This i not heart warming. It is heart burning.

[JohnQPublic]

Ecumenism at its "best"


https://youtu.be/Zrs8uoDmiDk

[Horn]

later the kneepads were used for sodomy in the confessional

[JohnQPublic]

later the kneepads were used for sodomy in the confessional

How was it?

[Shami-Amourae]

That settles it, open the borders now.

[Shami-Amourae]

>rabbi still won't meet with imam
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/74/1385744909044.gif

[Shami-Amourae]

later the kneepads were used for sodomy in the confessional


http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1479/68/1479686676017.jpg

>priests delivery exploded

literally exploding knees

[Horn]

what was with all the touching, didnt you get that homoohobic feelin shoot down yur spjne in that video?

[midnight rambler]

That Amazon logo is phallic.

[Twisted Titan]

Neither one of them know The True and Living God

One worships The pagan moon god of The Nabetians from Petra
The other worships the supposed Vicar of Christ from the Great whore of Rome.


Its makes sense that they have much in common.

Both are in deep error.

[ximmy]

their kinship is in enjoying boy butt rape...

I recently saw the documentary on the Dancing Boys of Afghanistan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AerarcL5SU). It exposed an ancient custom called "bacha bazi" (boy for play), where rich men buy boys as young as 11 from impoverished families for sexual slavery. The boys are dressed in women's clothes and made to dance and sing at parties, before being carted away by the men for sex. Owning boys is considered a symbol of status and one former warlord boasted of having up to 3,000 boys over a 20-year period, even though he was married, with two sons. The involvement of the police and inaction of the government means this form of child prostitution is widespread.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/photo-e1409724154433.jpg
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/09/03/pakistani-muslim-men-dont-think-there-is-anything-wrong-with-raping-young-boys-very-young-boys/

Ijaz, a bus conductor in his early twenties, spends his days travelling through the bustling streets of Peshawar in northern Pakistan, working hard to scrape a living. Instead of going home come nightfall, he, and many others, spend their time with street children, paying them as little as 75p for sex and when they have no money, brutally abusing them.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty

[JohnQPublic]

The other worships the supposed Vicar of Christ from the Great whore of Rome.



Sorry TT but that is utter nonsense. I am Catholic and I know who I worship. I worship ONLY the Son of God, Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, as well as the larger Triune God- Father, Son and Holy Ghost. No other person, entity or thing is worshipped. Who do you worship?

[Neuro]

>rabbi still won't meet with imam
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/74/1385744909044.gif

There seems to be a problem with the Kosher oven. Perhaps the rabbi can go and inspect it?

http://mrc-static.s3.amazonaws.com/Newsbusters/static/2010/08/Roseanne%20Barr%20Says%20Nazi%20Leaders%20Like%20H itler,%20Goebbels%20and%20Himmler%20Were%20Jewish. jpg

[Twisted Titan]

Sorry TT but that is utter nonsense. I am Catholic and I know who I worship. I worship ONLY the Son of God, Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, as well as the larger Triune God- Father, Son and Holy Ghost. No other person, entity or thing is worshipped. Who do you worship?



If you are a catholic a true,true TRUE catholic then you must recognize the Pope and his Papal authority which has a litany of blasphemies that stink to high heaven lets just review a few shall we?

There is no salvation for anyone outside of Mother Church anybody who says otherwise is a anathema( accursed)
The pope is infaliable and can make no mistakes
He can alter prior scripture if he deems it appropriate
Mary is raised to the level of a Goddess and taught that she is a co-reedemer with jesus christ
They believe and encourage that you pray to saints for particular needs ie.(st anthony when you lose things)
You are allowed and encouraged to bow before graven images
A priest (whom you called father) is given the power to absolve a person of their sin
You are taught their is a place call purgatory

Jesus said i am the way,truth and the life no one comes to the father but by me
Jesus said heaven and earth will pass away but my word will remain and it changes not.
Jesus was the only person that could accept worship (no mary)
Jesus was the only person that could forgive sin ( no priest)
The mother church altered the 10 commandments by removing the one about making graven images
Jesus said after death comes the judgment their is no limbo.


I stand by my orginal charges that i level against the one who blasphemes The King of Kings.

[crimethink]

If you are a catholic a true,true TRUE catholic then you must recognize the Pope and his Papal authority which has a litany of blasphemies that stink to high heaven lets just review a few shall we?

