panacea either).

crimethink
24th January 2017, 11:30 PM
https://medium.com/theyoungturks/justice-democrats-platform-852246279415#.lh44dt8yg

Justice Democrats Platform

Kyle Kulinski & Cenk Uygur. It’s time to face the facts: the Democratic Party is broken and the corporate, establishment wing of the party is responsible. Republicans now hold most state legislatures, most governorships, the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the presidency. So in 2018, hundreds of Justice Democrats will run a unified campaign to replace every corporate-backed member of Congress and rebuild the party from scratch. This is our plan.

Pass a constitutional amendment to put an end to Washington corruption and bring about election reform.Super PACs should be banned, private donations to politicians and campaigns should be banned, and a clean public financing system should be implemented to end the takeover of our government by corporations and billionaires. Americans deserve free and fair elections — free from the corruption of big money donors. The Supreme Court has effectively legalized bribery. It’s time for an Article 5 convention to take our Democracy back from the brink of Oligarchy. Prior to passing this amendment, all Justice Democrats should reject billionaire and corporate donations when running for office to show the American people we don’t just talk the talk, we walk the walk. Ranked choice voting should also be implemented to make smaller parties a viable option. All provisions of the voting rights act should be reinstated, and gerrymandering for partisan gain should be eliminated.
Re-regulate Wall Street and hold white-collar criminals accountable. Despite engaging in systemic fraud and causing a subprime mortgage meltdown and the great recession, you can count the people from Wall Street who are in prison for their crimes on one hand. It’s time to prosecute the criminals, bring back Glass-Steagall, and re-regulate Wall Street to prevent another crash. Prison is not just for the poor and the middle class anymore. We will have cops on Wall Street, not just Main Street.
End billionaire and corporate tax dodging, fix the system to benefit middle-class and poor people. Corporations dodge $450 billion a year in taxes by using offshore tax havens. We should end this injustice, as well as chain the capital gains tax to the income tax, increase the estate tax, and implement the buffet rule so that no millionaire CEO pays less in taxes than his or her secretary. It’s time for a tax system that benefits the middle-class and the poor, and makes the top 1% and multinational corporations pay their fair share.
Defend Free speech and expression. We support the right to express unpopular opinions without fear of censorship. We support free speech on college campuses. The marketplace of ideas should be embraced. A vibrant debate is healthy for democracy, and we should cherish our first amendment. We also support net neutrality for a free and open internet.
Oppose bigotry. We must speak out against racism, sexism, xenophobia, and all forms of bigotry. Non-discrimination protections that currently apply to race, religion, and gender should be expanded to include the LGBTQ community and the atheist community. Making all Americans equal is not asking for special privileges, it’s asking for the rule of law — justice and equality for all as outlined in the United States Constitution.
Make the minimum wage a living wage and tie it to inflation. This is about justice and basic human decency. If you work hard and you work full time you shouldn’t live in poverty.
Ensure universal healthcare as a right. The United States should catch up to every other modern nation and implement a single-payer, medicare-for-all system. There’s no reason we can’t be #1 in the world instead of #37. It’s time to end the destruction of American healthcare by rapacious, price gouging, for-profit, private health insurance middlemen.
Ensure Universal education as a right. Educating the citizenry of a nation pays dividends in the long run, with the economy getting back much more than is initially put in. Crushing student debt for higher education would no longer burden young men and women trying to improve their lives through hard work. We should strive to have the best education system in the world.
End unnecessary wars and nation building. The United States maintains 800 military bases worldwide at a cost of $100 billion a year, this is money that can be spent at home creating jobs, rebuilding infrastructure, and investing in the future of the people. The disastrous war in Iraq cost trillions, the war in Afghanistan is 15 years in with no end in sight, and we’re currently bombing 7 different countries. We spend more on our military than the next 8 countries combined. Despite countless lives lost and destroyed, terrorism has only gotten worse. It’s time to end the wars and the perverse monetary-incentive structure that makes politicians flippant about sending young men and women to die. Unilateral U.S. military force should only be used as a last resort to defend the nation. The current budget could be cut drastically if we used our department of defense for what it was intended — defending us, instead of waging interventionist wars.
