Interview With Filmmaker Aaron Dykes on 'Obsolete'

[singular_me]

interestingly people cease to think rationally when faced with the illusion of materialism, Aaron unknowingly advocates for a money-free world @16:30mins

true, if everybody gets say $2000 basic income is like giving ZERO money

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Interview With Filmmaker Aaron Dykes on New Documentary Obsolete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hKeeBeZxcI

[crimethink]

One of the few alternative models for society which could give people a better/"sustainable" life other than National Socialism was/is Social Credit.

As humans - particularly, our own - become "obsolete," it will be harder and harder for the "unneeded" to survive. Either lots of our own live in misery and then die, or, we reorganize society under a new model.

The idea that someone "earns" millions of dollars is an absurdity. An evil absurdity. If "civilization" means anything, Jewish Capitalism and its unearned wealth will have to go.

Social Credit was the original model for a "basic income" for everyone. Douglas worked it out, and there is nothing economically that would prevent it from working. The obstacles are greed, and its instrument, politics.

[Ares]

Social Credit was the original model for a "basic income" for everyone. Douglas worked it out, and there is nothing economically that would prevent it from working. The obstacles are greed, and its instrument, politics.

Which are the exact same reasons Socialism and Communism fail. Human nature is an extremely difficult variable when considering an economic system.

[singular_me]

no monetary system can fix the subjectivity of value, because if it could we'd have a zero-sum game economics (with no poor nor rich). There will **never** be any economic profits to make out there. It is all an illusion.

Understanding that the monetary game is lost requires to understand what Reality is. And at that game, the elites win. The stakes are metaphysical and at the core of elite psychopathy and archonic control.

Ending this will cost to accept losing everything we hold for truths and to rebuild everything from scratch. The system is not salvageable.




Which are the exact same reasons Socialism and Communism fail. Human nature is an extremely difficult variable when considering an economic system.

[Ares]

no monetary system can fix the subjectivity of value, because if it could we'd have a zero-sum game economics (with no poor nor rich). There will **never** be any economic profits to make out there. It is all an illusion.

Sometimes I wonder if you even listen to yourself when you speak. Value is subjective to a point, but what value do you place on food when someone else grows it? Are we supposed to expect farmers to work for free to the betterment of society by feeding them?

How do you tell a starving family that they are suffering from starvation because of metaphysics? :rolleyes:

[singular_me]

for a system to change, ideas and concepts must be spread first, then manifest as Reality.

a money-free world will never happen overnight, could take up to a generation. But like I said, setting things into motion has to start somewhere. ;D

death will forever exists, hence always take back our materialistic possessions. life is about learning to understand and reunite with the Field/Source/God... and nothing else. The elites know this and have trapped us into perceptions to distract us from Reality.



Sometimes I wonder if you even listen to yourself when you speak. Value is subjective to a point, but what value do you place on food when someone else grows it? Are we supposed to expect farmers to work for free to the betterment of society by feeding them?

How do you tell a starving family that they are suffering from starvation because of metaphysics? :rolleyes:

[madfranks]

The idea that someone "earns" millions of dollars is an absurdity. An evil absurdity. If "civilization" means anything, Jewish Capitalism and its unearned wealth will have to go.

I think it's entirely possible to legitimately earn millions of dollars. Think about the size of the economy we live and work in, with hundreds of millions of participants. If someone invents something, offers it for sale, people like it and want to buy it, so he produces and distributes them, and he sells a million of them, how is that not earned?

[Horn]

I dont think a money free society is needed, only an usury free one.

There should be no middleman private speculator between users of fiat loans, this would allow fiat itslef to remain at its true value in so much that you are not able to counterfit it.

determination of quantity received in the ability to return.

just a fraction above a zerosum game, fiat should flow like a water commodity it is.

[singular_me]

are you hoping that we are going to sent to the stone age? there will be soon no jobs anymore, what economy??... not to mention, for example, that the inventions of fossil oil-explosion-engines and plastic are now proven totally harmful to humanity/nature

one cannot make m/billions without causing a slavery based system, this is the law of balance. Every recipe to make m/billions is basically a fraud or comes from being shortsighted.

facts:
another wake up call
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?93845-Another-Wake-up-call



I think it's entirely possible to legitimately earn millions of dollars. Think about the size of the economy we live and work in, with hundreds of millions of participants. If someone invents something, offers it for sale, people like it and want to buy it, so he produces and distributes them, and he sells a million of them, how is that not earned?

