would you guess ET/alien life influences our earthly affairs?

[PatColo]

Anon poll, just curious where the gsus brain trust comes down on this "timeless question."

I take it as 'given' that none of us know for-sure-for-sure, even if you've had extraordinary experience(s) which swayed your opinion strongly. I'm just asking, what would your FIRST GUESS BE, based on the totality of your life experience & information/opinion consumption? So notice there's no "I don't know" poll option, which I'd expect to be most people's proper answer.

[PatColo]

I guess what prompted me to post this poll was stumbling on this little 13 min docu-- it seems this decades long ET/disclosure activist really pinned his hopes on a president killary, all based on an apparent dog-whistle or two about imminent "Disclosure." So I guess he's been crying in his beer since 11/9.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5YmOsGBR51o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YmOsGBR51o&t=0s

[midnight rambler]

Absolutely yes however imo that influence is nominal because *some* 'force' is keeping these exta-dimensionals in check.

[crimethink]

Define "ET/alien life."

If you mean creatures from another planet - NO.

If you mean creatures from another dimension - or what Jacques Vallee and John Keel infer are "demons" of olden times - then YES.

[PatColo]

Obligatory clip associating the alien question with the dinjoo-nuffin problem, lol. :D

This is Scott Robert's first video from 2007; outlines the question/problem well. 10 mins:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m0vFHhKOcII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0vFHhKOcII&t=0s

[JohnQPublic]

I would suspect any "aliens" to be of demonic origin; though I can NOT rule out ETs absolutely.

[Neuro]

Obligatory clip associating the alien question with the dinjoo-nuffin problem, lol. :D

This is Scott Robert's first video from 2007; outlines the question/problem well. 10 mins:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m0vFHhKOcII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0vFHhKOcII&t=0s

It really doesn't matter if the "people" who tries to destroy us is from across the galaxy or across the ocean. However if they are from across the galaxy we have no chance! So that is the best enough reason for them to make us believe in space aliens.

[PatColo]

Define "ET/alien life."

If you mean creatures from another planet - NO.

If you mean creatures from another dimension - or what Jacques Vallee and John Keel infer are "demons" of olden times - then YES.

Ya I guess trying to better define "ET/alien life" was to be an inevitable problem here. Can get pretty esoteric.

I'd say, accepting for arguments sake the round earth/ milky way/ etc paradigm our malevolent ovorlords teach us, do living beings who don't originate from "earth" influence our earthly affairs?

Not sure if that ^ frames the question tightly enough... not familiar with Vallee/Keel's "dimensional" theories.

[Hitch]

Define "ET/alien life."

If you mean creatures from another planet - NO.

If you mean creatures from another dimension - or what Jacques Vallee and John Keel infer are "demons" of olden times - then YES.

I agree with this, only to add that there's much more than just demons, and angels, etc. Do I believe there are aliens from other planets? Yes, but a big NO on if they influence us on earth.

[midnight rambler]

I posted this article by Catherine Austin Fitts previously, I think it not only possible but very likely.

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2016/09/21/former-wall-st-banker-suggests-global-debt-may-not-owned-humans/

[midnight rambler]

I agree with this, only to add that there's much more than just demons, and angels, etc. Do I believe there are aliens from other planets? Yes, but a big NO on if they influence us on earth.

By merely observing us they influence our 'reality', that much is completely inescapable. However I suspect there is much more at play. There are definitely 'good' influences as well as 'bad' influences.

[PatColo]

I would suspect any "aliens" to be of demonic origin; though I can rule out ETs absolutely.

You CAN rule out ETs? As in off-planet life forms? How so?

And these demons... do you imagine them to have physical bodies as we "humans" think of them... bodies we can see/hear/smell/taste/touch, and perhaps harm/kill? It does appear that our malevolent overlords worship some demonic entity, or it "owns them." Pizzagate/etc?! Or their satanic ritual abuse/etc rings are just a pragmatic means of keeping TPTB's tools in line.

Separately, YT search "Disclosure Project" for a lengthy docu I guess produced by Steven Greer. I understand it swayed many ET-influence believers towards their beliefs ever since. Not sure if it's 2 or 4 hours, based on my varying YT search results. Maybe it's been extended since its initial release? I gave the docu about 1/2 hour several years ago; got the general idea & got bored & haven't returned to it. IIRC it's a series of "highly credentialed people" speaking about their experiences, but the dilemma was, with our alphabet intel complex being so vast, how can I know these people are sincere or whether the whole docu is another agenda-driven population control charade ?

http://www​.disclosureproject.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer

[Horn]

any alien would have to be a complete desperado to even try.

more like a bum alien if anything...