There is no salvation for anyone outside of Mother Church anybody who says otherwise is a anathema( accursed)
The pope is infaliable and can make no mistakes
He can alter prior scripture if he deems it appropriate
Mary is raised to the level of a Goddess and taught that she is a co-reedemer with jesus christ
They believe and encourage that you pray to saints for particular needs ie.(st anthony when you lose things)
You are allowed and encouraged to bow before graven images
A priest (whom you called father) is given the power to absolve a person of their sin
You are taught their is a place call purgatory

Jesus said i am the way,truth and the life no one comes to the father but by me
Jesus said heaven and earth will pass away but my word will remain and it changes not.
Jesus was the only person that could accept worship (no mary)
Jesus was the only person that could forgive sin ( no priest)
The mother church altered the 10 commandments by removing the one about making graven images
Jesus said after death comes the judgment their is no limbo.


I stand by my orginal charges that i level against the one who blasphemes The King of Kings.

Do you have an actual source for the allegations? I have several serious issues with Catholic doctrine, but most condemnation of Catholic doctrine is from wacko/kook sites, not actually verified positions of the pre-Vatican II church.

Further, there isn't a human-organized church on Earth that doesn't have error in its doctrines and practices. That's one reason I don't "go to church."

The focus is on Jesus Christ the God and Man. If someone does, indeed, "worship" the Pope or Mary, that is grave error. But if the first is adhered to, the most basic qualification for salvation is met.

[JohnQPublic]

If you are a catholic a true,true TRUE catholic then you must recognize the Pope and his Papal authority which has a litany of blasphemies that stink to high heaven lets just review a few shall we?

...


I stand by my orginal charges that i level against the one who blasphemes The King of Kings.

Most of this is misinformation.

There is no salvation for anyone outside of Mother Church anybody who says otherwise is a anathema( accursed)
This is true. The Catholic church considers most Christian sects as falling inside the Church albeit defective in some ways.

The pope is infaliable and can make no mistakes
Completely wrong. Popes have been corrected. There are certain very specific cases where infallibility is presumed, but this is far from a general situation. Infallibility has been invoked as few as two or three times throughout history.

He can alter prior scripture if he deems it appropriate
Scriptures can never be altered.

Mary is raised to the level of a Goddess and taught that she is a co-reedemer with jesus christ
Both points completely wrong. There is a cult that claims the latter, but this is not Catholic doctrine.

They believe and encourage that you pray to saints for particular needs ie.(st anthony when you lose things)
Prayer is not worship. It is like me calling you on the phone for advice. And this applies only to saints.

You are allowed and encouraged to bow before graven images
Wrong. Images are just there to remind us of whom we are bowing to. We do not bow to the images. The images are not necessary.

A priest (whom you called father) is given the power to absolve a person of their sin
A priest is the vehicle through which Jesus forgives using the power of Matthew 18:18, "Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven."

You are taught their is a place call purgatory
Purgatory is part of doctrine, but not well defined. It is presumed to be for theological reasons. The presumption is if you die in mortal sin, it's off to hell.


Jesus said i am the way,truth and the life no one comes to the father but by me
Agreed.

Jesus said heaven and earth will pass away but my word will remain and it changes not.
Agreed.

Jesus was the only person that could accept worship (no mary)
Agreed along with the Triune God (Father, Son, Holy Ghost).

Jesus was the only person that could forgive sin ( no priest)
Agreed.

The mother church altered the 10 commandments by removing the one about making graven images
The Catholic Church has all 10 commandments including no graven images (EX 20:4,Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth)

Jesus said after death comes the judgment their is no limbo.
Limbo is not purgatory. Limbo is a more speculative theological idea. Where did Jesus go for 3 days after crucifixion? I am sure it was not the Hell where the condemned are (Apostle's creed: "he descended into hell")

Keep in mind the doctrine of divide and conquer. Christians especially should stand together in the face of evil.

[Twisted Titan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkhcc-spRgo&feature=youtube_gdata_player


This is one lecture by a walter veith it talks about how rome moved the sabbath from saturday to the "lord day" to sunday it was a direct challenge to his authority.

Mr vieth has done a ton and i mean a ton of lectures concerning the origins of the catholiscim and how it rooted paganis and baal worships ect.

But what i most admire about the man is that he does very little talking my about 5-10% if that. The majority of his lecture comes from official catholic sources and cathecthscim.their news papers and books so you can read it for yourself in black and white and his source for quotes is always cited.


I ecourage you to check out a few vids and see if the man is lying or mis quoting

[JohnQPublic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkhcc-spRgo&feature=youtube_gdata_player


This is one lecture by a walter veith it talks about how rome moved the sabbath from saturday to the "lord day" to sunday it was a direct challenge to his authority.