[madfranks]

are you hoping that we are going to sent to the stone age? there will be soon no jobs anymore, what economy??... not to mention, for example, that the inventions of fossil oil-explosion-engines and plastic are now proven totally harmful to humanity/nature

There will soon be no jobs? Please tell me when so I can plan accordingly.


one cannot make m/billions without causing a slavery based system, this is the law of balance. Every recipe to make m/billions is basically a fraud or comes from being shortsighted.

What is this law of balance you are referring to? I disagree that one cannot make m/billions without causing slavery. Increased productivity makes us all richer. I hope you're not falling for the fallacy of thought that states that in order for one person to become rich, others must necessarily become poor.

[singular_me]

hinduism warns against Maya (the illusion)... even christ when saying leave everything behind and follow me, that is what he **precisely** meant.

when you die you do not take anything with you, and this reinforces the illusion of materialism. Passing on this illusion to one's kids (via inheritance) is still an illusion.

materialistic possessions cause genocide/murder/enslave, christianity and hinduism agree on that.

Look back this slave based pyramid system is 5,000 years old. Babylon didnt start it but sumeria. Gold was never able to prevent any manias. The first global crash goes back 700 years ago and decimated all 50% of european populations.

in the universe everything is balanced and cooperating 24/7. the more coercive is the top/wealth the more shocks to the system.



There will soon be no jobs? Please tell me when so I can plan accordingly.



What is this law of balance you are referring to? I disagree that one cannot make m/billions without causing slavery. Increased productivity makes us all richer. I hope you're not falling for the fallacy of thought that states that in order for one person to become rich, others must necessarily become poor.

[Horn]

Gold has never been able to prevent any manias. The first global crash goes back 700 years ago and decimated all 50% of european populations.

How is one to know true happiness without knowing mania?

Happiness would be as bland then as gazing at youself in a mirror...without mania.

This is universal law and you stepped in it :)

[Ares]

for a system to change, ideas and concepts must be spread first, then manifest as Reality.

a money-free world will never happen overnight, could take up to a generation. But like I said, setting things into motion has to start somewhere. ;D

death will forever exists, hence always take back our materialistic possessions. life is about learning to understand and reunite with the Field/Source/God... and nothing else. The elites know this and have trapped us into perceptions to distract us from Reality.

You didn't answer my question. Hunger is a reality and is a direct result of the physical embodiment. How do you tell a starving family that their suffering is the result of not understanding metaphysics, and that they just need to learn to understand to reunite with field/source/god?

Re-aligning with source will not get you fed, and not everyone has the luxury of being able to grow their own food. Like it or not, labor and cost go hand in hand with the effort it takes to grow said product. The ONLY way I see for a monetary free future is a state owning all of the farm land in a given country but machines are the ones growing the food.

[singular_me]

dont worry life is full of inner conflicts to start with... and mastering them is the purpose of life.

I am not advocating for a conflict free life (what is impossible) but a system that is enhancing life as opposed to a death cult rulership. This death cult is so ancient, and so is the generational trauma, that imaging a life without ((them)) is a challenging for many.



How is one to know true happiness without knowing mania?

Happiness would be as bland then as gazing at youself in a mirror...without mania.

This is universal law and you stepped in it :)

[singular_me]

you are trying to ridicule my words but that's okay... we all know that education must be reformed to start with. In fact problems are so huge and so interwoven that not many people have to courage to face it all at once. But I do.

when people grow up being told that they are born in sin and to wait for the return of a savior, the condition of slavery is in place already.

No belief system will offer any long term answer as long as immutable laws (physics) are not taught in elementary schools. Knowing them is knowing the force and intent of God.



You didn't answer my question. Hunger is a reality and is a direct result of the physical embodiment. How do you tell a starving family that their suffering is the result of not understanding metaphysics, and that they just need to learn to understand to reunite with field/source/god?

Re-aligning with source will not get you fed, and not everyone has the luxury of being able to grow their own food. Like it or not, labor and cost go hand in hand with the effort it takes to grow said product. The ONLY way I see for a monetary free future is a state owning all of the farm land in a given country but machines are the ones growing the food.

[Horn]

dont worry life is full of inner conflicts within to start with... and mastering them is the purpose of life.

I am not advocating for a conflict free life (what is impossible) but a system that is enhancing life as opposed to a death cult rulership. This death cult is so ancient, and so is the generational trauma, that imaging a life without ((them)) is a challenging for many.

You are really a Bitcoin fan, whether u know it or not. Ofcourse then you will have to deal with Dogecoins too...

