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madfranks
18th November 2016, 12:46 PM
Really interesting strategy, what do you think?

http://www.garynorth.com/public/15899.cfm

Donald Trump used a visual image for "seal off the border." He used a wall.

He isn't going to build a wall. He will not ask Congress for the funding.

He doesn't need to.

The border can be policed by satellites and a few thousand low-cost drones. The technology is cheap. It is available now.

These are cheap drones that carry no missiles. They only carry cameras. There can be night drones and day drones. They can observe what is going on for miles.

Put up 1,000 drones at all times, day and night. Aim their cameras 10 or 20 miles south of the border. Is there a truck coming north toward a desolate area? Meet it with troops.

There will be enough troops on the cheap fenced border to head off 80% of the trucks. If 80% of the trucks can't get their cargo through, the wholesale immigrant business is finished.

Post a thousand troops and drones at the high-crossing areas.

The strategy here is to eliminate the wholesale immigration business. Make the immigrants walk to the border in remote areas. This will drastically reduce the crossings. Move the immigrants from wholesale to retail.

MAKE A DEAL WITH THE COYOTES

Coyotes are the people who take money from desperate would-be illegal immigrants to take them across the border in trucks. They are middlemen.

I propose that Trump make them two-way middlemen.

A coyote brings a truckload of people to the border. On the American side of the border is a border patrol officer who is assigned to an Army unit. He makes the truck driver an offer: "Take them back. Here is $25,000, cash."

Yes, I know: pretty soon there will be trucks loaded with fake immigrants. So, run the initial program for long enough to get the word out: "Don't pay anyone to take you across the border. The gringos have cooked up a deal with the coyotes. The coyotes will take your money. Then they will take the gringos' money to bring you right back." Six months will do it.

If traffic starts back up, re-start the program.

Keep the immigrants on the Mexican side of the border. This way, there will be no expensive court hearings on our side of the border. There will be no ACLU attorney coming to the defense of illegal immigrants in the middle of the night in the South Texas desert. The immigrants will not cross the border. Mexico will retain jurisdiction.

Station enough troops and drones on the border to seal it off.

Better yet, arrange for the coyotes to bring the would-be immigrants to established check points. No muss, no fuss.

But, you say, no sensible coyote would do this. It would kill his business. So, stage it. Hire some Mexican Americans in South Texas to do a fake crossing at a fake border. Rent an old truck. Have an actor pay the "driver" a wad of bills. Use a dash cam. Make it look real. Then post the video. Do one of these a week. Use the same two or three trucks.

Have you ever seen Wag the Dog?

Trump can supply the video crew. He is a master of reality TV.

Keep the drones flying. Let the coyotes know that they will not be able to get their cargoes across the border. "We can see you coming."

Maybe a truck turns around and heads home. The driver does not get $25,000. Word will get out: "Don't pay this guy."

Maybe the driver stops. He gets his $25,000. He drives them back. Word will get out. "Don't pay this guy."

Maybe he unloads them on his side of the border. He gets $25,000. He leaves them. Word will get out. "Don't pay this guy."

If he crosses the border, he gets no money. He loses his truck. He gets no food or water. He is sent back on foot with the others. "Have a nice walk with your friends."

The people who get unloaded will be given two choices: (1) put on a GPS tracking device and start walking back to civilization with food and water supplied by the Americans, or else (2) don't put on the device and get no food or water. There is this threat: "Take off the device before you get to town A, and the next time we catch you trying to cross illegally, you will get no food and water. And we will catch you. Take the device to our local exchange store, and they will give you $100 cash." Of course, they are photographed at the border. Their faces go into a facial recognition data base. If they get caught again, they get no food or water for the hike back. "Buy food and water from your buddy."

Why the exchange store? The store will advertise locally. "If you get caught when our drone system catches the truck that takes you to the border, and if the driver leaves you behind, you can get $100 for the GPS device you will get when you return from the border. We'll make sure you are in our 'caught trying to cross the border' facial recognition system. Then you will get paid."

Word will get out to the coyotes' customer base.

Post Spanish language videos on YouTube. The viewers will see the drones, the troops, and the money exchanges. "Warning: the U.S. government has an arrangement with the coyotes. It pays the coyotes to bring people right back at a profit of $25,000 per truckload. You will pay $1,000 for a one-day round-trip visit to the border. The coyotes will make money both ways."

Put up videos of families walking away from the fence in the middle of the desert. "This is what happens if you try to cross the border in a truck. The drones always spot the trucks. You will be greeted by American troops. Save your money."

Goodbye, wholesale immigrant market. Hello, individual families on foot.

BETA TEST THIS BY LATE APRIL

This would be cheap to implement. The beta-testing could be operational within three months of Trump's inauguration.

Put a bird colonel in charge of this. Offer him two stars if he gets it operational by Christmas, but only one star if it's a day late. Trump can make this offer on January 21. He can ask for volunteers. He will get lots of volunteers by January 23. By February 1, there will be piles of applications.

This colonel would be granted the authortity of a four-star general for this project until December 25, 2017.