[singular_me]

funny... from another dimension: YES... aliens from another planet: NO

makes no sense.

Depending on which researcher one listens to, there are 9 or 12 dimensions (from sub atomic particles to etheric life forms) and man is 3 or 5 levels below the etheric life foms. Above etheric life forms, there is Pure Consciousness, and above that God's Mind comprising the All That Is or I am that I am.

[PatColo]

I posted this article by Catherine Austin Fitts previously, I think it not only possible but very likely.

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2016/09/21/former-wall-st-banker-suggests-global-debt-may-not-owned-humans/

I think Fitts may have touched on that in this 46m interview published 10.19.16:

Catherine Austin Fitts "Financial Crimes & Currency Collapse Serve The Global Depopulation Agenda."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KVmpnVNmX9g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVmpnVNmX9g&t=0s


I recall she also had a print interview published at a .co.nz site I forgot the domain name of now, maybe a dozen+ years ago, where she basically said she was told by a long time Washington insider that aliens do walk among us in human form, and was asked if she wanted to meet one, to which she replied no.

G. Ed Griffin also published an article at freedomforceinternational.org saying he allows for the possibility of ET-influence.

[Shami-Amourae]

It's more likely we are in a computer virtual reality like the Matrix or Westworld.

I think the distance between stars is far too great for intelligent alien life to contact us.

Literally this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cidUaUCb5M

[Hitch]

By merely observing us they influence our 'reality', that much is completely inescapable. However I suspect there is much more at play. There are definitely 'good' influences as well as 'bad' influences.

By observing us, that means they basically have visited us. Personally, if aliens were so advanced they could travel here. They should be smart enough to see all the demons running around, and say heck no, we are staying away from that infested evil place.

[singular_me]

we all know about the side effects of intervention, we live in a free will universe and NO good ETs will intervene.

Once knowledge attains a certain level, the role any alien is to protect life, make sure that it is spreading... bad aliens parasite the work of good aliens because their role is to ensure that free will exist. The Good explains Evil, and otherwise. There is no way to get rid of such immutable cosmic frameworks, good vs evil is here to stay. And because it is easy to blur the line, divide and conquer is close to completely destroying humanity.

It is now up to us to overthrow evil...



By observing us, that means they basically have visited us. Personally, if aliens were so advanced they could travel here. They should be smart enough to see all the demons running around, and say heck no, we are staying away from that infested evil place.

[old steel]

For one thing a lot of the unidentified flying objects people see are home grown, CAF has repeatedly referred to the secret space program in her interviews and writings.

A lot of the missing trillions from various government departments has funded the development of this program, everything comes with a price.

The Universe is obviously teeming with life, there are other dimensions besides the one we occupy.

I would think we would be vastly amiss to not believe other worldly being/entities exist but exactly how many of them are coming here is a question none of us can answer.

Doesn't mean there aren't people who don't know.

Dick Cheney knows, he once snapped back at that question with the reply "what makes you think you have a right to know?"

Some of the vehicles the SSP fly in the not so friendly skies.




the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit Stealth Bomber
the Aurora
Lockheed-Martin’s X-33A
Boeing and Airbus Industries’ Nautilus
the TR3-A Pumpkinseed
the TR3-B Triangle
Northrop’s Great Pumpkin disc
Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical’s XH-75D
Shark antigravity helicopter
Lockheed-Martin and Northrop’s jointly-developed TAW-50 hypersonic antigravity fighter-bomber


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_antigravity.htm

[JohnQPublic]

You CAN rule out ETs? As in off-planet life forms? How so?

And these demons... do you imagine them to have physical bodies as we "humans" think of them... bodies we can see/hear/smell/taste/touch, and perhaps harm/kill? It does appear that our malevolent overlords worship some demonic entity, or it "owns them." Pizzagate/etc?! Or their satanic ritual abuse/etc rings are just a pragmatic means of keeping TPTB's tools in line.