We all scream for mamas breasts from the get go, our struggle for breath in between the takes is what gives us strength to live.

Some always want mama to be there for them, so they created the Federal Reserve System.

[crimethink]

Which are the exact same reasons Socialism and Communism fail. Human nature is an extremely difficult variable when considering an economic system.

Human nature leads to murder, rape, and robbery. Hence, we have laws (and in healthy societies - punishments) that deter them.

Jewish Capitalism is just another form of robbery. And Jewish Marxism is a form of all three of the above.

That's why we have Aryan alternatives: National Socialism, and Social Credit.

[crimethink]

I think it's entirely possible to legitimately earn millions of dollars. Think about the size of the economy we live and work in, with hundreds of millions of participants. If someone invents something, offers it for sale, people like it and want to buy it, so he produces and distributes them, and he sells a million of them, how is that not earned?

Someone else is always doing the actual labor to create that wealth - the millions of dollars. Right now, it's mostly peons in China.

You do not "earn" millions of dollars sitting at a desk reading the Wall Street Journal.

The greatest opponents of economic justice are never the little folks (including the middle class): it's always the ones who have amassed great wealth created by other people. These predators use both Jewish Capitalism and Jewish Marxism to attack economic justice via the dialectic.

[crimethink]

I dont think a money free society is needed, only an usury free one.

There should be no middleman private speculator between users of fiat loans, this would allow fiat itslef to remain at its true value in so much that you are not able to counterfit it.

determination of quantity received in the ability to return.

just a fraction above a zerosum game, fiat should flow like a water commodity it is.

If United States Notes replaced debt-laden "Federal" Reserve Notes, and only that be done, the US economy would become the greatest in the world once again. Nothing else would need be done. Not that there isn't much more to be done...but that alone would bring the US economy up like a helium-filled beach ball underwater.

And that is why Hitler "had to be destroyed." He enabled freedom of trade and even used fiat currency, yet Germany soared.

[Horn]

what might be interesting is if each person had their very own Bitcoin ledger such that you offered your satoshi to your employer for your time in advance, then based on the value of his satoshi given in return you were able to afford your weezer disks...

Maybe something to familiar to a company store?

[crimethink]

There will soon be no jobs? Please tell me when so I can plan accordingly.


Her statement is hyperbole, but not untrue. As automation becomes the norm, "no jobs" will be reality for most. I believe you are an architect. Are you prepared for when advanced computing (artificial intelligence) replaces you? It's coming. Your "plan" will be to die, if the rulers of this world - advancing Jewish Capitalism and Jewish Marxism - have their way. You will be "obsolete," and "unnecessary," like nearly all of us. 500,000,000 per the Georgia Guidestones.

Either all of us get to benefit from the fruits of advanced technology, or, the current "I 'earned' it" model, where a tiny few control 90% of the wealth, continues, and we simply starve to death.

It's not a matter of "Capitalism" vs. "Communism," but Jewish economic dialectic vs. Aryan economic justice for everyone.



I disagree that one cannot make m/billions without causing slavery. Increased productivity makes us all richer. I hope you're not falling for the fallacy of thought that states that in order for one person to become rich, others must necessarily become poor.

Let's pick on metrosexual Apple. If Apple paid the actual manufacturers of their iPhones and iPads decent wages, and, treated them well, Apple would not have literally billions amassed in cash holdings.

This planet is a finite resource. One cannot become rich without amassing a greater share of the finite pie. Perhaps if automation advances to the point where we can mine asteroids and the Moon, and, "intellectual property" is defeated once and for all, then all can become "rich" without someone else standing underneath the wealthy to support them.

"Intellectual property" is the biggest fraud apart from usury. A real, natural man should have a very limited protection for his real invention, not this effectively unlimited restraint on use without endlessly paying. As things stand, as automation increases, the owners of the "intellectual property" will become filthy rich beyond imagination, without actual additional work, while billions of us struggle for a few crumbs to "access" that "intellectual property" to survive.

"I'll mow your lawn for a meal." "Not needed, I have an automatic lawnmower."

"I'll sell myself for a meal." "Sorry, I have an android fembot."

See where it's going?

[singular_me]

so true... the connection between copyrights and billionaires is blatant.

Additionally, wealth is a distortion because knowledge continually evolves and this means that even if one is honest, one also will be proven wrong eventually, meaning that one has made money with a fallacy/lies/deception/error. Best of luck resolving this!

The wealth parameter has always been twisted.

