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Horn
2nd December 2016, 05:24 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/02/donald-trump-calls-taiwans-president-tsai-ing-wen-risking-diplomatic/

ximmy
2nd December 2016, 05:33 PM
Totally deliberate... Trump is playing a well dealt hand. They who underestimate him will be left over and swept away.

This man has absolutely no fear... Peeps should know this by now.


“The Chinese leadership will see this as a highly provocative action, of historic proportions," Evan Medeiros, former Asia director at the White House national security council, told the Financial Times (https://www.ft.com/content/fd19907e-b8d4-11e6-961e-a1acd97f622d).
“Regardless if it was deliberate or accidental, this phone call will fundamentally change China’s perceptions of Trump’s strategic intentions for the negative. With this kind of move, Trump is setting a foundation of enduring mistrust and strategic competition for US-China relations.” ....


Bonnie Glaser, director of the China Power Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said: “I would guess that President-elect Trump does not really comprehend how sensitive Beijing is about this issue.”
Earlier this week, Mr Trump risked angering India by apparently telling Nawaz Sharif, the Pakistani prime minister he would "love" to visit the country soon.

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Horn
2nd December 2016, 05:43 PM
Is like a bad Godfather dupe,

instead of a horse head, a near death jewzionish diplomat is found under your pillow.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/12/02/xi-large_trans++qVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu 2jJnT8.jpg

The call happened on the same day that Xi Jinping, the Chinese president, met Henry Kissinger, the former US secretary of state, in Beijing to promote US-Chinese relations. Mr Kissinger brokered the US relationship with China in the early 1970s.




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Cebu_4_2
2nd December 2016, 06:44 PM
Totally deliberate... Trump is playing a well dealt hand. They who underestimate him will be left over and swept away.

This man has absolutely no fear... Peeps should know this by now.

Seems very few on this forum see reality. Just pick and poke it. I think Trump is doing all he can, this is his legacy and he wouldn't want it all jacked up for his kids and the world.

That is just my oppinion.

Horn
2nd December 2016, 07:04 PM
Seems very few on this forum see reality.

It looks like he is playing a well dealt hand, for sure.

I see this much, I think most everyone else at forum sees it the same.

Joshua01
2nd December 2016, 08:00 PM
When asked about reports of proposed military exchanges between Taiwan and US officials next year, the spokesman said: "The Chinese side strongly opposes any form of official interaction and military contact between the US and Taiwan. This position is consistent and clear.
"The Chinese side urges the US to abide by the one China policy and principles of the three joint communiqués, deal with the Taiwan question in a prudent manner, and avoid backsliding and damaging the larger interests of China-US relations."
I'm sorry but who the fuck is China to tell the US who it can and cannot talk to? China must think they'll be dealing with Oblowme forever; God, I hope not!

Horn
2nd December 2016, 11:26 PM
I'm sorry but who the fuck is China to tell the US who it can and cannot talk to? China must think they'll be dealing with Oblowme forever; God, I hope not!


I guess TPP Agreement could still be passed by China speaking directly to Governor Brown too.

Twisted Titan
3rd December 2016, 12:05 AM
I swear im gonna get a shirt pressed

TRUMP
ZERO F**CKS GIVEN

Neuro
3rd December 2016, 01:15 AM
When asked about reports of proposed military exchanges between Taiwan and US officials next year, the spokesman said: "The Chinese side strongly opposes any form of official interaction and military contact between the US and Taiwan. This position is consistent and clear.
"The Chinese side urges the US to abide by the one China policy and principles of the three joint communiqués, deal with the Taiwan question in a prudent manner, and avoid backsliding and damaging the larger interests of China-US relations."
I'm sorry but who the fuck is China to tell the US who it can and cannot talk to? China must think they'll be dealing with Oblowme forever; God, I hope not!


I think Trump MUST damage "the larger interests of China-US relations", the core of it is free trade, which has been to the sole advantage of China. If he had any interest in softening the blow after speaking with Taiwanese premier, he wouldn't have said that US sells weapon to Taiwan for Billions every year. And no, he didn't make that statement out of ignorance and carelessness, this was deliberate trolling the Chinese. To show them he isn't going to be walked over or talked down to.

There is a boss in town now, the black lives matter community organizer is moving out.

Horn
3rd December 2016, 10:33 AM
It reminds me of zionist thug diplomacy. You'd think you would earn some kind of trust before proceeding to negotiations or even accepting office, this could get ugly.

I don't think U.S. is exactly in a place to call itself Sparta.

Neuro
3rd December 2016, 10:45 AM
It reminds me of zionist thug diplomacy. You'd think you would earn some kind of trust before proceeding to negotiations or even accepting office, this could get ugly.

I don't think U.S. is exactly in a place to call itself Sparta.
Zionist thug diplomacy is what happened to Saddam Hussein after he asked US about invading Kuwait in
1990. One could argue this is what happened to Taiwan the last 40 years too.