Separately, YT search "Disclosure Project" for a lengthy docu I guess produced by Steven Greer. I understand it swayed many ET-influence believers towards their beliefs ever since. Not sure if it's 2 or 4 hours, based on my varying YT search results. Maybe it's been extended since its initial release? I gave the docu about 1/2 hour several years ago; got the general idea & got bored & haven't returned to it. IIRC it's a series of "highly credentialed people" speaking about their experiences, but the dilemma was, with our alphabet intel complex being so vast, how can I know these people are sincere or whether the whole docu is another agenda-driven population control charade ?

http://www​.disclosureproject.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer

I meant to say can NOT rule them out ABSOLUTELY. Life may be a spontaneous process in the universe, first of all (given the right conditions). On the other hand intelligent life is totally another thing. Also, if there are alien civilizations out there, where are they (Fermi paradox)?

[vacuum]

I'm somewhat skeptical of actual alien beings, with bodies and all, are actually affecting things on an individual basis.

But I do think there are forces that link consciousness together and probably transmit information.

[Jewboo]

I think the distance between stars is far too great for intelligent alien life to contact us.



http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2013/38/034c325e92c5340e391b9145e75afe92e57331f5.jpg ON OUR FLAT EARTH

This thread is posted in the General Discussion section.

:D

[Shami-Amourae]

http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2013/38/034c325e92c5340e391b9145e75afe92e57331f5.jpg ON OUR FLAT EARTH

This thread is posted in the General Discussion section.

:D

Spherecucks BTFO?

[madfranks]

I meant to say can NOT rule them out ABSOLUTELY. Life may be a spontaneous process in the universe, first of all (given the right conditions).

I wholeheartedly disagree. Not only is abiogenesis (the spontaneous generation of life from non-living matter) never been observed or created in the lab, it is simply not possible without intelligent direction and guidance. Even in the current year, mainstream science makes it sound so easy and casual for nonliving matter to form life. A recent History channel documentary on the origin of life SKIPPED the most important part, the actual process of nonliving matter becoming alive. They went from primordial soup to single cell life in one swift jump, not even explaining how it happened.

I'm not trained in science, but I've read and researched this topic a lot. One question (among many) I've never seen satisfactorily answered is the question of how can digital code evolve? DNA is a four base digital code (compared to the two-base binary code used in modern computing) whereby base combinations are decoded using a coding language which digitally represents the reality of life. I see no way that language and coding can be created without intelligence.

[Horn]

There is no mutant enemy and you are all dirty uninteresting muslims.

[Neuro]

It's more likely we are in a computer virtual reality like the Matrix or Westworld.

I think the distance between stars is far too great for intelligent alien life to contact us.

Literally this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cidUaUCb5M

That was funny, and to the point!

And yes as you said universe is fucking great in size. If we could develop a rocket ship that could get us up to 1/10th of light speed (would be more than 1,000 times our current top speed, unless NASA lied to us about that too) and still keep our genetic material and cells safe from cosmic radiation grilling. It would still take us at least 50 years to reach Proxima fucking centauris (being a bit optimistic in terms of acceleration and deceleration). If half the journey is spent accelerating and the other half is spent decelerating to and from 30,000 km/s, it would take 86 years to reach the closest star system.

If a species exists in the universe that has evolved technology that somehow could overcome these physical hurdles, they would certainly not be particularly interested in being in touch with us (except for maybe Goldissima, whom they'll send spam-messages too).

Unless those fuckers hijack me and take me to Titan, or some other space object I recognize within a couple of hours journey from earth in a sober state I am not going to assume they exist in our vicinity.

Yeah, fuckers put up or shut up!

[crimethink]

You CAN rule out ETs? As in off-planet life forms? How so?

And these demons... do you imagine them to have physical bodies as we "humans" think of them... bodies we can see/hear/smell/taste/touch, and perhaps harm/kill? It does appear that our malevolent overlords worship some demonic entity, or it "owns them." Pizzagate/etc?! Or their satanic ritual abuse/etc rings are just a pragmatic means of keeping TPTB's tools in line.

Separately, YT search "Disclosure Project" for a lengthy docu I guess produced by Steven Greer. I understand it swayed many ET-influence believers towards their beliefs ever since. Not sure if it's 2 or 4 hours, based on my varying YT search results. Maybe it's been extended since its initial release? I gave the docu about 1/2 hour several years ago; got the general idea & got bored & haven't returned to it. IIRC it's a series of "highly credentialed people" speaking about their experiences, but the dilemma was, with our alphabet intel complex being so vast, how can I know these people are sincere or whether the whole docu is another agenda-driven population control charade ?

http://www​.disclosureproject.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer

I don't believe in "extraterrestrials" aka "Martians" or other forms of green things from outer space.