Today there are many people who make a living, some of which get richer, from fallacies/frauds/obsolescence and do not even realize it. ROFLOL

that is why jesus sez that the poor is closer to kingdom of God, or that the kingdom belongs to them. Doesnt mean that one needs to be poor but that the origins of wealth is very often evil






"Intellectual property" is the biggest fraud apart from usury. A real, natural man should have a very limited protection for his real invention, not this effectively unlimited restraint on use without endlessly paying. As things stand, as automation increases, the owners of the "intellectual property" will become filthy rich beyond imagination, without actual additional work, while billions of us struggle for a few crumbs to "access" that "intellectual property" to survive.

"I'll mow your lawn for a meal." "Not needed, I have an automatic lawnmower."

"I'll sell myself for a meal." "Sorry, I have an android fembot."

See where it's going?

[Horn]

copyright has only been around about as long as passports, both should be easily removed without consequence.

[singular_me]

without consequence remains to be seen. Just ask the entertainment and biotech industries to start with.

if copyrights laws were removed, we 'd see another increase in secret circles to protect wealth in the hands of the few, after all it has been this way for centuries long. without slavery no elite can make it. Middle class exists to give an illusion of security. History is dotted with middle classes being wiped out cyclically, and give an opportunity for the elite to go shopping. Same with wars and colonization.

people like to speak about the greed factor but by just following the money, one empowers the agenda of the top. They know that materialism doesnt buy security.


copyright has only been around about as long as passports, both should be easily removed without consequence.

[Ares]

you are trying to ridicule my words but that's okay... we all know that education must be reformed to start with. In fact problems are so huge and so interwoven that not many people have to courage to face it all at once. But I do.

I am not, I'm pointing out the obvious that you still have not answered my question. How do you feed a population without a monetary system?


when people grow up being told that they are born in sin and to wait for the return of a savior, the condition of slavery is in place already.

That we were, but I never believed in that. If we are a spark of the creator why would he allow us to come here to be born into sin? The rest of the explanation still doesn't touch upon an answer of feeding a population without a monetary system.


No belief system will offer any long term answer as long as immutable laws (physics) are not taught in elementary schools. Knowing them is knowing the force and intent of God.

I've said for a long time of getting the state out of teaching the population. However, it still goes without saying, you have not answered the question in the least. You can say I don't know, as that is respectable. I do not know how to feed a population without a monetary system to encourage those with the land, the resources and the means to provide for others as well as themselves. However getting into physics, metaphysics which most of the population doesn't even care about isn't going to achieve any of anyones goals here.

Rambling on about the wrongs of this world brings us no closer to a cure.

[madfranks]

Her statement is hyperbole, but not untrue. As automation becomes the norm, "no jobs" will be reality for most. I believe you are an architect. Are you prepared for when advanced computing (artificial intelligence) replaces you? It's coming. Your "plan" will be to die, if the rulers of this world - advancing Jewish Capitalism and Jewish Marxism - have their way. You will be "obsolete," and "unnecessary," like nearly all of us. 500,000,000 per the Georgia Guidestones.

If AI takes over the economy, the obsolescence of the my industry will probably be one of the more minor things I have to worry about.


Either all of us get to benefit from the fruits of advanced technology, or, the current "I 'earned' it" model, where a tiny few control 90% of the wealth, continues, and we simply starve to death.

It's not a matter of "Capitalism" vs. "Communism," but Jewish economic dialectic vs. Aryan economic justice for everyone.

The current "I earned it" model as you call it where a few control 90% of the wealth is due in large part to fiat money and central banking, yes Jewish institutions that rig the economy in favor of those who control it. I believe that in an honest and free economy there would still be rich people, but they wouldn't be able to manipulate the monetary system to their advantage.



Let's pick on metrosexual Apple. If Apple paid the actual manufacturers of their iPhones and iPads decent wages, and, treated them well, Apple would not have literally billions amassed in cash holdings.

This planet is a finite resource. One cannot become rich without amassing a greater share of the finite pie. Perhaps if automation advances to the point where we can mine asteroids and the Moon, and, "intellectual property" is defeated once and for all, then all can become "rich" without someone else standing underneath the wealthy to support them.

Of course the planet is a finite resource, but these finite resources can be put to productive use which makes us all wealthier, or for non-productive/less productive uses. Think of all the automobiles in the world, what if all the steel, rubber, glass, etc were just left in their original natural states instead of being fashioned into transportation tools? It's still a closed system with finite resources, but one of these scenarios puts the resources to work as God commanded man in Genesis; making our lives better; and the other leaves the resources in the ground but mankind in a state of poverty. I see no conflict in those innovators who invent products that make our lives better making money and getting rich. Nor do I see conflict when those who properly manage the resources put under their control increase productivity and make a profit. King Solomon was the wisest king of ancient Israel and under his management Israel became very wealthy.