The colonel will find holes in the system. Most of them can be plugged. He could then ramp up the program by October 31. It would be working by December 25.

Give the program until December 31, 2018 to work. By then, the flow of illegal aliens will be down by 80%.

Priority for Army promotions would be given to successful captains and majors who cut down immigration rates. The statistics would be simple: "Reduce the immigrants in your sector by 20% this year, and you go to the top five of the short list for promotion." The Mexican border would be the fastest track to stars on the shoulder.

Word would get out. Fast.

CONCLUSIONS

Could Trump do this unilaterally? Of course. He is Commander-in-Chief. Paul Ryan isn't. Mitch McConnell isn't.

Trump doesn't need a wall. He needs only the will.

EE_
18th November 2016, 12:59 PM
We need a wall, period! What no one has mentioned, what if there is a major catastrophe in Mexico, a major earthquake, or financial collapse.
What if millions flee Mexico all at once and head to the United States. How would we stop the flow of millions? Just look at Europe where millions are migrating all at once from Syria...not to mention Israel. European countries are all building walls. Walls work

Glass
18th November 2016, 07:26 PM
unfortunately once the flow starts it's hard to stop. So walls yes. Europes problem is Africans not Syrians. Calling them Syrians is a cover so people think its Assad when it's actually neo colonialism in Africa. Ultimately stopping the neo cons of all flavours will solve the root problems.

Hitch
18th November 2016, 08:06 PM
It's an idea we could do while building the wall at the same time. I like it. My only suggestion, is regarding the coyotes. Don't give them $25,000, give them like $5000 to go back. They don't have a choice, you just want them to accept something to make the point they are paid.

Plus, send some illegals we've rounded up here with them. They try to get 10 illegals across the border, they come back with 20 illegals. That's a pretty big failure, it would make them look really bad.

PatColo
18th November 2016, 09:33 PM
The "Trump Wall" is a political campaign distraction. Remember the latin american "children" crisis from 2-3 years ago? The "children" who photos suggested were almost all young adult men? The ones (((tptb))) were advertising for in LatAm, picking up & transporting into usa then ditributing across the country? Same MO as they're doing with their EU "syrian refugee crisis"??

The same (((ptb))) will keep importing their kalergi plan migrants in any of a dozen ways, ships planes trains tunnels etc. It's bigger than Trump & his wall.

Cebu_4_2
18th November 2016, 09:56 PM
The "Trump Wall" is a political campaign distraction. Remember the latin american "children" crisis from 2-3 years ago? The "children" who photos suggested were almost all young adult men? The ones (((tptb))) were advertising for in LatAm, picking up & transporting into usa then ditributing across the country? Same MO as they're doing with their EU "syrian refugee crisis"??

The same (((ptb))) will keep importing their kalergi plan migrants in any of a dozen ways, ships planes trains tunnels etc. It's bigger than Trump & his wall.


Trump is bigger than the wall and your bullshit Pat.

PatColo
18th November 2016, 10:29 PM
Trump is bigger than the wall and your bullshit Pat.

Maybe u Trumpaholics are right; Kalergi-plan (http://nonalignedmedia.com/tag/kalergi-plan/) is just another anti-Shlomo-ic canard. :(

I'll take a dozen Trumpium pills, chase em with a big bottle of Trumpahol, and let you know what I've decided in the morning. :D

crimethink
19th November 2016, 02:59 AM
Trump is bigger than the wall and your bullshit Pat.

Unless Trump is immortal, he is just a man...like John Kennedy.

Spectrism
19th November 2016, 06:16 AM
Unless Trump is immortal, he is just a man...like John Kennedy.


You really must stop this whining and carrying on as a child. Name one viable candidate that you would prefer as president over Trump.

palani
19th November 2016, 08:07 AM
what if there is a major catastrophe in Mexico, a major earthquake, or financial collapse.
In terms of external debt U.S. is number 1 while Mexico is 31st.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

What if the Yellowstone caldera blows and Mexico is faced with the prospect of millions of U.S. welfare cases crossing the opposite direction?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera

crimethink
19th November 2016, 10:01 AM
You really must stop this whining and carrying on as a child. Name one viable candidate that you would prefer as president over Trump.

There you go again. Spectrism insists on playing Mystery Babylon's game. "Viable candidate" = candidate who does the work of the world, that is, the Devil.

Who's side are you really on? When you dance with the Devil...

crimethink
19th November 2016, 10:03 AM
The "Digital Wall" will be expanded to Total Information Awareness over all American subjects. Oh, wait, never mind, it's already here.

A "Digital Wall" already exists for the War on some Drugs.

Spectrism
19th November 2016, 11:17 AM
There you go again. Spectrism insists on playing Mystery Babylon's game. "Viable candidate" = candidate who does the work of the world, that is, the Devil.

Who's side are you really on? When you dance with the Devil...

You had no good answer so you took the route of accusing one of the brethren. If I am right and true, you have placed a hand on one of my Father's anointed. Tell us how it works out. You will know soon.




The "Digital Wall" will be expanded to Total Information Awareness over all American subjects. Oh, wait, never mind, it's already here.

A "Digital Wall" already exists for the War on some Drugs.