Close encounters with "extraterrestrials" have occurred throughout human history. All the way back to the Serpent in the Garden. However, modern man is "sophisticated" now and has dispensed with the reality of demons. No, he's much too "advanced" for that. Now these demons are "aliens" from the Sirius or Vega star systems (both used by Holowood for storylines).

Those who rule this world answer to the "primitive superstition" that this same "modern man" has dismissed: Satan. And these "aliens" are his demons, popping into our four-dimensional universe from their own plane of existence, complete with "signs and wonders" and the smell of sulfur, just like centuries ago. Vallee and Keel (previously cited; among the top serious UFO/ET researchers) demonstrated the commonalities of modern "alien" encounters and ancient demon encounters. The only thing that has changed is man's hubris.

Holowood has been getting the Goyim of all the Earth primed for the day that is coming, perhaps soon. That day will be when the "conspiracy theory" of Project Bluebeam is actually implemented. It's laid dormant for decades, just as Operation Northwoods laid dormant for decades.

Building atop the Psychodrome memes of "aliens" that Holowood has developed since the 1950s, Bluebeam will fool the vast majority of the world into believing "aliens from outer space" have arrived to "help" us, and most of the world will rejoice! The "aliens" will promise Earth peace, and provide humans great leaps in scientific knowledge and technology - just like in the Holowood movies. There will be a few things they "ask" of us, though - "little things." "Little things" like formalizing world government, disarming national militaries (and civilians), integrating the entire planet into an "advanced" communications (control) grid. No worries, they'll help with all of it.

Oh, and one more little thing: the end of ignorance and superstition. They'll tell us that Jesus Christ, Buddha, Krishna were explorers from their race, or maybe even the same individual. They'll tell us that religion is actually beneficial to humanity, "when it's properly guided." Part of the ignorance and superstition they'll want to get rid of will involve taking out "hate" from the Bible, explaining that God doesn't really exist, that He is just an impersonal "great force," a "great architect," and they'll say that we should dispense with "nonsense" like the Resurrection and worship of Christ - since, after all, He was only a star voyager who used teleportation. The "aliens" will give us a new "acceptable" religion that will look, well, like what Goldissima says we should believe in. One world, one race, one religion.

And soon thereafter, the "benevolence" of the "aliens" will be revealed for what it really is. And Revelation will become live action.

[crimethink]

Depending on which researcher one listens to, there are 9 or 12 dimensions (from sub atomic particles to etheric life forms)

Most of these dimensional theories are directly from Kabbalah. Hence, I don't know how much truth there is to them...although Kabbalah may draw upon ancient wisdom that is factual.

Most of the Jews that were involved in early nuclear physics were followers of Kabbalah. There may be some esoteric knowledge that helped them achieve what they did. I know that a mostly-unspoken-of experiment occurred off to the side of Trinity Test, allegedly involving creating a real, live Golem (artificial "man," transmutation of non-life to life)...the intense radiation was reported to be key to the transmutation. Michael Hoffman spoke of "the bottle" in some of his works - a large steel vessel whose purpose was never explained.

[crimethink]

It's more likely we are in a computer virtual reality like the Matrix or Westworld.

Who built the computer? Who programmed the software? Who turned it on? Who pays the power bills?

Why is this sensible to you, but the concept of God is not?

[crimethink]

If we could develop a rocket ship that could get us up to 1/10th of light speed (would be more than 1,000 times our current top speed, unless NASA lied to us about that too) and still keep our genetic material and cells safe from cosmic radiation grilling.

Speed is not the challenge. If interstellar travel ever occurs, it will require "space folding" or "space warping." Forcing two four-dimensional points in the Universe to come closer together.

As for shielding, that will require manipulation of magnetic, gravimetric, or whatever-as-yet-undiscovered fields exist to block electromagnetic energy. Weight is too great for needed shielding for even "warp drive" vessels against radiation, and for cosmic rays, there is no effective "primitive" shielding. Earth's magnetosphere protects us from most cosmic radiation, but not all of it. And in unknown reaches of space, the radiation may be far higher, requiring a much higher Tesla field.

[JohnQPublic]

I wholeheartedly disagree. Not only is abiogenesis (the spontaneous generation of life from non-living matter) never been observed or created in the lab, it is simply not possible without intelligent direction and guidance. Even in the current year, mainstream science makes it sound so easy and casual for nonliving matter to form life...