"Intellectual property" is the biggest fraud apart from usury. A real, natural man should have a very limited protection for his real invention, not this effectively unlimited restraint on use without endlessly paying. As things stand, as automation increases, the owners of the "intellectual property" will become filthy rich beyond imagination, without actual additional work, while billions of us struggle for a few crumbs to "access" that "intellectual property" to survive.

I agree with you here.


"I'll mow your lawn for a meal." "Not needed, I have an automatic lawnmower."

"I'll sell myself for a meal." "Sorry, I have an android fembot."

See where it's going?

"I'll light your street candles at night and extinguish them in the morning for a meal." "Not needed, I have electric lights now."

"I'll feed and water your horse for a meal." "Not needed, I have an automobile now."

Advancement has always rendered certain industries obsolete, but new opportunities will always be created. The human mind is limitless in it's ability to create new things.

[singular_me]

working out of passion is realistic. People may enjoy a few months doing nothing but after a while they will want to be useful and work just for the sake of it but doing what they LOVE doing.

today 85% of people hate what they do for a living, chasing money and plunder the system at their own level whenever possible. the system is false to start with. and no politicians can fix this. Man is not an animal and cannot chase/hunt money... unless he wants to destroy his environment and species. Education cannot be monetized either as it is the core premise of monopolies.

Follow the money, the once hailed so-called invention of plastic caused 275 MILLION METRIC TONS to be dumped into the oceans in 2015!!! let alone our staggering E-waste dumped onto china, india, ghana, same about food waste amounting to $160BN today for america alone... following the money is killing mankind/nature.

Resource based economies are the way to go. 10 years ago as I didnt have the whole picture, I thought it was socialism but today not anymore **IF** implemented in a DEcentralized fashion. Of course the UN/WARS will have to go if Humanity is serious about pursuing such a path.


http://files.meetup.com/1413011/A-World-Without-Money.pdf

there a plenty of vids on youtube



I am not, I'm pointing out the obvious that you still have not answered my question. How do you feed a population without a monetary system?

[Ares]

working out of passion is realistic. People may enjoy a few months doing nothing but after a while they will want to be useful and work just for the sake of it but doing what they LOVE doing.

today 85% of people hate what they do for a living, chasing money and plunder the system at their own level whenever possible. the system is false to start with. and no politicians can fix this. Man is not an animal and cannot chase/hunt money... unless he wants to destroy his environment and species. Education cannot be monetized either as it is the core premise of monopolies.

Follow the money, the once hailed so-called invention of plastic is causing today 275 MILLION METRIC TONS to be dumped into the oceans in 2015!!! let alone our staggering E-waste dumped in china, india, ghana, same about food waste amounting to $160BN today for america alone... following the money is killing mankind/nature.

Resource based economies are the way to go. 10 years ago as I didnt have the whole picture, I thought it was socialism but today not anymore **IF** implemented in a DEcentralized fashion. Of course the UN/WARS will have to go if Humanity is serious about pursuing such a path.


http://files.meetup.com/1413011/A-World-Without-Money.pdf

there a plenty of vids on youtube

I did not ask for a video on YouTube I asked YOU specifically how do you feed a population without a monetary system. Yet I can't seem to get a straight answer from you. Any of the videos I have watched to discuss that type of topic are THEORETICAL. Just like Marxism is theoretical, in a perfect world with perfect conditions you can achieve anything. But in the real world where everyone has different wants, desires, needs, ambitions, you can't really achieve any of those lofty goals.

[singular_me]

If AI takes over the economy, the obsolescence of the my industry will probably be one of the more minor things I have to worry about. .

only firms sponsored by the gov will make it and if working along with evil


Millions Of American Jobs Will Be Wiped Out In The Next Five Years
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/rise-of-the-machines-tens-of-millions-of-american-jobs-will-be-wiped-out-in-the-next-five-years_12072016#

[Joshua01]

only firms sponsored by the gov will make it and if working along with evil


Millions Of American Jobs Will Be Wiped Out In The Next Five Years
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/rise-of-the-machines-tens-of-millions-of-american-jobs-will-be-wiped-out-in-the-next-five-years_12072016#


I'll be retired and a spectator by then. Gosh, I'm a lucky guy!!