End the failed war on drugs. The goal is legalization, taxation, and regulation. Prohibition only makes drug cartels more powerful, increases crime, and makes drugs more dangerous due to lack of enforced safety standards. What you put in your body is your own business, and your right. A free society should allow individuals to make their own choices about their bodies. While most users are recreational and moderate, rehabilitation and treatment should be provided for people struggling with addiction. Additionally, those serving time for non-violent drug offenses should be pardoned.
Create the new new deal. Our infrastructure gets a grade of D from the Society of Civil Engineers. The government should invest billions in rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, schools, levees, airports etc. There’s no reason why we can’t have the world’s #1 infrastructure.
Create the renewable energy revolution. Scientists are sounding the alarm on climate change. In order to avoid the worst case scenario and a dystopian future we need a massive green revolution. It’s time to drastically and immediately move away from fossil fuels and develop the technologies of the future. This will be a giant boon to both the private and public sector, as well as a necessary response to a global crisis. We can and we must be #1 in sustainable energy production in the world.
Block the TPP and all outsourcing deals that will further damage the middle-class. As a result of NAFTA, CAFTA, PNTR with China and the WTO, Americans have lost millions of decent paying jobs. It’s time to end the race to the bottom and renegotiate these rigged deals that only benefit elites. We should not sacrifice our sovereignty, the only people who are allowed to make laws for the United States should be the American people, not multinational corporations.
End Constitutional overreaches. Ban the NSA from bulk data-collection and warrantless spying. Shut down Guantanamo Bay and all extrajudicial prisons. Prosecute torturers and those who violated the Geneva Conventions, Nuremberg Tribunal, International law and US law. Return habeas corpus and due process, and pardon Edward Snowden. We shouldn’t be leading from behind on human rights, we must be the home of liberty. We should practice the values we preach.
Ban arming human rights violators. We recently gave Saudi Arabia billions in weapons and watched the civilian death toll in their vicious bombing campaign in Yemen tick up. We continue sending Egypt arms as they violently crack down on peaceful protesters. Israel received $38 billion in aid and promptly announced new settlements. The first step to peace is not enabling nations who regularly violate international law. We must be bold enough to stand up to human rights violators who aren’t just our enemies, but our allies. We don’t weaken our allies by holding them accountable, we strengthen them.
Enact common-sense gun regulation. 92% of Americans want expanded background checks, 54% want a ban on assault weapons, and 54% want a ban on high capacity magazines. This should be implemented along with a federal gun buyback program to cut down on the 300+ million firearms in circulation. Over 30,000 Americans die every year from gun violence, including over 10,000 homicides. The time to act is now to address this public health crisis.
Ensure paid vacation time, sick time, maternity leave, childcare. The United States is one of just three countries in the world that doesn’t offer paid maternity leave, the others being Oman and Papua New Guinea. We are the only industrialized nation that doesn’t offer paid vacation time. This should be changed immediately.
Abolish the death penalty. Humans are fallible, we’ll never get the right answer 100% of the time. 4% of the people on death row are not guilty of a crime and have been wrongly convicted. A system that puts innocent people to death is indefensible and should be reformed. We want justice for the American people but killing innocent people on death row is the exact opposite.
Defend and protect women’s rights. We support the Paycheck Fairness Act. We oppose Republican cuts to Planned Parenthood and women’s health clinics all across the country. In 2016 alone, 60 TRAP laws targeting abortion were passed in 19 states. We will vigorously oppose all efforts to dismantle reproductive rights.
Enact police reform. We believe in the core idea of policing — to serve and protect the community. Police are a vital part of American society and that is why it’s so important to reform the system to make it serve all Americans. For-profit policing should be abolished, police training should be retooled to emphasize deescalation tactics, and body cameras should be mandatory on all officers. Furthermore, community oversight boards should be created and broken windows policing should be eliminated. Stop & frisk — which disproportionately targets blacks and latinos 87% of the time — has a 97% failure rate. On top of being discriminatory and ineffective, it’s also unconstitutional and should be ended. Special prosecutors must also be appointed to hold police accountable.