First, I am not talking about "from non-living matter". Second, I tend to agree. My thought is that it is possible that the only place in the universe where the conditions are right is (dun dun da dun): earth. I am just saying I have no basis to absolutely rule out

1. life elsewhere universally;
2. (this is perhaps easier to consider ruling out): intelligent life elsewhere.

From a scientific standpoint.

[Neuro]

Speed is not the challenge. If interstellar travel ever occurs, it will require "space folding" or "space warping." Forcing two four-dimensional points in the Universe to come closer together.


That is pure Hollywood style fantasy.

[JohnQPublic]

That was funny, and to the point!

And yes as you said universe is fucking great in size. If we could develop a rocket ship that could get us up to 1/10th of light speed (would be more than 1,000 times our current top speed, unless NASA lied to us about that too) and still keep our genetic material and cells safe from cosmic radiation grilling. It would still take us at least 50 years to reach Proxima fucking centauris (being a bit optimistic in terms of acceleration and deceleration). If half the journey is spent accelerating and the other half is spent decelerating to and from 30,000 km/s, it would take 86 years to reach the closest star system.

If a species exists in the universe that has evolved technology that somehow could overcome these physical hurdles, they would certainly not be particularly interested in being in touch with us (except for maybe Goldissima, whom they'll send spam-messages too).

Unless those fuckers hijack me and take me to Titan, or some other space object I recognize within a couple of hours journey from earth in a sober state I am not going to assume they exist in our vicinity.

Yeah, fuckers put up or shut up!

This is Fermi's paradox.

[Shami-Amourae]

Who built the computer? Who programmed the software? Who turned it on? Who pays the power bills?

Why is this sensible to you, but the concept of God is not?

I think if there was a "God" that would be the scenario the likely.

I don't think it would be some supernatural/spritual source, but some scientific explanation like that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxR_WVyjly8

[JohnQPublic]

I think if there was a "God" that would be the scenario the likely.

I don't think it would be some supernatural/spritual source, but some scientific explanation like that.



Who/what created the science? Who/what created the stuff?

[Shami-Amourae]

Who/what created the science? Who/what created the stuff?

Who created the deity?

No one can answer these questions.

[crimethink]

That is pure Hollywood style fantasy.

How so? Not according to all that I've read in credible material.

[crimethink]

Who created the deity?

No one can answer these questions.

No one, because this is a computer simulation. :)

The gamer is "outside" the universe of the simulation. Same so with God.

[Shami-Amourae]

no one, because this is a computer simulation. :)

the gamer is "outside" the universe of the simulation. Same so with god.


UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, B, A, START.

a

[Neuro]

How so? Not according to all that I've read in credible material.

There is no technology that can bend space-time, not one mm of it.

[crimethink]

There is no technology that can bend space-time, not one mm of it.

Not yet, of course.

But if human civilization survives another century or so, we will learn how to fully manipulate gravity, and in that will be the key to create artificial "wormholes." Rumors have persisted for a long time that the Germans made breakthroughs for rudimentary control of gravity back in the '40s. Independent researchers like John Hutchison have demonstrated some profound insights with cheap equipment and limited funding. The key to gravity control appears to be understanding and then manipulating Zero-Point Energy. Put the money and time into, and it will unfold. It may already be far more advanced than admitted.

[Neuro]

Not yet, of course.

But if human civilization survives another century or so, we will learn how to fully manipulate gravity, and in that will be the key to create artificial "wormholes." Rumors have persisted for a long time that the Germans made breakthroughs for rudimentary control of gravity back in the '40s. Independent researchers like John Hutchison have demonstrated some profound insights with cheap equipment and limited funding. The key to gravity control appears to be understanding and then manipulating Zero-Point Energy. Put the money and time into, and it will unfold. It may already be far more advanced than admitted.

As I said Hollywood induced fantasy/delusion.

[crimethink]

As I said Hollywood induced fantasy/delusion.

I don't understand where you're getting this.