You really need to think before posting. 2 messages within a couple minutes... could have been one. You are showing signs of delusion and stupidity. Please stop, You are embarrassing yourself. If you must continue, you do so on your own volition entirely.

JohnQPublic
19th November 2016, 11:25 AM
In terms of external debt U.S. is number 1 while Mexico is 31st.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

What if the Yellowstone caldera blows and Mexico is faced with the prospect of millions of U.S. welfare cases crossing the opposite direction?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera

In practical terms (short term at least), the size of supportable debt of a country is proportional to its military strength.

Spectrism
19th November 2016, 12:34 PM
In practical terms (short term at least), the size of supportable debt of a country is proportional to its military strength.


Yes- and it appears we are about tapped out. We cannot continue on the path we have been traveling for 30 years. End of the line is here.

crimethink
19th November 2016, 03:54 PM
You had no good answer so you took the route of accusing one of the brethren.


Trump has given no evidence he is in Christ. Nor any evidence he even understands what Christianity really is.




If I am right and true, you have placed a hand on one of my Father's anointed.


I have said you have set up Trump as a false messiah, and here, you admit I was correct: "Father's anointed"? Trump is no Christ. Christ or Messiah meaning "the Anointed (One)," of course.

In essence, you have just made an abominable statement equivalent to John Hagee denying the Christ.




Tell us how it works out. You will know soon.


And so will you.





You really need to think before posting. 2 messages within a couple minutes... could have been one.


Getting petty now, are we? My style has been known for years. I don't like combining posts because that makes it hard(er) to follow.




You are showing signs of delusion and stupidity. Please stop, You are embarrassing yourself. If you must continue, you do so on your own volition entirely.

LOL - says he who claims Trump is a "messiah" (anointed one).

Spectrism
19th November 2016, 04:51 PM
Trump has given no evidence he is in Christ. Nor any evidence he even understands what Christianity really is.

Which past president has given evidence that he was christ? Please don't insult me and other readers with such a stupid argument.




I have said you have set up Trump as a false messiah, and here, you admit I was correct: "Father's anointed"? Trump is no Christ. Christ or Messiah meaning "the Anointed (One)," of course.


Dude, are you on drugs? I was not talking about Trump. If you can't figure out that you are slandering me and I was talking about MY position with MY Father, you are quite a dim wit. There are different ministries that we are anointed to perform. And the anointing or commissioning of one for that ministry is of the Spirit if it is a legitimate ministry.



In essence, you have just made an abominable statement equivalent to John Hagee denying the Christ.

Quite the opposite. I am of the ministry of my Messiah in the order of Melchizedek. If you would like to challenge that, go right ahead. I need not defend myself or the one I serve. You can face His answers any time you think you are ready.



LOL - says he who claims Trump is a "messiah" (anointed one).
As stated earlier, I was referring to me. You ASSume many wrong things. But to allay your concerns about Trump, let me clarify that there are many anointings besides the role of Messiah.

Isa 45:1 So says Jehovah to His anointed, to Cyrus, whom I have seized by his right hand, to subdue nations before him. Yea, I will open the loins of kings, to open the two leaved doors before him, and the gates shall not be shut.
Isa 45:2 I will go before you and make hills level; I will tear apart the bronze doors, and cut the iron bars in two.
Isa 45:3 And I will give you the treasures of darkness, even treasures in secret places, that you may know that I am Jehovah, who calls you by your name, the God of Israel.
Isa 45:4 For My servant Jacob's sake, and for Israel My elect, I entitle you. I name you, but you do not know Me.

You really should try to read the bible someday.

crimethink
19th November 2016, 07:15 PM
Which past president has given evidence that he was christ?


That's not what I said. Try again. I said "in" Christ. As in, a real Christian.




Dude, are you on drugs? I was not talking about Trump. If you can't figure out that you are slandering me and I was talking about MY position with MY Father, you are quite a dim wit. There are different ministries that we are anointed to perform. And the anointing or commissioning of one for that ministry is of the Spirit if it is a legitimate ministry.


Wow, you are an egomaniac. Trump isn't the false christ...you are! Again, wow.




Quite the opposite. I am of the ministry of my Messiah in the order of Melchizedek. If you would like to challenge that, go right ahead. I need not defend myself or the one I serve. You can face His answers any time you think you are ready.


Since you have made demonstrably false statements, it is completely reasonable to question just how "anointed" you are.




You really should try to read the bible someday.

Since you are unable to bring yourself to use the title of the Savior that Yahweh selected for Him for most of Christendom - Christ(os) - I have to presume this is your "bible":

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8a/New_JPS.jpg/220px-New_JPS.jpg

Modified to suit the "traditions of the Elders," of course.

Cebu_4_2
19th November 2016, 07:30 PM
Fucking retarded Fred. My God you lost it man. I used to listen to your views but now it's just garbage across the board.

crimethink
19th November 2016, 07:57 PM
Fucking retarded Fred. My God you lost it man. I used to listen to your views but now it's just garbage across the board.

What's it like going through life, having no identity of your own, having to latch on to the latest celebrity to give you a reason for living?