[singular_me]

sorry Ares, I feel that your mind cannot wrap itself around that whatever lies in the future several major shocks to the system will occur.... a resource based economy offers a next step from there.

either a majority of people grasp the core of problem and help others muddle through a transition without money.... or it will be mad max hard currencies vs orwellian cashless society.

Money-free is not cashless.

I am answering your question, really




I did not ask for a video on YouTube I asked YOU specifically how do you feed a population without a monetary system. Yet I can't seem to get a straight answer from you. Any of the videos I have watched to discuss that type of topic are THEORETICAL. Just like Marxism is theoretical, in a perfect world with perfect conditions you can achieve anything. But in the real world where everyone has different wants, desires, needs, ambitions, you can't really achieve any of those lofty goals.

[madfranks]

working out of passion is realistic. People may enjoy a few months doing nothing but after a while they will want to be useful and work just for the sake of it but doing what they LOVE doing.

Are you really saying that people will work just for the sake of it? What about real dangerous work, where if you make a mistake, you die? Heavy construction laborers, roofers, high voltage electricians, etc. People would do this work "just for the sake of it"?

What about work that involves real responsibility for others, where if you make a mistake, someone else dies? Work like surgeons, engineers, fire fighters, etc. You think they'd take on such liability for fun because they "love" it? This is truly an absurd idea.

[singular_me]

the problem is that materialism is but a total ILLUSION

wanna money... that is what one gets: Millions Of American Jobs Will Be Wiped Out In The Next Five Years

so please give it all a rest... the Universe will **NEVER** change. Immutable Law.

By pursuing materialism, the path of self-destruction is certain

How do we feed people under such circumstances, right !! ???

It was a cake walk to predict Judgement Day 2000 years ago... the elite KNOW the name of the game: ILLUSION and now can we allow then to control chaos til the end???

NOPE humans have not that many different wants and needs ONCE they get it, that value is subjective and corrupts any monetary theory so easily.

[singular_me]

madfranks, machines have a huge upside if used for a greater good

in 10 years from now, surgeons will be jobless too. Robots are becoming trendy in the field.

and yes, there are good samaritans, people who are willing to take risks. They will never completely disappear. the real ones are not $$ driven



Are you really saying that people will work just for the sake of it? What about real dangerous work, where if you make a mistake, you die? Heavy construction laborers, roofers, high voltage electricians, etc. People would do this work "just for the sake of it"?

What about work that involves real responsibility for others, where if you make a mistake, someone else dies? Work like surgeons, engineers, fire fighters, etc. You think they'd take on such liability for fun because they "love" it? This is truly an absurd idea.

[Horn]

I would take the work of operating on madfranks, even with the risk he may die.

For free. :)

Gold or infamy will need to be produced if its my life that is put at risk though.

[singular_me]

game is lost folks

competition drives out competition = kills competition = working out of passion is all what is left. Darwin hoax exposed.

[Ares]

sorry Ares, I feel that your mind cannot wrap itself around that whatever lies in the future several major shocks to the system will occur.... a resource based economy offers a next step from there.

either a majority of people grasp the core of problem and help others muddle through a transition without money.... or it will be mad max hard currencies vs orwellian cashless society.

Money-free is not cashless.

I am answering your question, really

No you're not and I think you're so deluded that you're eating your own bullshit.

You can't explain to me how anyone is going to work for the betterment of society because they want to, putting aside their own personal ambitions.

This is why every single hippie commune ended in complete FAILURE.

[madfranks]

and yes, there are good samaritans, people who are willing to take risks. They will never completely disappear. the real ones are not $$ drivenMaybe not fully, but yes they are money driven. The whole reason people work hard to get into high risk/highly specialized work is because it pays better. I carry personal professional liability insurance because my professional services carry risk. The draftsman working on the computer doesn't carry this insurance because his work is under the responsible charge of real professionals. My work and the decisions I make directly affect the health, safety, and welfare of the public, and you're right I get paid more because of it. Take that away, and even though I consider myself a good Samaritan and moral person, I wouldn't voluntarily take that risk. It wouldn't make sense.

[Horn]

game is lost folks

competition drives out competition = kills competition = working out of passion is all what is left. Darwin hoax exposed.

the Mo in money represents passion, singular

the collective is what has destroyed Individual or singular's drive/hunger pain passion and her MOney.

Mo money, please! :)

[Horn]

ps. do not bring robots into a conversation with franks or ares.

these are the 2 guys who want to be left remaining on the planet their programmers... :)