[PatColo]

New Steven Greer ET flick, "Unacknowledged: An Exposé of the World's Greatest Secret (https://vimeo.com/ondemand/unacknowledged)" apparently released 3/30/17. This UK dood does a quick 6m review,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p8ydyVFor_Y/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=aLoxNk0wIT8qI3Ix372C-ys25us (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ydyVFor_Y) 5:35
Unacknowledged Review - DR Steven Greer Documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ydyVFor_Y)



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Returning to the channel routes quickly ;) Just watched DR Steven Greers new documentary on ET Disclosure. A Nice break from Pedogate that's for sure. Watch the documentary, you wont be disappointed!
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/unacknowledged



I did a YT search, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=greer+unacknowledged and a variety of results of widely varying lengths comes up. Since I have no idea which are BS clickbait, & whether or not any of them are the actual docu, I don't want to point to one here. But this trailer appears official,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3SnLGe1nitQ/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=67&sigh=OAaf5L4vAeXa2HfLKFx2nCOau6M
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SnLGe1nitQ) Unacknowledged Official Release Trailer (2017) Dr. Steven Greer UFO Documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SnLGe1nitQ)
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from their vimeo page,


Unacknowledged: An Exposé of the World's Greatest Secret

from The Orchard (https://vimeo.com/orchardmovies) PRO (https://vimeo.com/pro) on March 30, 2017

https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/631736451_295x166.jpg
Watch trailer (https://vimeo.com/ondemand/unacknowledged/214953675?autoplay=1)
Genres: Documentary (https://vimeo.com/ondemand/browse/documentary)
Duration: 1 hour 43 minutes
Availability: Worldwide

"Unacknowledged" focuses on the historic files of the Disclosure Project and how UFO secrecy has been ruthlessly enforced - and why. The best evidence for Extraterrestrial contact, dating back decades, is presented with direct top-secret witness testimony, documents and UFO footage, 80% of which has never been revealed anywhere else. The behind-the-scenes research and high level meetings convened by Dr. Steven Greer will expose the degree of illegal, covert operations at the core of UFO secrecy. From briefings with the CIA Director, top Pentagon Generals and Admirals, to the briefing of President Obama via senior advisor John Podesta, chairman of the Hillary Clinton Campaign - we take the viewer behind the veil of secrecy and into the corridors of real power where the UFO secrets reside. The viewer will learn that a silent coup d’état has occurred dating back to the 1950s and that the Congress, the President and other world leaders have been sidelined by criminal elements within the Military-Industrial-Financial complex.

[singular_me]

I have mixed opinion about him BUT he is an insider, so that is always worth watching,

check out on original page

Dr. Steven Greer : The FAKE 'Alien' Attack is Real & Coming Soon! HOAX ALIEN ATTACK COMING!

Unacknowledged Red Carpet Premiere - Livestream

[Glass]

This is the 1st hour of the latest Crow777 podcast. Topic is the history of ET/Alien mythos. Determines that HG Wells invented "The Greys" in the late 19th Century.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzrzmLNuRQk

Breaks down Roswell, War of the Worlds broadcast etc

[cheka.]

no proof = no dice

not saying they weren't here...or won't stop by someday. but as yet, nothing...

i find it comical that alien people always look to US federal government for answers. who made them ambassadors to aliens? zorgo from mars calling sheila jackson lee ONLY...not the other billions of people on the planet :)

[PatColo]

i find it comical that alien people always look to US federal government for answers. who made them ambassadors to aliens? zorgo from mars calling sheila jackson lee ONLY...not the other billions of people on the planet :)


I find it comical that I posted the following, reply #2 here, on Nov 26:



I guess what prompted me to post this poll was stumbling on this little 13 min docu-- it seems this decades long ET/disclosure activist really pinned his hopes on a president killary, all based on an apparent dog-whistle or two about imminent "Disclosure." So I guess he's been crying in his beer since 11/9.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5YmOsGBR51o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YmOsGBR51o&t=0s


and that ^ vid was published 11/3/16. Well if anyone watched it (jump to 6:45 if you're impatient), you know that the real person who that docu's featured ET disclosure activist, Stephen Bassett (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Stephen+Bassett+ET+disclosure+lobbyist&t=ffab&ia=web), had his hopes pinned on wasn't so much Killery, but her campaign manager JOHN PEDO-STA, who's apparently made a number of public & private (email) gestures advocating "disclosure". Pizzagate (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?93695-Pizzagate) was exploding at that exact time! I didn't start getting into P*Gate until... around that time, maybe early Dec?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ET+disclosure+John+Podesta&t=ffab&ia=web

[Glass]

i find it comical that alien people always look to US federal government for answers. who made them ambassadors to aliens? zorgo from mars calling sheila jackson lee ONLY...not the other billions of people on the planet :)

This is exactly what Crrow says and I agree.