These ideas represent what the Democratic Party was supposed to represent all along. Opinion polls in the United States demonstrate that these policy positions are overwhelmingly popular. Indeed, throughout the industrialized world these ideas are considered moderate. This is a movement about freedom and justice. And it’s a movement by and for working people. If the Democrats refuse to embrace this platform (WTF?! - they did, and lost!), they’ll continue to lose, either to Republicans or to us. The future of the Democratic party is the Justice wing, not the establishment wing.

Dogman
25th January 2017, 03:51 AM
As a tolerant American I support this COMPLETELY. Yes, let the Democratic party show exactly who they are. This is a bold move and we ought to ENCOURAGE all Democrats to support it. They will certainly reap what they deserve. Once the full house and senate are republican, we may have a chance of reversing some of the damage (though this may not be a panacea either). Interesting, but history will in time show the pendulum will swing the other way big time. Anyone that study's history should know humans in many ways do not learn from mistakes of the past after abt the third generation. Plus the faster people get pissed the faster the changes will happen.

Fact !

Politically the repubs are in control, now, ignoring that ..

1. sorry to say not everyone votes, and the few out of the minority that do vote swing things.

2. History shows because of that this country swings like a pendulum from the left and or right.

3. I bet anyone here that the idiots in charge now will piss off a bunch of people and because of that many that normally could be called the silent majority will chime in, during the next election cycles.

4. It is called backlash, and the repubs are setting themselves up for a huge one. Mostly because trump won the electoral collage but not the popular vote and the repubs are treating it like they have a mandate and will piss off most of the still sleeping masses.

5. Backlash is a motherfucker, but history shows it is a normal human thing, wash and repeat as cycles go. look at history it will prove me right!

6. I am enjoying seeing the shakeup, we as a nation needed it, big time .

7. I also will enjoy watching the repubs unless they are careful have their collective asses handed to them in the mid turms and primary in four years, because they will over reach and piss off the same silent non normal voters.

I as I have said am the middle of both the hard right and left. it is called being independent and do not blind myself to any party's rhetoric.

Did I mention that trump is doing a good thing? Because he is shaking the tree, which needed it big time. And in doing so I guarantee will wake up they that (most people) live in their personal bubbles of family, work and core of friends that normally do not vote to do so.

Did I mention backlash?


I think time will tell and show that I am not far from wrong.

Most here are vocal, but most people also do not vote nor care as long as they can live in their bubbles, but the hazard is you mess with their bubbles and wake up.

kady bar the door it will be entertaining, because in the long run the majority do rule in the long run, the minority get their shots in in between.

History has proven this,

Hope I live long enough to ether be proven wrong or right.

I do think another world war is in the books the only question is with who. And I just may live long enough to see that come to pass.

interestin times

Gots popcorn?

Twisted Titan
25th January 2017, 04:41 AM
I agree...

All I can say is this: The wise person is using this narrow window of time to dubble, down on getting supplies and financial resources.

I haven't stop.

I'm just enjoying this first class shit, show

Dogman
25th January 2017, 04:53 AM
I agree...

All I can say is this: The wise person is using this narrow window of time to dubble, down on getting supplies and financial resources.

I haven't stop.

I'm just enjoying this first class shit, show Despite what all here may think, I do think that mostly when the backlash happens that over all the change will be blood free. Tho there will be a small minority that will shead blood, but they will not win in the long run or short.

As far as preps they are always good to have but for a dam fact cycle them, use the oldest and replace what is used.

Who knows !

Just do not grab and store any and not check them , because if you really need them in time you may have a nasty surprise its one of murphy's laws.

Fact !

Today is my birthday I turned 66 and murphy is a very real fact of life.

Peace.

Neuro
25th January 2017, 05:19 AM
Happy birthday Charles!

Dogman
25th January 2017, 05:22 AM
Happy birthday Charles!


Thanks shit head...!

;D

Neuro
25th January 2017, 05:49 AM
Thanks shit head...!

;D

I hope your day is better than you deserve! ;D

Dogman
25th January 2017, 09:55 AM
I hope your day is better than you deserve! ;D


Like wise !

;D

I still hold to the repubs will over reach and piss of many and , politically will end in a blood bath.

The republican party is self imploding in general and they that hold to trump will pay the price in the long run that is not to their liking.

Thing is every day, month, year people in general are drawing together and what ultimately will happen, hell dude I have no crystal ball but I do think if we survive the next few years , throwing a huge war in the mix, china? Russia ? both ?

They that can still breathe may inherent a good world as long as you ignore the tendency of glowing in the dark.

Some here remind me of a pimple on the south end of a camel heading north...

;D

Twisted Titan
25th January 2017, 10:18 AM
Happy birthday Brother.

Today is my Mom's as well.

Double PLUS Good

Dogman
25th January 2017, 10:26 AM
Happy birthday Brother.

Today is my Mom's as well.
breathe
Double PLUS GoodThanks bro.

1951 myself and seen bunch of changes and none for the good mostly, tho good where it really counts. In terms of different peoples on this mud ball growing slowly together.

Go back far enough on the family tree, we are all cousins !

Now a days a simple blood draw and then a genetic map can be created.

We all are related on this mud ball we call home.



Shit growing old and all is total shit, but hay it is what it is..