JohnQPublic
3rd December 2016, 10:52 AM
I think most of us lived through a similar magnitude world changing event: the fall of the Soviet empire. We are still recovering from it.

Neuro
3rd December 2016, 11:45 AM
Taiwan is US 9th trading partner...

Stick to ‘one China’ policy, Beijing tells US after historic call between Trump & Taiwan’s president
https://www.rt.com/news/369090-china-trump-taiwan-call/

Yes, let's not pretend pesky Taiwan even exists...

Horn
3rd December 2016, 12:00 PM
Yes, let's not pretend pesky Taiwan even exists...

Pretend China does not exist you mean.

Neuro
3rd December 2016, 12:31 PM
Pretend China does not exist you mean.

Did they call to congratulate Trump? Didn't hear a thing about it... Maybe they thought it was enough if just Taiwanesich China did it?

Btw Kissinger was there yesterday kissing ass or whatever he does...

Horn
3rd December 2016, 12:41 PM
Kissinger was there probably there selling his plan that the chinese people should now suffer.

Beijing was most likely all on board the zio-train.

Neuro
3rd December 2016, 12:44 PM
Kissinger was there probably there selling his plan that the chinese people should now suffer.

Beijing was most likely all on board the zio-train.

You mean Trump jumped off the zio-train?

Horn
3rd December 2016, 01:23 PM
You mean Trump jumped off the zio-train?

No, Trump Engineer blew the whistle to board and commence Chinese peoples and market suffering onboard the Zio-train.

TroyOz
3rd December 2016, 02:06 PM
Trump says things that nobody else will, got to give him credit for the courage to speak his mind to the powerful - and to their face.


http://www.naturalnews.com/2016-12-03-good-call-trump-its-time-america-recognized-taiwan-as-a-sovereign-nation.html


Good call, Trump: It’s time America recognized Taiwan as a sovereign nation (and rejected the bullying of communist China)

Saturday, December 03, 2016 by: Mike Adams

(NaturalNews) Keep reading if you want to know the real story about Trump, Taiwan and communist China. While mainstream media outlets are losing their minds over the fact that Taiwan president Tsai Ying-Wen called Donald Trump to congratulate him on his election victory, the simple, irrefutable fact is that mainstream media reporters are not only intentionally dishonest, they are incredibly ignorant of geopolitical reality.

As someone who lived in Taiwan, speaks Mandarin Chinese and traveled throughout Asia, I can tell you a few key truths that the rest of the media doesn’t know (or won’t admit).

Let’s start with the basics: Communist China is a bigoted, intolerant, radical leftist communist regime that can best be described as being run by “libtards with nukes.” The Red China government routinely arrests people for their religious beliefs and harvests their organs for black market profits. The best way to imagine China is to think about where California is right now with mandatory vaccines, political correctness and “safe space” colleges, then fast forward about 25 years and add in a layer of massive industrial pollution. That’s China. It’s deeply corrupt, hopelessly polluted and run by completely insane radical leftists who bully the entire world with their insane demands.

Taiwan, on the other hand, is a nation of free markets, entrepreneurship, innovation and democracy. Taiwan might be viewed as “the Texas of Asia,” except it’s a whole lot smaller than Texas, and citizens can’t own firearms. The Taiwan people are amazingly intelligent, resilient and determined. They’re also honest and hardworking, and anyone who deals with imported goods from Asia knows that Taiwan manufacturers have far higher quality and ethics than China manufacturers.
Communist China ridiculously claims it still owns Taiwan

Now here’s the real piece you need to know in all this: Ever since Chiang Kai-shek split off from the mainland and set up his own sovereign government in Taiwan (back in the 1940’s), communist China has claimed it “owns” Taiwan. The communists have done everything in their power to prevent Taiwan from being recognized as a sovereign nation by world government bodies such as the UN. Even to this day, the UN still does not recognize Taiwan as an independent nation, even though it has its own government, its own culture, its own language, its own president, its own economy and so on.

The United States Previously recognized Taiwan as a nation, but that changed under President Nixon, who dropped Taiwan to embrace communist China as the “official” ruler of all China, including Taiwan. (This was the first selling out of Taiwan by the United States.)

Ever since then, all U.S. presidents have refused to recognize Taiwan because they didn’t want to anger China, the largest purchaser of U.S. Treasury debt. In order for the U.S. government to keep running massive debt spending, they needed foreign suckers (er, I mean “governments”) to keep buying U.S. debt while the Federal Reserve continued printing more fiat currency money to fund its increasingly power-hungry growth of big government. On top of that, China is also obviously a huge trading partner with the United States, and it supplies U.S. consumers with cheap plastic crap sold at WalMart, helping to convince the dumbed-down, fluoridated masses that life must be okay since they can still buy non-stick cookware for $4.99.