Even though there is a ton of stuff going on in the skies above us, nothing that can't be explained as human tech, or natural phenomena.

[singular_me]

nothing is like it seems... and that is why we are in that mess

believing only what one sees (the tangible) is the surest way to be always proven wrong.

[Horn]

nothing is like it seems... and that is why we are in that mess

believing only what one sees (the tangible) is the surest way to be always proven wrong.

I'm waiting, singular ;)

Get the melanin out yur eye...

[singular_me]

as far as one can stretch it, horn ;D


DWAVE: Quantum Communication is admitted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6qOBjZw50k

[PatColo]

3 new vid clips:

Dave Hodges, Common Sense Show,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zKgfg1rNEyc/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLCph4VJzaT0P_HbrhcfqIhSCDTPYA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKgfg1rNEyc) 7:58
ETt Disclosure Will Come Bigelow Aerospace (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKgfg1rNEyc)

1,192 views
6 hours ago




vlogger "Destroying the Illusion"; young guy who's really into the Disclosure question... not sure what to make of him:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qNurdjNB-rw/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=3hPkeppujSLPmH6XDGXiUDuf6jg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNurdjNB-rw) 16:01
5.31 - Aerospace Exec Spills the Alien Beans, Trump Tweets & Civil War in Congress? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNurdjNB-rw)

5,240 views
8 hours ago




TruthStream Media, Aaron Dyke & his sister's channel:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mN-by_41kcc/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLA9tiMWnRwjYPGd9V3-THRNd-bQpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN-by_41kcc) 6:34
Why Is CERN Going to Bilderberg This Year? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN-by_41kcc)

6,534 views
3 hours ago

[singular_me]

ohh, those believing in alien life and other supranatural phenomenons (such as Natural Laws) do not think on their own. LOL

>>> must listen >>> ETt Disclosure Will Come Bigelow Aerospace

[Santa]

Covfefe, bitches... Can't say it more clearly than that! :)

[PatColo]

vlogger Richie from Baawston

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cCkoIShgT4k/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLC5zRMmJs_db-xWPCSlEHau3MD4NQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCkoIShgT4k) 3:50
Anonymous claims NASA ready to disclose ALIENS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCkoIShgT4k)

5,340 views
1 hour ago

[Joshua01]

There are no aliens (at least not the kind we've been spoon fed) there is no God. There are only jews, niggers, spicks, gays and trannies

[Horn]

There are no aliens (at least not the kind we've been spoon fed) there is no God. There are only jews, niggers, spicks, gays and trannies

There is no god? What are u an Indian?

[Joshua01]

I'm not evil, I'm not heartless, I'm just a realist and can see clearly how religion has been misused to hurt so many people for the sake of 'salvation' or to relieve some unearned guilt I've been saddled with through no fault of my own. I'm not saying you should believe what I do but I'm sure you will try and make ME a believer otherwise you'd be looked down upon by the 'Lord'
There is no god? What are u an Indian?

[singular_me]

just ask you this when looking at the earth globe from far away, it is so beautiful and peaceful, we cannot even see any humans from that distance... or even when looking at the ocean from the breezy beach, we cannot see any sea creatures struggling for survival

So when you look at the stars, keep that in mind.

nothing is like it seems, and it is a very rational assessment



There are no aliens (at least not the kind we've been spoon fed) there is no God.

[Joshua01]

nothing is like it seems
On that we agree m'lady! God is just another guess by a clueless race! I'm not happy about it, but I do believe it!

[singular_me]

anybody clicking on my "cybernetic organisms thread" while keeping in mind that we are at the dawn of "supranatural knowledge" can sense that *it* is not from this planet.

Only a very few scientists (5-10%) are given directives as how to conduct their research and the rest (90-95%) follow like sheep, that is precisely why most do not see a thing, that combined with a fat paycheck.

cybernetic thread
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?91480-Gold-Skelettons-For-Cybernetic-Organisms

[Horn]

I'm not evil, I'm not heartless, I'm just a realist and can see clearly how religion has been misused to hurt so many people for the sake of 'salvation' or to relieve some unearned guilt I've been saddled with through no fault of my own. I'm not saying you should believe what I do but I'm sure you will try and make ME a believer otherwise you'd be looked down upon by the 'Lord'

I have no reason to make u believe.