...

Are you 7th Day Adventist, TT? All Christian Churches practically accept Romans and other parts of Scriptures (i.e., Pauline and Petrine letters) after the Gospels- except the Adventists. The Lutherans, Anglicans, Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, etc. all celebrate on Sunday. This also comes from the authority of Christ Matthew 18:18, "Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.".

I see the Adventists rejections of the letters of Paul and Peter as Judaizing. The Judaizers of the time felt that one must follow the Mosaic law in order to follow Christ, but Paul and Peter and the early Church rejected that. My understanding is that they specifically changed the day from Saturday to Sunday to diffentiate themselves from the Synagogue and Temple practices. Keep in mind that ALL of Christianity celebrated on the Lord's day up to the Adventists in the early 1800s. I suspect this also as the reason Adventist medicine (and the Adventists have made medicine their mission) still promotes circumcision; though they may have secularized it into a medical reason.

God Bless TT. Have a great Thanksgiving.

[crimethink]

walter veith

Vieth is a Seventh-Day Adventist.

I am quite favorable towards Adventists, as I am of Catholics, but many have considered Adventism to be a "non-Christian cult" as much so as Catholicism. Some of the SDA doctrines do not match what is taught in the Bible. Most Adventists believe theirs is the "remnant church," meaning those outside of it are not within Christ's Church.

In short, he's not in the best of positions to be criticizing someone else's Christian faith and beliefs.

Finally: don't believe everything you see and hear in a YouTube video. Check out the verifiable facts for yourself.

[crimethink]

Are you 7th Day Adventist, TT? All Christian Churches practically accept Romans and other parts of Scriptures (i.e., Pauline and Petrine letters) after the Gospels- except the Adventists. The Lutherans, Anglicans, Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, etc. all celebrate on Sunday. This also comes from the authority of Christ Matthew 18:18, "Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.".

I see the Adventists rejections of the letters of Paul and Peter as Judaizing. The Judaizers of the time felt that one must follow the Mosaic law in order to follow Christ, but Paul and Peter and the early Church rejected that. My understanding is that they specifically changed the day from Saturday to Sunday to diffentiate themselves from the Synagogue and Temple practices. Keep in mind that ALL of Christianity celebrated on the Lord's day up to the Adventists in the early 1800s. I suspect this also as the reason Adventist medicine (and the Adventists have made medicine their mission) still promotes circumcision; though they may have secularized it into a medical reason.

God Bless TT. Have a great Thanksgiving.

Personally, I believe the Sabbath remains Saturday, but do not criticize those who believe God allowed it to be changed to Sunday to honor the Resurrection. And I certainly don't accept in the least the SDA position (held by some) that "Sunday Sabbath Keeping" is the "Mark of the Beast."

[JohnQPublic]

Personally, I believe the Sabbath remains Saturday, but do not criticize those who believe God allowed it to be changed to Sunday to honor the Resurrection. And I certainly don't accept in the least the SDA position (held by some) that "Sunday Sabbath Keeping" is the "Mark of the Beast."

To be fair to the main SDA church, I think it is only splinter groups that take it to the extreme level. On the other hand I wonder if the main SDA church has not morphed into a tax shield for SDA medical operations.

So, do you reject all books of Scriptures after the Gospels? Do you see then that these books actually show the beginning actions of the Catholic Church (i.e., removing the necessity of circumcision, changing the day of the Sabbath, etc.)?

[Twisted Titan]

Im not SDA i
In did digging into Ms Eddy White that lady was a first class charalatan on par with joseph smith and would have been stoned to death if she was alive in the time of moses

I have never seen mr vieth preach anything but jesus in his lectures but if i ever saw him pushing the many books that ms white authored as told to her by a angle and proclaimed they are to be taken as a continuation of the gospels i would drop him like a sack of potatoes

He still does a extensive amount of through research that i cant refute.

[Twisted Titan]

As to my Faith

I recognize myself as a Hebrew Israelite
I strive to keep Yahwehs Commandments ,laws and statues

I am NOT one of those idiots that dress like bozo the clown on street corners screaming that the white man (aka esua) is the devil.

I recognize The Tribe of Israel That is the very Apple of Yahweh's Eye. Please note that abomination that occupies the lands of ancient Palestine is NOT Israel.

I study The Torah The Psalms and The letters of Paul as much as possible to expand my Knowledge of The Father.


I am a much happier man since the scales have slowly been removed from eyes and the blockage in my ears.

[JohnQPublic]

TT, Messianic Judaism ( or something like it)?