All the while, U.S. leaders (who were of course complete sellouts to the globalists) looked the other way on China’s extreme human rights abuses in order to maintain “economic stability.” None of the U.S. Presidents since the 1970’s have dared even accept a phone call from Taiwan, purely out of fear of angering China, the communist bully nation run by libtards with nukes.

As all this was happening, China was of course constantly threatening to stage a military invasion of Taiwan. This stance continues to this very day.
Taiwan’s economy is now deeply intertwined with China’s factories and cheap labor

But things have now become more complicated on the economic side. Taiwan manufacturing businesses, in search of ever cheaper labor, began opening factories in China. This involved a massive shift of manufacturing technology to China, essentially handing over technology in exchange for cheap labor. Today, tens of thousands of Taiwan business people live in China (or visit China frequently) to oversee “Taiwan” factories that are actually offshored to China for their cheap labor and practically non-existent environmental regulations.

As all this is going on, China is routinely and deceptively manipulating its currency in order to create an artificial advantage in exporting products to other nations. This currency manipulation makes a mockery of “free trade,” and when combined with China’s utter lack of environmental regulations, it gives China a wildly unfair advantage in international trade. President-elect Trump correctly identified China’s currency manipulation as an enemy of legitimate free trade, and this is why Trump will very likely (and correctly) initiate a trade war with China. Yes, it’s time to start slapping tariffs on imported goods from China. The smirking neoliberal economists who taught you in college that “tariffs are always bad” are totally clueless about geopolitical reality.
China pushing false climate change narrative to give themselves a trade advantage

To further leverage their export advantage, China is pushing hard for Trump to maintain America’s “climate change taxes” so that energy production in the USA is financially penalized. Meanwhile, China is releasing extreme pollution from “dirty coal” that’s cheap to produce, making Chinese manufacturing very cheap compared to USA production due to energy costs associated with all manufacturing.

And yet, China’s pollution blows right across North America, depositing mercury, cadmium, tungsten and other toxic heavy metals all across the U.S. landscape. In other words, U.S. consumers get cheap goods from China while exporting U.S. manufacturing jobs but importing pollution from China. What a deal! The result is a nation of unemployed Americans living on food stamps and voting for Democrats to bail them out with more government entitlements… in other words, a Clinton paradise.

“Climate change,” you see, is just another economic hoax being leveraged by China to suppress U.S. manufacturing competitiveness. It’s all completely bogus, founded in quack science and dirty politics. Yet Obama kept it all going for the obvious reason that one of his primary goals from day one was to destroy U.S. economic productivity (while also destroying American culture, sovereignty and democracy).
Globalists are now aligned with China to spread communism and crush freedom in Taiwan and the USA

The globalists are all colluding to destroy America, suppress Taiwan and take over the world: Communist China, Barack Obama, George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates… these people see freedom and sovereignty of nations like Taiwan and the USA as threats to the globalist agenda (of total economic domination and obedience enslavement of the world population).

Trump, like Taiwan, is a threat to the globalist agenda. That’s why Taiwan’s media has recently been taken over by globalists who print all the same fake news you hear on CNN and NPR. Taiwan’s recent election of Tsai Ying-Wen was almost exactly the same sort of anti-establishment uprising we experienced in America with the election of Donald Trump.

Just like the Democrats in America are all left-wing commie-loving globalist f##ktards, the “KMT” party in Taiwan is exactly the same thing. But Taiwan’s new president, Tsai Ying-Wen, represents the “DPP” party, which is all about Taiwan independence and sovereignty. In fact, the first thing China did after she won the election was to threaten Taiwan with a military invasion.

In other words, the election uprising we just saw with Trump in the USA already took place a few months ago with Thai Ying-Wen in Taiwan. It’s a global phenomenon, too: consider BREXIT and the upcoming elections in France and Italy. Everywhere you look, the people are rejecting the corrupt, globalist political elites.

It’s also important to note that Taiwan lived under Japanese occupation during World War II. People still alive today in Taiwan suffered mass starvation, brutal rapes and a military police state under the Japanese emperor. They know what it’s like to live as slaves under a brutal dictatorship, and they aren’t going to let that happen again.

That’s why Taiwan is defiant against Chinese rule. It’s also why Donald Trump should recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation. The people of Taiwan deserve our support as freedom-loving Americans.
Globalists hope you never learn the truth about Taiwan and China

The reason the Wall Street Journal won’t tell you any of this is because WSJ writers work for the same globalist manipulators who are trying to enslave humanity and rule the world with fraudulent currency and electronic totalitarianism.

Now you know why the corrupt, globalist-run mainstream media is condemning Trump for accepting a simple phone call from the President of Taiwan.

Dogman
3rd December 2016, 02:13 PM
Nice post and welcome to the insane asylum also known as the rubber room !

;D

Horn
3rd December 2016, 02:24 PM
Welcome Troyoz, and hail to Trump making america great again with one shitstirring post a a time, anything less would be unamerican.