Truth is too many people agree that there is God, for anyone to claim that there is No God.

That's about all there is to it.

[crimethink]

I'm not evil, I'm not heartless, I'm just a realist and can see clearly how religion has been misused to hurt so many people for the sake of 'salvation' or to relieve some unearned guilt I've been saddled with through no fault of my own. I'm not saying you should believe what I do but I'm sure you will try and make ME a believer otherwise you'd be looked down upon by the 'Lord'

A realist would look at even the simplest creatures of Creation and accept that such a magnificent beauty was designed by Creative Intelligence.

"Religion" - the human apparatus that pretends it has the right to intervene between men and God - has indeed been used as a weapon for control and oppression. But God remains, above and separate from that, and the beauty of Creation demonstrates His benevolence.

If someone set up a cult called the Joshuists, and killed people in your name, whose fault would it be, theirs or yours?

BTW, like the new avatar, but I think George would prefer an American weapon. :)

[singular_me]

the Sparkle of Life emanating from Torus is everywhere around us, hard not to believe there is no God. Thats the mathematical and absolute proof.


I have no reason to make u believe.

Truth is too many people agree that there is God, for anyone to claim that there is No God.

That's about all there is to it.

[PatColo]

vlogger Destroying The Illusion, a big believer in ETs,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OwECoLGRl68/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLD9oS_tEDKnLwtqDKdQHi3QXTvguA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwECoLGRl68) 18:43
8.2 - Human Trafficking News & Mainstream UFO/Alien Stories (NASA Hiring Space Officers?) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwECoLGRl68)

2,042 views
3 hours ago







2 vloggers I follow have put up vids on this job opening.

A Call For An Uprising:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PTl4K7UYe64/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLAGmtJH9phwHZLslSCNjYsBqIvwqw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTl4K7UYe64) 13:08
NASA IS NOW HIRING FOR THE EASIEST JOB EVER! PROTECT EARTH FROM ALIENS??? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTl4K7UYe64)



10,187 views
20 hours ago




Hey What's Up YouTube It's Richie from Boston,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y7lmLWN-iug/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLA1hmnKZcaFyLv8Wl6vfgyKMxiElA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lmLWN-iug) 5:36
Nasa needs help defending Against Aliens (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lmLWN-iug)



22,702 views
18 hours ago




new from TruthStream Media,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SC2Qj8HsMK8/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLCyySsXLlvrPL1GlYX-NjxuHyt5rQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC2Qj8HsMK8) 11:54
The Two Most Hilarious Things NASA Has Ever Said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC2Qj8HsMK8)



12,640 views
6 hours ago

[PatColo]

dropping this vid here, coz vlogger Richie from Boston combines some VR, with chemtrails & Operation Bluebeam;

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/I6Qkb4ziYo0/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLBi3eO_ztk7fPC-qOYJLtJZi8_LYA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Qkb4ziYo0) 6:30
Augmented Reality Whether you like it or not (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Qkb4ziYo0)

8,520 views
5 hours ago




& this from same vlogger, haven't listened yet but I expect some overlap with the above, applied to the coming eclipse event,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r1EUUYYvy-4/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLAGWQLVNBqfNByuMozLRwBEyY9fbQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1EUUYYvy-4) 49:41
Operation Black Skies, Eclipse and Military (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1EUUYYvy-4)

10,329 views
1 hour ago

[PatColo]

Yesterday john podesta the satanist pedo/cannibal tweeted a tease about some kind of disclosure today.
https://twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/917869274387173376

Vlogger Jordan, who's into ET stuff, put up this video,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QJaNPlhmdSM/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLDX-aEt0YS0EXKNqExiLmswCZ_-OA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaNPlhmdSM) 12:07
Watching "To The Stars" Partial Disclosure event Live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaNPlhmdSM)

3,459 views
1 hour ago

[singular_me]

he is one of the most knowledgeable vloggers out there... he probes everything...


Yesterday john podesta the satanist pedo/cannibal tweeted a tease about some kind of disclosure today.
https://twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/917869274387173376

Vlogger Jordan, who's into ET stuff, put up this video,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QJaNPlhmdSM/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLDX-aEt0YS0EXKNqExiLmswCZ_-OA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaNPlhmdSM) 12:07
Watching "To The Stars" Partial Disclosure event Live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaNPlhmdSM)

3,459 views
1 hour ago